Artimus hasn’t always been -the brightest star in the galaxy. -The sharpest tool in the shed. -elevator don’t go to the top -not playing with a full deck
Maybe as technology evolves more can be saved on it. I’ve been to Sanford Florida on business over the years. The street where I was is named Aero Lane if I recall right. From what I remember it goes from some decent places and homes to where there are old tires, old cars and every washing machine that the person owned on the front lawn. LOL. What year would that have been from? It looks like sometime in the early 90s based on the clothing and some of the photos that you shot.
Aero Lane is in the industrial area of Sanford. I lived about 7 miles South of there for years in Maitland/Longwood area. I know that area well. I was living in Longwood when I drove up to Crescent Beach to find this tape on Artimus' front porch for decorations. The year Allen Woody, Artimus, and Sammy Stafford played together was around 1993. The question I have is, does Larry Goad even still have this tape? And is it playable?
@@Cagey-1 That's a good question. If he can be tracked down, maybe we'll have our answer. Yes, it was an industrial area. The company that I used to go to there is gone, and the owner works for another organization in Winter Park which I go to for work a few times a year to perform inspections.
@@googleusergp Give me a shout next time you are in Florida. Presently I am in Jacksonville but plan on going back down to central Florida in future. I still have a house in Fern Park right next to Winter Park. I take my boat and fish in Winter Park all the time. I put boat into Lake Virginia by Rollins College. I fish the entire chain of lakes there - 6 lakes in all. And others around the area.
@@Cagey-1 Thanks. I'm usually in and out in a few days on business trips down there. I do vehicle inspections, so I'm generally working all day from early morning through late afternoon. I usually come in on a Monday, and we're out by Thursday late morning. Tight schedule. We usually hit High Tide Harry's on Semoran Blvd for dinner one night. I'm not much of a seafood guy so it's a grilled chicken salad for me. LOL. Another night we hit Osprey in Orlando on another night. I don't make the travel arrangements, so sometimes the schedule is tighter than others. The travel varies to different US locations depending on where the inspections need to be done. I was supposed to go down in October, but it's possibly going to be November at this point. I think Mark and Joe need to do a livestream where we can all banter our opinions and ideas/knowledge. I "elected" you, but told Mark and Joe that only if you wanted to do so, you'd be a great live guest. I enjoyed the phone call on the last episode.
@@Cagey-1 Any word on "Broadneck Mark"? Has he been released from the hospital and on the mend? I haven't seen anything from that channel in over a month, so I'm hoping he's doing OK.
Yes he did. I got to hear it the very first day I met Leon. He included it into his show with the band Vision. It was the Leon testimony time. I remember it well.
@@Cagey-1 I agree, it would be interesting to hear some of these stories. I told the sales manager at the company in Winter Park that I go to a few times a year for work about you and he mentioned that at one time he was on the fire department/rescue squad for Altamonte Springs, FL. Then it clicked. That's where the "Jacksonville 5+" had the record signing a few days before the plane crash in 1977 at the mall.
@@chipcruey7757 Leon stood on stage in the cafeteria of Orange Park High School on the first day I met him and Billy and Rocco and Tim Smith, and he shared some details of surviving the plane crash. They called it the Leon testimonial part of the show which gave everyone else a break while Leon talked to the audience. Leon said that his guts were ripped out in the plane crash and when they loaded him into the ambulance for ride to the hospital that they had 4 blood transfusions giving him blood as his own blood flowed out of him as fast as they could pump it into him. He said on the way to the hospital blood was flowing out the rear door of the ambulance. Leon said as he laid on the table in the emergency room he had an out of body experience. Leon said he technically died 3 times and was brought back each time. He said they would work on him and he would die and they would give up on him and he would twitch or move a foot and they would come back to work on him some more. Leon would not give up. He said as they worked on him and he laid there dying and reviving and dying again, that he floated out of his body and rose slowly above them working on him and he said he could look down on them working on him. At some point Leon said he recalled rising up higher and now in the sky and clouds around him. And he said he was back to back with Duane Allman who said over his shoulder to Leon joining him in this out of body experience, that he and Duane were both looking down on the living and Leon said Duane Allman told him "They do not know where the top really is." I assume meaning only in death and freedom from suffering and pain of life was reaching the top, but that is my own interpretation. After this, Leon was revived for the last time and I assume returned to his body to try and recover from this plane crash. I met Leon in 1985, and you could see it in his eyes. Lights on, but was anyone home? It is as if Leon never came back to this world and did not want to. He suffered for the rest of his life from his plane crash injuries. He developed incontinence which followed him right onto the stages of the world. And he sought out the best orthopedic surgeons to put his left arm back together, but he was never able to rotate it around enough to play bass normally and had to add an extension to some guitars and play them almost vertically because his left arm could no longer rotate enough to play the instruments normally.
