Great video James. Decision made on the big Joe. Accessories are key for me. Seen a few great ones on your other videos. Basket on rotisserie, for example. Brilliant. Thank you
For my family size of 3 with occasional family gatherings, Class III and a side gas powered Blackstone Griddle has been working perfectly. Regardless size, you cannot go wrong with Kamado Joe grill. One my best purchases I've ever made for life. I purchased Weber grills many years back, and after the Kamado Joe with the side Blackstone griddle, I had to dispose all Weber grills. The flavor and the charcoal heat source is amazingly easy to control once you get used to it. So much fun, and it's so efficient. After use, we always throw sweet potatoes and potatoes to the charcoal and closed the air, and we have the treat using the exhausting charcoal heats to avoid the heat waste. ;-)
Wow, thank you so much for breaking down all this information versus which proper size Joe to get. I have been searching everywhere for the right explanation and breakdown of all these kamado joe's and yours has been the best breakdown. Thank you so much once again
Fantastic video James...... I really think you have the "comparison" process down pat, in this and several of your other videos... which is incredibly helpful for all of us grillers out here.... you are a great resource and your way of presenting is spot on - keeping it simple... and my wife agrees, "size matters".....LOL!!
That was really helpful. I've been pondering this question for over a year with regard to which to buy for the cottage . Been mostly worried about charcoal consumption and the heat up rate with the big Joe. I have the classic at home. Its so much fun and so versatile. New one will be the Big Joe though! Thanks.
I really appreciate this video. Thank you. Very helpful for me. I’m a current large BGE owner at my primary home and no need to change it out. I have a vacation home now & already convinced to purchase a KJ but now am convinced to purchase the Big KJ 3 thanks to your video. Very helpful. My biggest concern was time to temp and performance. You answered both and will be getting the flame gun as well. Thank you!
After your Joe Jr video and this, I think I'm going to get the Joe Jr now, and save for a big boy next spring. The Jr can probably do most of the single protein stuff I need, but I also like to do sides and all that when I have the space. Oh, and I used to have a large BGE, so I understand where you're coming from!
Thanks for the video, great detailed approach. I have the XL Big Green Egg and I certainly glad I choose the bigger option. That extra grill space is always welcomed. Cheers!
@@mikesavicky503 I absolutely love it. Bigger was certainly the right decision. I have more cookers than I should. KJ is my absolute favorite. So versatile.
I put on a funny face when you said disadvantages of either one lol. I got the classic because of the price and space/weight. I'm happy with my classic 3. I agree can't go wrong with either one.
Totally agree on needed space - my only regret with the Classic 2 was not getting the Big Joe first! Fortunately I now have a Big Joe 3 coming soon and I just get to keep both!
I understand what your are saying about the economics and efficiency, But I think you can’t go wrong buying the most you can afford. That said one has to factor in accessories as they don’t come cheap but they do make these grills so enjoyable. These grills are truly the best you can get right now IMHO. Thank you for an objective approach.
I just bought a KJ Classic 3 and found your channel with a search. Great videos, I'm learning a ton from your content! Thanks and can't wait to see what you do in the new setup!
Great video, thanks!! Oh, also, can't wait to see more about the new grill / video station. Also love to hear more about how you prep food when you bring it home (ie. i think I remember hearing you say in one video that you dry brine chickens when bringing them home, and seal them up in a vacuum seal for later. Love to learn more about that.
James, I want to thank you for all the information you have been giving out to all of us. You got me leaning to buying a big joe 3. I wasn’t even thinking about going that way. Your videos are very informative. I have a question about Smoak firewood. Do you think Klin dried BBQ firewood loses some of the smoke flavor. Compared to natural wood
Thanks Larry, happy to help.... the big joe is my favourite, if I could only have one thats the one for me. It is less smokey but thats not a bad thing, the wood if at all wet is not good smoke so while its less smokey id say this is what you want. Either naturally seasoned or kiln dried is what i use
I appreciated your thinking on this video (as usual). AND I'm really looking forward to your upcoming videos covering the design and construction of your new space!
Greetings from Texas! I'll be receiving my classic 3 tomorrow and I can't wait to do my first cook! I've been learning a lot from your videos. Thanks brotha! Definitely going to put that knowledge to use soon!
I have a big joe 2, and I love it! My brother is interested in getting a kamado now and he doesn't know which size to get. Perfect video for him, thanks!
Great video! I waffled between the big joe v classic for a few years and ultimately pulled the trigger on a big joe II once it went on sale. Really glad I have the extra space and I am usually cooking for ~4 people.... glad I don’t have to play Tetris to make all my meats fit!
I only have a Classic III. The Big Joe is definitely cool, but two things I dont think you mentioned that are factors for me: the Big Joe has a larger activation barrier. What I mean is that I am much more likely to fire up the Classic for just a side dish or a couple burgers. Big Joe-no way its worth the time to fire it up for little stuff. The second reason: I dont want to further tempt myself to eat meat all the time. I value the limits the Classic puts on me and the effects that could have on my health. Lastly, I’d rather have two Classics than one Big Joe. That level of granularity appeals to me. You could have the rotis going on one and sides in the other. Two seems more flexible than one.
I’ll echo what others have said, you can’t go wrong with either. I have the Classic 3 because soon it’s just going to be me and the wife at home, and we don’t need to cook huge amounts of food. If my kids were still young and in the house, I’d go with the Big Joe. Either way you go, I think you’ll be more than satisfied.
Excellent video...Great info too! I’ve been agonizing over which one to get and have never seen a side by side plus vs minuses done so well. Only problem is the big Joe is out of stock right now. Hopefully it won’t be soon and I’m going big Joe for sure! Thanks again
I've been researching this for the last 3 days! My order is in for the Classic but been debating on if I should go Big. This will help. Amazing timing on the video, Thanks!
