The 3.17 update has made ROC mining much much easier. You now see crystals from 4000 meters instead of less than 1000. It also seems there are a lot more deposits on Daymar than there used to be. Before I gave up the ROC mining because the Prospector was so much more profitable. In 3.17 I am finding them to be equally profitable when mining on Daymar for non-quantanium deposits.
@@jumpyjunior1642 My last trip with the ROC DS it took 2 hours to fill it up, but I made $180,000. With the Prospector I can usually fill a load worth $100,000. If I am really lucky and find good rocks quick it can be in a half hour, but sometimes takes over an hour. That is on Daymar mining non-quantanium deposits. If you are serious about the money then mining quant on Lyria is the best bet.
Thanks , i found hadanite from 2km just to see what it was, so I was surprised. Maybe I just ignored much more cause I saw many points ping at 4km on radar.. 🤣
The ROC doesn't have 80 SCU of cargo, but 0.8 SCU. It's 80 cSCU, c is for "centi" in the metric system it means divided by 100. As a reminder, the Freelancer only has 66 SCU.
Some not that useful info you'll rarely find on guides online : * There are 3 cave size : small, medium and large. You can see the size by looking at the entrance : A small walkable entrance with boxes and light around leads to a small cave, a large side entrance on a hill but still walkable leads to a medium cave (usually for vehicles), a huge hole in the ground only accessible by ship leads to a large cave. Large cave can even have multiple levels at the entrance with gem deposits at each level. * You can mine size 2 gem deposit (Hadanite, Aphorite and Dolivine) with a prospector, but you will have to take the gems manually which takes a lot of time (might be useful in the future with tractor beams). * 4 players can mine a size 2 gem deposit with only multitools, but again it will take some time to store all the gems. * You can also take a ROC inside a medium or large cave, there you can use it to mine some of the gem deposits, but you'll be unable to drive far from the entrance. ROC can mine size 1 gem deposits if you're careful. * Cave hopping is better than regular cave mining. Go to a cave (large preferably), mine everything near the entrance but don't go too deep. Return to your ship, go on a bed, log out, then log in to another server and all the gem deposits are back. * Ship storage is not shared between players at the moment, but the ROC storage is. Until they fix ship storage, you can use a ROC to store all your gems while hand mining in a group. * Right now, there is no atmosphere inside a cave, even on planets with a breathable atmosphere. * Some caves have water inside making them too dangerous to use. It's very rare, but if you see one with water or if the entrance is close to water, just find another location. This will be fixed with 3.17 as you will no longer die when you touch water. * The website verseguide will provide you with all caves locations.
*Starts Strapping on a headlamp* well great, thanks WallySketch, now I have to go explore caves! I honestly didn't know that there were sizes! I'm definitely going to be checking this out! Thank you!
I finally tried this last night.(ROC in my CB). loved it . Didn't make a huge amount of money but didn't have any crashes or any dumb AI killing me... I didn't even bring a weapon. Thanks for this vid..you demystified it all for me.
@@BeardofOz Cutlass has good space.. you just need to make sure you back it in far enough that it doesn't block your way out on foot.. even if you do though it's possible to crawl under 😁. I still don't understand how the ship scanner can tell the make up of gem deposits ..I just eyeball it now and as long as there is hadanite it's worth stopping and cracking some rocks. The forward and down view is awful on the Cutlass though.. I find I have to fly with nose down at 45° but equal power on up and forward thrusters to see what is ahead of me.
I've found it's not reallyworth stopping for deposit of anything less than 3 hadanite rocks.. I keep going until I find the 7, 8, 9 clusters.. the ROC fills up quick then. Any idea what the actual storage of the ROC is ..says it's 80 but I've managed to get a little over 100 in . I was afraid it would glitch and I'd loose the lot so I tapped out then and sold it all but it seemed like it would keep going.. I tend to sell now when it's around half full though..just in case something goes wrong.
