Gary Tells Truth Here, Rickey NOT An Original Band Member
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- Lynyrd Skynyrd Shorts Episode 33 Rickey Medlocke and the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Yes or NO?
There is only one correct answer. NO! And the reasons are clear. First of all the RRHF only considers people who had an active part in making said artist famous. Key word- an ACTIVE part in making the artist famous. So ask the question, DID Rickey have any part in making Lynyrd Skynyrd famous? The answer is hell no because the world never heard anything Rickey ever did or recorded with Lynyrd Skynyrd until 1978 a year after Skynyrd was already dead and gone. First and Last album was released in 1978 and that was the first time any fans ever heard Rickey in any Skynyrd songs. Rickey was NEVER heard on a Skynyrd record from 1970 to their death in 1977. Rickey Medlocke had NO Part in making that band famous. And this is an extremely important part of this especially for the RRHF. Peter Frampton is to be inducted and only Peter Frampton. The band members who made him famous on Frampton Comes Alive will NOT be included! Only Peter Frampton. So in this same line of reasoning is part of why Rickey cannot be included with Skynyrd. Rickey was NOT even an original band member as well! And we know this because Gary Rossington made it clear in this video: • Gary Tells Truth Here,... . Gary is asked point blank who are original band members and he skips Rickey standing right there. This is truth. But before Gary died he created a video where he lied about Rickey's involvement: • Gary Rossington on Ric... . Jakson Spires said Ronnie Van Zant did NOT call for Rickey to join the band. Ronnie called for Jakson to join band in Muscle Shoals on drums and Rickey intercepted that call and did not tell Jakson about it and instead had Jakson teach Rickey drums and drum parts he would need to know for several weeks before Rickey ran out to Muscle Shoals in place of Jakson by way of fraud and deception. Ronnie would later on ask Jakson angrily why he did not come and Jakson told Ronnie he had no idea he had even called. Rickey deceived everyone once again for pure selfishness. Now, when Rickey went to Muscle Shoals to record with pre-Skynyrd, Rickey was NEVER a band member! He was simply a hired employee. How do we know this for a fact? Because if you look inside of the MCA Records Box Set, in the paper catalog or pamphlet that comes with the Box Set MCA Records clearly laid out all of Lynyrd Skynyrd's official band member incarnations as defined LEGALLY by signed contracts. MCA Records set the record straight by law on I think 7 band incarnations by legal contracts. And Rickey Medlocke is not listed in any of the official bands of Lynyrd Skynyrd. Not a one. And because Rickey was NEVER an original band member, and because no one ever heard anything from Rickey until 1978 and having no part in making Skynyrd famous, this is why Rickey was not included in the RRHF induction. Because he did not belong there legally and officially. In fact, Rickey Medlocke was told to stay away from the RRHF induction ceremony and he was NOT even allowed to attend nor welcome there. Another way we know Rickey was NEVER even a band member is clearly printed on Blackfoot's Flying High album where it clearly says "Rickey was a member of the band that went on to BECOME Lynyrd Skynyrd" but was NOT Lynyrd Skynyrd when Rickey was an employee. Rickey's involvement was turned INTO Lynyrd Skynyrd in 1978 only after Skynyrd was dead and gone. But, in the years since, and just before Gary Rossington died, Gary Rossington created a video and in it Gary Rossington lied about calling Rickey and lied about Rickey being an original band member flipping on his previous stance as shown in previous video above because Gary wanted Rickey to provide his fake Skinnerd tribute band with some kind of legitimacy once Gary died. Gary knew he was not going to live long when he made that lie for a video. He did it to put money into his family's pockets after he was dead and gone. He did it to literally steal money from fans by way of lying and fraud so his family could continue to rape the name of Lynyrd Skynyrd once he was dead and gone exactly how we see it today. Both Gary Rossington and Rickey Medlocke are liars and frauds for selfish greed and self grandeur. It is a dam shame this is what we are all left with along with an arrogant pompous lying fraud named Rickey Medlocke who today actually thinks and believes and acts as if he made Skynyrd famous and has a right to be in the RRHF along with those who actually did make Skynyrd famous. The RRHF even excluded a real original band member Larry Junstrum because he was not around to make Skynyrd famous- and yet he was included in MCA's list of official Skynyrd bands, but still excluded from RRHF. Rickey is a revisionist today. As was Gary Rossington. Please compare this video with the one above: • Gary Rossington on Ric... . Pure lies.
