5 Mistakes Foreigners Make Living in Thailand
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- 5 Common Mistakes Foreigners Make Living in Thailand
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I snapped a picture of a Palace Guard, in white uniform. Guard in black uniform yelled "no photo!" jumped in front of Palace Guard. I always try to learn some native language when traveling. I did the Wai, bowed and said, "Kor Tord Krap." His reaction changed instantly. He smiled and bowed back saying, "it's ok." I just can't understand how people can travel to another country and not make any effort to communicate in their language.
Try. If cant try then dont move there. I have a horrible memory so opt for english countries to visit.
Does "Kor Tord Krap" mean "cut the crap"? :)
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Absolutely.
Learning (at least some) Thai is excellent advice. If your Thai is limited - smiles, patience, and respect are pretty much universally understood. Be a good guest, and you'll likely find yourself among good hosts. That's my experience, anyway.
But what if the Thai people are mean to someone for no reason other than being racist and prejudice.
When someone speaks Thai, the country appears to be completely different! Best advice ever! Too bad Forrest is speech impaired, and spends a lot of his time conversing with fellow farangs in a bar. Contrary to popular opinion, beer does not make you smarter! Forrest doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. Is it true “ignorance is bliss?”
1. #LanguageBarrier: Many foreigners struggle with the Thai language, leading to miscommunication and misunderstandings.
2. #CulturalEtiquette: Lack of knowledge about Thai customs and traditions can lead to unintentional disrespect or offense.
3. #VisaIssues: Foreigners often overlook or misunderstand visa regulations, resulting in legal complications or overstaying their welcome.
4. #NegotiationSkills: In markets or while dealing with locals, foreigners may struggle with bargaining or end up paying more than necessary.
5. #FoodSafety: Not being familiar with local food hygiene practices can lead to foodborne illnesses or digestive issues.
and it make it more complicated, you have a mix of Chinese, Burma and other behaviors too. Also, feng shui rules seem unreal at times.
Compared to the Philipps...
1. Most Speak and understand english, Unless they don't want to deal with you.
2.They Have None! Place is more of a Garbage Dump than what you think it is..
3. Maybe about the same but will try to Scam you while doing so to get it "Done Faster"...
4. None Unless you know the Language and they know you from being a regular and seeing you all the time.
5. There is NONE! Don't even bother to wash their hands after Cleaning themselves after a shit with them or anything else nasty they use them for... And/Or depends on how well you know the cook... They actually ReCook Food from the Garbage that/where there is Literal Shit next to it or even On it... Or Piss poring onto it from the Cup they Pissed in..
thank you
Je wrong land Ami go home jou newer can learn it maybe Tagalog bahasa Indonesia but not the fuck chines Thai japanis Korean canot
Paying more hahaaaaaaa me not many thime happens but I call the police and the stop it haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I married a Thai in 2002 and I thought was to stay in Thailand but use my Incline condo as a Vacation home, well it reversed when my wife got to Incline, she stayed for 17 years until I was retired and we moved back, yep march 2020 - the next week the shut the airport during COVID. Now my wife is back in the States( 6 months), trying to work and travel , I stayed here other than ( 2 weeks) I returned for family , and personal business. Back in our house in Udon Thani and still shaking my head about the USA coming aparts at the seems. really sad. Thai - found a Translator has made it better, at 71 its tough remembering languages, have worked all over the world and another language is tough, now translator they like .
You’re saying what all other expats are saying to foreigners who want to come live in Thailand 🇹🇭. Be on your best behavior! A respectful disposition of calm behavior filled patients will be a lovingly reflected respect back towards you in any given situation.
Not jou be rude jou stand on the bathmoney jou burn the money jou take drug there.my adwise just doit know
I totally agree with No.2 I was yelled by foreigner boss. It’s a big impact on me I resigned from that organization. It’s in Thai DNA. If you make it happened, you can get a result that make you stun.
Great advice Forrest, appreciate you taking the time to walk us through those.
Would love to meet those Singaporean and Malaysian Uncles who knows people and get things done faster. Networking is so important in a new place and new environment. Patience is required in Asian countries in order to get things done.
In Thailand is important to learn Thai Language, you will find great difference between foreigner can and cannot speak simple Thai. In Thailand we do not not try to do thing fast, at outskirt, we learn to only do "one" thing a day and stay & rest well.
Can share the contacts of the Singaporean uncles ?
I’ve lived here in Thailand for over 6 years now. Losing/saving face is real, important, and pervasive. It is a lot more and a lot more complicated than just raising your voice or being disagreeable. The huge benefit is that Thai society, particularly in public, is very non-confrontational. People are just nice here. It also has it’s practical downsides but, in general, if you are nice to people they will be nice and friendly with you.
It's also the main reason many problems never get fixed.
