The best part of this, for me, was Ardyn's gasp when Ignis pulled out the Ring of Lucii. For the entire main game, he's been confident that everything was going according to plan: Noctis and friends leave Insomnia, Luna not far behind with the Ring; they meet up at Altissia, and Noctis gets said Ring, etc. Ardyn was SO SURE the plan was flawless. Why not let the advisor to the "King of Light" come along for the ride? He wouldn't have been able to fight Ardyn by himself! And then, Ignis Scientia shoots a massive middle finger at Destiny and pulls out the Ring. Ardyn is COMPLETELY caught off guard by this. His "Where did you get that?" sounds furious. This was NOT supposed to happen. That's why he fights with the entire Armiger -- Ignis is a THREAT to Ardyn's long game, and he needs to put him down NOW before anything else goes off the rails.
Story wise anyways. Not gonna lie, the gameplay wasn’t what kept me hooked, I actually found the gameplay a little boring repetitive. But the story is the real reason to love this DLC (as well as that main theme)
We would've gotten more of it too if it weren't for those meddling kids, seriously though it's very tragic that everything got cancelled and I'm still butthurt about it to this day. It makes me wish Nomura made this because apparently Nomura has no personal life outside of Square and has no reason to stop working for them. I have nothing wrong with Hajime but we all know if Nomura was assigned to this the game would be finished at this point in time, at least Nomura might see his vision come to life through Verum Rex. This game is sad for more out of Universe reasons than in universe, I'm hoping they come back to it one day after FFVII Remake or something, just to give us Ebony mod manager or something. The petition for that is still going too.
yeah but it's not the real good ending. The reason Noct had to die was so that the power of the Lucii could be taken into the Astral Plane, allowing him to kill Ardyn in both body and soul, completely annihilating the starscourge. But here, the starscourge still exists. Things will go wrong again
@@jstar3382 that's kinda not true. The only thing that noctis killed was the starscourge inside Ardyn. In the astral plane, Ardyn was finally been free from the curse and found peace while his soul remains intact and pure. He even visits noctis gang and family in the novelization version of the suppose to be a DLC for the last episode of Ardyn, but sadly it got cancelled in favor for the team to focus on FF16
Ignis: You may have the power of kings! But you can't beat me! Ardyn: How so? Do you think that small ring will save you? Ignis: No! But I have the power of potions and "pause"! Ardyn: (starts to sweat intensely)
10:38 this moment gets me everytime. Everything is perfect in those few seconds. The voice acting (huge props to Adam Croasdell at this point), the music, the animation, the atmosphere. Oh em gee I am crying
That scene with Ravus 20:04 almost really made me cry to and to see the bonds formed between characters and how they all came a long way together it's a better ending then the original. Final Fantasy XV will forever hold a place in my heart.
Gods be like: Yeah we punished him for being evil and all, so he can’t be king. We let him keep his demigod like magic powers of magic and weapon summoning though, no reason to strip him of those.
Plus it's also presumable that even if they tried to take ardyn's powers it wouldn't work. He's stated he can gain power by absorbing more daemons, and in the final battle has a power equal to noct's power of light form as a result of that. He had most likely absorbed too many daemons by the time he was cast aside that they could fuel his power whether his original abilities were stripped away or not.
The original intention For FFXV was supposed to have been that Adryn was actually a Scapegoat. Bahumut in this version was to be revealed that he hated humanity, and wanted it destroyed, so he set the events in motion to have Adryn do his dirty work for him. There was supposed to be a DLC that involved Adryn managing to crack that fact, create a team up of the heroes, and eventually defeat Bahumut to get the Hero's death he so dearly desired.
He wasn't even evil at the start, I don't honestly know why "Cain" was punished but "Abel" wasn't. Somnus pretty much ruined Ardyn's life just because he didn't want his brother to have the throne, why didn't the Gods feel this and punish him instead? Maybe they only noticed Ardyn's attack on Insomnia and nothing else? Very selective omniscience from the Gods there.
Well it is a more positive ending, at least. I can practically hear Bahamut in the background being like: * Sees Ignis with the Ring * Bahamut: WHAT THE F-!???
*Sees ignis overflowing with power* Bahamut: well shit I didn't see that coming regardless it won't be enough to •••••••••••• ah how the fuck. *see ignis defeat ardyn*
I mean being summoned by gods might make him angry. Think of all the snark and quips. Think of him becoming his own side part way through and going screw you to everyone
Ardyn says his brother snatched the throne, meaning he was meant to be king, ie the first born. He was the heir to the throne who spent his days roaming the land healing people of the scourge, absorbing their taint and the demons they held. In the other original timeline Ardyn says that his brother was a jealous king, one not yet chosen by the crystal, ostracized and demonized him, making a true monster of him. So piecing it all together Ardyn was the heir who in his earnest to save everyone absorbed the star scourge into himself. This led to his being forbidden his ascension as stated by Bahamut. Afterwards his brother, jealous of Ardyn used his fall from the Astral's grace to slander Ardyn, exiling him, and locking him away in Angelgard. Ardyn says he was trapped the dark for ages. So after losing his inheritance to his selfish brother, and sacrificing his own soul to heal the masses, Ardyn was left to stew in that state of anguish and bitterness of his betrayals for hundreds, if not thousands of years, with the starscourge festering further within his broken heart, twisting it into something wicked. So to me whatever he was before he lost the throne, I don't see how he wouldn't become the deliciously vicious mastermind we have before us.
Mischievous One Apparentky the dark he was locked in was ancient Egypt, at least according to Assassins Creed Origins, and we have the main character to thank for freeing him
Well, congrats, you pieced most of it together. Granted, no one would normally think that Ardyn would speak the truth in such matters, but as it turns out...
Let's not forget that Ardyn took the scourge from people into himself AT THE ASTRALS' BEHEST. He did their bidding and they still backstabbed him. The game was rigged from the start.
@@cganale not true. He was named the true king by both crystal and gods originally, until Somnus found out, killed Aera, and destroyed Ardyn's life. This in turn destroyed the original prophecy. Ardyn was supposed to have cured the Star of its scourage, but once Somnus took the throne, it changed everything. That is why Ardyn was given a new destiny, not because he was bad or predestined for this: his original was taken from him. And that the scourge built up in the Star for thousands of years because it couldn't be purified by Ardyn as before.
