@@tcntad87 ; Yeah ... Just like in the title of this video for instance, while WiFi 6E may be "crazy fast." Unfortunately it also has a "crazy short range" too. ... So unless you remain in the same room close to the AP. Or place the APs close together if using the 6 GHz band for wireless backhaul between them. Then the performance of WiFi 6E is going to be pretty much a wipeout then sorry to say ...
6E is very impressive but 1. It’s barely supported so even if you get it, you almost certainly won’t be able to take full advantage of it currently, and 2. You don’t need 6E to get the speeds you show in the video. I have just 6 on a fiber plan (1G up and down) and I consistently get over 900MB on my WiFi tests. Oh and 3. Anything 6E is gonna be super expensive right now, so in general I really wouldn’t recommend it until the prices start coming down and it is available in more devices.
Deco xe75 is way cheaper than any tri band wifi 6 mesh so I disagree with the 3rd point. Even if you dont have any compatible device...the deco can itself use that 6ghz band for backhaul.
@@kartiksharma-ie8by you’re talking about tri-band mesh systems which is more than what most people need. Also $300 is not what I would call cheap when you can get a great WiFi 6 AX1800 from TP-link for under $100. I just looked it up and right now it’s available for 79.99 on Amazon. If you do need tri-band mesh then yes it is a more compelling proposition, but there are still much cheaper options than the one you mentioned that right now for most people will give them very good WiFi. The thing is by the time wifi6E is more widely adopted and available in more devices, the prices will come down considerably from where they are now.
@@mutedmutiny9542 ax1800 is barely a wifi 6 router with most functionality cut out off it. It took more than 10 years for introduction of new band after 5ghz. So 6e having the 6ghz band is not talked about enough. Even wifi 7,8 and 9 will be backwards compatible with it at the least. While wifi 6 won't be able to take ots advantage. 6e is futureproof for years to come. Wifi 6 missing 6ghz band is such a big deal.
@@mutedmutiny9542 ax1800 doesnt fully utilise the wifi 6 capabilities in both 5ghz or 2.4ghz. you can check out the reviews of people who used it in real life. The speed increase is not there when compared to even a decent wifi 5 router. AX1800 is just being sold for the hype of wifi 6 rather than its capabilities. Its wifi 6 in the name only.
Thank you! Best explanation I've seen on 6E vs. older standards. You've really got to watch your Internet provider's supplied equipment the new higher Internet speed options. On a recent fiber optic 2GB service install, they put in home equipment that wasn't really up to dealing with the faster speeds. While I never expect the speeds the providers are touting, you still have to insist on the appropriate equipment installed in your home (if you rely on the internet provider for equipment).
Yes got E7 wi fi router being out last year in July my friend got for full fibre on EE & bt same network never had when got young men like do his friends internet that like doing bt job same way where he get money master socket internet see company bt & virgin no you got the likes like O2 and virgin that doing Internet broadband now I think all the mobile networks are doing it now, but who who is the best in the world who’s got the fastest broadband?
Awesome explanation Alex! Thanks to you my home runs admirably! Your advice and tips have been so useful over the years I’ve been following you! Thank you! Keep up the great work!
i love it all but i’m currently getting 1.5gbps with a simple three 5G hub for 21 a month :) love it might be that fast because the mast is at the end of the road but there we are !!!
Forget fast. If you want fast and stable speeds, you want a cable. You get wifi for ease of use and aesthetics. That said, right now I can spot 17 wifi networks, sometimes only 16, sometimes 20+, all 2.4Ghz, only 1×5Ghz. This leaves not a lot of room for my laptops, phones, AIO, disconnects and interference. If I can switch to 6Ghz that makes for a lot better use for me.
you can use the combo name I do it does both have band steering on so 5 ghz devices connect to that 2.4 devices connect to that band steering better than having 2 Sid's less overhead in my book plus easier to connect smart home devices no more needing to connect your phone to 2.4 devices
Got a ubiquiti UDM pro with U6 Pro,U6LR, &U6 lite around the house getting max of 770 in each room wirelessly which is fantastic nearly maxes out the wifi given by BT would be less than half with there own gear .