Great comparison, unfortunately I bought a classic 3 which I love and cooks great. But after seeing this video I'm wanting that increased cooking space! :)
I am really happy with the suggestion you gave me to buy the BJ 3. I have it for over a month now and could not be more happy. I only have some issues with overbite of the lid, but that is being attended to. Also really looking forward to know your plans and learnings for the outdoor cooking space. We get ours in September so hopefully I can use your learnings in finalizing the plans.
I had a bunch of guests for Independence Day weekend and tried to cook 15# of chicken wings on my Vision kamado which is the same size as BGE L and Joe Classic…almost had wings falling off and it took way too long. I had several hangry guests by the time dinner was served. This convinced me that the Big Joe or BGE XL was needed and I’ll keep the Vision for smaller cooks. I’m selling my 22 year old offset smoker which has been great, but Big Joe 3 arrives next week so time to move on.
congrats on your new Joe... the sloroller gives you the entire grill space which makes either model seem larger. when i had a large BGE it too was 18" just like the classic but the plate setter was 15" so managing the hot spots reduced the useable grill space to about the same as a medium egg. one thing i noticed on KJ is how much more i could fit on the same dimensions
I found a relatively local bbq supply shop whose website had Kamado Joe Big Joe III arriving in stock this week and shipping by next week. I pulled the trigger and now have some buyers anxiety(not really remorse). I really hope I don't regret spending the extra for the big joe. We are a family of 4. I like to entertain in non-covid times. On my weber performer kettle, I end up wishing I had more space, but that is mostly because to do indirect I only had half the space. I went with the big joe to have the same amount of space.
@@SmokingDadBBQ I’ve been having anxiety about the decision. Unfortunately I got a call from the shop that there was a shipping issue on their end and it won’t be available for 2-3 weeks. Still less than some retailers but I’d start justifying the purchase once it assembled at my house.
Hi SDB. I have a large green egg. I crafted a very nice table with a granite top. Would like to move to Komado Joe Classic III but wondering if the size is the same to fit in my cutout hole. Thanks love your videos
Thanks James. I got my joe jr. and it’s indeed as you said, the weekday workhorse and amazing sear station. Now I’m saving for a bigger KJ and I think I will go for big joe. Btw here in the Netherlands KJ is 2199euro while big joe being 2899, both series 3. So the price difference is smaller than in the US that makes it even more worthy to get a big joe!
Thank you for your help!! I am now sure I will go for the big joe 3. Bye the way I am a big fan from your channel ! Greetings from Belgium and keep up the good work🙂🙂🙂
I have been waiting for this video comparison. But after watching I am still uncertain which size to get. I love grilling for my family but usually do not grill for more than just my family (5 people). I have been leaning towards the classic but your recommendation for BJ makes me worried I will regret it. Thanks so much for the excellent content!
James, awesome video as usual! Quick question, one thing you didn't mention was the weight of the BJ3 vs the Classic3. I tend to move my current BGE XL around to different areas of the yard depending on weather and it is tedious. I have looked up the weight differences between the two and it's not insignificant. Would love some more feedback on how easily the BJ3 can moved around and its' mobility in general.
Great comparison review. I’m upgrading from medium BGE I have had for 8 years and honestly is just too small. Although the kids have all moved out, I do like cooking more than less meat when I go to the effort. I think the 4” extra for Big Joe 3 is not necessary for me, and I would not cook sides on it. However not having the slow roller seems like a disadvantage on the Classic Joe. (Understand you can add it for $250.). I also have a Traegar 1300 Timberline at the other house and love the convenience, even though everyone prefers the true smoke flavor from the BGE. I saw your review of the Konnect Joe and was thinking maybe this was a good compromise. My concerns on that choice is the lack of slow roller and also smaller size. (It’s still not clear to me what size the Konnect Joe most compares to in the non electronic Kamado Joes.). I know you have them all, and it’s always hard to say, but if you were going to pick one, and money is NOT the driver, what would you pick for someone like us? Always appreciate your input.
I am loving these comparison videos. I have a suggestion for another one. Can you compare the airflow of Joe Jr vs. classic and big Joe (without the Slo Roller). I at times I cook small boston butts and brisket-flats and these meats can fit both my Joe Jr. and classic. My gut feeling is even if I cook them at the same temperature, classic will probably have a better airflow compared to Jr, hence, the flavors will be better. But that is just my guess. Who knows, I might be completely wrong and Joe Jr. might have better airflow. With Joe Jr. prices going down a little bit in the last few months, I feel a lot of people have gotten a Jr. recently. So this video might be a useful one for many smokers.
I will say that feeding a Big Joe for cooks that aren't smoker temps is a legitimate first world problem :D But seriously, I had to decide between a Big Joe 2 and a Classic 3 over a year ago and I don't regret buying the extra real estate, and seriously anybody who spends 1700$ on a grill and then complains about burning 5$ more charcoal needs to turn in their man card
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and just now subbed... man I thought I was subbed already. I have a icon pro I got for free but an looking to upgrade because my fire box is cracked and this grill was rusted out when I got it so efficiency is terrible. You have me sold on the joes I love the set up. I can’t imagine what I could do if I had a grill that was worth a darn.
Great video!!! A few months ago I chose the Classic three for all the reasons you stated and couldn't be happier!!! There is a slight learning curve from other smokers but In never have a cook where we don't have fun!! Question....Slo Roller vs Heat deflectors....do you think there is a difference in bringing up the temp and maintaining it between the two? I seem to have more of a challenge using the deflectors than the slo roller but I have never had a bad cook...unless I messed something up!!!
I have the classic ll and have been very pleased, but always wished it were larger. Recently came across a sale on a BJ lll for $1869!! Pounced on it and wouldn’t look back
Thanks for this video and all of them you have done in the past. All of your info has helped with my kamado growth. I have the classic I for under a year and love it. The model III looks amazing. Planning on to put in an outdoor kitchen but wondering the diameter of the Big Joe base. I reached out to Kamado Joe and didn’t hear back.
