Mr Judge Zondo I like the manner in which you ask some questions. It displays a high level of professionalism and you know how to follow up on your question.
This witness is seriously lacking in C S. Chairperson of SAA - former. She is going to face serious adverse findings against her. Then NPA needs to prosecute her and gift her with orange overall
As long as, the tendering system exist, we are still going to have more Zondo communication of enquiries and more money 💰 spent....tendering system is a root of corruption in our country....painfully ANC sees nothing wrong with this system, it empower very few black elites mostly associated with ruling party .millions of black South African remain poor.if it wasn't because of tenders, we wouldn't be here...
Yho! I've lost count of the number of times I've screamed "Answer the question!". Adv. Hofmeyer and DCJ Zondo deserve an award of patience because wow!
@@thabangmasemola2087 Im so shocked. A whole CA who doesnt know the most basic accounting/ procurement principles. "It is ok for a decision maker to meet with a tender bidder as long as they dont discuss the tender and as long as the decision maker doesnt feel their objectivity will be affected🤯🤯🤯. I am sure SA's CAs were so embarrassed by these new rules of hers 🙈🙈🙈
I love how the chairperson and the evidence leader are patient. I would have lost my cool her. This lady is not answering the questions at all.😥😥😥As we continue to have no pay as the employees of SAA and SAAT.😥😥😥😥😥It is sad that we thought we had leaders and only find out the truth like this.😥😥😥🙄🙄🙄🙄
i feel like Zondo has made up his mind about miss Kwinana, very unfair to her, hes not even giving her lawyers chance but giving the other lady all the time....
"He knows, she knows, is hearsay evidence. This is not a court proceeding to pressure an individual to "squeal on" others. TRUTH is a principle of honor to what is true.
Ms Kwinana is one of the persons that could be easily manipulated because of her not having the skills and the knowlege that she needed to be the chair person of any board. I feel sorry for her. But at the other hand she was intelligent enough to run her own businesess.
Basically she doesn't remember anything,doesn't know when why and what happened I'm shocked we are being lead by such people, I'm still shocked that she's a chartered accountant
@@thabangmasemola2087 she knows everything and she is very arrogant the same as her attorney. They want to play the race game. She is a member of the board and dont know why an outsider was at the mtg. She doesnt know the PFMA rules but is handling contracts. What a bluff. She has no conscience robbing the poor. What a shame.
This cake thing is not as bad as I had of it earlier.. I think she was against because maybe they counted her out on the new tender to replace air chefs..
@patrick what do you expect them to do , they are the bottom of the barrel in stupidity ! It is frightening that we pay such huge taxes and pay IDIOTS like this. It is time we get the educated people in place , indian , white or colored ,we need people with brains run this country ; Not Clowns
@@amm7088 all you said is true until you started putting race in it. Lots of competent black professionals in our country, but would not be appointed in the SOEs due to comrades. Look at Vuyani Jarana who quickly left SAA after realizing the rot (he was extremely successful at Vodacom prio).
@@life_with_yolanda siad what ! Its time we called a spade a spade! Maybe talk a few minutes and reflect on the pathetic state of this country! Mismanagement , thieving and thuggery certainly was the order of the day ! I really care , so sick and tired of blaming everything on racism , what a cheap way to try and gain ground! Fortunately the proof of the pudding is in the eating , likewise we cannot let the blind lead the blind
Justice Condo is making this commission personal. He is attacking the attorney personally. "I am going to stop you"; " You are wasting my time". They have a right to be heard - Not because he feel pressed for his time. This is "structured intimidation".
Justice Zondo has the patience of a saint.
I like Adv. Hofmeyer. She is sharp and precise 👌👍
She's insinuating....
Mr Judge Zondo I like the manner in which you ask some questions. It displays a high level of professionalism and you know how to follow up on your question.
DCJ you are officially the worlds most patient person. I wish I could be that patient. So inspiring you are 🙏❤
Honestly!!!