Allen Collins was Lynyrd Skynyrd.
a great interview RIP to half of these guys Billy Powell, Huey , Leon , Gary I might’ve missed somebody. I don’t know.
Ol' Rotgut Life here....this tour..the "twenty" tour, when they stopped in Chattanooga, myself, Hughie, and Leon got super blasted and almost kicked out of the hotel. Good times Man. other than Gary, Leon, and Billy there's no other original band member standing in that group. Slickey Codlock was a fill in back then same as he is now. All I can say is finding kg is like finding f'n Waldo!!! Bout damn time y'all got here!! Sincerely, always standing with you in the fight to keep the real Skynyrd history sacred.
LONG LIVE THE BYRD
I love Rickey and I’m grateful he’s in the band. I know it’s hard when musicians we really like pass away. If you don’t like the band now that’s cool just don’t go to shows or buy new stuff.
Rickey is a good guitar player and a good singer. And does it with one lung. I’m happy I got to see them with Johnny, Rickey, and Gary. They put on a great show when I saw them quite a few years ago.
I love FACTS! We all know that Ronnie did not view Rickey as an original member. I am not even sure that Ronnie liked him! If he was such hot shit, he could've rejoined when either Bob or Ed left the band. Right? But I am thinking that Ronnie never even called him or thought about him....
Leon and Allen and other band members all said the same story about Rickey that Ronnie himself said to his Skynyrd band members that "This band is not big enough for the both of us and its MY band!" In other words, Ronnie said Skynyrd was not big enough for him and Rickey's ego to be in, and since it was Ronnie's band, that meant Rickey had to go. Bye! See ya! Don't let the door hit ya in ass on the way out! Rickey is one of those people who wants to take it all over and control it his way or the highway. Ronnie was right about him as were all the others and his original BlackFoot band members as well! All said the same thing about Rickey. All ego. All fluff. Not much else. I hope he never sees an induction into the halls of fame. Those are for the greats! Not the wannabes who can't tell the truth or write a decent song to save his life.
I'm impressed so many people know the thoughts of dead men.
@@DIESEL0759 We can remember and recall their words they said in life. So glad you have the ability to determine things that aren't so.
You must have been real close to them to know what they are thinking. Tell me, how long have you known them?
@@DIESEL0759 About 39 years.
Saw them in tampa few weeks ago in tampa and all I can say is Ricky played the hell out of that guitar with pride and respect. It was at bush gardens and most people no about the band lineup and a lot of people don't even care it was fun and a great show. Look up skynard bush gardens
..hell yeah
If you never heard of Blackfoot say what?
Thank you for that! Blackfoot smoked in the day!