Great information ... It sounded like you indirectly mentioned one other con of the Big Joe 3 ... The space and real estate it would require! For some that won't be an issue, but for someone who perhaps has a small deck for example, the size differences between the two might be a consideration. I did like the idea about the Joe Jr for sides. Perhaps the Classic 3 maybe a great addition if they already own a Joe Jr inside of jumping up to the Big Joe 3?
it is really handy having the two (classic and jr), thats nice since it adds portability to the mix. if i could only have one and thats it though, it would be the big joe
Of those two, the Big Joe is the proper choice. The two negatives I'd give it are: 1. If you're just throwing on like 2 burgers or something you're going to feel really silly considering how much space you're wasting 2. Its price is ridiculous... but I would say this about KJ in general. My 22" kamado (which includes the Slow N Sear Platinum bundle of the Slow N Sear, EasySpin grate, and Drip N Griddle pan, which sells separately for like $280 or something) plus all the Kickash accessories for it - including the Kickash Divider I've never even used - costed me the same as an 18" Classic III, and the Big Joe is about $700 more than that. When you get to the price tier that the Big Joe III sits at, you may as well consider real premium options like the Komodo Kamado lineup.
@@MrMarnold6 SnS Deluxe Kamado, a 22" kamado designed around the Slow N Sear developed for the Weber kettle (so basically any accessory that works in a 22" Weber kettle will work in it as well).
I have a big family of 6 and often invite extended family, in-laws, and/or friends over for a cookout. Would you recommend a Big Joe 3 or a classic 3 accompanied by a Joe Jr? I’m even considering a big Joe with a Jr.
Ugh! Still can't decide between the two. Right now I have a 55cm Weber. The Classic Joe is 45cm, The Big Joe is 61cm. The price difference is €800 so yeah... I'm using it mostly for chicken, ribs, steaks + some vegetables, and smoking 1.5kg salmon side. Also planning to use it for pulled pork etc. Household of 2 adults + 1 child, having sometimes people over in the weekends. Cheers from The Netherlands!
you can fit a large brisket (17lbs) on the classic with some creativity (drape it over wood chunks for example) and the raised grid accessory adds a lot of useable space. I prefer the big joe as it makes full meal cooking much easier but for 3 people the classic i think could manage just fine
@@SmokingDadBBQ thanks for replying! I'll probably end up with the Big Joe. I know myself too well. When I purchase something I want "the best", or I don't purchase at all. Also, I think it's better when a BBQ is too large rather than too small
@@SmokingDadBBQ Final question! I have a Big Joe in my shopping basket, about to press the Checkout button... Do you need to fill up the entire basket when cooking? You mentioned putting in a little (Joe Junior basket) bit for the test...
Double check on the shelves for the Classic 2s. I just got one via Costco (in the states) and my Meater box's magnets grab onto the metal of the side shelf quite well...
there is metal inside but they might have changed from plastic which is great. The website still says that the side shelves are plastic - www.kamadojoe.com/collections/grills/products/classic-ii
Great video! Thanks so much!!! The plan is to entertain but sometimes will be a small group of 2 or just a fast searing, will the big be too much? Or i can do for small cook too? Thanks
Your due diligence is incredible! I don’t know where you get all the time, unless this is your full-time gig? Thanks for all of your great information it saves us a bunch of time!
(I have a BGE but I think what I’m about to say still applies) One factor that drove my decision to get the Large over the XL was the increased cost of accessories. Deflector plates, grates, charcoal baskets, EVERYTHING costs more. If you have a big family or have gatherings though the extra cost is likely worth it.
good point. thankfully the big Joe comes with most everything (grids, basket, deflectors etc) but the two add-ons I like (soapstone and JoeTisserie) are 30 and $50 more than the large size to your point
Great comparison to help those getting into the kj family. Love my grills! I do when I had the big joe but the combo of classic, junior and kettle is awesome!
Hey there, Great informational review, love your sincere and rational approach to each model . Question, what is the interior diameter of the classic and big Joe? the Big Joe's big price , is it partially due to the extra accessories that come "With" the smoker or are there just more available "after purchase " accessories. THANKS.
Hmm, one thing I did not take into consideration was getting it through the garden gate (I won't fit)!! I'm going to have to take the lid off to get it in my garden and into my shack. Disclaimer alert, these things are very, very (stupidly) heavy....... I have the Big Joe II and it is a MONSTER!!
I think you just explained why I have such a difficult time keeping a stable temp on my kamado komodo. It is very well insulated. At 700 I can put my hand on the top and it only feels warm to the touch
yes this is true of the broil king keg, blaze and even the summit to some extent which are more efficient at the cost of smoke taste / rings compared to the series 3
Go big or go home! The larger half-moon cooking surfaces are a major advantage. Often I do 2-zone cooking and the Big Joe provides plenty of surface area for each zone.
Go Big everytime. Only two adults in our family and never regretted going for the big Joe. I can make it 'smaller if I want to but I can't make it bigger (already have an expander even for the Big Joe)
1) James, what are your thoughts on using a chimney starter in place of a grill torch to get your coals up up temperature quickly? Do you think there is a danger of cracking your fire box if you dump the hot coals from the chimney directly into the basket? 2) You hinted at it, but if you don't have to buy a pit controller for the BJ3, the difference in price between it and the CJ3 becomes less punishing.
I just bought a kamado joe classic 2 and i like it so much. I'm still learning and you're video are really helpfull.Did receive the dojoe too, can't wait for the week end for some pizza! I did notice that you can get the sloroller for the classic 2, did you recommend it ? Thank you!
I don’t have a series 2 to compare it too but I understand you lose out grid size and headroom as the grill itself is 4” shorter. part of the advantage of it is gaining the entire cooking surface, reducing it seems to negate some of the benefit
James...I was gifted a Classic 1 for my 50th birthday. I do have a question... are the Classic 3 and Classic 1 the same size and will the same accessories work with each other? Thank you and I enjoy watching your channel!
