Who gave seleke the title of Advocate? Can it be taken back coz he seems clueless. Even Zondo is teaching him how to lead evidence. A 1st year law student Can do better
The sooner the country realise that the public enemy is not necessary Zuma but Pravin & the President on selling the SOE’s to private guys the better. Brian & the likes of Koko had Eskom’s best interest & the country not the private guys whose been benefiting for all this years. The greed of Oppenheimer mines & other big giant (Anglo, Exxaro, BHP Billiton, etc) with the 40 year contracts is disheartening & evil.
I agree. Molefe is paying the price for canning that agreement. That's y they sending him the papers 2 days before he appeared. They tried to screw him, but his brain is sharp.
If everyone was interested in getting to the bottom of this they would acknowledge that Tegeta only took over becuase they were willing to not increase. Pembani was way ahead of Tegeta when it comes to taking over Optimum but they too wanted an increase.
Why on earth would a GCEo be crucified for refusing to allow a change in supplier price with such a margin? Who's benefitting out of that deal coz it's no eskom? And who's interests are being protected? Why must he answer for optimum as if he was its Ceo?
This seleka guy is out of his depth. Y shud a private company like ocm b allowed to milk the public simply bcoz is having financial difficulties? Who cares.
Why vele? If this about Eskom then why is Optimum taking center stage? This is not about Eskom. It is about Tegeta taking over Optimum. The direction is that Eskom should have stopped it. Even if it meant that the financial implications would render Eskom insolvent.
I respect Mr Molefe...only if i knew all this when he was still at Eskom.....i hope everyone see ukuth le media esi rely kuyona for our information push a particular narrative
So experts came and looked at financial position of OCM and recommended a price and compared it to market prices. I see a big flaw in this as they should have discounted the fact that optimum walked into a mine without paying a cent so at no point would they have been entitled to a market related price.
This lawyer keeps saying I'm not pushing a certain narrative. This narrative is Molefe was wrong for canning the price increase negotiations. That's all he getting at.
Buddy, Molefe told you that he does not have proof that Ramaphosa sought to capture Eskom. He told you that all that he said especially his fireworks opening statement was noise.
Joe Mahlangu, you look too old for lack of tolerance like that. But maturity is not for all. Some remain, ehhh...you can complete the sentence as you like but you can't use tolerant, respectful, considerate or similar.
Lawyers are weird people. It appears as if they reach a conclusion then try get the accused to agree to their conclusion. Mr. Molefe clearly explains what happened but his statements don’t get taken into consideration.
So OCM threatened to breach the contract by stopping supply and breached the agreement by stopping supply, all in the name of forcing Eskom to provide them with financial assistance?
Molefe says all that he has told us was in his words" My postulation was that they were hoping to use Mr Ramaphosa’s position to help them negotiate out of the pickle.” Molefe said he had no proof that Ramaphosa deliberately acted in the interests of Glencore, but he could have benefitted. Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo asked: “But you accept that it’s more of speculation?”Yes was Molefe answer. Now? What about your stand. Ramaphosa is laughing out loud at this clown.
This commission needed somebody of his calibre so that it will look genuine otherwise the state capture was long before these guys. Their crime was to try to unbundle the state.
I totally agree with you. As a fellow South African I am very proud that we have a brillant judge of his calibre in our fold. He is very patient and partisan and is calm and level headed. I salute him and hope that he becomes our next C J.
Zondo cannot in gud conscience close this so called state capture without calling Ramaphosa to answer. It's funny that when people talk about Ramaphosa Treasury refuse to giv money to the Commission but money was always available when they wantef to feed us stories about the Guptas n Zuma. We want accountability from Ramaphosa and his so called gud guys
People, think about this: (1) I discriminate again st you because you are black. I hear you say this is bad. (2) I insult you because I don't agree with you. I hear you say this too is bad. Why do it? So, do not I suit anyone on a public platform. If you feel intelligent to insult anyone, do it in their faces, okay?
Hey my friends Ramaphosa is not a politician it's a businessman so just wait and see big things are coming Mr cup cakes the darling induda e ne nga ithemba Mr trasperent
can you further elaborate on your opinion, so that we can be on the same page, is your statement based on the fact that both were there or you were there before him and you gazelled more than him?
Seleke is so bad it's not funny. Bring back Pretoria. Clearly this Seleke has spent time alongside Pretoria and still has not learnt a thing. He is a sorry prosecutor, apologetic every other time. Fire this man, at his age, he has reached the top and the top is very low.
Felliw TH-camrs , please and for the sake of everyone interested in comments, get your spelling right, otherwise we guess what you mean to say and it's frustrating. In fact it is utter nonsense.
Aahhh. ...you picked it up. You are getting clever neh? It's a genuine spelling mistake. My apologies. I meant, ....you guessed it, fellow. That's right, fellow TH-camrs.