Another video has been found where Rickey Medlocke is again snubbed while standing right there as band members of Lynyrd Skynyrd are asked who is original and Rickey Medlocke standing right there is once again snubbed and NOT considered as an original band member further proving that the video Gary Rossington made near end of his life was a complete lie and fraud he created to try and give Rickey some legitimacy to carry on Skynyrd after Gary Rossington the second to the last remaining band member of pre 1977 Skynyrd died. Only, its not working for fans few of whom consider Rickey Medlocke an original band member. Band employee yes, but NOT a band member as MCA Records box set makes clear as well as does the RRHF. We need this context and clarification because with it we can all see right through Rickey's revisionist history of the band today where he fluffs himself up as an original who was wrongfully snubbed by Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame. With videos like this we can all see the truth through his and Gary's falsehoods. th-cam.com/video/hVHZQToZf6A/w-d-xo.html
To get a bit off topic first of all, I don't feel Lynyrd Skynyrd should have carried on as Lynyrd Skynyrd after Ronnie passed out of respect for both Ronnie and the legacy of the band. Thinking about it now maybe a name change like "Second Helping" would have been more fitting. I don't care if Johnny is Ronnie's brother. I personally don't care for his voice or feel he or anyone else had the right to stand in his place and continue on as Lynyrd Skynyrd. Both Ronnie and Allen were such a huge part of what made that band and I thought it was sad for it to continue as Lynyrd Skynyrd without them. Just my personal feelings. I'm not sure why either but I didn't seem to be okay with the appearance of Ricky in the band and was completely unaware of Allen Collins feelings until reading a post here from Cagey. For the time it happened I thought Hughie Thompson was a great addition. Great guitar player singer and song writer for the legendary Outlaw's and preferred his presence over Ricky's but I'm just a Skynyrd fan sharing my feelings. ✌️
Great comment. I agree they never should have continued on after plane crash, but the early assembly of the 1987 tribute band was to raise money for Allen Collins medical expenses from the car crash that paralyzed him. It was only to be 10 shows, then expanded to 30 and then never ending. And keep in mind Johnny was borrowed from his band and supposed to return to his band so they could continue and further their careers as well. The tribute band paid the JVZ band to shut up and sit on the sidelines for two years 1987 to 1989 when they took a band vote to end tribute band and recreate an all new Skinnerd band and keep Johnny and put his band out on the streets along with Allen Collins and his father Larkin Collins who were sent home and told they were not needed. Some JVZ band members lost their wives, houses, and kids because Johnny ran off to sing in his dead brother's shoes claiming his dead brother's gold for himself while firing and destroying his own band permanently. Ronnie led his band to fame and fortune. Donnie led his band to fame and fortune. Johnny fired and destroyed his band for his own selfish fame and fortune. That said, Hughie Thomasson was only in Gary's Skinnerd for one reason... because Hughie ran Outlaws into the ground and failed to pay IRS tax debt so IRS shut him down and shut down the Outlaws as a band and business until Hughie paid his debt to IRS and that is why he was in Gary's Skinnerd band was so Skynyrd fans could pay off his debt. As soon as it was paid, Hughie quit and reopened the Outlaws. All fans needs to know at this time there was only one Outlaw- Hughie. He had run off all the other original band members and claimed Outlaws for himself alone. So it was not really the Outlaws any longer. It was in fact the Hughie Thomasson band only but with Outlaws name on it. When Hughie died peacefully in his lazy boy recliner with TV remote control in hand, he died so quietly no one even knew he was dead sitting there. And as soon as the other original Outlaws found out he was dead and gone, they hired lawyers and TOOK BACK their band the Outlaws from Hughie's widow and we now have a great new Outlaws band back together making great music. And this could only happen upon the death of the outlaw Outlaw Hughie Thomasson a control freak who destroyed the Outlaws to claim it all for himself and look how it ended. Thanks Hughie! Also be aware Rickey destroyed Blackfoot by first firing Charlie Hargrett because they said he looked too old and could not connect with younger crowd. So Charlie was first to go thanks to Rickey and his pencil pushing manager Al Nalli who has only worked really for Rickey alone at the expense of all the other original band members of BlackFoot he was supposed to represent as well and manage on their behalf's. And all original Blackfoot members say Rickey never met all his legal obligations to them concerning Blackfoot. Today Rickey thinks he can hire some mohawk looking teenage boys to be a band with him alone and call it Blackfoot all by himself. So in Gary Rossington's new Skinnerd band he had hired all the single men control freak cutthroat sharks who each destroyed their own bands. All 4 of them. Rickey, Hughie, Johnny and Gary. Each man used their band brand for one reason and one reason only- to make money. Music was nothing more than a product to sell to them. All about money. As much as each man could put in their pockets while cutting out everyone else for a career. And that's the truth. Rickey cut out all 3 original band members. Hughie cut out all original Outlaws. Johnny fired his entire band and kicked them to the curb so he can become a multi-millionaire singing someone else's music. And Gary Rossington FIRED all original Skynyrd band members so he alone could claim Lynyrd Skynyrd for his own which is why when Gary died his mansion sat on 80 acres of land with lakes and two dock houses and guest house and worth close to $13 million dollars. NO other Skynyrd band members ever came close to wealth like that. Thank Gary Haber, Gary Rossington's pencil pushing accountant who made it happen by literally taking money from everyone else and writing off all touring profits as touring expenses so there was NOTHING left for estates to receive. These bands were nothing more than cash cows for each of the 4 men who comprised Gary Rossington's Linnerd Skinnerd fake tribute band pretending to be something they simply cannot be.