Looking to get a Kamado Joe so I can do burgers and steaks on charcoal with a good sear. I already own a Recteq 700 with the side smoke box. Most smoking will be done on the recteq. Would you recommend the classic or big joe in this situation. 80% of cooking is for 2-4 people with the exception of holidays like Mother’s Day and 4th of July.
you can fit a large brisket (17lbs) on the classic with some creativity (drape it over wood chunks for example) and the raised grid accessory adds a lot of useable space. I prefer the big joe as it makes full meal cooking much easier but for 3-4 people the classic i think could manage just fine
Hi Dave.....I am considering a KJ Classic III rover the Big Joe III.....Price is the big issue....My question, we cook a lot of whole turkeys during holidays and I am wondering if a KJ Classic III would accommodate a 15-17 lbs whole turkey.....or should I have to go to the Big Joe III....thanks for any help or suggestion....there is just me and my wife, but holidays are a big thing for us
Thank you a lot from Belgium for all the informations... May i ask you 1 question ? how long do both kamado take to be at a good temperature if you heat them in a ''normal'' way? Stéphane
Thanks for this video and all of your others. Black Friday is right around the corner and I think you just convinced me to buy the Big Joe. My first question is does the sloroller cook better on the Big Joe III than the Big Joe I or II due to the Big Joe III’s longer shape? Also, do the accessories for the Big Joe III fit the Big Joe I and II? Cost vs Benefit is the reason I’m asking. Thanks so much for your input!
it’s like riding a bike with bigger wheels it’s at speed more stable. the classic is darn stable too, I wouldn’t say it’s not easy to use, the big Joe is just that much more stable a fan controller is not needed
This is a 'point in time' comment for sure... but worth noting that Big Joe 3s are severely backordered. If you decide on the Big Joe 3 you may have a longer wait before it arrives!
The only way you’re getting 5 spare or Babybacks on that Classic Joe III is if they come from a squirrel. 18 inches way too small for anything and $2500 on Big Joe is hard sell to wife. Settled for 22 in Kettle Joe instead. Happy with purchase.
@@SmokingDadBBQ ha! I stand corrected! It’s possible! But I still stand by my position (though exaggerated for laughs). Until I saw the Classic III in person, I thought it was much larger. Wish they had a size in between 18 & 24 in Ceramic. 22 in Kamado @ $1800 -$2k is sweet spot imo.
You forgot that the accessories for the big joe are more expensive. I bought my Classic II because I was not all in on being a replacement for my gasser and being my primary grill. I have a family of five and if I had to do it all over again I would go with the classic size. If the price difference was 200-300. I would have gone big but it’s not.
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Great video James. Decision made on the big Joe. Accessories are key for me. Seen a few great ones on your other videos. Basket on rotisserie, for example. Brilliant. Thank you
For my family size of 3 with occasional family gatherings, Class III and a side gas powered Blackstone Griddle has been working perfectly. Regardless size, you cannot go wrong with Kamado Joe grill. One my best purchases I've ever made for life. I purchased Weber grills many years back, and after the Kamado Joe with the side Blackstone griddle, I had to dispose all Weber grills. The flavor and the charcoal heat source is amazingly easy to control once you get used to it. So much fun, and it's so efficient. After use, we always throw sweet potatoes and potatoes to the charcoal and closed the air, and we have the treat using the exhausting charcoal heats to avoid the heat waste. ;-)
A new grill space. YES. Just YES James. Literally cannot wait.
you and me both
I have the classic, but if I were to do it all over again I would’ve gotten the big Joe… For all the reasons you stated… Great video
awesome cheers David
I’m just glad I don’t have to decide. Both definitely have their advantages.
haha the best decision is all of the above lol
Wow, thank you so much for breaking down all this information versus which proper size Joe to get. I have been searching everywhere for the right explanation and breakdown of all these kamado joe's and yours has been the best breakdown. Thank you so much once again
Thanks. Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic video James...... I really think you have the "comparison" process down pat, in this and several of your other videos... which is incredibly helpful for all of us grillers out here.... you are a great resource and your way of presenting is spot on - keeping it simple... and my wife agrees, "size matters".....LOL!!
hahah yes it does, cheers
You summarized perfectly why I went BJ3 over CJ3. There is nothing this thing can’t do and do well.
Looking forward to seeing your outdoor kitchen!
thanks Brian, cheers
That was really helpful. I've been pondering this question for over a year with regard to which to buy for the cottage . Been mostly worried about charcoal consumption and the heat up rate with the big Joe. I have the classic at home. Its so much fun and so versatile. New one will be the Big Joe though! Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! cheers
It looks like that you already have an epic backyard James, but the new extension is going to be the cherry on top. 😎👍🏻
thanks Ken ... looking forward to it coming together
Thanks for your video content, I just ordered a big Joe 3 . Greetings from Adelaide, South Australia.
I really appreciate this video. Thank you. Very helpful for me. I’m a current large BGE owner at my primary home and no need to change it out. I have a vacation home now & already convinced to purchase a KJ but now am convinced to purchase the Big KJ 3 thanks to your video. Very helpful. My biggest concern was time to temp and performance. You answered both and will be getting the flame gun as well. Thank you!
After your Joe Jr video and this, I think I'm going to get the Joe Jr now, and save for a big boy next spring. The Jr can probably do most of the single protein stuff I need, but I also like to do sides and all that when I have the space.
Oh, and I used to have a large BGE, so I understand where you're coming from!
Another great comparison of the KJ grills along with the pros/cons between them!
thanks Matt
I'm excited to see your grill space, and what ideas you have found are best. I'm in the midst of designing my own so the timing on this is impeccable!
That is awesome!
Thanks for the video, great detailed approach.
I have the XL Big Green Egg and I certainly glad I choose the bigger option. That extra grill space is always welcomed.
Cheers!
Thanks for watching! agree I’ve never regretted the space
Just picked up my KJ C2 yesterday, where was this video a week ago :) Love the content keep it up!
Awesome! Thank you! congrats on your new grill
This video couldn't have come out at a better time as I was debating between the two-Big Joe for the win. 🤙
awesome. cheers
I had this struggle 2 years ago... A former coworker correctly guided me to Big Joe
@@rmagala awesome! How are you liking it?