@@googleusergp Yep. October 17, 1977. The band was staying in hotels next to i-4 in Lakeland, and took two black limos right up i-4 to Altamonte Springs mall. One thing fans may not be aware of, but that location at the mall was 1 block from old BJ Studios where band members recorded on a regular basis. The reason for this choice of location revolved around Skynyrd's former manager Pat Armstrong who managed numerous bands from his offices in Altamonte Springs, Longwood area of Florda. Artists like Molly Hatchet, Stranger, Pat Travers, Savoy Brown, Foghat and others. Pat Armstrong was the one involved with BJ Studios on Douglas Ave just across i-4 from the Altamonte Springs mall. This studio eventually turned into Full Sail school and studios. It started there on Douglas Ave. Greg Rike also had a studio on the same road. Right after the plane crash some of the Skynyrd survivors first recorded with Leo LaBranche at El Paso, but the second project after the plane crash was the Alias Contraband album with Dorman Cogburn of Jacksonville who recorded his one and only album at the BJ Studios. Years later I would go in that same studio with Artimus Pyle and his band APB Fenwicks who recorded their demos and first album project there. So when Skynyrd arrived at the Altamonte Springs mall October 17, 1977, that area of Florida had a much deeper connection to Skynyrd than many today are even aware of. Another connection was to Rusty Day who moved into the Longwood area just north of Altamonte Springs. In fact, where Rusty Day rented his house off Markham Woods road was on the north end of Douglas ave. where the recordings studios were located. Rusty was trying to put a new Cactus band back together when he was murdered inside his house there. Rusty and Steve Gaines were in bands together before Steve joined Skynyrd. The offices of Pat Armstrong band management was located on state road 434 about one mile east of where Douglas ave and Markham Woods road intersected with 434 just west of i-4. It was a large growing music scene based right there and only those in it knew about it.
THANX CAGEY,...your pad belongs in the Smithsonian,...along with the knowledge in your head. thanx for sharing, you are always generous. dave in NC🙂🙂
Thank you for sharing this! I always enjoy your videos and learning Skynyrd related info that I haven't heard before.
I saw Artemis last night in Warrenton Mo.
Great show! 77 years old and still playing hard. They did 1hr and 45min.
0:58
Wow Ronnie, Steve & Cassie with about 72 hours left. That’s tough
Like to hear it
Artimus hasn’t always been
-the brightest star in the galaxy.
-The sharpest tool in the shed.
-elevator don’t go to the top
-not playing with a full deck
Maybe as technology evolves more can be saved on it. I’ve been to Sanford Florida on business over the years. The street where I was is named Aero Lane if I recall right. From what I remember it goes from some decent places and homes to where there are old tires, old cars and every washing machine that the person owned on the front lawn. LOL.
What year would that have been from? It looks like sometime in the early 90s based on the clothing and some of the photos that you shot.
Aero Lane is in the industrial area of Sanford. I lived about 7 miles South of there for years in Maitland/Longwood area. I know that area well. I was living in Longwood when I drove up to Crescent Beach to find this tape on Artimus' front porch for decorations.
The year Allen Woody, Artimus, and Sammy Stafford played together was around 1993.
The question I have is, does Larry Goad even still have this tape? And is it playable?
@@Cagey-1 That's a good question. If he can be tracked down, maybe we'll have our answer.
Yes, it was an industrial area. The company that I used to go to there is gone, and the owner works for another organization in Winter Park which I go to for work a few times a year to perform inspections.
@@googleusergp Give me a shout next time you are in Florida. Presently I am in Jacksonville but plan on going back down to central Florida in future. I still have a house in Fern Park right next to Winter Park. I take my boat and fish in Winter Park all the time. I put boat into Lake Virginia by Rollins College. I fish the entire chain of lakes there - 6 lakes in all. And others around the area.
@@Cagey-1 Thanks. I'm usually in and out in a few days on business trips down there. I do vehicle inspections, so I'm generally working all day from early morning through late afternoon. I usually come in on a Monday, and we're out by Thursday late morning. Tight schedule. We usually hit High Tide Harry's on Semoran Blvd for dinner one night. I'm not much of a seafood guy so it's a grilled chicken salad for me. LOL. Another night we hit Osprey in Orlando on another night.
I don't make the travel arrangements, so sometimes the schedule is tighter than others. The travel varies to different US locations depending on where the inspections need to be done.
I was supposed to go down in October, but it's possibly going to be November at this point. I think Mark and Joe need to do a livestream where we can all banter our opinions and ideas/knowledge. I "elected" you, but told Mark and Joe that only if you wanted to do so, you'd be a great live guest. I enjoyed the phone call on the last episode.
