Coleman CT200-U 212cc Build | Mini Bike Predator SWAP | Full Assembly & Riding
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2020
- In this video, we fix the chain on the CT200-U and have to do some mods to fit the 212cc engine. We do a complete engine swap and do some riding with it. The top speed is 27mph with the stock engine. If you have any questions or comments, please leave them below. Thank you for watching and make sure to LIKE & SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss out on another build!
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I just destroyed the con rod on my Coleman's engine, so I used that as an excuse to get a 212 swap. Thanks man.
🤣nice one
What were you doing driving it 75 mph on the freeway? LMAO 🤣
@@ieatbatteries9998 it wasn't a freeway lol
How do you kno if you have a 212 engine on your minibike
@@cfneskii9193 it should have predator stickers or look similar to predator engines. The smaller predators or bigger predators are different a lot in size
Bro I'm doing the same exact swap. This video is so helpful.
Thank you! I have a new video coming out tomorrow as well! About time 😆
Nice job with this. And good comments in the comment section helping others.
Thank you, I want to help as much as I can!
Well you inspired me amazon had 3/4 clutch, spacer washers and clutch bolt. Trimmings the heat sheld idea of yours worked great! Did the same as yours except disabled the low oil sensor and zip tie trick on Governor spring. So thanks again !
Any time! Be careful with that governor trick, don't want to get hurt😵
Will do I back off it besides it isn’t completely disabled get about 4200 rpms limit. Take care thanks again.
Hey bro I’m a little worried you know the wires that you half to connect in order to start the engine? So I connected them properly but I kinda ripped the out side of the connector the bike starts and stuff so as long as it runs then I’m fine? Or could I of damaged the connector and now it won’t last as long?
We did the same thing is was pretty cheap and made this bike pretty fast! Would recommend.
Agreed 👍
I got a question bro so I got the predator 212 I run normal 10w30 and the oil was a little low and I put more 10w30 In it but a different brand is that okay? I’ve noticed lately when I start it it starts up kinda rough I do have a pipe on it and I ride it pretty fast and rough could the valves need adjusted?
Do I half to cut the medal shielding to fit the jack shaft?? Or can I do it with out cutting it?
Damn bro , I only got the 196 that comes in the Coleman had it one day , pulled the govenor out, added a pipe and pz26 carb and she’ll do 40 , can’t wait to get my 212&224 to try out on the frame
Let us know how it goes!
Right on!
Did you put oil in it's sometimes they forget to put oil in em at the factory
Is the bilt hard 7hp more powerful then the predator 212?
Nice video 👍
Thanks!
hey i have a question, did you remove the throttle stop screw when u made this video?
I always remove the throttle stop screw AFTER I broke the engine in. After the oil change I remove it
walt jr builds a bike 😂 nice vid
Can I just remove the shield completely?
hello where can i get the little sprocket from cause i got the same engine but the little sprocket doesn’t fit my chain
What size chain did you buy? Sizes are #35, #420, #40 for mini bikes, which of those did you buy?
what bushing did you use for the chain tensioner
I got a new stock chain tensioner, it was on ebay
So i have a baja warrior and i was wondering if your coleman had a tapped shaft or if it was threaded on the outside? If it wasnt tapped then what bolt did you buy to mount the clutch.
yes they all should come stock with tapped shafts. The coleman and the predator 196/212 have 5/16-24 threads. 5/16 FINE thread, make sure you get -24 and not -18
@@BlakesBuilds Ok did you just like bolt it with a washer or
@@nepaoutdoors8536 yes I did. I use the bolt, lock washer, and another washer to keep the clutch on
@@BlakesBuilds Ok thanks that what i was planning on doing. Thx for responding
Do you need to modify the mounting holes on the motor plate?
On the year of minibike I had, no I was able to take off the old Coleman engine and just slide the new one on with little adjustments
Hey how did you attach the throttle body? I have a Coleman 200-ex not the U
Are you asking about how I connected the throttle on bike to the engine?
Best video if found for this! Thanks man. I’m thinking about doing the Predator 301 swap on mine.. will that be much different?
No problem, and the 301 is physically a little bigger, so you may have to do a little bit more cutting to fit it. I'm pretty sure the mount holes are the same as the 212 though
@@BlakesBuilds thanks again dude. You got me as a subscriber that’s forsure.. I’ll tell my buddy’s about the channel too!
@@vietnagmane3877 you're the best man! I'm trying my best to grow our little community, need all the help I can get.
I like the sound of the 212cc engine better then the 196cc engine it sounds more powerful
Quick question why did you loosen the throttle in the beginning of the video I am new to this and I’m planning on doing the same engine swap and I’m just curious y u did that in the beginning thank you !!!
The brand new engine comes with the throttle screwed on tight, so you want to loosen it up so it isn't full throttle when you try to start it
@@BlakesBuilds thank you !!!
