In So What?! We Take A Look At InSoFast Continuous Insulation
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- Today Matt meets with Ed Scherrer and he gives us the low down on the uses and benefits of InSoFast. Check Out InSoFast here: www.insofast.com/
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I build shipping container workshops full-time and we’ve been using this product for years. Their products are a pleasure to work with.
You rule! Send us some videos and photos! We'd love to see the builds!
@@insofast-continuous-insulationI look forward to inquiring deeply into using your product. I have just initiated conceptual systems for building a new home in east Texas, which will be semi remote, with subcontractors used to the same old same old. I need to maximize my dollar for the sake of a substantive home with a lake view. This goes a long way, if I can detail how subs will install this to perfection. I have already been told I can Norma build a barndominium amidst the 100’ tall lines. So I need all the practicality I can get. I had hoped to have a walk out basement but it seems rare to find anyone in that region that knows what to do. I will reach out soon.
With this product there is no problems with condensation inside the shipping container in all weather ?
No mold or mildew problems ?
This is the most complete insulation system I'd ever seen.
And I love that they have a website with actual prices!
Thanks for the kind words :) Hopefully we can supply your next project!
A website with actual prices?!
That is a bigger innovation in that industry than the insulation itself. I'm going to have to check it out.
I used their product on the block walls of my basement in northern Virginia which I did myself. INSOFAST is FANTASTIC, easy and fast to install and very effective. I had one wall done and it already it made the space warmer and more comfortable. I’m not in the building trades. I’m an attorney. I had zero problems installing it and it was easy. I strongly recommend this.
Thanks for sharing! That’s awesome!
My daughters and I actually installed this in my one daughter’s 1940’s basement about 12ish years ago. We three ladies had it done in no time. The city inspector was very impressed with the product and ease of installation.
Girl Power! Thanks for sharing! If you ladies ever do it again...be sure to keep us posted :)
I went from a global corporate job to living in Minnesota (don't ask : ) I bought a foreclosure in 2012 and went to work fixing it up. It wasn't in bad condition - but I knew nothing. II just hired this and that skilled guy.
It was a walkout and the back and part if the side wall were not insulated. I used Insofast. As I didn't want to deal with permits, etc,. I just did it myself over the weekend when no workers were around. I cut and glued them to the wall. It was easy. I then put up sheetrock which was harder actually. I left the taping to the skilled guys : )
Monday morning the workers were stunned. They asked who did it? I never told them it was me : )
Insolfast ($543), along with putting in an egress window ($2000) done by a contractor, and my sweat equity, added a legal and usable bedroom to the property.
Dean from Insofast guided me. They were still a "start up" then. I went on to buy many more properties but none that needed Insofast unfortunately.
We appreciate you taking the time to share your experience (you have made Dean -and us- so proud)! Let us know next time you use the stuff! We'd love to film some content 😃
Correct me if I'm wrong but the product didn't fail in the cabinet test, the cabinet's wood did. The foam with the plastic studs was still securely mounted to the wall.
You got that right 😁
The screw pulled from the plastic stud
@@Adm_Guirk Watch again, the cabinet failed.
Man, this took a minute to get going, but once you actually got into the products this looks reasonably cool. I really really like how that polymer stud doesn’t appear likely to crack if you put a fastener near the edge.
I’ve been using In-Sofast for a long time. At least 10 years. It’s super fast and you can literally hang from any shelf or TV mount forever. We had two guys hang on a TV mount we installed on a basement wall. Excellent product.
One of the best ways to test the strength😉
This is GREAT! The fact the prices are on the website is really good. No wasting time. Thanks for sharing this!
No the prices arent that great considering it's a cheap product to manufacture.
@@ronnymcdonald2543 I did not comment on the prices themselves, just the fact that they exist on the site. Often with materials you have to "call us" and waste time figuring out prices. With this, you can buy and ship, no human interaction needed.
Incredibly innovative system!! You're a genius Ed!
Thanks Matt for being the very best builder buddy!!!
Rock on!
I've been slowly putting this stuff into my basement and it is SO easy to install. I started with the 2.5" kind with 1" of pink foamboard over it, but from now on I'll be using the 3.75" stuff and do it in one step.
Heck yeah! That's what we like to hear!