I just accept an Aberdeen Cave mission then aim at the mission tracker @ 200Meters away and stop at every group of 2 or more Hadanite I come across on my way to the cave mission, my ROC has 100% hadanite every single time. The gems I get from the caves is just a bonus.
So if you are taking a combat mission to find a cave to mine in, be sure to check the chest, leg, and backpack pieces of enemies for gems. Just select Loot on the body, then right click the backpack, chest, or leg and select Open. Take all the gems. Most of them will have gems stashed in their armor - no mining necessary. You can also find gems in loot crates in caves, so look out for that. You should be able to pull about 180k aUEC from the mission reward and the gems the hostiles have on them.
Dolivine is actually not wasted. This guy gave some false information. I have made millions by collecting dolivine either from dead Npcs or mined them. While it’s true that hadanite and aphorite crystals are more valuable but dolivine gives you 5 to 10 units per crystal while aphorite and hadanite only give 1 unit per crystal. The price of hadanite is 275 auec per crystal. Aphorite is 150 auec per crystal and dolivine is 130 per crystal. Here’s an example, you go in a cave and find two rocks. One contains hadanite while the other contains dolivine. You mine the hadanite rock and collect 8 hadanite crystals from it. After that you go mine the dolivine and get 10 dolivine crystals from it. After that you go and sell everything. What you will se when you sell hadanite is that you have only 8 units of hadanite. This will only give you 2200 auec. But when you try to sell the 10 dolivine crystals you will se that you have somewhere between 90 - 100 units of dolivine which will give you 11 700 - 13 000 auec.
you dont need to take out the roc when selling at a mining station. if your roc is inside your ship, just land next to the hut with the console. it should still be able to pickup the rocs inventory and be able to sell from there. :P hope this saves yall the hassle
@WallySketch In my experience about 2 hours to fill a ROC, if no crashes of course. If the Extraction Mode does not work, jump out of the vehicle and back in, seems to reset it.
I'm a little confused. The ROC holds 0.8 SCU of storage (80 cSCU). If hadanite sells for 275 aUEC / unit. That should mean (0.8 * 100) * 275 = 22,000 aUEC for a full ROC of hadanite, not 200k? Am i doing my math wrong?
To the error in your math, I couldn't point it out, I'm just a dude with a Beard. But 200k is most definitely possible in one run. I've just this moment sold 296 units of Aphorite and 120 units of Hadanite (a smidge over half full ROC) for 78k. I was on Microtech cruising and mining hence the rubbish result, but the planets just so pretty.
@@BeardofOz I figured out where my math was wrong. Hadanite actually sells for 275 per 0.1 Units. The ROC stores 0.8 SCU (80 cSCU). (0.8 SCU * 100) = 80 Units of Hadanite Hadanite sells for 275 aUEC per 0.1 Units So, 275 * (80 / 0.1) = 220,000 aUEC
@@fisc_rl hadanite is measured in microSCU (μSCU) instead of centiSCU (cSCU). An SCU is 100 cSCU or 1,000,000 μSCU. hadanite is 1,000 μSCU. take 1,000,000 and divide by 1000, you get 1,000 hadanite per scu. multiply by .8 and you get 800 hadanite at .8 scu capacity of the ROC.
good luck beating the bug/crash race before getting 200k worth back to sale (3.17), dont get me wrong I wish it was safe to do because I actually find it way cooler and funner to do ROC mining
I keep having the worst luck trying to find those small gem deposits flying around around 1000 meters or less going at about 100. Twice now I've gone and both times it took an hour or so to find something minable. Im running the Cutty Black and the ROC
@@BeardofOz That was Aberdeen. I had much better luck my last run though. Filled my ROC about 1/4 of the way, found another 8 nodes of hadanite, busted open one of the rocks and then my ROC died on me... will try Daymar next
The ROC can only mine Hadanite, Aphorite and Dolvine. The Rock shaped icons that you'll see on a planets surface can only be mined with a ship. Watch my Prospector mining guide if you haven't already if thats what you're chasing!