@@Cagey-1 wow, from the Molly Hatchet "grave robbers" story to this, you certainly have educated me my friend. What an awful cut throat business the music business could be. Egos money and greed. I never knew that about Hughie and thought he was a good guy that was sad to learn. Back when Billy Jones was in the Outlaws they were quite a band. It's kinda sad to learn these things. Just my personal opinion but I never liked Johnny VZ and always had a weird gut feeling about Gary, never cared much for Ricky either. I remember seeing something posted once about Ronnie not trusting Gary I wish I could remember more about that now. But I also saw something about Gary saying he'd never play that shit again upon mention of getting the band back together during the Rossington Collins time which really bothered me. I couldn't believe that. Nothing Rossington Collins did came close to Skynyrd and although it was everyone but Artimus I didn't care for any of it.
@@aschule5684 I got some more bad news about Hughie Thomasson. I got to know a woman by the name of Beverly Frecker. She was Billy Jones biological mother. I used to visit her in her Tampa, Florida home and I have photos of those visits and more. Beverly was kind enough to graciously let me into her home and she showed me the bedroom her son Billy Jones had grown up in as a boy and teenager before joining the Outlaws. She had left it just as Billy had left it. When I went into that room after Billy died it was eerie and creepy to me see it exactly how Billy had walked away and left it with coins still on the top of dresser and his personal items, clothes, wall decorations. All exactly how it was when Billy lived there and died. It was his mother Beverly Frecker who told me a story about the how and why her son had died. She told me he was working in a local Tampa hospital as an intern wearing white uniform and cleaning up after surgeries and just gross hospital grunt work and Billy was not happy. He wanted to play guitar in his band the Outlaws again. Billy was drinking heavily and had a young son about 7 or 8 years old at the time. Bevery Frecker told me that Billy had gone to Hughie to REQUEST and ASK Hughie if he could rejoin the Outlaws once again, now Hughie's band exclusively. And Hughie said sure you can rejoin. But Billy Jones had one extra request and REQUIREMENT for Hughie in that Billy Jones told Hughie he would rejoin the Outlaws under the condition that he come back into the band on the same pay scale he went out on. Hughie Thomasson REFUSED this one request and requirement of Billy Jones. Within hours, Billy Jones stuck the barrel of a handgun into his mouth and blew his brains out committing suicide. He was unhappy with his life and all he wanted to do was play guitar again and paid fairly. Because Hughie Thomasson refused to pay Billy what he was worth, Billy gave up and killed himself. Billy Jone's own mother held it against Hughie for the rest of his life for being the cause and reason her son was dead. For depriving her son of his own band and his own music which Hughie made money off every show and kept it for himself. Beverly Frecker also said she thought another reason why Billy Jones killed himself was because Billy did not want his young son to see his father in the condition he was in and going down hard. Billy simply could not deal with it or handle it any longer. Hughie deprived Billy of the last bit of rope Billy was holding onto in this world. And Billy let go or it was snatched out of his hands and he had nothing left to hang onto. Hughie had taken it all. And this is the honest to god truth right straight from Beverly Frecker, Billy Jones biological mother who told me this my face just the two of us inside her house she raised Billy Jones in. She gave me a flower from her yard from a plant she and Billy had planted together on mother's day decades ago. I still have it hanging on the backside of a Billy Jones photo on the wall. Years later I took a photo to a Hughie Thomasson Outlaws performance of just him and some hired employees he called Outlaws and asked him to sign it. He tried to bite off Billy Jones head and he threw it down face first on the ground in dressing room and stomped on it and stormed out pissed off. I recovered that photo of Hughie and Billy playing guitar together in Outlaws. I still have it. And it still has Hughie's teeth marks over Billy Jones head. I've been offered $1000 for it but I won't sell it. God bless Billy Jones! He was the Outlaws!