I disagree. I've lived here 10 years and I speak Thai. Thais aren't nice - they are trained. Thailand has always been an unfree authoritarian country. Their only freedom is a smile. Americans would NEVER put up with the sh** that Thais have to endure. In the USA, we complain about Politically Correctness and not being able to use pronouns because it's taboo to offend marginalized people. Well, Thailand is worse! lol However, Westerners don't speak the language, they don't know the culture, and they don't know the forced hospitality they get isn't voluntary. This is the reason why Thai women want to marry white guys and get the hell out of the country ASAP. As Westerners, we don't experience this until we stay in the country for a long time. What I love about the USA is that at least we have hope because we have democracy. In Thailand, their Military Dictatorship just stole the election away from Thai voters... again. The only good thing about Thailand is that it's cheap and that it has a BTS. If the USA was cheap, none of us would be here. I find it interesting that Americans complain about "big government" and "biden taking away my rights!" but then they move to a military dictatorship where rent is only $100/mo.
Okey, but way to simple to put it this way. Also very dangerous trying to generalize "People are just nice here". Cultural thing way more compliceted, I guess sometimes it will take even way more than six years here for a lot of foreigneirs.....
I think it is even at the low level/conversation level too. A few years ago, I looked at a property contract and it had all the monetary details with 'bath' instead of 'baht'. It looked like a typo and said so. Instead of anyone correcting me, it was simply not discussed, and the final contract had 'bath'. I thought it was odd. Only later, did I discover that 'bath' is the correct usage. I would rather been corrected at the meeting, but I guess that is not the Thai way.
@@MyBelch Absolutely agree 110%. Sweep it under the rug and then complain about it after...The typical Thai way.
I lived in Thailand from 2006-2013. The biggest regret I have was not taking time to learn how to make Thai food. I could have learned these skills and taken them wherever and for a lifetime. You cannot easily get authentic Thai food outside of Thailand. There's so many things I would like to know how to make. For example, they always have those yummy spice packs at every fruit stall. Nobody seems to know how to make it. Get me a recipe please!
It is a taste inhansing salt also known as sodium or natrium salt in some countries they buy at pharmacy and mix with red chili powder and/or minced shrimp paste.
You can make your own mix regular salt or preservative called sodium salt with red chili powder and just a bit anchovies - mix it all together and there you have it.
PS: they wouldnt tell the rec anybody because some people freak out when find out its pure sodium.
Wat thaifood weeeeeeeee mutch Beter austrian fooood to many chillis
Money transcends boundaries.
A good country allows you to buy property business in your name 100%.
I don't think it's really about saving face. It's more like, you're out there yelling in public, and suddenly, everyone's in this weird, awkward vibe. We're all about that chill, laid-back "sabai sabai" vibe, and when someone starts messing with that and brings in the negativity, it's like, "What do we do now?" It just makes everyone uncomfortable.
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It's 100% about face. Thai people will even tell you this from their own mouth. The concept is taught very early on in schools, from parents, and peers. It can be a very dangerous aspect of living in Thailand if one is bent on verbally confronting people.
@@hagakuruHaving called SE Asia home for 31 years, mostly here in HK but also with stints in Japan and Malaysia - you're completely correct.
If you are hell bent on verbally confronting people, you will have issues anywhere you go. I asked my wife to explain the concept of face to me, she really didn't know what to say...She is Thai by the way. I really want to know on what planet or what country is being confrontational ok?@@hagakuru
No excuse for yelling at anyone! Thailand is about the chill with no disrespect.
Great advice!! Thank you
Wow, this is both fascinating, and a learning lesson for me. I also like how articulate and direct your deliverance is, and I give that a solid 5 star. Thanks!
Thank you Mr. Lee, this is outstanding advice! Love it!
I think those are tortoises. They have no flaps to swim. But I agree with maintaining your professionalism oversea.
Good advice. Thanks for sharing the wisdom.
I am floored when you keep saying in your videos I'm just a dumb Chinese. I think you are very smart delivering valuable information. I don't know if you care but along with making money on TH-cam, you are helping people that are ignorant in the ways of Thailand. You also introduce some very valuable tips on the loss of face by many Asians. I for one learned the hard way that losing face was a real negative when I met my first Japanese Martial Artist. Being a foreigner I had no idea what it was and so my instructor gave be a very short lesson. By the way the action was intentional, but he did spell it out to me. Thank you Mr. Lee for sharing. The lessons are very valuable.
I hope it's humor when he says those things
Great video. Thanks for the info
Another great video my friend, thank you!!!
I enjoy how you articulate the practical benefits of doing things a certain way in Thailand. Thanks for the guidance.
Right...
If you don't know about playing the stuffed envelope game, probably won't get too far over there.