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Thanks Ntate Molefe for you to open our eyes Ramaphosa his a criminal
Who gave seleke the title of Advocate? Can it be taken back coz he seems clueless. Even Zondo is teaching him how to lead evidence. A 1st year law student Can do better
Why is Zondo trying to find a way out for the coal prize increases
They sound like they are pleading the case for the private mine company rather than the State in Eskom
He is captured
Watch this at 1.5X speed and save yourself an hour. You're welcome.
it actually sound normal at 1.5X Thanks
I am disappointed it seems the commission is not for the state
Exactly
Treasonous
The sooner the country realise that the public enemy is not necessary Zuma but Pravin & the President on selling the SOE’s to private guys the better. Brian & the likes of Koko had Eskom’s best interest & the country not the private guys whose been benefiting for all this years. The greed of Oppenheimer mines & other big giant (Anglo, Exxaro, BHP Billiton, etc) with the 40 year contracts is disheartening & evil.
This is why the commission isn't getting any more money. Yeses we hated alot of people for no reason.
Sounds like the Commission thought it was prudent for Optimum to get an increase, but as CEO Brian makes sense about why he didn’t increase the price.
EXACTLY!!!!
I agree. Molefe is paying the price for canning that agreement. That's y they sending him the papers 2 days before he appeared. They tried to screw him, but his brain is sharp.
If everyone was interested in getting to the bottom of this they would acknowledge that Tegeta only took over becuase they were willing to not increase. Pembani was way ahead of Tegeta when it comes to taking over Optimum but they too wanted an increase.
Why on earth would a GCEo be crucified for refusing to allow a change in supplier price with such a margin? Who's benefitting out of that deal coz it's no eskom? And who's interests are being protected? Why must he answer for optimum as if he was its Ceo?
There is a definite fight for Glencore here. They are hoping it would make sense in a situation where the only other option was Tegeta.
Brian Molefe is too smart for the two guys...
The line of questioning is still that Eskom should have provided financial assistance to OCM? Would this have passed the Insolvency Liquidity Test?
a BIG NO
Respect Molefe
This seleka guy is out of his depth. Y shud a private company like ocm b allowed to milk the public simply bcoz is having financial difficulties? Who cares.
Agreed. He is punching way above his weight. He seems to me margistrates court prosecutor with low interest in his job.
Who cares indeed. For those who are pushing us to care, WHY?
I don't understand why they asking him about the company not eskom
Why vele? If this about Eskom then why is Optimum taking center stage? This is not about Eskom. It is about Tegeta taking over Optimum. The direction is that Eskom should have stopped it. Even if it meant that the financial implications would render Eskom insolvent.
This seleka guy is he really an advocate🤔🤔🤔
Zondo is one of the sell outs
Zondo was carried away by the media narrative. Now Brian and Koko r coming 2giv us the true picture. It's clear that Brian is no white man push over
And this seleke is the slow learner
@@1balambo Zondo is part of the agenda, anyone can see through his glasses.
This should be a podcast
I respect Mr Molefe...only if i knew all this when he was still at Eskom.....i hope everyone see ukuth le media esi rely kuyona for our information push a particular narrative
Thuli Mondonsela helped the narrative thru her one sides investigations
This issue needs to be dealt with Mr Zondo
Where is this Bheki? He got me in the mood and I now have time in my hands for him.
Only a matter of time until we start seeing some bots in the comment section trying to convince us that all that Brian is saying are lies. lol
They now saying it is fairy tales. Like they know anything about the subject. One would swear they know better than Brian.
@@sithenjwadladla4334They way it is so predictable, it ain't even funny😭
Zondo an Seleka ar in trouble, their bosses Ramanyusa an OCM at not happy about their performance today. They were schooled by Brian.
So experts came and looked at financial position of OCM and recommended a price and compared it to market prices. I see a big flaw in this as they should have discounted the fact that optimum walked into a mine without paying a cent so at no point would they have been entitled to a market related price.
200 or 400 years of coal in the ground? Which one is it?
This lawyer keeps saying I'm not pushing a certain narrative. This narrative is Molefe was wrong for canning the price increase negotiations. That's all he getting at.
These guys are not even considering what would have been best for Eskom.
Judgements favour power and money. The Zondo Commission, I wonder.
Buddy, Molefe told you that he does not have proof that Ramaphosa sought to capture Eskom. He told you that all that he said especially his fireworks opening statement was noise.
@@harveynkosi9090 you again bloody Ramampara agent. You will play every card to protect corrupt entities like neh.
@@harveynkosi9090 Buddy, just stop, had too much nonsense for the week, go fly a kit or something.
Joe Mahlangu, you look too old for lack of tolerance like that. But maturity is not for all. Some remain, ehhh...you can complete the sentence as you like but you can't use tolerant, respectful, considerate or similar.