Hey bro so my wife attempted this and now the clutch don’t seem to be going. Was it a 1/2” spacer behind the clutch ? I had it running good and she took it for a ride and the chain fell off and now when you hit the throttle it won’t go. I am for sure it has to do with the clutch.
Do you think you could send me pictures? Do you have Instagram? My account is @blakes_builds
I’m not doing an engine swap but I got one of these and im wondering how hard it is to replace the choke? And if I should just swap engines instead
What's wrong with it? If there's broken or missing parts, it's probably going to be easier just replacing the entire carburetor, they are about 15 bucks on amazon
And do i need to have the 5th bolt holding the shaft? Or Could I get away with just having the 4 bolts holding it so I don’t half to cut the shield ?
You should be fine. I would at least take the shield off and do it that way if anything
@@BlakesBuilds so the 5th bolt isn’t that important?
Enjoyed Video did you have to replace clutch for 3/4” clutch my Coleman is 5/8” off engine thanks
The engine on this one was a 3/4 but it seems that maybe the newer Colemans have 5/8...
The old engine had the 3/4 clutch, but I replaced it anyway because of the age. Let me know if you have any other questions!
Thanks bro my motor did have 5/8 shaft order a new clutch on amazon, I have another ct200 I put a torque converter on it’s great and very fast gps 44 mph but the clutch is so much better for climbing offroad . Take care
Where did you buy the drive system with the tensioner?
I just re-used the one on the old engine but you can find the whole setup on ebay
Did you have to change the chain on the clutch? If not how did you get it back on, so close to finishing th swap but can’t get the first damn chain on
I finagled the chain onto the sprockets. First wrap the chain around the clutch sprocket then pull back the tensioner, then pull the chain partially over the other sprocket. Roll the entire bike forward or backwards to force the chain on. If that doesn't work for some reason, you may be able to find a master link to take off
The way I went about that was to just put the chain on both sprockets before I put the clutch on the engine, which I did before I mounted the engine onto the frame. In other words, I just slid the engine off and onto the clutch that I held with one hand right where it would end up . This way I didn't even have to remove the jackshaft plate from the frame at all.
How fast will the bike go with the jack shaft and a 40 tooth sprocket ?
There are calculators online, I don't know off the top of my head
What type of bolts did you use? Not for the motor mount.
Bolts used for jackshaft clutch plate were 5/16-24 (fine thread) and I think they were 1inch in length but not certain on that
What is that thing called that holds the sprockets and chains on the black plate I need to know I have to order one and I can’t figure out what it is called
You can probably find it if you search "ct200u jackshaft assembly".
@@BlakesBuilds ok thank you I appreciate it
What size was the new chain you used front and back
It’s 420
hey man i was wondering if u could put the jackshaft assembly bolts link it would help out alot just wanna make sure i get the right ones thanks man looking forward to my build
The bolts that put the assembly on the engine can be found at any hardware store, I go to home depot. Look for 5/16 bolts that are 3/4" long and make sure you get fine thread (-24)
@@BlakesBuilds thanks man👍🏻
Hey bro I got the predator 212 on my mini bike it’s saying I half to use a fuel stabilizer is that true ??? I’ve never heard of that . And also is it fine to use normal gas or is it better to use premium?
I've never had a problem with 87 gas and you only need fuel stabilizer if you plan on letting it sit for a month or two
@@BlakesBuilds oh okay no I ride this thing all the time
@@BlakesBuilds and also dude I know this is random but my front tire on it is really low on Tred what will happen if I keep driving it like this? Will it end up blowing loosing air or will it just be uncomfortable to ride?
@@skillchamp4208 you may lose traction depending how bad it is.. I recommend just buying a new wheel off go power sports. You use to be able to buy a custom pair for 35 usd each
@@BlakesBuilds it’s not horrible but the sides are completely bold
Where did you get the jackshaft kit?
I reused the one that was on the old engine
Hey where did you get that jack shaft at? I can’t find one online anywhere
Search "ct200-u jackshaft" on ebay and there is one for $60
@@BlakesBuilds I can use the same jack shaft for the 200 on the predator and be cool? Because I have an old one. Thanks a bunch
@@alfredochikn yes you can re-use everything. If the old engine was a 5/8 shaft, you'll need to get a new spacer before installing the clutch, but that should be all.
What size disc did u have on the back wheel?
I'm not sure, I never messed with the brakes, but it is stock. If you need something like that, I would look it up on ebay
So just to be clear, this can be done in an hour with a grinder and 4 bolts?
I got an uncle with an old Coleman laying in his shed broken for years. I can do this that simple?
Well, grinder as in with a cut off wheel, yes. You will also obviously need the tools for the bolts too. It is really simple and almost a bolt and go process. If you have bad chains, you may need a chain breaker, but they should be fine.
@@BlakesBuilds ok thanks. Yeah I got tools and before I do it, I'll measure the clutch on the old Coleman to see if it's a 3/4 and not the 5/8 that way I don't have to order any parts.