I compliment the battle and the details seen in Ardyn's comportment changes from when he sees the Lucii ring. He goes from not seriously fighting and kicking Ignis back to using Armiger to try and kill Ignis. Though the ending is convoluted since no discussion explains how the group defeated Ardyn, the alternate ending is interesting. Many players do not approve of the multiple endings, though the story began as a alternate choice given by Regis by allowing Noctis friends to travel with him, in comparison to the Omen trailer when Noctis traveled to meet Lunafreya alone. The story of Final Fantasy XV is man trying to control their fate in hopes of a better outcome and not to succumb accepting an end the beholder does not want, except Noctis who chooses to accept his destiny.
Since Ignis never went blind like in the original timeline he was able to do research on Ardyn & the Starscourge while Noctis was in the Crystal sleeping. During that 10 years he was able to find a way to defeat Ardyn without Noctis dying.
From what I can gather, Ignis theorized that people with ties to Noct’s family could wield the ring as well, so Ignis made that sacrifice and beat Ardyn to the point where only his demonic corruption was keeping him alive.
I've never been called "your majesty" before, would you do me the honor? My allegiance lies with the true king alone! Well then, off with your head! I love Ardyn lol
@@briedriel8133 and even Noctis’ original story felt weak considering he was “ordained by the crystal” as a chosen king. Meaning his sacrifice was already pointless since he was “chosen” he had no real agency the entire time in the game. All that covenant with the gods bullshit was just the divine making him jump through hoops for their amusement. In turn also made luna’s role in the game forced af since she was literally just an overglorified receptionist to the gods.
Eh i actually liked it not being an oh so happily ever after everything, and the darker ending (the true ending) of the main game was in my opinion more impactful and interesting. Though i won't hate on them getting a happy ending
nah, i love the actual ending. I mean, how did ignis manage to beat Ardyn? Even noctis the true king took 10 years to be able to wield the power to beat ardyn. How convenient. XD
This fight was surprisingly difficult my first time around. I couldn't figure out why no matter what I did, I couldn't seem to do enough damage to Ardyn in time. Turns out I just needed to get really good at those counterstrikes, lol.
Does anyone take notice of Ignis' reaction when Ardyn reveals his true name? "THE FOUNDER KING" ?? My theory is that Izunia (not confirmed) stole Ardyn's name and take the throne. Logically, to steal name you have to be identical in appearance. Thus, Izunia and Ardyn is most likely twins.
Rasdan Could be. In a sense that story may have a Cain and Abel dynamic ( one brother was praised while the other walked the earth in exile with a blackened soul.) Perhaps that theory could be proven when Episode Ardyn comes out this year.
I hope then that Ardyn does some serious light and shadow work for to stop being a almagam of demons and insteads transforms to a whole being by actually taking responsibility. And then he can go kick Ifrit's butt for causing all the nonsense in the first place.
Man this game...this game despite all his flaws still makes me look it up after months since i started it this february (now it s March) of this year, i really hope one day we will get something new for these ffxv characters because they are amazing (not all of them ofc)
little funny nod at the end. You can clearly read from lips that Ignis says "Your Majesty" as he said before to ardyn he having only 1 true king after Ardyn asks him to say "your majesty" never noticed that before
Welp this just goes to show that apparently if ignus did one thing different he could've saved the damn world. So really we should blame the rest of the game existing as it does in ignis. Like wow everything wouldve been better.
Another theory as to why noctis could have suvived in this ending is because not only did ignis had more time to prepare for that day but also the fact that noct was not trapped into the crystal by ardyn but willingly went in and had more time to master the ring so he wouldnt be killed but the one factor that adds it up in my view is that one more blood price had to be paided for the ring to be powered and partially weaken the star scourge ignis refused to let fate take the life of his bes friend and ignis was the one who payed the final blood price rather than noct.
Everybody it's not the good, it's the bad end because Ardyn still lives in the "other world" and when Noctis dies he cannot defeat Ardyn because he'll be weak and old...
A bit of a shame that Ignis receives no new weapons/moves upon receiving *the power of 13 OP magic-using kings* and only gets a stat boost and visual changes. They're damn cool visual changes, but...
Why would he receive a new weapon? The royal arms are only linked to noctis because he’s related to the Kings, and he can call upon them through a soul bond as cor stated. When Nyx wore the ring he didn’t get any new weapons. The ring can amplify the power of an individual, but it’s true power can only be unlocked by the chosen king
tbh. I dont think his brogher "took" his throne. I imagine Ardyn as a blacksheep of the family. He accepted the task to help eradicate the scrouge, in repay for the throne, but he asorbed it. I dont remember it saying the Astral task him to absord it, just but rather just repel it? Anyway, I would prerfer Ardyn just a psychotic jealous lil bro than just a tragic fallen-hero like what happened to Itachi... Ardyn is best as being a villain.
Nicolas Wasn’t Ardyn a “healer of the people” as he called himself when he revealed his name to Noctis? Would that make Ardyn the Oracle of his time? I always imagined that Ardyn was chosen to be the first king, and was the oracle at the same time, and the gods were like “WHOOPS WE FUCKED UP. EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE DOING GOOD DEEDS AND HEALING EVERYONE YOU CAN’T BE KING ANYMORE.” But that’s just how I imagined it. I guess we will finally (hopefully) have our answers when Episode Ardyn comes out.
Yeah..he could be an oracle too. And after his corruption the Astrals then decieded to give the title of king (and crystal ) to his brother at the same time give the healing powers to the Tenebrae maidens. in a way, they really ereased him from history as if he never existed of made some helping progress... Another question to mind is the there's 114kings in 2000 years???
He had pain and sadness for his wife, that's what he mean by "can't save the one he love", he refers of Luna and almost Ignis, that hurt him to not have been able to to be the one to save them
Classic Yasunori Mitsuda. The soundtrack is somewhat reminiscent of Chrono Cross and a little bit of Xenogears. I hope the next Final Fantasy the composer will be Yasunori Mitsuda again. I really love his music
And I also hope all of the episodes will be integrated in the main game with the missing ten years, the alternative ending becoming the main ending, and additional episodes for Luna, Ravus, and Ardyn, episode for the King's Glaive and also be integrated to the main game. I know the possibility is very slim but theres nothing wrong in dreaming lol. With these moves, I think they can finally redeem this messy game. As it currently stands, it is not enough. If they can provide the additional episodes and integrate it with the game, Im willing to buy it once more.
Garland Garrison you know that reminds me of Vayne solidor when the occuria took him over, looking like a wrestler on steroids with mechanical wings coming out his muscles, lol...