@@mikesavicky503 I absolutely love it. Bigger was certainly the right decision. I have more cookers than I should. KJ is my absolute favorite. So versatile.
@@mikesavicky503 it was my best friend during the pandemic
I put on a funny face when you said disadvantages of either one lol. I got the classic because of the price and space/weight. I'm happy with my classic 3. I agree can't go wrong with either one.
i was reaching deep to try and think of 'disadvantages"
Totally agree on needed space - my only regret with the Classic 2 was not getting the Big Joe first! Fortunately I now have a Big Joe 3 coming soon and I just get to keep both!
congratulations
I understand what your are saying about the economics and efficiency, But I think you can’t go wrong buying the most you can afford. That said one has to factor in accessories as they don’t come cheap but they do make these grills so enjoyable. These grills are truly the best you can get right now IMHO. Thank you for an objective approach.
cheers
I just bought a KJ Classic 3 and found your channel with a search. Great videos, I'm learning a ton from your content! Thanks and can't wait to see what you do in the new setup!
Awesome! Thank you! congrats on the new Joe
Great video, thanks!! Oh, also, can't wait to see more about the new grill / video station. Also love to hear more about how you prep food when you bring it home (ie. i think I remember hearing you say in one video that you dry brine chickens when bringing them home, and seal them up in a vacuum seal for later. Love to learn more about that.
Will do! yes I mostly dry brine everything and then freeze it vac sealed
James, I want to thank you for all the information you have been giving out to all of us. You got me leaning to buying a big joe 3. I wasn’t even thinking about going that way. Your videos are very informative. I have a question about Smoak firewood. Do you think Klin dried BBQ firewood loses some of the smoke flavor. Compared to natural wood
Thanks Larry, happy to help.... the big joe is my favourite, if I could only have one thats the one for me. It is less smokey but thats not a bad thing, the wood if at all wet is not good smoke so while its less smokey id say this is what you want. Either naturally seasoned or kiln dried is what i use
I appreciated your thinking on this video (as usual). AND I'm really looking forward to your upcoming videos covering the design and construction of your new space!
Awesome, thank you!
The video we didn’t deserve but that we all needed. Well done James!
Thanks, cheers
Greetings from Texas! I'll be receiving my classic 3 tomorrow and I can't wait to do my first cook! I've been learning a lot from your videos. Thanks brotha! Definitely going to put that knowledge to use soon!
congratulations
I have a big joe 2, and I love it! My brother is interested in getting a kamado now and he doesn't know which size to get. Perfect video for him, thanks!
Sounds great! cheers
Great comparison. I absolutely
heck yes
Can't wait for my Big Joe to arrive in about a month!! I'm also anxious to see your outdoor kitchen plans, as that's on my bucket list as well.
Congrats, can't wait share more
I have no regrets on the big Joe mine is old but I love it. I wish I had a Jr. for small cooks for. my wife and I. Take care Thanks
that is the way to go for a second. perfect pair
Great video! I waffled between the big joe v classic for a few years and ultimately pulled the trigger on a big joe II once it went on sale. Really glad I have the extra space and I am usually cooking for ~4 people.... glad I don’t have to play Tetris to make all my meats fit!
Thanks for sharing! 100% agree
Tetris lol
Now, if only you could find the big joe anywhere. Great video. Super helpful in my decision.
Glad I could help!
Chose the Big Joe Classic 3 over the Classic 3. Absolutely no regrets!
its my favourite
I only have a Classic III. The Big Joe is definitely cool, but two things I dont think you mentioned that are factors for me: the Big Joe has a larger activation barrier. What I mean is that I am much more likely to fire up the Classic for just a side dish or a couple burgers. Big Joe-no way its worth the time to fire it up for little stuff. The second reason: I dont want to further tempt myself to eat meat all the time. I value the limits the Classic puts on me and the effects that could have on my health. Lastly, I’d rather have two Classics than one Big Joe. That level of granularity appeals to me. You could have the rotis going on one and sides in the other. Two seems more flexible than one.
I had the twin classics last year and I did love that especially since my accessories were interchangeable
Great video. I have had the KJ classic 2 for several years and I have been thinking about making the jump to the Big Joe 3.
its my favourite, if i could only have 1 that would be it
I’ll echo what others have said, you can’t go wrong with either. I have the Classic 3 because soon it’s just going to be me and the wife at home, and we don’t need to cook huge amounts of food. If my kids were still young and in the house, I’d go with the Big Joe. Either way you go, I think you’ll be more than satisfied.
well said. cheers
Excellent video...Great info too! I’ve been agonizing over which one to get and have never seen a side by side plus vs minuses done so well. Only problem is the big Joe is out of stock right now. Hopefully it won’t be soon and I’m going big Joe for sure! Thanks again
Glad it was helpful! Apparently everyone has the same idea and they are hard to find as a result.
Thank you Im so exited ...My wife if getting me the Big Joe III 🥰
congrats
I've been researching this for the last 3 days! My order is in for the Classic but been debating on if I should go Big. This will help. Amazing timing on the video, Thanks!
Glad I could help!
Went with the Big Joe. Ha. Thanks again.
@@atifrana917 good. I did the same and zero regrets plus think I would have regretted a classic!
I wonder how many of these KJ has sold because of you!!! I will be getting one soon!
wish I got a cut lol 😂
Love my BigJoe2 for the exact reasons you mention. Having said that, I am considering adding a Joe Jr. :)
its nice for travel and short mid week cooks .. a big and the jr is the perfect 2 grill combo
thanks for this great review! this will definitely help choosing between different Kamado!
Glad it was helpful!
Great comparison, unfortunately I bought a classic 3 which I love and cooks great. But after seeing this video I'm wanting that increased cooking space! :)
I am really happy with the suggestion you gave me to buy the BJ 3. I have it for over a month now and could not be more happy. I only have some issues with overbite of the lid, but that is being attended to. Also really looking forward to know your plans and learnings for the outdoor cooking space. We get ours in September so hopefully I can use your learnings in finalizing the plans.