I pay for gig 1 virgin media on hub 4 and a Wi-Fi 6 access point 2.4 and 5ghz in the garage games room. at the moment only Wi-Fi 5 devices because I only have Wi-Fi 5 devices that work on that I get 600 mbps max and 1050 on Ethernet. I also use the 2.4 GHz mesh pods Virgin gave me maybe getting 6e mesh one day those pods are really good 200mbps max but maybe only temporarily until I get a mesh
Well if you got a person like him that can put his own Wi-Fi in he’s saving his self money from these companies think about it. He doesn’t have any problem at all. He knows what he’s doing and he’s learn a lot over the years with broadband and fibre
Don’t forget about DFS in the 5GHz range. If you’re near a weather radar like an airport really cuts down on usable channels. Also Wifi 7 is nearly here, feels like 6E will be fleeting 🤷♂️
That is true but a new 6e WiFi router can be much cheaper. If you are going high bandwidth hardwire you need a router with 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps Ethernet ports and then possibly a switch with 2.5GBps or 10Gbps ports. 2.5Gbps switch is expensive and a 10Gbps switch is even more. If cost is no issue for you than go hardwired but WiFi can make it much cheaper to get high bandwidth.
@@maximusg88 they can if you have enough access points. For a house under 2500sf a main router and 1-2 satellite access points and you can keep the speeds on WiFi fast throughout the house.
@@maximusg88 it depends on the type of wireless card your device has, it’s MIMO support and what MIMO your router supports. Most laptops and smartphones have a 2x2 MIMO config. A 2×2 MIMO device can transmit up to 867 Mbit/s, while a 4×4 MIMO device can reach up to 1.7 Gbit/s.
Honestly WiFi 6E isn't worth it at all over WiFi 6. It looks like WiFi 7 is coming pretty soon and so it makes little sense to pay that much for 6E that will be soon outdated by much better, newer standard. WiFi 7 is gonna be much better as it also incorporates sub 1ghz frequency for IoT devices. Its also gonna be simply lot faster than 6E. I think its even able to aggregate 2 frequencies at once, so your device that supports WiFi 7 could use 5Ghz and 6GHz channels at same time for better speeds for instance. The big jump is gonna be from 6E to 7, not from 6 to 6E. 6E is just pointless stopgap on my opinion, it doesn't even make full use of 6GHz the way 7 will do. Just another pointless marketing gimmick. Also, WiFi 7 supports 4096 QAM vs just 1024 QAM on WiFi 6 or 6E.
Right now wifi 6e routers are pretty expensive as well And you need a device that supports wifi 6e connection So most people are good for 5ghz bandwidth for few more years Unless you have a specific need for wifi 6e Anyways, really informative video Thank You so much
I was looking to upgrade my network at home to use ubiquity instead of the standard Virgin router but saying this will the virgin router still be processing all the packets that get sent through and not make the most of the ubiquity routers or is there no downside to running the router in hub mode ?
But you didn't address latency, pushing a game on an XBox or PS5 to laptop/tablet, so sooo much information without dealing with my needs. It's ok... but seriously in 2023, showing a phone getting sub-500 Mbps isn't awesome. Phones on narrow band 5G get crazy multi-Gig connections _with line of sight, magical connections_ Looking to fully utilize my low-cost 550 Gbps download on the Home Network, and Google Wifi maxes out at 350Mbps. So I'm wondering is the $200 upgrade worth it? You didn't answer that question, and it's OK, as that's all about me Still I wonder would everything work better with a newer Router?
Can a pc wifi dongle impact the connection of other devices within the same room upstairs if so would it be positively or negatively. Not glued up on this stuff but does it make the signal stronger for other devices as it's location is easily picked up.
If you have the capability of wired internet for all of your wired devices TVs computers Xboxes no matter how good Wi-Fi becomes I've even heard talk of Wi-Fi 7 coming out in a few years wired internet will always be more stable I recently made all of my devices that could be wired connected to my router with cat6a cable and it made Wireless just a complete joke yes I have Wi-Fi 6 being able to stream Netflix Hulu Amazon Prime literally with no latency and no loading screen even it is almost just as good as watching a DVD it just makes wireless Internet seem like a big joke
Can you tell me the best Wi-Fi settings for iPhone and best wifi 6e 6ghz or Wi-Fi 6 access’s point I have a Wi-Fi 6 exstnder as a access point atm I’m just wondering if there is a 6e access point
Wi-Fi extenders are garbage. You should look into getting mesh routers instead so your wi-fi signal blankets your home. There are dual band and tri band options.
FYI, there are people like me who need/want/enjoy the information you provide. Thank you... You're the best!
Sorry but he's just a messenger only and he isnt always right
@@tcntad87 ;
Yeah ...
Just like in the title of this video for instance, while WiFi 6E may be "crazy fast." Unfortunately it also has a "crazy short range" too. ...
So unless you remain in the same room close to the AP. Or place the APs close together if using the 6 GHz band for wireless backhaul between them.
Then the performance of WiFi 6E is going to be pretty much a wipeout then sorry to say ...