@@aschule5684 I'll tell you another Outlaws story... When Hughie ran the Outlaws all by himself as the Hughie Thomasson band called the Outlaws, he hired bass player after bass player to tour with. No one can ever count how many bass players Hughie went through. One of them was a buddy of mine. A man named Buzzy Meekins. He also worked for Bobby Ingram in his Bobby Ingram band called Molly Hatchet today. Buzzy told me that Hughie would get some of the newly hired bass players to whip out their personal credit cards to help pay for touring costs with promises of paying them back. When said bass player stepped up to demand repayment, they were promptly fired and replaced and never paid back. And before Hughie died, he had recorded an album he wanted to release as an Outlaws legacy album. Hughie died before it could be released. And once the original band members who Hughie had run off one by one had ganged up on Hughie's widow after Hughie died to take back their band and Outlaws band and brand for themselves, it is now forever set in stone that Hughie's final album will NEVER be released as an Outlaws album or under the brand name of the Outlaws because that album DOES NOT represent the Outlaws or their legacy. It represents the one man who took over the Outlaws and drove everyone else out. Its HIS album. And none of the current and original band members of the Outlaws band will ever release Hughie's final album as an Outlaws album because that is NOT what it is. Now they are DEPRIVING Hughie of the Outlaws now and forever. Do unto others and it WILL be done unto you! Payback Hughie.
@@Cagey-1 wow😔 ya know it's kinda funny, in my last post with my new found knowledge about Hughie I almost asked if he had anything to do with Billy's death. That is just so sad. When I learned Billy took his life I was very sad. Someone has to be in some pretty bad pain to do something about it.
I'd like to think Hughie felt some guilt or remorse for his fallen brother but from what you've told me I certain that never happened. Good on you for bringing him that picture to sign. What a POS for doing that. You certainly have entwined with many great musicians and families of.
Not sure if you knew the Skynyrd boys from the beginning or not but did you get to know Ed King at all?
Ed's time in the band was my favorite and I kinda lost interest after that time. As talented as Steve was I didn't care much for the direction they were going in. But Ed seemed like good people and my favorite Skynyrd guitarist if I had to pick one.
I never heard of Ricky until they reassembled
Exactly. And fans need to know that Allen Collins sued Rickey for plagiarism. Allen Collins and Ronnie would not have wanted Rickey in this band and Allen would be FURIOUS to see that Gary hired Rickey to stand in his shoes. This never should have happened. Never. I think Artimus said it best yesterday: "“When people come to that show and they don’t see anybody from Lynyrd Skynyrd, to me it’s kind of silly.” Kind of? They need to bring a halt to this circus and let's switch over to Avatar technology same as K.I.S.S. band is doing. Then we fans can have the real band back on stage and fire this clown shyt show.
Just like Molly Hatchet. @@Cagey-1
Well he was on Skynyrd first and last released right after crash ... he's even on the cover ....so I don't know
@@scrapeyhawkins5299 The First and Last album was released to the public in 1978 after the plane crash. That is when his pre-Skynyrd band contributions as an employee- not a band member- were turned into Lynyrd Skynyrd. BEFORE 1978 Rickey had no connection to anything Skynyrd and had no part in making the band famous. Rickey was NOT Skynyrd from 1973 to 1977 from first debut album Pronounced to their last one Street Survivors. He was turned into Skynyrd in 1978 after band was dead and gone and Ronnie never had a say in it because he was dead and MCA just wanted to capitalize on band for profits because they were dead and gone. And this is being lost on fans today. Until 1978 Rickey Medlocke had ZERO connection to Lynyrd Skynyrd. Even the BlackFoot album Flyin High clearly says it: Rickey was a part of the band that "went on to BECOME Lynyrd Skynyrd" but was NOT Lynyrd Skynyrd during his time as temporary employee which is when he was photographed with them. That was NOT Lynyrd Skynyrd according to the legal contracts and legal issues which MCA clearly laid out in the Box Set showing all 7 legal Lynyrd Skynyrd bands. Rickey was not among them. Today Rickey is intentionally revising his history and using his manufactured false perspective as a platform to blast the RRHF when he has no basis to do so. His perspective is built upon falsehoods today and he needs to be called out on it all. His interviews and articles are laughable really when one considers known documented facts to compare with his modern day revisionism. Its all quite clear when one has the facts to prove his false manufactured perspective.