Thanks you for your knowledge! Much appreciated.
these are great tips, i will be spending a few months in thailand and your channel has been very insightful and has great information! Thank you for the effort you put in these videos
Keep the content coming Forrest, very helpful.
Great advice 🙏
Nice and informative video Forrest Lee. This was my first visit to your channel and I appreciate your no nonsense approach. Keep doing what your doing and I will hit that like button and subscribe. Looking forward to your shared wisdom. Thanks
Great information ❤
I like the video quality as of late. Nice location for filming too. Good advice, thanks
Well said and I agree!
man. thank u. u open up my mind n learn a lot. thinking of moving to bangkok in couple years from new york.
Thanks for excellent advice
Thanks for the advice. It all makes sense from what little I know about Thailand
Great tips Forrest!
Great topic sir !!!!
I sub'd cause I like the way you talk and lay it on the line I understand that language 👍👍🤟🤟👍👍🤟🤟
Good video. You have become one of my favorite vloggers.
great show, subscribed on this , thanks
I'm planning to move to Thailand I have started learning 18mths before, only using youtube online classes, but its a start. I hope 18mths of this I will not be completely useless when the move happens. I lived in China for 2yr and business there much longer I understand alot already but always much to learn.
These are very good, Forrest. Thanks!
Great advice thanks for sharing. I have really been considering a longer time in Thailand in the near future and maybe retire there eventually. Easy sub. Hope to learn more from you!
Thank you for the insight its very helpful and appreciated.
Can you please do a video on a learning visa particularly on learning Thai and what schools and or university have classes and very important is the cost and schedule how many days a week. This and anything else im not aware of would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Helpful. Liked and subbed.
Solid advice. I think that the concept for face is generally lost on westerners if they haven't lived in or traveled enough in Asia .
Sometimes it's a dumb concept in my opinion, in China for example the people would rather lie to you about something than tell you they don't know to "save face", how ridiculous huh.
Good advice 👍
Great info Forrest , much appreciated !
Agree on everything but the language, I don’t know. I used to think learning Thai was essential, and made a real effort when I first moved here. I found that mostly everyone I talk to has uni degree / studied abroad and wants to speak English, and could not practice my Thai. In the end I can speak the basics, from talking to vendors/taxi drivers etc which is enough to get by, and my wife handles the rest.
คุณควรเรียนภาษาไทยถ้าคุณอาศัยอยู่ในประเทศไทย Just because you dont need to learn it to enjoy life in Thailand, doesn't mean you're not missing out. Yes many people want to practice but those are the people you notice, the Thai people hanging out with other Thai people speaking Thai are all around you but because you never are a part of that because you don't speak Thai and it would be very hard to include you if not everyone can communicate with you.
The strongest argument against learning Thai is wether or not it is the best use of 500+ hours of studying (that's just for low level conversations, you can spend a lot more time) instead of those 500 hours being work or anything else
@@jaxonmattox9267 yes it would be nice in those situations. I kind of gave up too when I realized I would probably move back home eventually, immigration is to annoying even being married / running business / paying taxes.
You dealing too much with HiSo thai people … plenty of opportunities to speak Thai - just chat with Motorcycle drivers and taxi drivers or out in the provinces … you be forced speak Thai
The best way to know about a country is asking a farang from your home country who has been in country to brief you about the country what to do from personal relationship to business.
Nice efforts to pin the real problems and how to save. Great job, you have very nice presentation capability.
Thanks Forrest. Your vlogs are informative and appreciated.
Very well done. Your advise is intelligent, and your manner of speaking is most appealing.
First time to meet you, great advice, sub/like/shared. thank you.
We love you too my friend. i have only been in Thailand once for World Bank business. i see the attractions all around but you need to set goals for yourself, then you make less mistakes.
There is really only one mistake that can be made. That mistake is being in Thailand for longer than one month.
I visited Thailand, very nice friendly & warm people. Thank u for your advise.
PR visa 5 years continuous tax payment, Local ( country of birth police check )References , interview are now in Thai video taped, Cost is 10kUSD ,takes two years .
Right on target on every point that you made my man .
Very well said.
Dude you content is my favorite. Please make more
new sub here, i like the straight forward content thanks (y)
Very well said
Very nice of you to share this
Forrest, I'm surprised you're not 10kg heavier eating that type of lunch 7:53 - that's enough for like 4 people!
Thanks! Excellent advice. Most of the your advice can applied to most Asian countries.
great advice.
I liked and subbed based on this video. Thank you for the advice as I plan to visit and then move over next year.
You remind a great deal of my best friend since highschool, he too held himself to very high standards that he rose to and exceeded. I would say to you to also give yourself at least a little credit when you succeed and excel. Thanks for your time and effort in making these videos and in helping others. 😊
Facts 💯
I love the idea that you recommend expat to work something they are good at. Thank you Forrest.
Your comments although they are directed at Thailand are all very positive. Good advice for people living anywhere.