3:24 WiFi 6 was released in late 2009?
i think he meant 2019
Also at about the 5:14 mark he actually should have said the feature was "Multi-user MIMO" (or "MU-MIMO").
Not simply "MIMO" as he stated. ...
@@sebastiansp_2007 that sounds more likely
@@antonioterrell354 yeah
@@ewicky yeah it does i was also confused why he said 2009 then i realised i think he meant 2019
6E is very impressive but 1. It’s barely supported so even if you get it, you almost certainly won’t be able to take full advantage of it currently, and 2. You don’t need 6E to get the speeds you show in the video. I have just 6 on a fiber plan (1G up and down) and I consistently get over 900MB on my WiFi tests. Oh and 3. Anything 6E is gonna be super expensive right now, so in general I really wouldn’t recommend it until the prices start coming down and it is available in more devices.
Deco xe75 is way cheaper than any tri band wifi 6 mesh so I disagree with the 3rd point. Even if you dont have any compatible device...the deco can itself use that 6ghz band for backhaul.
@@kartiksharma-ie8by you’re talking about tri-band mesh systems which is more than what most people need. Also $300 is not what I would call cheap when you can get a great WiFi 6 AX1800 from TP-link for under $100. I just looked it up and right now it’s available for 79.99 on Amazon. If you do need tri-band mesh then yes it is a more compelling proposition, but there are still much cheaper options than the one you mentioned that right now for most people will give them very good WiFi. The thing is by the time wifi6E is more widely adopted and available in more devices, the prices will come down considerably from where they are now.
@@mutedmutiny9542 ax1800 is barely a wifi 6 router with most functionality cut out off it.
It took more than 10 years for introduction of new band after 5ghz. So 6e having the 6ghz band is not talked about enough. Even wifi 7,8 and 9 will be backwards compatible with it at the least. While wifi 6 won't be able to take ots advantage. 6e is futureproof for years to come. Wifi 6 missing 6ghz band is such a big deal.
@@kartiksharma-ie8by what functionality does it not have that the average person needs?
@@mutedmutiny9542 ax1800 doesnt fully utilise the wifi 6 capabilities in both 5ghz or 2.4ghz. you can check out the reviews of people who used it in real life.
The speed increase is not there when compared to even a decent wifi 5 router.
AX1800 is just being sold for the hype of wifi 6 rather than its capabilities. Its wifi 6 in the name only.
Thank you! Best explanation I've seen on 6E vs. older standards. You've really got to watch your Internet provider's supplied equipment the new higher Internet speed options. On a recent fiber optic 2GB service install, they put in home equipment that wasn't really up to dealing with the faster speeds. While I never expect the speeds the providers are touting, you still have to insist on the appropriate equipment installed in your home (if you rely on the internet provider for equipment).
Yes got E7 wi fi router being out last year in July my friend got for full fibre on EE & bt same network never had when got young men like do his friends internet that like doing bt job same way where he get money master socket internet see company bt & virgin no you got the likes like O2 and virgin that doing Internet broadband now I think all the mobile networks are doing it now, but who who is the best in the world who’s got the fastest broadband?
Good to see you upload another video. Where are the vlogs?
Awesome explanation Alex! Thanks to you my home runs admirably! Your advice and tips have been so useful over the years I’ve been following you! Thank you! Keep up the great work!
i love it all but i’m currently getting 1.5gbps with a simple three 5G hub for 21 a month :) love it might be that fast because the mast is at the end of the road but there we are !!!
watch old 80s/90s presentations by Top Gears Quentin Wilson, this kid is exactly the same with his 90s upswing
Forget fast. If you want fast and stable speeds, you want a cable. You get wifi for ease of use and aesthetics.
That said, right now I can spot 17 wifi networks, sometimes only 16, sometimes 20+, all 2.4Ghz, only 1×5Ghz. This leaves not a lot of room for my laptops, phones, AIO, disconnects and interference. If I can switch to 6Ghz that makes for a lot better use for me.
you can use the combo name I do it does both have band steering on so 5 ghz devices connect to that 2.4 devices connect to that band steering better than having 2 Sid's less overhead in my book plus easier to connect smart home devices no more needing to connect your phone to 2.4 devices
Still loving your videos Alex. Very well put together and explained.
WIFI AC and AX makes a huge difference for me in speed. At AX I can get full of my fibre 1Gbit connection in both directions which I cant get on AC
Got a ubiquiti UDM pro with U6 Pro,U6LR, &U6 lite around the house getting max of 770 in each room wirelessly which is fantastic nearly maxes out the wifi given by BT would be less than half with there own gear .