@@Cagey-1 are they gonna tour without Gary? There are no original members left now
That was really cool. Never seen that before.
Ron Wood is in as a member of the Rolling Stones in 1974. That was 10 years after the Stones became famous. Should he not be in the Rock and Roll HOF? (As a Stone, that is. He's also in as a member of Faces and was on their first album.)
Exactly. They had tons of huge hits AFTER he joined the band, not BEFORE he joined the band. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Tribute band had ZERO hits. ZERO. I love the LS Tribute band but they are just that...a tribute band. THere are no examples of Tribute Bands being inducted into the Hall of Fame.
@@gtrfletchI've never bought into the reformed band or whatever. It is a tribute band and nothing more. Same with Quiet Riot. One original member doesn't make it the same band
Johnny and Rickey are parasites. I don’t care that Johnny is Ronnie’s brother and Medlocke’s claim to be an original member is ludicrous. Both these guys make big paychecks off music they had no hand in creating. We don’t need a Lynyrd Skynyrd with ZERO original members to keep the music alive. The music of Skynyrd will survive all on its own.
I could not agree more! What do you think about applying Avatar technology to Lynyrd Skynyrd and bring the dead guys back to life on stages of the world?
Rickey was great in his own right. He's there for a reason. The others reached out and that's why he's in the band.
Not LS no matter how you slice it. LS dissolved in Gillesberg, Mississippi in October 1977. Billy Powell publicly announced "There will be no more Skynyrd. Not now, not ever." The reunion in '87-90 was understandable, but just a tribute band. But traveling around using the LS name while everyone who played at Hell House, except the absent Artimus, is in the dirt is disgraceful. You know Ronnie would not approve and I'm guessing Allen, Leon, Billy and Steve would not, either. We KNOW Artimus wants nothing to do with them. Pull the plug on this nonsense.
no one else could sing sweet home alabama like that and make it sound cool.no one.
NOT a fan of Ricky "The Wannabe" Medlocke
I prefer The Allman Brothers
Great band
Soon this world will change. No one will listen to music anymore and there will be ...No More Morning Dew.Put your faith in JESUS !
If Ricky played on the debut record he is an original maybe not part of the classic line but original for me
He didn't
not only did he not play on it, by your thinking Pete Best and a bunch of ringers could be The Beatles.
Ricky doesn't need Skynard. Blackfoot was the premiere southern HEAVY rock band. I'll take Blackfoot Strikes over anything Skynard ever did. He plays slide guitar and sings like a beast. Train,train, highway song, wishing well, left turn on a red light , fly away, etc etc. Plus Shorty his granpa recorded one of the best harmonica intros in rock history bar none for train train. The man is super talented and underrated in my opinion.
Blackfoot does not make any money. They do not sell albums. They do not sell tickets. Blackfoot is today just a novelty for Rickey's ego. Bsides, if you talk to the other original band members they will tell you Rickey forced them to put his name on songs they wrote and that Rickey did not write any of their hit songs. Tell me, since Rickey hires a bunch of mohawk boys to be his new Blackfoot band, tell me what hits he has written since losing Charlie Hargrett and Jakson Spires and Greg T. Walker? Rickey has absolutely failed on his own which is why he has to resort to playing guitar in someone else's band for a living. Blackfoot is nonexistent.
@Cagey-1 they aren't active because Riky decided to play with Skynard, anyone who knows rock knows that. Legacy wise Blackfoots material stands on its own. No Skynard needed! When I saw the original Blackfoot Riky just slayed that guitar and commanded the stage like no other. Never realized what an accomplished slide player he is. But he comes from legendary stock with Shorty Medlock being his grandfather.
"Will the original members of Lynyrd Skynyrd please raise your hand?"