@@BeardofOz thanks, that sounds like what I’m looking for. Just trying to get something, been losing stuff to people camping LZ’s and it’s frustrating.
The 3.17 update has made ROC mining much much easier. You now see crystals from 4000 meters instead of less than 1000. It also seems there are a lot more deposits on Daymar than there used to be. Before I gave up the ROC mining because the Prospector was so much more profitable. In 3.17 I am finding them to be equally profitable when mining on Daymar for non-quantanium deposits.
After this weeks video Im going to be doing a bit of ROC mining. I've always quite enjoyed it!
Any update? How has this been so far?
@@jumpyjunior1642 My last trip with the ROC DS it took 2 hours to fill it up, but I made $180,000. With the Prospector I can usually fill a load worth $100,000. If I am really lucky and find good rocks quick it can be in a half hour, but sometimes takes over an hour. That is on Daymar mining non-quantanium deposits. If you are serious about the money then mining quant on Lyria is the best bet.
Thanks , i found hadanite from 2km just to see what it was, so I was surprised. Maybe I just ignored much more cause I saw many points ping at 4km on radar.. 🤣
The ROC doesn't have 80 SCU of cargo, but 0.8 SCU. It's 80 cSCU, c is for "centi" in the metric system it means divided by 100. As a reminder, the Freelancer only has 66 SCU.
Thank you for the clarification WallySketch!
@@BeardofOz I've been wondering for a while what cSCU was too, and I've backed since 2013. Lmao.
Some not that useful info you'll rarely find on guides online :
* There are 3 cave size : small, medium and large. You can see the size by looking at the entrance : A small walkable entrance with boxes and light around leads to a small cave, a large side entrance on a hill but still walkable leads to a medium cave (usually for vehicles), a huge hole in the ground only accessible by ship leads to a large cave. Large cave can even have multiple levels at the entrance with gem deposits at each level.
* You can mine size 2 gem deposit (Hadanite, Aphorite and Dolivine) with a prospector, but you will have to take the gems manually which takes a lot of time (might be useful in the future with tractor beams).
* 4 players can mine a size 2 gem deposit with only multitools, but again it will take some time to store all the gems.
* You can also take a ROC inside a medium or large cave, there you can use it to mine some of the gem deposits, but you'll be unable to drive far from the entrance. ROC can mine size 1 gem deposits if you're careful.
* Cave hopping is better than regular cave mining. Go to a cave (large preferably), mine everything near the entrance but don't go too deep. Return to your ship, go on a bed, log out, then log in to another server and all the gem deposits are back.
* Ship storage is not shared between players at the moment, but the ROC storage is. Until they fix ship storage, you can use a ROC to store all your gems while hand mining in a group.
* Right now, there is no atmosphere inside a cave, even on planets with a breathable atmosphere.
* Some caves have water inside making them too dangerous to use. It's very rare, but if you see one with water or if the entrance is close to water, just find another location. This will be fixed with 3.17 as you will no longer die when you touch water.
* The website verseguide will provide you with all caves locations.
*Starts Strapping on a headlamp* well great, thanks WallySketch, now I have to go explore caves! I honestly didn't know that there were sizes! I'm definitely going to be checking this out! Thank you!
I finally tried this last night.(ROC in my CB). loved it . Didn't make a huge amount of money but didn't have any crashes or any dumb AI killing me... I didn't even bring a weapon. Thanks for this vid..you demystified it all for me.
I've always liked ROC mining. If I ever switch my starter from the Nomad, whatever I get is going to need space for my ROC
@@BeardofOz Cutlass has good space.. you just need to make sure you back it in far enough that it doesn't block your way out on foot.. even if you do though it's possible to crawl under 😁. I still don't understand how the ship scanner can tell the make up of gem deposits ..I just eyeball it now and as long as there is hadanite it's worth stopping and cracking some rocks. The forward and down view is awful on the Cutlass though.. I find I have to fly with nose down at 45° but equal power on up and forward thrusters to see what is ahead of me.