Respecting a culture as a means of survival has merit.
Intriguing.
Great video thanks
Good video Forrest! ..btw, how's the pickleball scene in BKK ? 😁
Even I just do visits . I learn some small Thai or anywhere cus I was raised like that.🙏🏼👊🏼💯
Good advice , tanks
Nice café, where is it? Super Video, good VLog 😊
Thanks!
Excellent video. Many thanks for posting.
You're cool! that's helpful! Thank you😊
Thanks for your insight. It seems like good advice.
I wouldn't set my business under my wife's name, let alone a girlfriend... LOL
I think you speak a lot of sense man, some very sound advice there. Can't say I totally agree that losing face would have such a huge impact in such a highly populated place, this one depends I suppose if it was in front of colleagues etc, it's situational.
if i corrected you it might lead you to losing face so i wont )
De très sage et avisé partage Merci 😊🙏
Nice job
Valuable information for anyone planning to retire there. Some are hard headed though.
As for the visa thing. I remember over staying my visa for 4 years. This was way before the blacklist shit started. I just paid the fine at the airport when I left. Came back a few months later. Can't do that now.
Another relevant and informative video. I’ve been to Thailand four times and now am planning to live there. Everything you said was spot on correct.
Except the “Thonburi River! Duh!
Nice informative videos.The same happens here mostly to German guys.
Good solid advice, than Forrest !
Good advise. I hope to gain some wisdom, at least enough to get by on, and perhaps, even enough to flourish.
thank forrest LEE very good idea in this video alert people want to move to Thailand I love it from canada
Great video. Subbed.
Thailand seems similar to Japan; the idea of saving face is huge in the culture. Great videos by the way.
Thank you
Thank you for this info
Thanks for the valuable info. considering moving there... so will be going to visit this coming March 2024.....and make a decision.
Great visa info, thank you
Okay here's some Questions you can answer; #1 a lot of guys come to Thailand with the PLAN to do Border Runs or Visa Extensions, so they don't really want to Book a Return Flight before entering Thailand, but Thai Immigrations states you must book a Return Flight out of the Country before entering Thailand. Yet I see all kinds of TH-camrs who Entered Thailand and stayed for MONTHS, and they never explain how they DID that? So the Question IS, Do They Check to see if you Booked a Return Flight out of Thailand when you Enter Thailand?
You talk a lot about "Living" in Thailand, but I don't remember seeing any Video about HOW YOU DO THAT? I know about the Elite Visa, but I don't have Thousands of Dollars. So how are YOU doing it?
It’s usually certain airlines that require the flight out. You can purchase a one-way flight to Vietnam, but make sure you buy one that is fully refundable. You land in Bangkok and then cancel that flight after entering. If your American you get 30 day visa. You can then pay about $55 to extend another 30 days. At that point you have to either do a border run or fly out and back in to get another 30 days, then you can pay the $55 to get another 30 day extension. You only get two border runs per 12 months so you’d have to fly the other four times to stay an entire year. This is why you see TH-camrs going to Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, for a few days to reset their visa stamp. If you plan in advance you can get a Roundtrip flight to Vietnam for $85, hotels for $18 a night, plus food and partying and your visa is reset.
If you get a visa agent in Thailand, some of them will buy your one way ticket out knowing they will get a refundable ticket and the agent cancels. They do this to get your business. Most expats in Thailand use an agent because it’s so easy and cheap to let them handle things and they guide you.
@@retireinhuahin It's THAI IMMIGRATIONS that require the Return Plane ticket, they want to SEE IT when you Enter Thailand. So my Question is HOW DID YOU ENTER THAILAND WITHOUT A RETURN TICKET?
@@marksawesomeadventures you don’t need a return ticket. You need a ticket leaving Thailand. I flew to Bangkok from Los Angeles, and had a one way refundable flight to Vietnam that I cancelled once I was in country. Philippines is the same way, if I fly to Manila I need a flight out within the visa period, but the flight out can be to anywhere in the world.
@@marksawesomeadventures also, I flew to Thailand on Quatar out of LAX and they required I had a flight out of Thailand which I bought standing st the counter on my phone to Vietnam. Since then I’ve flown back in to Bangkok three times from Malaysia and Singapore and didn’t need a flight out. And I’m flying to Bankok from Singapore again this week and won’t have a flight out. Not sure what the difference is and why it was needed the first time.
Ingratiate often carries a negative connotation, in that someone is only being nice in hopes of gaining something in return. I guess "assimilate" is a better word. The advice given is sill priceless.
not really...its way too early to expect to assimilate from the outset. first step is to earn ''acceptance'' through ingratiating
Isn't this little space also a hotel? They have rooms on the 2nd level
Great advices. Thank you, I like your language by the way.
thanks for great videos
Excellent video..thanks..!