@@Cagey-1 Any word on "Broadneck Mark"? Has he been released from the hospital and on the mend? I haven't seen anything from that channel in over a month, so I'm hoping he's doing OK.
Hey Cagey, Did Leon ever talk to you about what he saw while he was out-dying and being brought back?
Yes he did. I got to hear it the very first day I met Leon. He included it into his show with the band Vision. It was the Leon testimony time. I remember it well.
@@Cagey-1 any chance you could share some of that story?
Either way, I appreciate your time!
@@Cagey-1 I agree, it would be interesting to hear some of these stories. I told the sales manager at the company in Winter Park that I go to a few times a year for work about you and he mentioned that at one time he was on the fire department/rescue squad for Altamonte Springs, FL. Then it clicked. That's where the "Jacksonville 5+" had the record signing a few days before the plane crash in 1977 at the mall.
@@chipcruey7757 Leon stood on stage in the cafeteria of Orange Park High School on the first day I met him and Billy and Rocco and Tim Smith, and he shared some details of surviving the plane crash. They called it the Leon testimonial part of the show which gave everyone else a break while Leon talked to the audience.
Leon said that his guts were ripped out in the plane crash and when they loaded him into the ambulance for ride to the hospital that they had 4 blood transfusions giving him blood as his own blood flowed out of him as fast as they could pump it into him. He said on the way to the hospital blood was flowing out the rear door of the ambulance.
Leon said as he laid on the table in the emergency room he had an out of body experience. Leon said he technically died 3 times and was brought back each time. He said they would work on him and he would die and they would give up on him and he would twitch or move a foot and they would come back to work on him some more. Leon would not give up.
He said as they worked on him and he laid there dying and reviving and dying again, that he floated out of his body and rose slowly above them working on him and he said he could look down on them working on him. At some point Leon said he recalled rising up higher and now in the sky and clouds around him. And he said he was back to back with Duane Allman who said over his shoulder to Leon joining him in this out of body experience, that he and Duane were both looking down on the living and Leon said Duane Allman told him "They do not know where the top really is." I assume meaning only in death and freedom from suffering and pain of life was reaching the top, but that is my own interpretation.
After this, Leon was revived for the last time and I assume returned to his body to try and recover from this plane crash.
I met Leon in 1985, and you could see it in his eyes. Lights on, but was anyone home? It is as if Leon never came back to this world and did not want to.
He suffered for the rest of his life from his plane crash injuries. He developed incontinence which followed him right onto the stages of the world. And he sought out the best orthopedic surgeons to put his left arm back together, but he was never able to rotate it around enough to play bass normally and had to add an extension to some guitars and play them almost vertically because his left arm could no longer rotate enough to play the instruments normally.
@@googleusergp Yep. October 17, 1977. The band was staying in hotels next to i-4 in Lakeland, and took two black limos right up i-4 to Altamonte Springs mall.
One thing fans may not be aware of, but that location at the mall was 1 block from old BJ Studios where band members recorded on a regular basis. The reason for this choice of location revolved around Skynyrd's former manager Pat Armstrong who managed numerous bands from his offices in Altamonte Springs, Longwood area of Florda. Artists like Molly Hatchet, Stranger, Pat Travers, Savoy Brown, Foghat and others.
Pat Armstrong was the one involved with BJ Studios on Douglas Ave just across i-4 from the Altamonte Springs mall. This studio eventually turned into Full Sail school and studios. It started there on Douglas Ave. Greg Rike also had a studio on the same road.
Right after the plane crash some of the Skynyrd survivors first recorded with Leo LaBranche at El Paso, but the second project after the plane crash was the Alias Contraband album with Dorman Cogburn of Jacksonville who recorded his one and only album at the BJ Studios. Years later I would go in that same studio with Artimus Pyle and his band APB Fenwicks who recorded their demos and first album project there.
So when Skynyrd arrived at the Altamonte Springs mall October 17, 1977, that area of Florida had a much deeper connection to Skynyrd than many today are even aware of.
Another connection was to Rusty Day who moved into the Longwood area just north of Altamonte Springs. In fact, where Rusty Day rented his house off Markham Woods road was on the north end of Douglas ave. where the recordings studios were located. Rusty was trying to put a new Cactus band back together when he was murdered inside his house there. Rusty and Steve Gaines were in bands together before Steve joined Skynyrd. The offices of Pat Armstrong band management was located on state road 434 about one mile east of where Douglas ave and Markham Woods road intersected with 434 just west of i-4. It was a large growing music scene based right there and only those in it knew about it.