Yeah this is a brilliant product. Fewer parts, less failures, less labor
That's the idea!!@@crabkilla
I think this kind of thing is the future. Everyone will need exterior insulation sooner or later. Once everyone is putting down exterior insulation, everyone will then ask: isn't there a better way to fasten this stuff down?!?! The foam companies will build whole systems just like ZIP sheathing in a complex system to save you steps on the job site.
Probably the best home-building discovery can't believe I'm learning about this TODAY!
Love to hear that..it's never too late to learn something new!
This is amazingly impressive. Its no wonder why automakers are using so much adhesives for bonding metals vs welding now. And they do more and more every gen.
I have used this product in our basement here in Minnesota. Our foundation was bock. Waterproofed the wall and the panels went up quick and have not been an issue.
I would agree if your wall is not straight, that would be more challenging. They did that with this product on this old house.
Hope that basement is still treating you well!
I'd like to see a fireproof exterior (stucco, cement) over the foam. But I'd also like to know if it will create hazardous fumes for firefighters and occupants.
So much highly flammable materials in houses these days, when they burn they burn with a high intensity. I'd opt for less flammable insulations.
Check out SCIP construction. It’s the reverse of ICF so it may be what you are thinking of.
I used it in my basement several yrs ago. It was so easy and worked great! I highly recommend.
Matt, congrats on featuring Insofast! I have been watching their product development for several years.
We have a shipping container barn/ADU currently under permit review. Our intent is to use In So Fast on the exterior and spray foam with T studs on the interior walls. Shooting for PassivHaus standard.
Sounds like a project we'd like to hear more about!
@@insofast-continuous-insulation It's a six-container build at ground level using high cube containers, 3 for the garage, one for a workshop and two for an ADU. There will be a reefer container on top of the shop container for the mechanicals. Only the ADU will get InSoFast externally with spray foam internally. We hope to start the house build in another year when, hopefully, my stock goes up. We hope to be off-grid. Windows spec'd are LiteZone with an R-17 rating. We're located in Sebastopol, California. I intend on having a TH-cam channel to record the process and document our permaculture homestead.
LOVE this product Matt Thankyou !!! EXcellent product I'm thinking about my attic & will call them for tips , Love all your videos Matt!
Looking forward to chatting!
I love In-So-Fast. Used it on my own basement and have referred several buddies to use this stuff. Such a good product. Pro tip. Make sure you put the glue on the riveted stud and glue the corners. My cousin had a contractor install hers “2.5i” and the contractor glued it on backwards. 😢
I used Insofast on the interior of our 700sqft cottage we self built with dry stacked and fully grouted concrete block.
Apart from 1 or 2 places, we just used a high quality construction adhesive and added a Tapcon or w where needed.
The interlocking panels were a breeze to work with and pulling electrical through the provided chases was as simple as possible.
Hanging sheetrock was a breeze, even in the corners.
The only heat in our concrete block cotrage is a small 5000 btu vent free propane stove and we are quite comfortable at sub zero temps. Summer is comfortable at over 100f with a small window unit from Walmart.
We are absolutely happy with our decision to give Insofast a try!!
Awesome. Thanks for the first hand feedback
Great video and product Matt! Thanks for making it.
I’ve installed this product in 2 separate basements … 1 poured wall and 1 block wall. Easy to install … excellent product.
I love this product, thanks for bringing it to our attention.
With the application specific to shipping containers and their fitting over the corregations on the walls and ceilings, seems to me that this product should be molded to fit ag panels interiors for the ever popular barndo and metal bldg structure. It would completely rid the self building homeowner of the need to hire a spray foam guy and it would reduce some of that cost, like the interior 2x4 or 2x6 stud framingas well.
Cargo containers have a standard shape. With sheet metal manufacturers their profiles vary. Also the profile is not as high with most sheet metals so the benefit of form fitting is not as great. We sell ICF and EPS, quite a bit of 4x8 EPS sheets for post and beam construction, you can get them custom thickness, 5.5" is common.
Love it! Been using insofast for my basement remodels for years!
It's always been at a ridiculous price point. way to high for a cheap product to manufacture.
@@ronnymcdonald2543 It's about the price of traditional framing/insulation costs and less labor/better insulation, saves space.