@@ernestobustos5718 more like the rushed edited original ending. the original had 4 endings planned and 2 entire story missions / areas that were cut due to coding / bugs that could not be completed before the set release date, hence the odd dlc. this stuff is not secret and was in nearly every game news site when the game came out. So don't be a salty dick m8
Sad part that it's already coded into the game and will still can't go there. What this game could've been. Dude was not the best guy to direct this game.
The FFXV DLCs had one destined path and explained what happened during those sections of the story left unexplained. This one however showed what could’ve happened, beyond the normal path and into the many possibilities. I’d like to think Ignis’s alternate ending was the true ending. Would there were a way to expand upon this concept...
Tbh, I never really was fond of ignus as a character and always viewed his roll as weak. Oh how wrong I was. This dlc gave hlne such a new outlook on him. And he looks badass with his hair down lol
Agreed but I kinda have to wonder, is Ardyn truly dead in this ending since in the original, Noctis had to "die" and follow him to the afterlife with the spirits of the kings to finally destroy him (my interpretation),
Ignis doesn't have his eyes back, he still loses them after using the ring. Literally the only thing that changed is the fact that Ravus survives. Also it's not really an alternate ending, more like and alternate way to the same ending. After the scene where they enter the palace and Ravus gives him the sword Noct still has to fight Ardyn and sacrifice his life to stop him.
But I thought it was necessary for Noct to be trapped in the crystal and then later sacrifice his life anyway? I mean, otherwise the gods wouldn't have said that it's his destiny. And the very end with Noct sitting on the throne and Ignis stnding in front of him has to be something like the last camping scene or the scene with him and Luna at the end of the main game, because it's day outside which would mean that Noct has to be dead at this point, meaning that it can't happen in reality, meaning that Ignis' eyes being healed never happens in reality either.
I'd like to ask you where you get the evidence from that Noctis never had to die and Ardyn was just leading him to believe so. I'd also like to know how Ardyn made it possible for the Crystal to absorb Noctis in the first place. I'd also like to know what exactly Noctis was doing in the Crystal in the original storyline, I mean he spoke to Bahamut, that always seemed like evidence to me that his time inside the crystal was necessary to fulfill the task set for him by the gods. And didn't Bahamut himself say that Noctis needs to be sacrificed? Or was that an illusion by Ardyn too? Then what about the time where Bahamut was summoned for the fight against Ifrit? Also, if Noctis really didn't enter the Crystal, if the fight against Ardyn played out completely different, then why didn't we see any of that in the alternate ending? Why only stuff that seems insignificant instead? Maybe because the stuff that was shown was actually the only stuff that changed? I'd also like to say that, if this what-if ending is actually the true good ending, then this sucks. Presenting us a better ending than the one players worked for, that the players went through the entire game to achieve. Why would you even bother doing it if you as the player can cause something much better to happen? Of course the journey to the ending would be fun, but you'd also lose all investment in the characters' motives, and thus any investment into their personal story. If it would've been only Ravus who gets a different fate in the alternate timeline, then I would've been fine with it, but this...
How awesome would it be that by the time the PC version comes they would incorporate all of the DLC into the main game itself - including this choice from Episode Ignis. The only problem would be that this choice would contradict episode Prompto (and the whole train sequence would not happen). But with some slight changes it could be made to work. "Play along" could mean that Ignis would just pretend to be an agent for Ardyn until Chapter 13 and all the events from the train and episode Prompto could still happen. Only Chapter 13 itself would have to be changed (again :D) to show the fact that Ravus is still alive and together with Noctis and Gladio is trying to save Prompto while Ignis betrays Ardyn and fights him. The whole thing could be patched into console versions too of course for those who have the season pass. This would essentially give a true second ending to the game depending on your choices. It would be glorious....
Knowing that this is most likely not the true ending makes me a little upset. It's like seeing something nice in a store then finding out it was just plastic. If the original game this kinda characterization and story it would be the classic it should be.
I have many mixed feelings about this alternate ending... It just makes Ignis seem kinda... like the protagonist? He is taking over the roles of everyone? He is the one who gets taken to Zegnatus Keep instead of Prompto, he has this whole oath thing going on like Gladio and he gets to wield the ring like Noct? Don't get me wrong I like Ignis but this DLC just maked the others seem so insignificant. It kinda takes the group thing
It’s to show how loyal ignis is to noctis. Prompto is loyal but he kinda just stays out of the arguments. Gladio argues with noctis and gets mad at him for being selfish after Luna dies and ignis goes blind. Even then ignis takes noct’s side and stands by him. Which if you watched the anime then you also see how close ignis is with noct, he practically raised noctis since his father wasn’t around much. Gladio and prompto are noct’s brothers but ignis is the true big brother to noctis
Ignis is one tough mad lad. Here he goes risking his life against one of the most powerful people in the game whilst wielding unfathomable power while constantly suffering being turned to ash and powering through several degree burns, still being able to keep a straight face.
So here's my take on this ending. During the fight with Ignis, Ardyn was severely weakened and lost most of his powers. He was more than likely gone for several years regenerating his physical form, meaning he couldn't absorb as many daemons over the years Noct was absent, making him even weaker. I believe this leads into the alternate battle against Noct, Ignis, Gladio, and Prompto in Episode Ardyn. In this timeline, the royal retinue reach the Citadel and meet Ravus, who promptly gives Regis' sword to Noctis. Ardyn was approached by the royal retinue, along with Ravus. Being weaker than in the regular timeline, he could only use his power to render one of them unconscious, he chose Ravus, seeing that he was the second most powerful after Noctis. Ardyn, at this point, realizes that there is still no way he can take Noct, Ignis, Gladio, and Prompto all at once. So he leads Noctis to the streets of Insomnia, hoping to weaken Noctis before the other three get there. But the other three ultimately descending the Citadel and joining the fight. And in the end, they were able to defeat Ardyn. But this still has a big question, why doesn't Noct have to sacrifice himself here? Well think of it like this. Ardyn gains his powers from daemons, he loses a portion of that power if he takes damage, those demonic powers are what grants him immortality. So with that said, he ultimately lost so much power being battered by the the king and his retinue, that he was became mortal once more. And Noct was able to kill Ardyn, and by extent, the daemons within him without sacrificing himself. But there's another big question, why didn't Noct just kill Ardyn while he was on the ground in the regular timeline? Well that's because nobody knew Ardyn would lose his immortality if he was weakened just enough. Well, everyone except Ardyn. And Ardyn at that point used what was left of his power to retreat into the crystal, forcing Noct to sacrifice himself. But in this timeline, somebody (more than likely Ignis) figured out that Ardyn could be rendered mortal if he was weakened. And why didn't Bahamut mention this information to Noct? Well that's because Bahamut didn't want Noct to live. But this wasn't to satisfy Ardyn's thirst for revenge, it was because Bahamut was afraid of Noct's power. In this DLC, it does say that Noct would gain the power to rival the gods. And throughout the entire timeline of FFXV, Bahamut was afraid of those that could overpower him. He was afraid of the daemons' power, he was afraid of Ardyn's power, and afraid of Noct's power. Bahamut needed Noct dead to retain his power and influence over humanity. As selfish as motives go, Bahamut truly care about humanity, just himself. And that is my take on the circumstances of both of these timelines.