I’m more like Kate. Cheeky asF.😭
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I wish we can have lawyers like mrs hofmeyer,excellent Mrs hoofmeyer
This explains a lot, SAA is ran like a fat cake spaza
All SOEs my friend. Sad Truth. Pure 9 wasted years.
This witness is seriously lacking in C S. Chairperson of SAA - former. She is going to face serious adverse findings against her. Then NPA needs to prosecute her and gift her with orange overall
Advocate Hofmeyer is my favorite. I don't understand how Ms kwinana obtained her chartered accountants qualification. She is pathetic
And this Mbanjwa woman too how did she obtain her qualifications, eish look at the way she's sitting I'm soo annoyed
People change over time, especially if you wwere out of practice for a long time
Dcj you are a decent person with lots of patience you are right person for that position 😀
Sorry people I cant take this any more , packing away the popcorn machine and having a dop.I think I need it after this torture.😂😂😁
😂😂😂😂I agree😂😂😂😂😂
Advocate Hofmoyer and Zondo are the Double impact of the commission
As long as, the tendering system exist, we are still going to have more Zondo communication of enquiries and more money 💰 spent....tendering system is a root of corruption in our country....painfully ANC sees nothing wrong with this system, it empower very few black elites mostly associated with ruling party .millions of black South African remain poor.if it wasn't because of tenders, we wouldn't be here...
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What an embarassment to a board member's duties and responsabilities..
Miss Hofmeyer is simply the best in what she does.
This flabbergasted gwinya was the worst!!! How do people come to the decision to vote for the ANC mara yehh?!!!
Ms Kwanana and her counsel are just the same 🤣🤣🤣
Ms Kwinana qualification must be investigated because she doesn't come out like a qualified Accountant 🤷🙈😅👍👌
True Thabo
Yho! I've lost count of the number of times I've screamed "Answer the question!". Adv. Hofmeyer and DCJ Zondo deserve an award of patience because wow!
They enjoyed the LOOT and NOW they are SHAKING, ND CANT SLEEP at night.
Lock them up!!
There's no honour among thieves!Theres only jail sentence waiting for them.
How did the ANC allow such incompetent, unintelligent and corrupt people to be appointed to our SOE's? Disgraceful.
These people were deployed on purpose. The bigger fish is the one instructed them to not mention his or her name on these enquiries..
For a CA; the lack of clarity in answers is shocking beyond words.🤯🤯🤯
All we got was basically, for instance,for example,I don't know,
@@thabangmasemola2087 Im so shocked. A whole CA who doesnt know the most basic accounting/ procurement principles. "It is ok for a decision maker to meet with a tender bidder as long as they dont discuss the tender and as long as the decision maker doesnt feel their objectivity will be affected🤯🤯🤯. I am sure SA's CAs were so embarrassed by these new rules of hers 🙈🙈🙈
I'm so flabbergasted by her being in that position.
🤣🤣🤣 eish. If she could occupy such a position I can be president of Mars!
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Hofmeyer will make you sweat until you shine bright like a diamond. 🔥
Pathetic to say the least, T&C of a contract are in fact the contract, come on ma'am!
The lady is clearly not the person for that position 🙄she must go 🙄😒🤣
I think shes not well guys
I love how the chairperson and the evidence leader are patient. I would have lost my cool her. This lady is not answering the questions at all.😥😥😥As we continue to have no pay as the employees of SAA and SAAT.😥😥😥😥😥It is sad that we thought we had leaders and only find out the truth like this.😥😥😥🙄🙄🙄🙄
Managed brilliantly Kate
Yhooo the level of answering to questions is questionable... I will be stressed to be asking her questions
Mama Kwinana, collect your orange overall and go straight to jail.
Ms Kwinana and Bathabile Dlamini are in the same WhatsApp 🙈😱😅
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Why diddnt SAA then invited me to their board meetings if from time to time outsiders were invited 🤔
I would have loved to attend as well 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣me too
Although her bona fides remain questionable, this Kwinana lady is sharp. She is not a dummy.