@@Ralith09 Ummm you still need framing / sheeting or block work or a container so that's not correct, and yes i like the product and the speed at which it can be installed - BUT it has always been very expensive for what it is and they used to refuse bulk discounts ... I've looked at this product for many years and Ive never been interested as the company was so greedy on price point ... I can buy closed cell sheets for way less and install them with glued 2by2 inserts on center's at way cheaper cost.
@ronnymcdonald2543 Sure, you need something to glue it to, can't build a house out of just foam... but you missed half the benefits.
@@ronnymcdonald2543, patents last only seven years, so some company will eventually copy, manufacture & sell it for much cheaper...
Brilliant, brilliant product. In a world of labor shortages and inflation, this product will win. Less material, less labor
Ed brings tremendous knowledge and lesser salemanship. Nice combo!!!
:)
Love the show. Love the product
You nailed it, guys. It's all about comfort but science is still rolled up into that word. Bottom line is that climate control systems won't have to work as hard to maintain that comfortable temp/humidity. Highly insulated and air tight = a very peaceful and comfortable home (caveat - filtered-recycled-air ventilation system is a must though).
So, wondering if it were made out of XPS (for below-grade applications), would it be more superior?
Great video... informative, innovative and interesting!
I just redid my house. 2nd story additon. I used 2 layers of 1" xps with 1x3 battens and flatlok screws.
Foam was roughly 2500
Screws were 1200
Battens were 500
Tape for seams was 200
Roughly 3400k
I installed it and it took a long long time.
This stuff would have been 6500.
Honestly, looking back, i think i would have paid the extra money for this for many reasons. Sure its quite expensive, however, the installation of 2 layers of foam was a huge pain when i was up on the ladders. I did almost all of the remodel myself.
I think this is over priced, however, its probably worth that extra money.
Thanks for the price comparison. The $100-ish for 40 sf, 125% of a 4x8 sheet, is a lot more than 25% more than sheet foam.
It is probably worth it to have the integral studs for a basement or container building, but hard to justify the cost in other scenarios.
Scott True needs to be introduced to this product. See what his genius mind can come up with.
Tag him?? We want to know what Scott thinks!!
Hmm this is a good start to a great exterior roof insulation product, which is what it need
Yes, please! I think such a system would have made the roofers we hired on board for exterior insulation, while they balked at doing it when they couldn't find a system that would be easy enough to install.
@@dosadoodleI was thinking the same, however with limited penetrations, you could probably find more cist effective alternatives. I am definitely looking for lie porch roof solutions that don't include double sheathing. Ideas?
AMVIC makes similar product called ENVIROSTRAP at 2 5/8" or 3 .5" thick and it comes in 2 types, wood stud or plastic in both a flush version and a 1/2" proud version for rainscreen air gap R10 or11 to R-14-15. So if you have a 2x6 frame and add exterior EPS you will exceed next code which will be R-32 in a few years. I like those window flashings are available from Ed
I like how Ed just stood there like a lump, staring off camera during the show introduction, but then turned out to be personable and enthusiastic from the first question. 👍
Haha, we love Ed😂! His engineer mind is usually moving at hyperspeed-probably thinking about what product needs to be invented next!
Big fan! Used it in a basement and was a great solution.
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Thank you, Matt, for this information. Good work.
Andrew J Myers👽
My daughter & I used Insofast (found on TOH) to convert her only 10' w CMU garage - inches counted! - to an Airbnb studio ~4yrs ago. Insofast contributed to meeting City energy specs & we put up ourselves over 2 part'l days, simple. It's conditioned w/a Pioneer mini split & renters r comfy & happy. Will choose again over any other insulation.
nice system and presentation
Excellent.
Thank you for this video. I am planning to do a post and frame build where I think this approach might be ideal.
Keep us posted!!
2" T&G "roof decking" over the outside of a timber frame covered with house wrap and InSoFast panels fastened to the T&G decking is a very beautiful, cost-effective application.
Matt, would love to see you use this as exterior insulation in Texas.
EXCITING!! Might be something I can use on my place!! I'll reach out! THANK YOU!
What about sound reduction, seems like it would help!
definitely helps!
This is a legitimately fantastic product. We are building an ICF home (no regrets, love it), but this product is definitely going on the next home we build.
Keep us posted when you do! We'd love to follow along with the build process!
This has me rethinking my ICF plans. Looks like all the benefits with less of the Cons.