Great to hear! perfect timing. mine should be done in a month
I had a bunch of guests for Independence Day weekend and tried to cook 15# of chicken wings on my Vision kamado which is the same size as BGE L and Joe Classic…almost had wings falling off and it took way too long. I had several hangry guests by the time dinner was served. This convinced me that the Big Joe or BGE XL was needed and I’ll keep the Vision for smaller cooks. I’m selling my 22 year old offset smoker which has been great, but Big Joe 3 arrives next week so time to move on.
congrats on your new Joe... the sloroller gives you the entire grill space which makes either model seem larger. when i had a large BGE it too was 18" just like the classic but the plate setter was 15" so managing the hot spots reduced the useable grill space to about the same as a medium egg. one thing i noticed on KJ is how much more i could fit on the same dimensions
Great info, it differently threw me off when you weren’t in the regular studio!
haha for a short while
Love the video! Such a hard decision, if the price difference wasn't so radical it would be easier to jump for the big joe
its definitely cause for some heartburn at first.. but after your first low and slow it starts to drift away
I found a relatively local bbq supply shop whose website had Kamado Joe Big Joe III arriving in stock this week and shipping by next week. I pulled the trigger and now have some buyers anxiety(not really remorse). I really hope I don't regret spending the extra for the big joe. We are a family of 4. I like to entertain in non-covid times. On my weber performer kettle, I end up wishing I had more space, but that is mostly because to do indirect I only had half the space. I went with the big joe to have the same amount of space.
congrats... you made the right choice. thats my favourite
@@SmokingDadBBQ I’ve been having anxiety about the decision. Unfortunately I got a call from the shop that there was a shipping issue on their end and it won’t be available for 2-3 weeks. Still less than some retailers but I’d start justifying the purchase once it assembled at my house.
@@kevinrutledge9602 th-cam.com/video/qH0wxZlpoQ8/w-d-xo.html will make you feel better lol
Hi SDB. I have a large green egg. I crafted a very nice table with a granite top. Would like to move to Komado Joe Classic III but wondering if the size is the same to fit in my cutout hole. Thanks love your videos
Thanks James. I got my joe jr. and it’s indeed as you said, the weekday workhorse and amazing sear station. Now I’m saving for a bigger KJ and I think I will go for big joe. Btw here in the Netherlands KJ is 2199euro while big joe being 2899, both series 3. So the price difference is smaller than in the US that makes it even more worthy to get a big joe!
what a great combo the jr and big is
Go big or go home. Can never have too much grill space :) Look forward to seeing the new space!
You and me both!
Loved this Joe vs Joe battle!!! Very insightful as usual James! Can’t wait to see your new bbq space!! 🔥🔥🔥
Coming soon!
Thank you for your help!! I am now sure I will go for the big joe 3. Bye the way I am a big fan from your channel ! Greetings from Belgium and keep up the good work🙂🙂🙂
Awesome! Thank you! greetings
I have been waiting for this video comparison. But after watching I am still uncertain which size to get. I love grilling for my family but usually do not grill for more than just my family (5 people). I have been leaning towards the classic but your recommendation for BJ makes me worried I will regret it.
Thanks so much for the excellent content!
Thanks for watching!
James, awesome video as usual! Quick question, one thing you didn't mention was the weight of the BJ3 vs the Classic3. I tend to move my current BGE XL around to different areas of the yard depending on weather and it is tedious. I have looked up the weight differences between the two and it's not insignificant. Would love some more feedback on how easily the BJ3 can moved around and its' mobility in general.
the cart rolls well, i have no problem moving it around on my own... if you need to lift it thats a different story as its something like 450lbs
Great comparison review. I’m upgrading from medium BGE I have had for 8 years and honestly is just too small. Although the kids have all moved out, I do like cooking more than less meat when I go to the effort. I think the 4” extra for Big Joe 3 is not necessary for me, and I would not cook sides on it. However not having the slow roller seems like a disadvantage on the Classic Joe. (Understand you can add it for $250.). I also have a Traegar 1300 Timberline at the other house and love the convenience, even though everyone prefers the true smoke flavor from the BGE. I saw your review of the Konnect Joe and was thinking maybe this was a good compromise. My concerns on that choice is the lack of slow roller and also smaller size. (It’s still not clear to me what size the Konnect Joe most compares to in the non electronic Kamado Joes.). I know you have them all, and it’s always hard to say, but if you were going to pick one, and money is NOT the driver, what would you pick for someone like us? Always appreciate your input.
I am loving these comparison videos. I have a suggestion for another one. Can you compare the airflow of Joe Jr vs. classic and big Joe (without the Slo Roller). I at times I cook small boston butts and brisket-flats and these meats can fit both my Joe Jr. and classic. My gut feeling is even if I cook them at the same temperature, classic will probably have a better airflow compared to Jr, hence, the flavors will be better. But that is just my guess. Who knows, I might be completely wrong and Joe Jr. might have better airflow. With Joe Jr. prices going down a little bit in the last few months, I feel a lot of people have gotten a Jr. recently. So this video might be a useful one for many smokers.
good suggestion
Great review. Thanks for your honest pros and cons and hope to get some more help now I’m subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
Also, really looking forward to the new grill area as I’m planning one myself soon!!
You and me both!
Love your videos thanks for the content, quick Q what gloves do you use?
I will say that feeding a Big Joe for cooks that aren't smoker temps is a legitimate first world problem :D
But seriously, I had to decide between a Big Joe 2 and a Classic 3 over a year ago and I don't regret buying the extra real estate, and seriously anybody who spends 1700$ on a grill and then complains about burning 5$ more charcoal needs to turn in their man card
haha there is an old car dealer saying .... "if you have to ask about the MPG, you can't afford the car" lol
I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and just now subbed... man I thought I was subbed already. I have a icon pro I got for free but an looking to upgrade because my fire box is cracked and this grill was rusted out when I got it so efficiency is terrible. You have me sold on the joes I love the set up. I can’t imagine what I could do if I had a grill that was worth a darn.
thanks Joshua
Love the content and the info. Helps someone in the market for a kamado grill!