I've found it's not reallyworth stopping for deposit of anything less than 3 hadanite rocks.. I keep going until I find the 7, 8, 9 clusters.. the ROC fills up quick then. Any idea what the actual storage of the ROC is ..says it's 80 but I've managed to get a little over 100 in . I was afraid it would glitch and I'd loose the lot so I tapped out then and sold it all but it seemed like it would keep going.. I tend to sell now when it's around half full though..just in case something goes wrong.
Just a bit of info from my experience. I’m able to sell from the ROC when it’s stored in my Constellation on the pad at mining facilities.
I just accept an Aberdeen Cave mission then aim at the mission tracker @ 200Meters away and stop at every group of 2 or more Hadanite I come across on my way to the cave mission, my ROC has 100% hadanite every single time. The gems I get from the caves is just a bonus.
So if you are taking a combat mission to find a cave to mine in, be sure to check the chest, leg, and backpack pieces of enemies for gems. Just select Loot on the body, then right click the backpack, chest, or leg and select Open. Take all the gems. Most of them will have gems stashed in their armor - no mining necessary. You can also find gems in loot crates in caves, so look out for that. You should be able to pull about 180k aUEC from the mission reward and the gems the hostiles have on them.
You can find the multi tool just laying around mining facilities on Lyria as well as attachments for the
I really enjoy watching your films from SC. Would like to watch them more with 3.18v
Just seeing you being able to put the ROC onto the nomad without the physics engine having a stroke was entertaining enough.
I'm lucky to be alive
Dolivine is actually not wasted. This guy gave some false information. I have made millions by collecting dolivine either from dead Npcs or mined them. While it’s true that hadanite and aphorite crystals are more valuable but dolivine gives you 5 to 10 units per crystal while aphorite and hadanite only give 1 unit per crystal.
The price of hadanite is 275 auec per crystal. Aphorite is 150 auec per crystal and dolivine is 130 per crystal.
Here’s an example, you go in a cave and find two rocks. One contains hadanite while the other contains dolivine. You mine the hadanite rock and collect 8 hadanite crystals from it. After that you go mine the dolivine and get 10 dolivine crystals from it. After that you go and sell everything. What you will se when you sell hadanite is that you have only 8 units of hadanite. This will only give you 2200 auec. But when you try to sell the 10 dolivine crystals you will se that you have somewhere between 90 - 100 units of dolivine which will give you 11 700 - 13 000 auec.
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normally i tool myself up spending on back packs guns etc, scrape my ship on something and blow up and lose it all 🤣
you dont need to take out the roc when selling at a mining station. if your roc is inside your ship, just land next to the hut with the console. it should still be able to pickup the rocs inventory and be able to sell from there. :P hope this saves yall the hassle
Pro tip: When handmining you can dubble tap F to pick up whatever you are aiming at on the ground
Wait so does the ROC fit in the Cutlass Black?
Absolutely!
Great vid. The only time dolivine is any good is in klesher prison.👍
Cool vid! Any timeframe for how long it takes to fill up an ROC?
I guess that really depends on how frequently you find deposits and what density the deposit is.
Somewhere between 1h to 4h depending on your luck, organisation, and how buggy the mining/extraction mode is.
@WallySketch In my experience about 2 hours to fill a ROC, if no crashes of course. If the Extraction Mode does not work, jump out of the vehicle and back in, seems to reset it.
dang im addicted to this channel
1:10 So, basically, I'd have my own (GMod) Physgun when the the Tractor Beam's attached? XD
You should have more subs your vids are the best
How do I sell my prospector for a nomad and a Roc?
I'm a little confused.