She's smart to make a leaving and she was giving an opportunity and she used it 😂😂
Now Mr. Zondo, you are are on the right track. Go hard hear, to get to the truth.
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Judge Zondo is wonderful.
Ms kwinana what was my question?
I've forgotten about it 😂😂😂😂
A wise person knows what the answer is, and do not have to reason by putting pressure on a witness.
U making noise
consistency is a virtue indeed!
Reduce the baking powder 😒😓
😂😂😂😂 that part takes the trophy 😂😂😂
I should have proposed to be approved without being rechecked for the final approval.That's disaster.
Weldone Ms Kwinana. Local companies deserves protection against international companies
Even when those local companies are failing abysmally??? Uhm ok 👌🏼
@@DIJONh100 we all know these local companies belongs to WMC
@@vhenganilucky2878 that actually is not a fact.
Whatever
@@vhenganilucky2878 I guess your capacity to understand is equal to Ms Kwinana's... Are you a CA?
i feel like Zondo has made up his mind about miss Kwinana, very unfair to her, hes not even giving her lawyers chance but giving the other lady all the time....
I wander how did this mama get a position in garvement,it's questionable
"He knows, she knows, is hearsay evidence. This is not a court proceeding to pressure an individual to "squeal on" others. TRUTH is a principle of honor to what is true.
should they get jail time ..you can safely give them the key...they won't know how to use it....
I would like to get that job where I can not go through contracts but deal with terms and conditions . Sounds so easy
Papsak --- supplied by Air Chefs
Kwinana is the most arrogant witness 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙈🙈🙈
Arrogant or dum?
@@lucasmolebale832 😂😂😂😂
@@lucasmolebale832 she is dumb! And her attorney is an embarrassment.
@desi girl she is not arrogant she is IGNORANT !do you think our SOEs went for down with intelligent rule
Is she tired or is she not feeling Well?
Uyazi this is a movie the difference is that its live and we are part of it.
She is giving facts. Listen to her.
Come on dude, she's LYING, cannot answer straight because she's lying. Zondo has to intervene.
Both facts and lies. Mna I think the biggest thieves are the ones who gave her the role so they use her..
He is now deliberately rude. This now "horrifieds me". Now blames the witness. Trust? She is disrespecting you. "Keep quiet" -
Ms Kwinana is one of the persons that could be easily manipulated because of her not having the skills and the knowlege that she needed to be the chair person of any board. I feel sorry for her. But at the other hand she was intelligent enough to run her own businesess.
This mampara is incompetent as a office bearer of an sort must of smuggled her accounting degree wonder how much she bribed for that
Ms Mbanjwa you are so naughty but I love you to bits. I think everyone should have a friend like that.😂🤸♂️🤸♂️🤸♂️
I like her because she is doing her job very attentive listens very carefully to every question protects he
No wonder why the soe r in a shamble with clowns like this.
They don't remember anything, they didn't say that, they didn't say that, blah, blah, blah..
@@nonamenoname7420 u r totally correct. They dont know what happens in a board meeting or can't recall.
Basically she doesn't remember anything,doesn't know when why and what happened I'm shocked we are being lead by such people, I'm still shocked that she's a chartered accountant
@@thabangmasemola2087 she knows everything and she is very arrogant the same as her attorney. They want to play the race game. She is a member of the board and dont know why an outsider was at the mtg. She doesnt know the PFMA rules but is handling contracts. What a bluff. She has no conscience robbing the poor. What a shame.
Imagine having her as your Company CA. Worse than the movie One flew over the Cuckoos nest.
She hasn't said fockol
This cake thing is not as bad as I had of it earlier.. I think she was against because maybe they counted her out on the new tender to replace air chefs..