@@nyathibheki3572 it's okay to differ. We beg to differ bustard. It's no sin and it does not make me your enemy, just your foe, maybe fool.
Lawyers are weird people. It appears as if they reach a conclusion then try get the accused to agree to their conclusion. Mr. Molefe clearly explains what happened but his statements don’t get taken into consideration.
It is very telling though. It shows which side of the argument they favour.
Brian Molefe handled Seleka..
I don't know how seleka got 2be an Advocate. He's like a candidate attorney appearing for the 1st time.
@@1balambo he rehearsed everything he wanted to say but Molefe is not having it.
Agreed. Seleke belongs to the margistrates court. He reached his high years ago and his high is very low
Makunyiwe once😂😂😂
Mr Seleka an absolute joke 😂😂😂
U can say that again. I lost respect not only for him but for the title of Advocate. Even my kindergarten boy can do a better job
Monopolies are absurdly arrogant beasts. OCM is one of the beasts.
Summons were explained accordingly, now we must continue. Mr Molefe was not arrested, this shouldn't be an issue.
So OCM threatened to breach the contract by stopping supply and breached the agreement by stopping supply, all in the name of forcing Eskom to provide them with financial assistance?
Molefe is sound, Ramaphosa sold ESKOM and hide under Zuma.
This is what you call articulate
Molefe says all that he has told us was in his words" My postulation was that they were hoping to use Mr Ramaphosa’s position to help them negotiate out of the pickle.”
Molefe said he had no proof that Ramaphosa deliberately acted in the interests of Glencore, but he could have benefitted.
Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo asked: “But you accept that it’s more of speculation?”Yes was Molefe answer. Now? What about your stand. Ramaphosa is laughing out loud at this clown.
Conflict of interest boet...
#justsaying
Zondo is very level-headed, he's got my vote for Chief Justice.
How?
He's asking relevant questions, seeks clarity, and gives the witness ample time to express himself
This commission needed somebody of his calibre so that it will look genuine otherwise the state capture was long before these guys. Their crime was to try to unbundle the state.
You have my absolute agreement, I submit my vote!
I totally agree with you.
As a fellow South African I am very proud that we have a brillant judge of his calibre in our fold. He is very patient and partisan and is calm and level headed. I salute him and hope that he becomes our next C J.
Sorry, I can't understand the language that they are speaking. It is foreign to me.
Zondo cannot in gud conscience close this so called state capture without calling Ramaphosa to answer. It's funny that when people talk about Ramaphosa Treasury refuse to giv money to the Commission but money was always available when they wantef to feed us stories about the Guptas n Zuma. We want accountability from Ramaphosa and his so called gud guys
It would help us understand your comment if you get spelling right, otherwise we don't know what you mean by "gud".
@@harveynkosi9090 u can ask if u want to understand or leave the comment for those who understand
@@harveynkosi9090 says a bloody spineless moronic moron. Your Ramaphosa and his slave masters are as corrupt as your narrow wicked brain baba.
@@nyathibheki3572 Thanks bra. Morons understand vulgar very well. But, the rest of us decent, mutually respecting people. Thank you sir.
@@nyathibheki3572 You need a job from the slave masters, you debt ridden genius.
Its like zuma dots are joining mo
Why do you find it okay to freely insult anyone simply because they express a different opinion to yours?
People, think about this: (1) I discriminate again st you because you are black. I hear you say this is bad. (2) I insult you because I don't agree with you. I hear you say this too is bad. Why do it? So, do not I suit anyone on a public platform. If you feel intelligent to insult anyone, do it in their faces, okay?
Hey my friends Ramaphosa is not a politician it's a businessman so just wait and see big things are coming Mr cup cakes the darling induda e ne nga ithemba Mr trasperent
This man is crazy...He must driven through Saxonwold shebeen before attending this commission.
Support your statement
can you further elaborate on your opinion, so that we can be on the same page, is your statement based on the fact that both were there or you were there before him and you gazelled more than him?
He is not watch the same thing with us forgive hime
Must see a Doctor, before u lose your mind completely.
Let's hope you are not under any substance
Seleke is so bad it's not funny. Bring back Pretoria. Clearly this Seleke has spent time alongside Pretoria and still has not learnt a thing. He is a sorry prosecutor, apologetic every other time. Fire this man, at his age, he has reached the top and the top is very low.
Felliw TH-camrs , please and for the sake of everyone interested in comments, get your spelling right, otherwise we guess what you mean to say and it's frustrating. In fact it is utter nonsense.
English is a language not a sign of intelligence, says a lot about your education which lacks information
@@kingk4094 if your education can't help you get your spelling right, you must wonder too!
And what is felliw?
Aahhh. ...you picked it up. You are getting clever neh? It's a genuine spelling mistake. My apologies. I meant, ....you guessed it, fellow. That's right, fellow TH-camrs.
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