By virtue of that, only Mr. Rossington should raise his hand. Mssrs. Powell and Wilkeson joined a bit later on. So, neither is an "original" as much as perhaps Mr. Medlocke or anyone else. What about Mr. Junstrom or Mr. Walker? They are "originals" too.
Maybe what should have been asked was, "Who among you were there when the plane crashed and were in the band back then?" Ahhh, now Mssrs. Powell and Wilkeson can raise their hands.
I will agree that Mr. Medlocke enjoys the spotlight (so much so that he did TV acting for a while) and perhaps yes, his ego is big, and maybe bigger than the late Mr. Van Zant, but that doesn't mean he didn't contribute in the early years. Whether he was a "hired hand" or not, if you like "First and Last" (as I do), you have Mr. Medlocke to thank for it as well as the others, because he was on it and contributed a big part to it. Yes, that's not as well known as their other music that maybe he wasn't a part of, but those of us really into the band don't only just pay attention to the popular songs. We like the one you DO NOT hear on radio all that often or at all.
Maybe you need to dig a little deeper. Leon was an original and quit the band to go back to his full time job until Ronnie convinced him to return.
@@RonTDB Not correct. Bad info. Mr Wilkeson joined the band in 1972 and by then they had already been Lynyrd Skynyrd for a few years. Mr. Wilkeson replaced Greg T. Walker as the bassist in the band.
@@googleusergp I think we are all missing a little thing called context. We all seem to want to jump the gun and take it all the way back to before Lynyrd Skynyrd was even a named band. Even Gary Rossington keeps things IN CONTEXT that we all seem to forget and ignore and what I mean by this is that Gary is saying original band members are those in the original Lynyrd Skynyrd band that recorded the band's first album. Anything before that is NOT Lynyrd Skynyrd. So to keep things in context correctly according to band history, that first album is the dividing line. It was only after the plane crash and Skynyrd died in 1977 that the surviving band members ALLOWED earlier material to be released as Lynyrd Skynyrd even though technically it wasn't Skynyrd. So Gary is correct in saying who is and who is not original because Gary is staying true to first album context as does Leon and others when asked. The band shown on Pronounced is the original Lynyrd Skynyrd. Not any configuration BEFORE that.
@@Cagey-1 That's Mr. Rossington's opinion and while it's valid, it's not the whole story. Yes, all of those members brought the band to the next level, but they wouldn't have gotten there without the early members getting them off the ground, including Mr. Medlocke. Whether we like him or not is not up for debate. Mr. Rossington at times was quite irritating and a bit selfish in my belief. In actuality they all were in their own way. They became famous and once they did, along with "liquid courage" and "better living through chemistry" they made some bad decisions and some paid for it with their lives.
Exactly. Ricky was the bands 2nd drummer and sang plus wrote 2 songs on that album. Ronnie knew that Ricky had everything to do with T Bone playing bass while they searched for a replacement as Blackfoot had already formed and in fact had a better record deal then Ronnie had been able to get for his own band. For a very short time Jakson Spires was actually a Skynyrd drummer filling in before Blackfoot took off for their 1st European tour. To many think that because Ricky wasn't in the band when the plane crashed he's not a original member. I call the originals those who sweated as Band Brothers back in the earliest days of " Hell House" those who jammed and learned in Hell House are in fact the original members. Hughie played a bunch of gigs throughout the years as a instant fill in because Allen and Gary were always seemingly breaking fingers, hands and wrists in fights, car wrecks and skateboarding mishaps. Ricky was always ready like Hughie to fly in on a moments notice because they knew every note of every song. It seemed like depending on the day of the week on what answer you'd hear about who was and who wasn't original. I will continue to say that those who actually played and sweated inside Hell House and played on that very 1st album are in fact the originals because only original members play on the very 1st album. Anyone who comes along after it's recorded and in the "Can" can never be referred to as original.
"Southern Rock" - lol. What a ridiculous term. Is that like "Italian Opera"?
Its no different than "British rock" or "Canadian rock" or "Heavy Metal" or another other genre. Southern rock simply means rock music from the South. So yeah, sort of like Italian opera. The South has a culture like any other, and so our music is given that classification for its regional connection like any other.