The best part of this, for me, was Ardyn's gasp when Ignis pulled out the Ring of Lucii.
For the entire main game, he's been confident that everything was going according to plan: Noctis and friends leave Insomnia, Luna not far behind with the Ring; they meet up at Altissia, and Noctis gets said Ring, etc. Ardyn was SO SURE the plan was flawless. Why not let the advisor to the "King of Light" come along for the ride? He wouldn't have been able to fight Ardyn by himself!
And then, Ignis Scientia shoots a massive middle finger at Destiny and pulls out the Ring. Ardyn is COMPLETELY caught off guard by this. His "Where did you get that?" sounds furious. This was NOT supposed to happen. That's why he fights with the entire Armiger -- Ignis is a THREAT to Ardyn's long game, and he needs to put him down NOW before anything else goes off the rails.
well said!!!
Hes like like "Now im going to ki- HO CRAP! THIS BOYS PACKIN HEAT!"
And in the main timeline, ignis was the one who got the ring to noctis while he was unconscious, so it makes sense too!
It may be the last great (and greatest) middle finger to Ardyn by Bahamut ! x)
Ardyn: ( F U R I O U S L Y T E A B A G S )
Gladio: I took down the master of swords
Prompto: I took down a giant machine
Ignis: I took down a powerful ardyn alone. No one can best me now
Noct: I believe you!
But Iggy is best character, and with great boner comes great responsability.@Mr Niceguy
Next
Ardyn: by myself I defeated noctis
Okay, I believe you.
@@prynarains trueblade seeker or just a pancake
Iggy after beating ardyn: Noct......That's...........it.......... I've come up with a new reciepe
'Ardyn soup'
Kingslayer Stew
DnDn-f eww no, it would just consist of black sludge and what not. But I guess even Ignis would be able to make it look somewhat appetizing xDDD
DnDn-f " great cant wait to try it out"
Its stats would be like -hated by god
@@septicstache9625 I guess it would be just spaghetti with black sauce...
Ok ok, I’m a huge fan of Prompto and I really loved his DLC but.. Wow! I’ve no choice but to admit that Iggy’s DLC is the best!
Who knows? Maybe the events of Episode Prompto happened during the timeskip of this ending?
Story wise anyways. Not gonna lie, the gameplay wasn’t what kept me hooked, I actually found the gameplay a little boring repetitive. But the story is the real reason to love this DLC (as well as that main theme)
Charlotte Ross same here.
Be honest, Ardyn and Iggy had the best dlc's.
We would've gotten more of it too if it weren't for those meddling kids, seriously though it's very tragic that everything got cancelled and I'm still butthurt about it to this day.
It makes me wish Nomura made this because apparently Nomura has no personal life outside of Square and has no reason to stop working for them.
I have nothing wrong with Hajime but we all know if Nomura was assigned to this the game would be finished at this point in time, at least Nomura might see his vision come to life through Verum Rex.
This game is sad for more out of Universe reasons than in universe, I'm hoping they come back to it one day after FFVII Remake or something, just to give us Ebony mod manager or something.
The petition for that is still going too.
AN ENDING WHERE NOCTIS DOESNT DIE AND IGNIS IS NOT BLIND?? my life is complete
yeah but it's not the real good ending. The reason Noct had to die was so that the power of the Lucii could be taken into the Astral Plane, allowing him to kill Ardyn in both body and soul, completely annihilating the starscourge. But here, the starscourge still exists. Things will go wrong again
@@jstar3382 true
Ignis lucis caelum
12:00 noctis dream be like... x71 mulitplier..
@@jstar3382 that's kinda not true. The only thing that noctis killed was the starscourge inside Ardyn. In the astral plane, Ardyn was finally been free from the curse and found peace while his soul remains intact and pure.
He even visits noctis gang and family in the novelization version of the suppose to be a DLC for the last episode of Ardyn, but sadly it got cancelled in favor for the team to focus on FF16
7:40 that moment when Ardyn thinks you’re a casual and teabags...
haha
that made me fucking laugh to hard XD
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.
or is he wavedashing?
I was so serious but lost it at this moment XDDDDDDD
7:39 Asserting dominance before a fight
Best comment. (Yes, I know, 5 years late, but I don't care!)
Happened to me like 5 minutes a go during this bossfight 😂😂😂
i thought the play along choice was the choice that will make ignis evil and turn against noctis.....turned out he was even more loyal
I thought the same.
Ignis: You may have the power of kings! But you can't beat me!
Ardyn: How so? Do you think that small ring will save you?
Ignis: No! But I have the power of potions and "pause"!
Ardyn: (starts to sweat intensely)
Ardyns teabag is the greatest thing on this episode.
So what you're trying to tell me is that if you decided to humor the guy for, like, ten minutes, then the whole main cast would have made it.
who knows how long ignis was knocked out for … also they probably tailed ardyn
@Long Tang She isn't the main cast. Admittedly, neither is Ravus...
This alternative ending is canon. You cant change my mind
@@davidgigauri2512 Alternate timelines mean alternate canons. So I guess your right in that context.
@@LuckiSir prefer that ending to the real one
10:38 this moment gets me everytime. Everything is perfect in those few seconds. The voice acting (huge props to Adam Croasdell at this point), the music, the animation, the atmosphere. Oh em gee I am crying
then ardyn starts tbagging
That scene with Ravus 20:04 almost really made me cry to and to see the bonds formed between characters and how they all came a long way together it's a better ending then the original. Final Fantasy XV will forever hold a place in my heart.
Gods be like: Yeah we punished him for being evil and all, so he can’t be king.
We let him keep his demigod like magic powers of magic and weapon summoning though, no reason to strip him of those.
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I don't think they can steal his inherent magic away, as for his weapons he could have reclaimed them.