Glad to help
Great video!!! A few months ago I chose the Classic three for all the reasons you stated and couldn't be happier!!! There is a slight learning curve from other smokers but In never have a cook where we don't have fun!! Question....Slo Roller vs Heat deflectors....do you think there is a difference in bringing up the temp and maintaining it between the two? I seem to have more of a challenge using the deflectors than the slo roller but I have never had a bad cook...unless I messed something up!!!
I have the classic ll and have been very pleased, but always wished it were larger. Recently came across a sale on a BJ lll for $1869!! Pounced on it and wouldn’t look back
Where did you find the sale?
@@Moedy1 Contract Appliance Sales in Utah
Thanks for this video and all of them you have done in the past. All of your info has helped with my kamado growth. I have the classic I for under a year and love it. The model III looks amazing. Planning on to put in an outdoor kitchen but wondering the diameter of the Big Joe base. I reached out to Kamado Joe and didn’t hear back.
I am doing a 29” space in my cut out. if you search table plans you can find the diameter if doing a circular cut out
Thank you very much for making this video. Very useful
Glad it was helpful!
Check out a retractable awning. Getting one myself. Helps for the rainy cooks!
good call
Great video as always! I’ve also been debating between the two... looks like the big Joe will win out!
Good choice!
Both of them
a mind after my own heart
That’s about 3-4 mortgage payments lol
Great information ... It sounded like you indirectly mentioned one other con of the Big Joe 3 ... The space and real estate it would require! For some that won't be an issue, but for someone who perhaps has a small deck for example, the size differences between the two might be a consideration. I did like the idea about the Joe Jr for sides. Perhaps the Classic 3 maybe a great addition if they already own a Joe Jr inside of jumping up to the Big Joe 3?
it is really handy having the two (classic and jr), thats nice since it adds portability to the mix. if i could only have one and thats it though, it would be the big joe
Of those two, the Big Joe is the proper choice. The two negatives I'd give it are:
1. If you're just throwing on like 2 burgers or something you're going to feel really silly considering how much space you're wasting
2. Its price is ridiculous... but I would say this about KJ in general. My 22" kamado (which includes the Slow N Sear Platinum bundle of the Slow N Sear, EasySpin grate, and Drip N Griddle pan, which sells separately for like $280 or something) plus all the Kickash accessories for it - including the Kickash Divider I've never even used - costed me the same as an 18" Classic III, and the Big Joe is about $700 more than that. When you get to the price tier that the Big Joe III sits at, you may as well consider real premium options like the Komodo Kamado lineup.
it does look silly with two burgers
Which 22" kamado do you have?
@@MrMarnold6 SnS Deluxe Kamado, a 22" kamado designed around the Slow N Sear developed for the Weber kettle (so basically any accessory that works in a 22" Weber kettle will work in it as well).
I have a big family of 6 and often invite extended family, in-laws, and/or friends over for a cookout. Would you recommend a Big Joe 3 or a classic 3 accompanied by a Joe Jr? I’m even considering a big Joe with a Jr.
Ugh! Still can't decide between the two. Right now I have a 55cm Weber. The Classic Joe is 45cm, The Big Joe is 61cm. The price difference is €800 so yeah... I'm using it mostly for chicken, ribs, steaks + some vegetables, and smoking 1.5kg salmon side. Also planning to use it for pulled pork etc. Household of 2 adults + 1 child, having sometimes people over in the weekends. Cheers from The Netherlands!
you can fit a large brisket (17lbs) on the classic with some creativity (drape it over wood chunks for example) and the raised grid accessory adds a lot of useable space. I prefer the big joe as it makes full meal cooking much easier but for 3 people the classic i think could manage just fine
@@SmokingDadBBQ thanks for replying! I'll probably end up with the Big Joe. I know myself too well. When I purchase something I want "the best", or I don't purchase at all. Also, I think it's better when a BBQ is too large rather than too small
@@SmokingDadBBQ Final question! I have a Big Joe in my shopping basket, about to press the Checkout button... Do you need to fill up the entire basket when cooking? You mentioned putting in a little (Joe Junior basket) bit for the test...
@@Mark-pi7vj no. It will run on much less. A full basket will go about 56 hours
Double check on the shelves for the Classic 2s. I just got one via Costco (in the states) and my Meater box's magnets grab onto the metal of the side shelf quite well...
there is metal inside but they might have changed from plastic which is great. The website still says that the side shelves are plastic - www.kamadojoe.com/collections/grills/products/classic-ii
I plan to bake bread in a Kamado. A natural and not in a a cast iron vessel. Have you ever done that and if so which one is right Classic or Big Joe?
Great video! Thanks so much!!!
The plan is to entertain but sometimes will be a small group of 2 or just a fast searing, will the big be too much? Or i can do for small cook too?
Thanks
Your due diligence is incredible! I don’t know where you get all the time, unless this is your full-time gig? Thanks for all of your great information it saves us a bunch of time!
thanks, glad it feels that way but no i have usually only a few hours on either saturday or sunday to turn these things out
(I have a BGE but I think what I’m about to say still applies) One factor that drove my decision to get the Large over the XL was the increased cost of accessories. Deflector plates, grates, charcoal baskets, EVERYTHING costs more. If you have a big family or have gatherings though the extra cost is likely worth it.
good point. thankfully the big Joe comes with most everything (grids, basket, deflectors etc) but the two add-ons I like (soapstone and JoeTisserie) are 30 and $50 more than the large size to your point
@@SmokingDadBBQ This is true, you do get an insane amount of value from what is packed in with KJ
@@5790cmc yes if you want (I do) those things it’s less expensive vs the a la cart approach
Great comparison to help those getting into the kj family. Love my grills! I do when I had the big joe but the combo of classic, junior and kettle is awesome!