Do you agree? 1 time concrete, easier to remodel, probably cheaper or at least easier for door and window bucks....
@Ivebeenaroundyouknow honestly the ICF was really easy. This insofast is brilliant. I'll be looking into this for my remodels at work, basement details, etc. I would like to do a cost breakdown of using this on the exterior of a traditionally framed wall vs. my ICF. Are you building an ICF home soon?
@@Mountainview-mesa yes in San Diego County. I have not committed to ICF yet because of increased rebar and engineering costs. I am getting to a point where I am going to have to select a construction method so I can get my plans drawn. Struggling to pull the trigger.
Where is your build AZ?
@Ivebeenaroundyouknow Colorado. We have a few videos up if you are interested (sorry for the self-promotion 🤦♂️). We are getting stucco on and the roof insulation right now. I would definitely build with ICF again, but I would do things a lot differently as well.
It's not only energy efficiency. Having high r-values on walls is creating comfort by itself. But you have to manage humidity and air ventilation precisely.
Very innovative and well thought out product! Not cheap, but looks great! I have a stone foundation and was hoping to see a way to use this product on those irregular surfaces in my basement, but I'm not seeing a simple approach.
Wow Matt,
Ed's invention is Brilliant! I need it on my house build! I love how it's used with zip system. It looks tradesmen friendly too, I think.
Hey Matt, you need Ed Scherre on one side of you and Steve Baczek on the other... and no one on any job site, or pub, will mess with you! Hahaha!
Ed (@insofast-continuous-insulation), my only worry, being foam is how it does, or does not, resist bugs & termites. Is there a mitigation plan for termite regions?
Thx,
Eric
I am a big fan, we have been installing InSoFast for 16 years. If you can't have ICF, this is the next best thing.
Very interesting. Couple questions.
1. Could you use it below concrete as a sub slab insulation? Then run radiant heating above it and then poor over. Could even put a strip along the lower wall edge to make it continuous.
2. Could you just glue to zip on exterior? This would eliminate penetrations and the ram bridging.
In general, PL is my go-to premium sealant company
Same.
@@insofast-continuous-insulation I love your products, your shipping container insulation system is bad to the bone! I've worked at many architecture offices in my life and we did about 14 projects in modular containers and your system is the most thoughtful and well-thought-out genius idea I've ever seen.
@@insofast-continuous-insulation I'm actually excited to do another container project after seeing your product line! Before I was like, ugggh when people asked about container projects. WE got excited when SuperTherm paint was supposedly invented, just to find out it was a scam. Not sure you followed that fiasco...but it was a letdown.
😅Not the SuperTherm!!! But this is awesome. Thanks for the good word. Let's team up on your next project! We'd love to hear your backstory and transition to using InSoFast@@matthodel946
I have always trusted filler foam to install a door or window frame without screws.. Just wedge the frame into it's best position ..go around with the foam and remove wedges when dry. I have been met with incedulity by other Builders who just do not understand the full bonding strength of Foam adhesion compared to just using the usual screw frame fixings. I have never seen any comparison official testing but if its out there, I would love to see it. Im in the UK so may not be suitable for other Countries.
Looking forward to seeing a video of the Hercuwall system
Could the 3" exterior foam product be installed horizontally to allow for the installation of vertical cladding?
I am installing an open back metal cladding, so I don't have the need for a rain screen as it's built into the cladding..
Ever use in attic as insulation for house? House with trusses? Ability to move to change wiring in attic etc. Not looking to store things in attic. But occasionally need to move around.
any concerns about plastic studs in a cold climate?
if i ever did a shipping container on a budget, i'd definitely use the in-so-fast system
Thermal bridging in the floor is something you can't eliminate. Containers are more expensive and are sub standard performance compared to a standard build.
The glue adhesive strength is impressive, but does it become brittle with age after many years or decades with separation issues from the plastic or concrete wall ?
Have they ever had any callbacks after many years with the adhesive separating from the concrete wall ?
( I am not concerned about it separating to much from the plastic dovetailed curves. )
What happens when it comes in contact with water or other chemicals ?
Does INSOFAST have a method of fashioning these panels by a physical metal fasoner to a shipping container wall by drilling a hole ?
Furring out a basement bedroom right now and this would be cool however, I found my walls have around 1/2" of irregularity in them. I went with 2x4's so I could get a nice and straight wall.