Plus it's also presumable that even if they tried to take ardyn's powers it wouldn't work. He's stated he can gain power by absorbing more daemons, and in the final battle has a power equal to noct's power of light form as a result of that. He had most likely absorbed too many daemons by the time he was cast aside that they could fuel his power whether his original abilities were stripped away or not.
The original intention For FFXV was supposed to have been that Adryn was actually a Scapegoat.
Bahumut in this version was to be revealed that he hated humanity, and wanted it destroyed, so he set the events in motion to have Adryn do his dirty work for him.
There was supposed to be a DLC that involved Adryn managing to crack that fact, create a team up of the heroes, and eventually defeat Bahumut to get the Hero's death he so dearly desired.
He wasn't even evil at the start, I don't honestly know why "Cain" was punished but "Abel" wasn't.
Somnus pretty much ruined Ardyn's life just because he didn't want his brother to have the throne, why didn't the Gods feel this and punish him instead? Maybe they only noticed Ardyn's attack on Insomnia and nothing else?
Very selective omniscience from the Gods there.
Well it is a more positive ending, at least.
I can practically hear Bahamut in the background being like:
* Sees Ignis with the Ring *
Bahamut: WHAT THE F-!???
*Sees ignis overflowing with power*
Bahamut: well shit I didn't see that coming regardless it won't be enough to •••••••••••• ah how the fuck.
*see ignis defeat ardyn*
This is how you create a supporting character, Square!!!
Paolo Ibayan and a villain
True. Barthandelus is a piece of shit compared to Ardyn. He's well crafted.
Paolo Ibayan Bar who? 😂
Paolo Ibayan Ardyn Izunia owns his world while Bart is nothing more than a puppet
Square knows.... THEY made it!
7:39 He's combat ready you guys!
James Atkins yaaay a RWBY reference
PENNY
LMAO Ardyn teabags the floor 8 times before fighting.
i was wondering if anyone noticed, what the hell was that? XD
Lol he's like get rekted
Can we take a moment to appreciate that Ardyn had one hell of a mugging coming his way with Noct, the bros, AND Ravus gunning for him?
I nominate Ardyn as one of the villains for dissidia, comment if you think another villain would be for dissidia
sparky 357 Gilgamesh and feral chaos
Caius Ballad
i mean, who else would be an adversary for noct? Ardyn fits the description
Ardyn would be a great addition...
I mean being summoned by gods might make him angry. Think of all the snark and quips. Think of him becoming his own side part way through and going screw you to everyone
Ignis really is the best party member. Probably the overall best character.
I'm telling you, episode Ignis cured my depression. The alternate ending was amazing, I'm now accepting it as the true ending.
I haven't read the novel but i think episode Luna and episode Noctis follow this timeline
Ardyn says his brother snatched the throne, meaning he was meant to be king, ie the first born. He was the heir to the throne who spent his days roaming the land healing people of the scourge, absorbing their taint and the demons they held. In the other original timeline Ardyn says that his brother was a jealous king, one not yet chosen by the crystal, ostracized and demonized him, making a true monster of him.
So piecing it all together Ardyn was the heir who in his earnest to save everyone absorbed the star scourge into himself. This led to his being forbidden his ascension as stated by Bahamut. Afterwards his brother, jealous of Ardyn used his fall from the Astral's grace to slander Ardyn, exiling him, and locking him away in Angelgard. Ardyn says he was trapped the dark for ages. So after losing his inheritance to his selfish brother, and sacrificing his own soul to heal the masses, Ardyn was left to stew in that state of anguish and bitterness of his betrayals for hundreds, if not thousands of years, with the starscourge festering further within his broken heart, twisting it into something wicked. So to me whatever he was before he lost the throne, I don't see how he wouldn't become the deliciously vicious mastermind we have before us.
Mischievous One Apparentky the dark he was locked in was ancient Egypt, at least according to Assassins Creed Origins, and we have the main character to thank for freeing him
Well, congrats, you pieced most of it together.
Granted, no one would normally think that Ardyn would speak the truth in such matters, but as it turns out...
Let's not forget that Ardyn took the scourge from people into himself AT THE ASTRALS' BEHEST. He did their bidding and they still backstabbed him. The game was rigged from the start.
@@cganale not true. He was named the true king by both crystal and gods originally, until Somnus found out, killed Aera, and destroyed Ardyn's life. This in turn destroyed the original prophecy. Ardyn was supposed to have cured the Star of its scourage, but once Somnus took the throne, it changed everything. That is why Ardyn was given a new destiny, not because he was bad or predestined for this: his original was taken from him. And that the scourge built up in the Star for thousands of years because it couldn't be purified by Ardyn as before.
Bravo
I prefer this route better than the standard.
When Ignis is the true hero, literally everything turns out better.
I compliment the battle and the details seen in Ardyn's comportment changes from when he sees the Lucii ring. He goes from not seriously fighting and kicking Ignis back to using Armiger to try and kill Ignis. Though the ending is convoluted since no discussion explains how the group defeated Ardyn, the alternate ending is interesting. Many players do not approve of the multiple endings, though the story began as a alternate choice given by Regis by allowing Noctis friends to travel with him, in comparison to the Omen trailer when Noctis traveled to meet Lunafreya alone. The story of Final Fantasy XV is man trying to control their fate in hopes of a better outcome and not to succumb accepting an end the beholder does not want, except Noctis who chooses to accept his destiny.
Since Ignis never went blind like in the original timeline he was able to do research on Ardyn & the Starscourge while Noctis was in the Crystal sleeping. During that 10 years he was able to find a way to defeat Ardyn without Noctis dying.
From what I can gather, Ignis theorized that people with ties to Noct’s family could wield the ring as well, so Ignis made that sacrifice and beat Ardyn to the point where only his demonic corruption was keeping him alive.
1:10 the moment he says crystal the classic prelude starts playing.
That organ Adryn theme thou...
And the thumbnail. Never change it.
I can't figure out if that organ theme has a name.
the theme name is Ardyn IV
Maestro i
did he just....teabag at the fight's opening?
YES xD
I've never been called "your majesty" before, would you do me the honor?
My allegiance lies with the true king alone!
Well then, off with your head!
I love Ardyn lol
I always loved this dialogue, too
“I’m afraid you’re no match fo-“
>falls flat on the ground
>transitions to Ignis getting his ass handed to him???
Living Detritus i know right??? BULLSHIT LMFAO😂
He was t-posing as he said it as well
Quintessential "wins in game lose in cutscene"
It would've been awesome if there was a unique cutscene if you were winning there
7:45 So Ignis unlocks Ultra Instinct and Ardyn is Goku Black with the scythe.