Hey Alex and Jed great video! Keep up the good work 👍🏼
1st time watch and such a clear video (packed too lol) I should optimise my wifi really, it will be good prep for 6E
Great video Alex. I will be splitting my network up now!!
I recommended this channel to my grandparents and they love it.
I pay for gig 1 virgin media on hub 4 and a Wi-Fi 6 access point 2.4 and 5ghz in the garage games room. at the moment only Wi-Fi 5 devices because I only have Wi-Fi 5 devices that work on that I get 600 mbps max and 1050 on Ethernet.
I also use the 2.4 GHz mesh pods Virgin gave me maybe getting 6e mesh one day those pods are really good 200mbps max but maybe only temporarily until I get a mesh
Well if you got a person like him that can put his own Wi-Fi in he’s saving his self money from these companies think about it. He doesn’t have any problem at all. He knows what he’s doing and he’s learn a lot over the years with broadband and fibre
wanting to get the fire tv cube that has Wi-Fi 6e but wouldn’t I need the fastest broadband there is for this to work?
Plus bt full fibre in most house and flat
Can I use wi-Fi 6e extender on wi-Fi 5 router to extend range
Wish there were good options for wifi6e. Looks like we have to wait until next year for some good options that aren't overpriced or mesh
thanks for the info
Great to seeing you back here
Yes great
quite insightful. Thanks
Don’t forget about DFS in the 5GHz range. If you’re near a weather radar like an airport really cuts down on usable channels. Also Wifi 7 is nearly here, feels like 6E will be fleeting 🤷♂️
wifi 802.11n also may use a 40mhz band. but the date within this channel is to crowded in such a small frequency
Will OFDMA works if your router was set as Access point instead of router?
So my phone is slow because somebody else's phone is slowing down my signal. Mumimo is disabled currently
loves his setup
Keep up the good work Alex
Wifi will never outperform hard wiring... Apart from that - good beginner guide video
That is true but a new 6e WiFi router can be much cheaper. If you are going high bandwidth hardwire you need a router with 2.5Gbps or 10Gbps Ethernet ports and then possibly a switch with 2.5GBps or 10Gbps ports. 2.5Gbps switch is expensive and a 10Gbps switch is even more. If cost is no issue for you than go hardwired but WiFi can make it much cheaper to get high bandwidth.
@@christrubl5014 can the WiFi speeds really reliably stay above 1gig at a distance though? I find that hard to believe 🤔
@@maximusg88 they can if you have enough access points. For a house under 2500sf a main router and 1-2 satellite access points and you can keep the speeds on WiFi fast throughout the house.
@@christrubl5014 but over 1 gig? Most Speedtests I've seen reached maybe 700mbit
@@maximusg88 it depends on the type of wireless card your device has, it’s MIMO support and what MIMO your router supports. Most laptops and smartphones have a 2x2 MIMO config. A 2×2 MIMO device can transmit up to 867 Mbit/s, while a 4×4 MIMO device can reach up to 1.7 Gbit/s.
Omg i used to watch Mars bar like 5 years ago
I remember watching him put Alexa in his car and shit lmao I miss this guy
Honestly WiFi 6E isn't worth it at all over WiFi 6. It looks like WiFi 7 is coming pretty soon and so it makes little sense to pay that much for 6E that will be soon outdated by much better, newer standard. WiFi 7 is gonna be much better as it also incorporates sub 1ghz frequency for IoT devices. Its also gonna be simply lot faster than 6E. I think its even able to aggregate 2 frequencies at once, so your device that supports WiFi 7 could use 5Ghz and 6GHz channels at same time for better speeds for instance. The big jump is gonna be from 6E to 7, not from 6 to 6E. 6E is just pointless stopgap on my opinion, it doesn't even make full use of 6GHz the way 7 will do. Just another pointless marketing gimmick. Also, WiFi 7 supports 4096 QAM vs just 1024 QAM on WiFi 6 or 6E.
Right now wifi 6e routers are pretty expensive as well
And you need a device that supports wifi 6e connection
So most people are good for 5ghz bandwidth for few more years
Unless you have a specific need for wifi 6e
Anyways, really informative video
Thank You so much
Tp link deco xe75 is a tri band wifi 6e mesh which os way cheaper than any other tri band wifi 6 mesh.
Well done mate! This is EXCELLENT info🙏👍
If a new Betelgeuse movie comes out you should play Betelgeuse!!!!
Netgear AXE11000 WiFi Router (RAXE500) 1,7Gbps👍👍👍👍
I was looking to upgrade my network at home to use ubiquity instead of the standard Virgin router but saying this will the virgin router still be processing all the packets that get sent through and not make the most of the ubiquity routers or is there no downside to running the router in hub mode ?