Right on!
Hey there, Great informational review, love your sincere and rational approach to each model
. Question,
what is the interior diameter of the classic and big Joe?
the Big Joe's big price , is it partially due to the extra accessories that come "With" the smoker or are there just more available "after purchase " accessories.
THANKS.
How high off the ground is the Big Joe? I'm 5'1 and that's my main concern.
Hmm, one thing I did not take into consideration was getting it through the garden gate (I won't fit)!! I'm going to have to take the lid off to get it in my garden and into my shack. Disclaimer alert, these things are very, very (stupidly) heavy....... I have the Big Joe II and it is a MONSTER!!
BTW - Nice you getting a new grill area, I built my shack in 2020 lockdown and love it, cooked in the snow, rain, wind etc and I have full cover :-)
if you have spar hands, you can pac man it around a corner with the dome open
I think you just explained why I have such a difficult time keeping a stable temp on my kamado komodo. It is very well insulated. At 700 I can put my hand on the top and it only feels warm to the touch
yes this is true of the broil king keg, blaze and even the summit to some extent which are more efficient at the cost of smoke taste / rings compared to the series 3
Both! Also... nice pool! Have you been in this year yet?
yes we had it up to 95 for spring break lol... it was like a giant hot tub
Go big or go home! The larger half-moon cooking surfaces are a major advantage. Often I do 2-zone cooking and the Big Joe provides plenty of surface area for each zone.
well said
Go Big everytime. Only two adults in our family and never regretted going for the big Joe. I can make it 'smaller if I want to but I can't make it bigger (already have an expander even for the Big Joe)
well said. 100% agree
1) James, what are your thoughts on using a chimney starter in place of a grill torch to get your coals up up temperature quickly? Do you think there is a danger of cracking your fire box if you dump the hot coals from the chimney directly into the basket? 2) You hinted at it, but if you don't have to buy a pit controller for the BJ3, the difference in price between it and the CJ3 becomes less punishing.
I use a chimney in the summer. just not the dead of winter when the ceramics are ice cold
I just bought a kamado joe classic 2 and i like it so much. I'm still learning and you're video are really helpfull.Did receive the dojoe too, can't wait for the week end for some pizza! I did notice that you can get the sloroller for the classic 2, did you recommend it ? Thank you!
I would love to see a side by side comparison of a cook with the classic 2 and classic 3 slo rollers
I don’t have a series 2 to compare it too but I understand you lose out grid size and headroom as the grill itself is 4” shorter. part of the advantage of it is gaining the entire cooking surface, reducing it seems to negate some of the benefit
James...I was gifted a Classic 1 for my 50th birthday. I do have a question... are the Classic 3 and Classic 1 the same size and will the same accessories work with each other? Thank you and I enjoy watching your channel!
happy birthday. yes the classic is the same 18" in all three generations
Looking to get a Kamado Joe so I can do burgers and steaks on charcoal with a good sear. I already own a Recteq 700 with the side smoke box. Most smoking will be done on the recteq. Would you recommend the classic or big joe in this situation. 80% of cooking is for 2-4 people with the exception of holidays like Mother’s Day and 4th of July.
you can fit a large brisket (17lbs) on the classic with some creativity (drape it over wood chunks for example) and the raised grid accessory adds a lot of useable space. I prefer the big joe as it makes full meal cooking much easier but for 3-4 people the classic i think could manage just fine
Hi Dave.....I am considering a KJ Classic III rover the Big Joe III.....Price is the big issue....My question, we cook a lot of whole turkeys during holidays and I am wondering if a KJ Classic III would accommodate a 15-17 lbs whole turkey.....or should I have to go to the Big Joe III....thanks for any help or suggestion....there is just me and my wife, but holidays are a big thing for us
Thank you a lot from Belgium for all the informations... May i ask you 1 question ? how long do both kamado take to be at a good temperature if you heat them in a ''normal'' way? Stéphane
Always wanted to know an answer to this James! Thanks for the info, great video, would you recommend the same if you already have a joe junior 🤔
the big joe and jr is the perfect combo... jr for small family cooks, big for everything else
Thanks for this video and all of your others. Black Friday is right around the corner and I think you just convinced me to buy the Big Joe. My first question is does the sloroller cook better on the Big Joe III than the Big Joe I or II due to the Big Joe III’s longer shape? Also, do the accessories for the Big Joe III fit the Big Joe I and II? Cost vs Benefit is the reason I’m asking. Thanks so much for your input!
yes big joe accessories work across generations
Great videos, thank you! So are you saying that the classic is not as stable or predictable? Just seems as this is implied...thanks for your time!
it’s like riding a bike with bigger wheels it’s at speed more stable. the classic is darn stable too, I wouldn’t say it’s not easy to use, the big Joe is just that much more stable a fan controller is not needed
This is a 'point in time' comment for sure... but worth noting that Big Joe 3s are severely backordered. If you decide on the Big Joe 3 you may have a longer wait before it arrives!
good call out
The only way you’re getting 5 spare or Babybacks on that Classic Joe III is if they come from a squirrel. 18 inches way too small for anything and $2500 on Big Joe is hard sell to wife. Settled for 22 in Kettle Joe instead. Happy with purchase.
this is my IG post showing three - instagram.com/p/B2J429TB68-/?
Don't have one with the extender but it sits on top and holds two more
@@SmokingDadBBQ ha! I stand corrected! It’s possible! But I still stand by my position (though exaggerated for laughs). Until I saw the Classic III in person, I thought it was much larger. Wish they had a size in between 18 & 24 in Ceramic. 22 in Kamado @ $1800 -$2k is sweet spot imo.
You forgot that the accessories for the big joe are more expensive. I bought my Classic II because I was not all in on being a replacement for my gasser and being my primary grill. I have a family of five and if I had to do it all over again I would go with the classic size. If the price difference was 200-300. I would have gone big but it’s not.
you’re right. each accessory is $20-50 more depending on the accessory. the classic is a very capable and a great value