Jaylen Davis pretty much
GAN GAN GAN KACHIDAZEEE-
I said the same thing
He wields the Scythe of Etro. I am impressed.
Ardyn is part of the Royal Bloodline as well so is that Scythe is probably his Royal Arm (Original Weapon).
Ignis, the true main character.
Tchoy Thao pretty much. His dlc is more dynamic than gladio’s and promopto’s
"Ignis is the best character. Prompto is the annoying one but we feel sorry for him in the end . Gladio is nothing special but he has some great ass."
@@demonligma69420 in a nutshell
@@briedriel8133 and even Noctis’ original story felt weak considering he was “ordained by the crystal” as a chosen king. Meaning his sacrifice was already pointless since he was “chosen” he had no real agency the entire time in the game. All that covenant with the gods bullshit was just the divine making him jump through hoops for their amusement. In turn also made luna’s role in the game forced af since she was literally just an overglorified receptionist to the gods.
Fr
Ravus with facial hair..... I've seen it all
He just looks wrong...my fav character of the franchise was ruined by facial hair. It was already bad enough that he got killed offscreen. >_>
He doesn't get killed offscreen anymore tho...
HE LOOKS LIKE CID NAN GARLOND
The Real Gucci
First Prompto now him askfkgjfkfk
He's getting old, what do you expect? Nothing wrong with his facial hair.
Is it weird that I find this ending better than the actual canon ending?
DAPLAY! Basically, everyone does.
Goblin Saltitante TBH I feel the original tied it up a lot better but I can appreciate this.
Eh i actually liked it not being an oh so happily ever after everything, and the darker ending (the true ending) of the main game was in my opinion more impactful and interesting.
Though i won't hate on them getting a happy ending
It is a canon ending!
nah, i love the actual ending. I mean, how did ignis manage to beat Ardyn? Even noctis the true king took 10 years to be able to wield the power to beat ardyn. How convenient. XD
Ardyn doing the teabag of victory so early!
7:38 honestly thought this was a multiplayer dlc
Lmaoo
So ignis is a badass that saved everyone. I️ could see it.
So Ignis legit went from smart cook to daddy. #goals
This fight was surprisingly difficult my first time around. I couldn't figure out why no matter what I did, I couldn't seem to do enough damage to Ardyn in time. Turns out I just needed to get really good at those counterstrikes, lol.
7:38........ Why is Ardyn teabagging the ground
He's just doing his pre-battle squats.
Never skip leg day, kids.
He thinks Ignis is a casual
He's FURIOUSLY CROUCHING
Because you already lost
Ignis: I'll sacrifice myself to protect Noctis, and use this powwer even if it kills me
Ardyn: *proceeds spamming the crouch button
in his last breath, Ignis says he has discovered a new recipe
7:40 Ardyn doing a teabag
Does anyone take notice of Ignis' reaction when Ardyn reveals his true name?
"THE FOUNDER KING" ??
My theory is that Izunia (not confirmed) stole Ardyn's name and take the throne. Logically, to steal name you have to be identical in appearance. Thus, Izunia and Ardyn is most likely twins.
Rasdan Could be. In a sense that story may have a Cain and Abel dynamic ( one brother was praised while the other walked the earth in exile with a blackened soul.) Perhaps that theory could be proven when Episode Ardyn comes out this year.
I hope then that Ardyn does some serious light and shadow work for to stop being a almagam of demons and insteads transforms to a whole being by actually taking responsibility.
And then he can go kick Ifrit's butt for causing all the nonsense in the first place.
if you guys watch the new episode Ardyn trailer, Somnus Lucis Caelum looks strangely like Noctis.
we will know it soon. The trailer for Ardyn DLC is online now :)
@@justsomedudeontheinternet1998 Somnus is the founder King. We know it now.
This ending is so better then the FIRST.
Man this game...this game despite all his flaws still makes me look it up after months since i started it this february (now it s March) of this year, i really hope one day we will get something new for these ffxv characters because they are amazing (not all of them ofc)
little funny nod at the end. You can clearly read from lips that Ignis says "Your Majesty" as he said before to ardyn he having only 1 true king after Ardyn asks him to say "your majesty" never noticed that before
Gladio’s voice breaking...my poor heart.
I know. That shit kinda hit me hard..
Welp this just goes to show that apparently if ignus did one thing different he could've saved the damn world. So really we should blame the rest of the game existing as it does in ignis. Like wow everything wouldve been better.
Wait.....7:40 did he just tea bag Ignis?!? 😆
ryuuotaku35 yep. In his full fledged glory lmao 😂😂
Gotta get your pre-fight squats in
Holy heck that's some dark souls type disrespect
Neko Nomica *points down*
He said "git gud"
Another theory as to why noctis could have suvived in this ending is because not only did ignis had more time to prepare for that day but also the fact that noct was not trapped into the crystal by ardyn but willingly went in and had more time to master the ring so he wouldnt be killed but the one factor that adds it up in my view is that one more blood price had to be paided for the ring to be powered and partially weaken the star scourge ignis refused to let fate take the life of his bes friend and ignis was the one who payed the final blood price rather than noct.
Everybody it's not the good, it's the bad end because Ardyn still lives in the "other world" and when Noctis dies he cannot defeat Ardyn because he'll be weak and old...
Ignis sacrificing his life to have the power of the ring reminds a lot of a persona awakening the only missing thing is I am thou thou art I XD
ferdyX93 *well yes. thought of that too*
A bit of a shame that Ignis receives no new weapons/moves upon receiving *the power of 13 OP magic-using kings* and only gets a stat boost and visual changes. They're damn cool visual changes, but...
Why would he receive a new weapon? The royal arms are only linked to noctis because he’s related to the Kings, and he can call upon them through a soul bond as cor stated. When Nyx wore the ring he didn’t get any new weapons.
The ring can amplify the power of an individual, but it’s true power can only be unlocked by the chosen king
Late for this but the ring only held the souls of 13 Lucian kings.
5:00 So it WAS Ardyn’s brother who took the throne from him!!!
tbh. I dont think his brogher "took" his throne. I imagine Ardyn as a blacksheep of the family. He accepted the task to help eradicate the scrouge, in repay for the throne, but he asorbed it. I dont remember it saying the Astral task him to absord it, just but rather just repel it? Anyway, I would prerfer Ardyn just a psychotic jealous lil bro than just a tragic fallen-hero like what happened to Itachi... Ardyn is best as being a villain.