Alex, what is that software you're using to configure your WiFi channels ?
Thats the built in controller for his Unifi Dream Machine pro
Ι have wifi n, but my modem router have greenfield mode and fragment threshold and I don't bother to have the new wifi 6
3:23 2009???
😂😂😂
Wi-Fi 6 launched in 2019.
He is always making mistakes in every video
@@ashtongtv863 it’s been possible since 2009 but hasant been launched to consumers Intill 2019
@@rad8287 Lol, no it hasn't...
@@rad8287 Stop lying
Can you recommend a decent WiFi 6e Mesh product??
"rootahh" 😂
Wifi 7 next year.
2024
Is it bad to put a Unifi AP on the wall? I read several posts about it.
hey Alex plz share about best roaming wifi system in 6e
Entertaining and interesting as always!
WiFi6 was introduced in 2009, really???? Is there a chance people may come away a bit confused over the timeline?
I think he meant 2019.
03:24 2009 🧐
i thought too
THIS^^^^^
Wi-Fi 6 launched in 2019.
2009?
THIS^^^^^^ 😂😂😂
But you didn't address latency, pushing a game on an XBox or PS5 to laptop/tablet, so sooo much information without dealing with my needs.
It's ok... but seriously in 2023, showing a phone getting sub-500 Mbps isn't awesome. Phones on narrow band 5G get crazy multi-Gig connections _with line of sight, magical connections_
Looking to fully utilize my low-cost 550 Gbps download on the Home Network, and Google Wifi maxes out at 350Mbps. So I'm wondering is the $200 upgrade worth it?
You didn't answer that question, and it's OK, as that's all about me Still I wonder would everything work better with a newer Router?
What is real difference between 6 and 6E ? shorter distance faster perfomance?
wifi 6 devices support 2.4ghz and 5ghz and wifi 6e devices support 2.4ghz, 5ghz and 6ghz
if its not 160mhz then it will be useless
Whats that user interface from @8:56
think new samsung phone in feb 2023 will have wifi 7 wtf will that do
Can a pc wifi dongle impact the connection of other devices within the same room upstairs if so would it be positively or negatively. Not glued up on this stuff but does it make the signal stronger for other devices as it's location is easily picked up.
the air is a shared medium so anything can impact anything
If you have the capability of wired internet for all of your wired devices TVs computers Xboxes no matter how good Wi-Fi becomes I've even heard talk of Wi-Fi 7 coming out in a few years wired internet will always be more stable I recently made all of my devices that could be wired connected to my router with cat6a cable and it made Wireless just a complete joke yes I have Wi-Fi 6 being able to stream Netflix Hulu Amazon Prime literally with no latency and no loading screen even it is almost just as good as watching a DVD it just makes wireless Internet seem like a big joke
good for ya
Is our smart phone 4G can use this wifi 6?
yes if your phone's specs say wifi 6 or 802.11ax
@@gamecubeplayer My bitterness.... sorry about what I erased. There's no simple fixing, yet walking back and reconsidering is a start.
@@justonlyjohn6596 what did you erase? i don't understand
Because with 4G not great plus some 5G say it great not signal phone get poor signal
2009 you mean 19
THIS^^ 😂😂😂
but how do you make chicken tikka
I get 2.5 down :)
Whichever way i found you; i love you Alex
So if I have a WiFi 6 mesh with ethernet backhaul is it as fast as WiFi 6E mesh system using wireless backhaul?
Yes
I have using wifi 6e its very fast
link to cheapest 6e compatible routers please?
Tp link xe75 $169 for 1 router
I have this speeds on Wi-Fi 5
Can you tell me the best Wi-Fi settings for iPhone and best wifi 6e 6ghz or Wi-Fi 6 access’s point I have a Wi-Fi 6 exstnder as a access point atm I’m just wondering if there is a 6e access point
Wi-Fi extenders are garbage.
You should look into getting mesh routers instead so your wi-fi signal blankets your home.
There are dual band and tri band options.
@@PSYCHOV3N0M that’s now what I mean I set it up as a access point hardwired
I am early and excited to watch
my 5ghz is so low in range... but its fast for loading. Need a new router..
You may check and find adapter like
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*ALFA AWUS036ACHM*
Mesh exist for a reason 👍🏻
Noti gang 🤟
I only have a single wifi 6 device
15 th yay
1st
It feels like the video.. is too long ...9 random info.. 2minutes actual explanation
Maybe it would help to do 3 types of explanations.. 1) ELI5 2) standard 3) Dev lol