Looks like a great system if you want to get about half the insulation of ICF. I would bet the cost to build even a 2x4 wall with Zip sheathing then go all the way around the house again with the insulation is nearly the cost of ICF without all the other benefits, thermal mass, fire proof, tornado proof, sound deadening, smaller HVAC, lower insurance rates etc.
I agree. I have been planning an ICF build, however increased soil engineering seismic requirements and reduced remodeling flexibility are considerations.
Might be a good solution for pier and beam style under the house
This will work very well where seismic sheathing is needed. My one concern is carpenter ant colonization within the foam. I've had some bead board stored in a shed become riddled by carpenter ants where I am located. I imagine that encapsulation might prevent this. Would the addition of something like borate to the foam be the answer? Please advise.
I installed in-so-fast years ago. It was a nightmare. If you have uneven wall, which is probably majority of America, this thing does not go on well. Also the adhesive has to be able to bond to both foam and concrete. Years ago the options for adhesives weren’t that great so maybe that’s changed. The real nightmare came with the plastic strips. They have almost no holding power. Drywall Screws would strip out easily and it wasn’t possible to shoot nails into concrete with them, so basically the whole point of avoiding attaching a frame or wood strips was defeated. Sometimes the simpler solution is the best solution. I would go with rigid foam sheets and either frame outside of them with 2x3 or attach wood strips if your walls are straight.
Sounds like things have changed significantly since your experience. They demonstrated all your scenarios with successful solutions.
Matt, what is a good recommendation for insulation for a stick framed barndo w/ metal roof and siding in oklahoma?
Could this be used to insulate and build out a metal pole barn?
Is this system cheaper than an icf wall?
Cinder block with insofast cheaper?
I'm interested!!
How do you trim out windows with this exterior insulation? The windows will be recessed.
Could this be used in the south (SC) for crawl space cinder block wall insulating before installing vapor barrier?
Very nice! Two questions 1. Off gassing, 2. Fire ? My experience with Styrofoam, which burns and drips black sticky fire balls.
great question, hope they can address this...checked the website and found no reference to fire especially
There are 2 foams : EPS is expanded Polystyrene beads and XPS which is extruded Polystyrene (Styrofoam)..
Expanded is most common.. used as packaging for TV's etc and what is used by Insofast as it is expanded from small beads to larger with steam..
This is probably how the plastic 'Studs' become encapsulated in the boards.
I assume the perforations in the 'stud' are to minimise cold bridging. neat..
In the video he had onstructions but the panels were precut so he didn't waist time cutting anything. They also don't tell you to use a heavy duty gun for the glue. The first one we bought, we had to use two hands to put on glue. We got four sheets up in one DAY . After we fixed ( got a cast, heavy duty, gun ) we did much better.
Other then that it's a good product.
Couple comments. Don’t use cold glue. Also upgrade to PL Premium as it guns so much better. Lastly, get a good gun like the Tajima
Always helps to heat up the glue a bit.
would this work well for cheap metal sheds? or what other alternatives are there for those?
Very impressive. Being able to use standard screws will save a pile of money, and the labor saving is great with studs and insulation going up all at once. Thanks Matt.
Hi Matt, my basement wall has a bunch of concrete knots from tie rods, and some of them are 1 inch thick and sticks out, so the wall is not going to be flat. What’s the best way to flatten the basement wall?
It is vapour permeable, so needs a good vapour barrier on the inside, especially if used in a basement. No mention of interior cladding
If one were to lay the InSoFast panels across 16" on center floor joists, then attach 1/2" plywood on top, would it be strong enough to walk on?
If yes, would a floating installation (InSoFast not screwed to floor joists) or Screw down installation be better?
This seems pretty dope.
It's a shame they're not using graphite coated EPS for more R-value and a touch of flame resistance.
Excellent product. Could this be used over an attic floor to reclaim space? Typically, you would have to remove some blown-in insulation in my area. Essentially I'm asking could someone lay it on 2 x studs and add some osb on top of it.
I think you need to install OSB subflooring
You could achieve the same result at a fraction of the cost by just using sheet foam and OSB.