Nicolas to bad he's a fallen hero still
A fallen hero, yes, but hopefully not tragic. Like giving him a sob story. Let him remain an assholli he is lol
Nicolas
Wasn’t Ardyn a “healer of the people” as he called himself when he revealed his name to Noctis? Would that make Ardyn the Oracle of his time? I always imagined that Ardyn was chosen to be the first king, and was the oracle at the same time, and the gods were like “WHOOPS WE FUCKED UP. EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE DOING GOOD DEEDS AND HEALING EVERYONE YOU CAN’T BE KING ANYMORE.” But that’s just how I imagined it. I guess we will finally (hopefully) have our answers when Episode Ardyn comes out.
Yeah..he could be an oracle too. And after his corruption the Astrals then decieded to give the title of king (and crystal ) to his brother at the same time give the healing powers to the Tenebrae maidens. in a way, they really ereased him from history as if he never existed of made some helping progress...
Another question to mind is the there's 114kings in 2000 years???
That's ...alot of third parties for just this one DLC.
*while fighting back tears*
*Selects sacrifice my life*
*Gives Ardyn everything he has*
Guest composer Yasunori Mitsuda and alternate timelines, they went full Chrono Cross.
I like how Noc went for Inigis and didn't feel any pain or sadness of his beloved Wife that just die...or she live
Kou Yang noc has that cute dark haired girl.
He had pain and sadness for his wife, that's what he mean by "can't save the one he love", he refers of Luna and almost Ignis, that hurt him to not have been able to to be the one to save them
Way better ending. Feels like an actual Final Fantasy rather than greek tragedy. Alas, we got what we got. Shame.
I straight up busted out into TEARS the second I saw Noctis on the throne in the last bit of this ending
Classic Yasunori Mitsuda. The soundtrack is somewhat reminiscent of Chrono Cross and a little bit of Xenogears. I hope the next Final Fantasy the composer will be Yasunori Mitsuda again. I really love his music
And I also hope all of the episodes will be integrated in the main game with the missing ten years, the alternative ending becoming the main ending, and additional episodes for Luna, Ravus, and Ardyn, episode for the King's Glaive and also be integrated to the main game. I know the possibility is very slim but theres nothing wrong in dreaming lol. With these moves, I think they can finally redeem this messy game. As it currently stands, it is not enough. If they can provide the additional episodes and integrate it with the game, Im willing to buy it once more.
I didn't know Ardyn wore Mascara, he must cry a lot for it to drip on his face lmao
Hardy Joe it's the blood of the daemons inside him.
Garland Garrison you know that reminds me of Vayne solidor when the occuria took him over, looking like a wrestler on steroids with mechanical wings coming out his muscles, lol...
I like this ending, but it goes against everything the entire story had been building up to
SpeedDemon1152 I don't know, but I think this verse is about "what if we did not follow the fate and changes it?" Rules meant to be broken you know.
@@adamazmi6340 so pretty much what 13 verses done before XV became the total opposite?
5:26 Dancing Mad plays or the Omen from FF6. I am so done. Ardyn is Kefka
Kevin Hernandez Done with what?
I don't think Ardyn is anything close to Kefka. Kefka just wanted to destroy everything because he felt like it. Ardyn is just being a crybaby.
Hey,you idiots,stop comparing Ardyn to Kefka.Ardyn is a villian with class,Kefka is pathetic scarecrow.
@@remylov661 Kefka is Joker's copycat,a bad one.
Funny to think that the DLC route is the good ending to FFXV and the main game is the Neutral/bad ending route
LowHPComics you mean true ending to the original game
@@ernestobustos5718 more like the rushed edited original ending. the original had 4 endings planned and 2 entire story missions / areas that were cut due to coding / bugs that could not be completed before the set release date, hence the odd dlc. this stuff is not secret and was in nearly every game news site when the game came out. So don't be a salty dick m8
Ignis was the main character, change my mind.
*TEAM RECIPEH*
I have to say,episode ignis is the best dlc so far imo
5:07
Ardyn: I'm afraid you're no match.
Ignis: *K.O. in one hit*
5:12
Ardyn is pissed that Ignis goes off script
I think after this ending tabata is going to add insomnia as free to explore
That would be so awesome
Sad part that it's already coded into the game and will still can't go there. What this game could've been. Dude was not the best guy to direct this game.
The undestroyed Insomnia, thanks to the Governor-General Ravus. The negotiation scene back in Altissia is important
The FFXV DLCs had one destined path and explained what happened during those sections of the story left unexplained. This one however showed what could’ve happened, beyond the normal path and into the many possibilities. I’d like to think Ignis’s alternate ending was the true ending. Would there were a way to expand upon this concept...
Tbh, I never really was fond of ignus as a character and always viewed his roll as weak. Oh how wrong I was. This dlc gave hlne such a new outlook on him. And he looks badass with his hair down lol
7:38 Ardyn shows dominance by t-bagging in front of Ignis
Man I knew Ardyn was evil, but teabagging at 7:39 before the battle's begun, that's a whole new low.
This ending is way better with everyone being alive noct Ravis and ignis having his eyes back
Agreed but I kinda have to wonder, is Ardyn truly dead in this ending since in the original, Noctis had to "die" and follow him to the afterlife with the spirits of the kings to finally destroy him (my interpretation),
TheAdventGamer Nope. Just as Ardyn said, it has stopped him for now but he'll have his revenge.
Ignis doesn't have his eyes back, he still loses them after using the ring. Literally the only thing that changed is the fact that Ravus survives. Also it's not really an alternate ending, more like and alternate way to the same ending. After the scene where they enter the palace and Ravus gives him the sword Noct still has to fight Ardyn and sacrifice his life to stop him.
But I thought it was necessary for Noct to be trapped in the crystal and then later sacrifice his life anyway? I mean, otherwise the gods wouldn't have said that it's his destiny. And the very end with Noct sitting on the throne and Ignis stnding in front of him has to be something like the last camping scene or the scene with him and Luna at the end of the main game, because it's day outside which would mean that Noct has to be dead at this point, meaning that it can't happen in reality, meaning that Ignis' eyes being healed never happens in reality either.