The ROC holds 0.8 SCU of storage (80 cSCU). If hadanite sells for 275 aUEC / unit. That should mean (0.8 * 100) * 275 = 22,000 aUEC for a full ROC of hadanite, not 200k? Am i doing my math wrong?
To the error in your math, I couldn't point it out, I'm just a dude with a Beard. But 200k is most definitely possible in one run. I've just this moment sold 296 units of Aphorite and 120 units of Hadanite (a smidge over half full ROC) for 78k. I was on Microtech cruising and mining hence the rubbish result, but the planets just so pretty.
@@BeardofOz
I figured out where my math was wrong. Hadanite actually sells for 275 per 0.1 Units.
The ROC stores 0.8 SCU (80 cSCU).
(0.8 SCU * 100) = 80 Units of Hadanite
Hadanite sells for 275 aUEC per 0.1 Units
So, 275 * (80 / 0.1) = 220,000 aUEC
@@fisc_rl hadanite is measured in microSCU (μSCU) instead of centiSCU (cSCU). An SCU is 100 cSCU or 1,000,000 μSCU. hadanite is 1,000 μSCU. take 1,000,000 and divide by 1000, you get 1,000 hadanite per scu. multiply by .8 and you get 800 hadanite at .8 scu capacity of the ROC.
good luck beating the bug/crash race before getting 200k worth back to sale (3.17), dont get me wrong I wish it was safe to do because I actually find it way cooler and funner to do ROC mining
I feel that Zim (great name btw). My run yesterday and today has been less Star Citizen, more Warhammer 30k 😅
I keep having the worst luck trying to find those small gem deposits flying around around 1000 meters or less going at about 100. Twice now I've gone and both times it took an hour or so to find something minable. Im running the Cutty Black and the ROC
Thats rough, which moon did you end up going to?
@@BeardofOz That was Aberdeen. I had much better luck my last run though. Filled my ROC about 1/4 of the way, found another 8 nodes of hadanite, busted open one of the rocks and then my ROC died on me... will try Daymar next
@@whalahiguy Oh man youre just not having a good day on SC huh? I just had the server dump me on the last of a group bounty mission so i feel it
If they could fix the swarm of bees that you summon when collecting the crystals I’d do this a bit more often, cleaning that mess was the worst
Hopefully one day! And being able to stack/group transfer them to your ship would be amazing! I'd just hadanite mine all day!
It's fixed as of 3.17! Also, rocks don't spawn inside terrain anymore, so ROC mining is officially tits now.
@@BeardofOz it’s quite an art parking the ROC in the cutlass black and feels great doing it, especially in a hurry getting blasted
Great video. What ship is that? Is that a Nomad?
Certainly is! Im in love with this thing! I low-key want a wipe so I can start off fresh with just the Nomad.
I treat dolivine as the, "im running out of the good stuff and i want to wrap up"
Please make a video on cargo run
What ship is he using in this video?
the Nomad
So do you need the rover to do surface mining? I’ve wondered if you can use it anywhere.
The ROC can only mine Hadanite, Aphorite and Dolvine. The Rock shaped icons that you'll see on a planets surface can only be mined with a ship. Watch my Prospector mining guide if you haven't already if thats what you're chasing!
@@BeardofOz thanks, that sounds like what I’m looking for. Just trying to get something, been losing stuff to people camping LZ’s and it’s frustrating.
Thank you.
You're welcome!
"Pythagoras baby"
😂
the new range is under 3000 meter.
sick bruh
...A FULL ROC will bring $200K, I see a problem with that, the dreaded 30K is still a thing. But now you don't respawn with your gear..
The 30ks have become something of a nuisance of late
this no longer works in 3.17 every time i mine guess what? constant fucking crashing every hour makes it not worth wasting money buying the roc
half of the time mining with roc you'll get 30k error, another half is pirates killing you. good luck mining!
Why not take the extra 1 second to explain why the green kind is a waste of time? Lame
idk what it was like when you made this video, but in 3.18.1 it's really only worth it to mine Hadonite