Denver has many older homes that are double and triple wythe masonry walls. The interior side of double wythe wall surfaces are cold and make rooms uncomfortable in winter months. We also have challenges with condensation and mold on these interior wall surfaces when its very cold. Would In So Fast be a good application to furr interior walls to increase energy efficiency of a double wythe wall? I have concerns with condensation collecting from dewpoint as it follows the condensation channels at the rear of the wall. How does this water from condensation find its way out of the system when used in an interior application? Usually, I would recommend to get the insulation layer to the outside of the building envelope, but these homes are classic Tudors and would look like crap to do a 3 coat traditional stucco or rainscreen system, it would completely change the style of the home. All ideas considered, thank you everyone.
I talked to Rocky Mountain Masonry Institute and they said that generally, it's bad practice to insulate the interior side of existing above-ground double wythe masonry walls. It goes back to Matt's old adage that you leave older homes detailed the way they're built or have a new set of problems. When you insulate double wythe from the interior side it can cause spalling and all freezing temperatures to reach deeper through this solid brick wall increasing the rate at which the brick and mortar will degregate. No easy fix for my clients who have sweating walls behind frames hung on wall surfaces in the winter months, and it causes black mold. So I need to hunt down the source of moisture.
Can you use this over a crawlspace (sitting on the wood subfloor) that would have no insulation betwixt the joists?
Ed is awesome.
Available in UK?
In the basement floor application was this being laid over compacted fill in lieu of concrete or on top of a poured concrete slab?
This is intended for over a conventional concrete slab.
@@buildshowMatt, so would that be an alternative to sub slab insulation, where now only a vapor barrier below would be needed?
Would this be appropriate for a Florida attic looking to decrease temps? Or are there better suited options?
Depending on cost . This may be a way to take a standard icf block to near / to passive? Crazy idea I know 😮
My kind of crazy!
😉😉😉
@@buildshow Hi Matt. I searched your channel and it looks like you haven’t reviewed SCIP (Structural Insulated Concrete Panels) yet. They are the reverse of ISF construction so no interior or exterior cladding needs to be used from what I have seen. It is hard to believe that the system could be so simple so I was hoping you would investigate to see if there was any downside.
how does it compare with 2” close cell spray foam in price?
Probably the same or more expensive, I looked at this product for a decade and they always had it price high even though it's a cheap product to produce at mass.
Only thing they are missing is inside/outside corner pieces.
hmmmm🤔 gets us thinking...
@insofast-continuous-insulation more specifically exterior outside corner to attach facade corner pieces and give a better seal on corners. If you could connect the exterior plastic together in a 4 or 5" 90 that should allow attachment of whatever type of corner trim I want.
Should make the flashing plastic also. 🤔
Matt, am I seeing things or is the "build" neon held up by 2 or 3 flimsy plastic ties? Also, it's not level. The beam from which it's suspended is level, or appears to be level in reference to the camera angle, but the sign isn't. Just frank feedback from a frequent viewer...
When applying to exterior, how would installation of windows happen
The cabinet failed, but the stud and adhesive never did!! WHOA! Thats crazy!
:)
ok one big question i didn't hear an answer to, also not finding on their website, can this be used below grade? exterior foundation insulation...
I’m wondering if it squeaks when used under a subfloor on concrete
makes shipping containers so much easier and ++ livable :)
Love to hear the feedback!
Can this be used in my attic? I live in the south.
This is a good product that should be used more.
If they would do a polyiso product you could leave it exposed.
Will this adhere to concrete foundation? And then be able to attach stone veneer over the top?
Depends on how the stone veneer would be attached. If mortared, then you would probably need to attach a metal screen before the stone to give the mortar something to hold onto. The screw on types should be able to be attached directly.
wouldn't protective flashing on the bottom catch any water or moisture that made its way behind the insofast ?
Great thinking! Definitely need to be cautious with that. Don’t tape or seal it to the wall OR use a bug screen as the protection at the bottom.
Hey Matt, would you be able to do an episode on using sheep's wool for home insulation? I came across it as a potential, environmentally-friendly option through vendors like Havelock Wool, but I'm wondering how useful and usable it actually is. Is it safe to use? Can it be used in a way that will meet most code requirements for fire retardation and R-values? Is it durable enough? I figure you've been in the business so long, you must have come across a home builder or two in your career who wanted to use it. Havelock Wool makes some impressive claims about the performance of its product and I know I'd get an honest assessment from you.
Since when do sheep do good for the environment