I'd like to ask you where you get the evidence from that Noctis never had to die and Ardyn was just leading him to believe so. I'd also like to know how Ardyn made it possible for the Crystal to absorb Noctis in the first place. I'd also like to know what exactly Noctis was doing in the Crystal in the original storyline, I mean he spoke to Bahamut, that always seemed like evidence to me that his time inside the crystal was necessary to fulfill the task set for him by the gods. And didn't Bahamut himself say that Noctis needs to be sacrificed? Or was that an illusion by Ardyn too? Then what about the time where Bahamut was summoned for the fight against Ifrit? Also, if Noctis really didn't enter the Crystal, if the fight against Ardyn played out completely different, then why didn't we see any of that in the alternate ending? Why only stuff that seems insignificant instead? Maybe because the stuff that was shown was actually the only stuff that changed?
I'd also like to say that, if this what-if ending is actually the true good ending, then this sucks. Presenting us a better ending than the one players worked for, that the players went through the entire game to achieve. Why would you even bother doing it if you as the player can cause something much better to happen? Of course the journey to the ending would be fun, but you'd also lose all investment in the characters' motives, and thus any investment into their personal story. If it would've been only Ravus who gets a different fate in the alternate timeline, then I would've been fine with it, but this...
Also, Ravus can pull off the beard. He just needs a haircut and a bit of a trim.
7:35 Ardyn doing some Final Fantasy VII style sit-ups to prepare for battle XD.
Did... Did Ardyn just BM Iggy at 07:40 ???
How awesome would it be that by the time the PC version comes they would incorporate all of the DLC into the main game itself - including this choice from Episode Ignis. The only problem would be that this choice would contradict episode Prompto (and the whole train sequence would not happen). But with some slight changes it could be made to work. "Play along" could mean that Ignis would just pretend to be an agent for Ardyn until Chapter 13 and all the events from the train and episode Prompto could still happen. Only Chapter 13 itself would have to be changed (again :D) to show the fact that Ravus is still alive and together with Noctis and Gladio is trying to save Prompto while Ignis betrays Ardyn and fights him.
The whole thing could be patched into console versions too of course for those who have the season pass. This would essentially give a true second ending to the game depending on your choices. It would be glorious....
Knowing that this is most likely not the true ending makes me a little upset. It's like seeing something nice in a store then finding out it was just plastic.
If the original game this kinda characterization and story it would be the classic it should be.
I have many mixed feelings about this alternate ending...
It just makes Ignis seem kinda... like the protagonist? He is taking over the roles of everyone? He is the one who gets taken to Zegnatus Keep instead of Prompto, he has this whole oath thing going on like Gladio and he gets to wield the ring like Noct? Don't get me wrong I like Ignis but this DLC just maked the others seem so insignificant. It kinda takes the group thing
It’s to show how loyal ignis is to noctis. Prompto is loyal but he kinda just stays out of the arguments. Gladio argues with noctis and gets mad at him for being selfish after Luna dies and ignis goes blind. Even then ignis takes noct’s side and stands by him.
Which if you watched the anime then you also see how close ignis is with noct, he practically raised noctis since his father wasn’t around much. Gladio and prompto are noct’s brothers but ignis is the true big brother to noctis
that is some insane fanservice for ignis fans
Ardyn is my favourite character ♥️
I like the alternate ending more than the normal one...
I like this ending a hell of a lot more than the actual one
5:00 Reinhardt is here!
Just imagine if the season 2 dlc pass wasnt cancelled ahhh
You can sign a petition to change it
Ignis looks pretty good with his hair down
The fact that noctis needed 10 years to defeat ardyn in combat while iggy only needed the full power of the ring..
Fr bro
Did ardyn just T-bag Ignis at 7:39?
Having Fate/Gilgamesh flashbacks here!!
What stuck out to me was how Noctis addressed Ignis- in the original, it's "Ignis-", but here, it's "Iggy" :3
Ignis is one tough mad lad. Here he goes risking his life against one of the most powerful people in the game whilst wielding unfathomable power while constantly suffering being turned to ash and powering through several degree burns, still being able to keep a straight face.
Love how Ardyn is understandably pissed about this. Like, the crystal literally chose this nobody over him
Nah, the Kings of Yore found Ignis worthy of their power.
So here's my take on this ending. During the fight with Ignis, Ardyn was severely weakened and lost most of his powers. He was more than likely gone for several years regenerating his physical form, meaning he couldn't absorb as many daemons over the years Noct was absent, making him even weaker.
I believe this leads into the alternate battle against Noct, Ignis, Gladio, and Prompto in Episode Ardyn. In this timeline, the royal retinue reach the Citadel and meet Ravus, who promptly gives Regis' sword to Noctis. Ardyn was approached by the royal retinue, along with Ravus.
Being weaker than in the regular timeline, he could only use his power to render one of them unconscious, he chose Ravus, seeing that he was the second most powerful after Noctis. Ardyn, at this point, realizes that there is still no way he can take Noct, Ignis, Gladio, and Prompto all at once. So he leads Noctis to the streets of Insomnia, hoping to weaken Noctis before the other three get there. But the other three ultimately descending the Citadel and joining the fight. And in the end, they were able to defeat Ardyn.
But this still has a big question, why doesn't Noct have to sacrifice himself here? Well think of it like this. Ardyn gains his powers from daemons, he loses a portion of that power if he takes damage, those demonic powers are what grants him immortality. So with that said, he ultimately lost so much power being battered by the the king and his retinue, that he was became mortal once more. And Noct was able to kill Ardyn, and by extent, the daemons within him without sacrificing himself.
But there's another big question, why didn't Noct just kill Ardyn while he was on the ground in the regular timeline? Well that's because nobody knew Ardyn would lose his immortality if he was weakened just enough. Well, everyone except Ardyn. And Ardyn at that point used what was left of his power to retreat into the crystal, forcing Noct to sacrifice himself. But in this timeline, somebody (more than likely Ignis) figured out that Ardyn could be rendered mortal if he was weakened.
And why didn't Bahamut mention this information to Noct? Well that's because Bahamut didn't want Noct to live. But this wasn't to satisfy Ardyn's thirst for revenge, it was because Bahamut was afraid of Noct's power. In this DLC, it does say that Noct would gain the power to rival the gods. And throughout the entire timeline of FFXV, Bahamut was afraid of those that could overpower him. He was afraid of the daemons' power, he was afraid of Ardyn's power, and afraid of Noct's power. Bahamut needed Noct dead to retain his power and influence over humanity. As selfish as motives go, Bahamut truly care about humanity, just himself.
And that is my take on the circumstances of both of these timelines.
Is it me or did I see Ardyn T-bag after Ignis put the ring on.
"It's a good thing that I believed him"
best mom of eternity: Ignis Scienta