And now they have all lost their jobs. Well done
Yiiiiii.....ma Kuqala nkosikazi.Khaumekuqala nğokuphendula elakhoithuba liyeza.Yimangokucaphuka kuuba uyokeubidanise iintambo.Kweu!!
She mentioned one name in connection with the "board in fear"
This witness is a "small fish" in this process.
I'm so interested when they have the big fish in the frying pan..
chicken or beef Vetkoek - I was never offered that??
I now understand why SAA is in business rescue.
I have asked this, and I will ask it again; Is Ms. Mbanjwa really legally trained?
This commission started well, but now has turned into trying to "force outcomes". Putting words into the witnesses mouths has now become the norm.
@patrick what do you expect them to do , they are the bottom of the barrel in stupidity ! It is frightening that we pay such huge taxes and pay IDIOTS like this. It is time we get the educated people in place , indian , white or colored ,we need people with brains run this country ; Not Clowns
@@amm7088 all you said is true until you started putting race in it. Lots of competent black professionals in our country, but would not be appointed in the SOEs due to comrades. Look at Vuyani Jarana who quickly left SAA after realizing the rot (he was extremely successful at Vodacom prio).
@@amm7088 After reading your comment I am now more than certain that you and your kind are precisely what is wrong with this country 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@amm7088 wow did you just say that. How Racist of you. 😂😂😂😂 are people this blatantly racist wow. I keep telling myself we getting better
@@life_with_yolanda siad what ! Its time we called a spade a spade! Maybe talk a few minutes and reflect on the pathetic state of this country! Mismanagement , thieving and thuggery certainly was the order of the day ! I really care , so sick and tired of blaming everything on racism , what a cheap way to try and gain ground! Fortunately the proof of the pudding is in the eating , likewise we cannot let the blind lead the blind
what a circus at SAA......is this for real....
Is she a competent leader or what, Help Lord Help, when is her time up, just saying
She is either nervous or finds it extremely difficult to articulate herself…
This is reasoning of human intellect which is faulty and can easily be bias.
There should have been an interpreter of her home language.. She doesn't understand a singe question
Justice Condo is making this commission personal. He is attacking the attorney personally. "I am going to stop you"; " You are wasting my time". They have a right to be heard - Not because he feel pressed for his time. This is "structured intimidation".
Mr Paulse: I guess you simply do not understand process. She will have an opportunity to cross-examine.
Ms Kwinana uyandigqiba yhooo 🤣🤣🤣🔥
i just hope that after this commission people are going to face the music. We can't be lead by people like this.
Wholly corrupt!
I cannot decide between her and Bathabile Dlamini ?
What qualification is Ms Kwinana is having 🤷
BCom Accounting according to her
Please stop giving your friends job they don't qualify for especially in leadership where people life lays in the balance, just saying
Why is Zondo blocking her? Where is her lawyer?
Who is blocking who? Where is whose lawyer where?
Interrupts again angrily.
You are stunned by her ignorance and lack of expertise but that's what BEE means to most people,
Please Lawyer, stop this abuse on your client. It's important.
Is she really a CA?
I'm highly doubtful,with that reasoning capacity
She qualified and ignored CPD...
No. She's AC - Accounting Clerk😂😃
CA - "Certified Abnormal"
Where did these 2 meet, must have attended the same school.
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Yes
omg.......I just cannot believe the garbage I have been watching
Kakistocracy At Its BEST!
Waitse we are in trouble 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
@@keneilwem65 "Vetkoek Queen"!
Where is this clown from?
Should be the clown from other clowns of the previous administration of nine wasted years.
Hey SouthAfrica oh shame what is wrong ?
chartered accountant deployed by the anc, this is what you u voted for....
Whose parent is this ?
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Zondo again blocks her and is covering something or someone.
She is annoying this woman.
Prep prep prepared 🤣🤣
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Akaphilanga shame lomama
I DONT NOW
mara gogo y udla wedwa
Interrupts again.