@@Cagey-1 I think you may have missed my point. Rock originated in the South. It was the melding of the Blues and Country. Rock and Roll is Southern to its core. It would be appropriate to call Doo-Wop "Northern" Rock and Roll, for example, but it is silly and redundant to say Southern Rock, just as it is silly to say Italian Opera since opera originated in Italy.
@@johndoe-ln4oi Got it. I did miss your point. Came across another way...
@@Cagey-1 All good! Thanks!
@@johndoe-ln4oi Not so fast, Sparky. Bill Haley and the Comets were from Pennsylvania and Buddy Holly was from west Texas.. Chuck Berry is from East St. Louis, Little Richard was from Georgia, but he's the only one of the originators who came from the Deep South. Rock is actually black music,It's rhythm & Blues, black gospel and St Louis jazz. All those came from the heart and soul of the black man and woman. Even country was based on the combination of Jimmy Rodgers ( not Jimmie Rodgers ) acoustic soul blues and Bob Wills swing jazz. You don't seem to know your music history. son. Yes, Whites contributed to early rock and roll,.but white radio wanted nothing to do with "race records" that black artists made. City councils in the south banned rock n' roll. It's 90% black music originating across America and don't you forget it.
I don't view Ricky as an original member. Ricky is from Jacksonville Florida. He is a great song writer and musician. I love Blackfoot and Charlie, Greg and Jackson.The are a large part of my youth in Jacksonville. Why do people attack Ricky ? He is not an original member. I'm sure he would like to be considered one. Big deal . Who cares. He's done more to promote Skynyrd and play the music than those who hate. Let it go. LISTEN TO RONNIE'S LYRICS AND THE GREAT GUITAR.
Who are you to determine if Gary "LIED"? Gary is an original member, so what he says should go. Some guy on the internet shouldn't be the one to say, "Well, I know an original member said so, but I say he's a liar, because I sat on my couch and said so!!"
Like any human I can review the evidence. In one video Gary denies Rickey an original position and in another video Gary changes and says he is when it is needed to support fraud. I can see the evidence and determine for myself that a man cannot have it both ways. Which is it? I have determined from the evidence Gary lied. The 'who am I' wording you chose means nothing. Gary lied. And in discussion forums with tens of thousands- even hundreds of thousands of fans- presented with the same evidence, the majority also agree. Please vote on facts, not your feelings. Gary cannot have it both ways. He lied. And as a free thinking human I can make my own determinations as I choose same as you. But I am not downgrading you for whatever you choose to think. Let others make their own choices and respect them. You do not have to accept them. But you certainly should allow others to think as they choose. Your wording is typical of that political party of people who don't like America or our rights and freedoms protected by U.S. Constitution and are actively destroying this country. They talk like you do using emotion to try and control others with. Please refrain. Stick to facts. Let others choose for themselves without launching personal attacks that mean nothing.
You could have just stopped at the part where you admit you don't actually know anything.
@@DIESEL0759 Its not about knowing. Its about making a reasonable logical conclusion based on evidence presented. We have video of Gary going both ways. Any logical reasonable human can determine and conclude based on the evidence. Sorry to conclude and determine you are not one of them based on your own words. You are clearly here to simply harass because you don't like something. Care to continue?
I think Gary was just doing what was best for his family and his legacy. Keeping the Tribute Band legit was and is important. We all need to keep the LS legendary music alive. Absolutely critical. Diesel, you KNOW Ronnie did not consider RIckey or Larry or Greg T Walker as original members. Ronnie could have had Rickey join the band as either a drummer (when Bob left) or a guitarist (when Ed left) but he did not. I will say it one more time: Ronnie wrote Don't ASk me No Questions directed at Rickey. No doubt.....Jakson said in interviews that he wrote STars as a response...
No, I do not "know" the thoughts of dead people. That's what you do. You know exactly what someone thinks when they're dead. I don't claim to know what dead people think. Can you check in on Aunt Penny? She's been dead a while now and I'd love to know her thoughts. You're all experts on what dead people think, so Aunt Penny shouldn't be a problem for you.