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Can I use all of the old clutch assembly ? And how fast does the engine go without customizing it
Yes you can! When you put it back together, you may need different mounting bolts (the 4 that go in the engine), which are at your lowes or home depot. You will need FINE threads (24), not course (18). May also need to cut the little plate on the engine to fit, which I showed in the video. Top speed was around 30 I believe, no mods.
@Devin Morris true, but you just need to cut the small engine plate, not that bad 🙃
Can you reuse the clutch from the old engine to the 212
If the clutch fits on the shaft of your new engine, then yes of course reuse it. Don't forget to put a little oil on the front of the clutch too so it lasts longer 👍
Do you need the heat shield and we’re did u get the bolts thanks you
I believe the heat shield helps circulate the air better through the fins. I'm not sure if it would harm the engine in any way taking it off. In the video I just cut a square out where it was touching. I get all of my hardware from home depot. Make sure you get fine thread
@@BlakesBuilds thanks and I can reuse the shaft
Would it be worth it to take out the governor before putting the first oil in it
It's not a terrible idea to remove the governor if you're looking for extra power in your motor, BUT you will run the risk of blowing your engine over time. If you want to risk it for the biscuit, you might as well do it without any oil first.
I removed the governer first thing out the box. Its the cleanest time to do it. And well you really dont gotta worry about it once you start modding.. right now my bike the engine is running but i messed up the bolts to mount down the 212 cc. I used a impact drill and messed up the threading on the nut! But ill have a video uploaded once i get that on. And i just ordered an exhaust pipe along with a mikuni so that will also be in the video aswell. 🤘🤘 Safe riding!
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My harbor freight 212cc/6.5 Predator engine has a 3/4” shaft but the Coleman is 5/8”. Did you order a new clutch to fit?
The old 196cc Coleman is a 3/4 shaft I believe, but if you are switching the engine to a 212cc, go ahead and order a centrifugal clutch for 3/4 shaft. It should be 10 tooth for #420/#40 chains
@@BlakesBuilds lucky my 196 had a 5/8 shaft so when I put a tillotson 212 on I had to buy a new clutch
@@Deepfried4skin haha, must be a year difference. This one was a 2016
What kind of clutch kit did you use?
Just regular centrifugal clutch off of Amazon
Oh btw you should try to cut the governor screw off it will unlock a lot of power
Good idea, but also dangerous idea. I build these to sell, so I can't do that or I'd lose half of my customers! Also I would want to do it the correct way- taking the governor out.
Im swapping my Baja 200 soon as i just blew it up. Ill be doing a Predator with a stage 1 kit and bigger sprocket
Lots of torque!
@@BlakesBuilds Hell yeah! And btw, its rlly easy to bypass the governor while youre riding if you just reach below the gas tank and push the lever in. Hold on and prepare for like an extra 10 mph with no tools
@@nepaoutdoors8536 love it my man😆
What size bolts do you use for the chain guard mount?
By chain guard mount do you mean the part that mounts to the engine to install clutch and rear chain to?
@@BlakesBuilds yes
@@dukctape123 I'm not exactly sure the length you'll need, but the bolts are 5/16 - 24. An inch long should work
Hey will I need engine risers wen putting on the predator?
No you don't, unless you will put on a torque converter, then you may need some
@@BlakesBuilds thanks for quick response
The sparks shooting out from the clutch area at around 9:40 to 9:45 imply to me that things may not be that well lined up.
That's a great observation! I actually wondered about that myself, but when the cover came off it stopped sparking. Odd, but great pointing that out!
So the clutch from the 196 won’t fit the 212?
If the 196cc clutch fits on the 212cc shaft, you can still use it. I switched it because I didn't know how used it was before I got it
Run straight chain the jackshaft isn't good for higher speed riding ive seen straight chain to 40tooth sprocket and they are hitting 60 with some light mods
Can I use the same clutch I had on before
If it fits onto the shaft of the new engine then yes you can.
Does it mount on the stock mounts?
Good question, yes it does mount on the original holes. The chain assembly will work as well, but you just have to cut a small part (which I showed in the video) off. The only time an engine will not fit the mounting holes is if you use a much larger or smaller engine. Ex) a Coleman 3hp has different holes because it is smaller. Hope it helped.
Can you send a link for good clutch and spacer for this swap
The clutch is cheapest to get on Amazon. Just get the 10 tooth for a 40, 41, 420 chain. I'm not sure where to get the spacer because I didn't have to get one
Nice Job Man. Im A Beat Producer and I Have a Coleman Mini Bike that Im selling and saving up money 4 a dirt bike. Tbh im thinking bout getting a dirt bike but Mini bikes are so popular than dirt bikes and its a hard decision. im thinking bout either getting a dirt bike or get a little motovox or a monster moto 80cc frame with all parts with a 212cc predator engine and buy zip ties for the gov spring to reach 35 MPH. What you think
I think if you want to go fast, just get a dirtbike. They are much faster than 35 mph and you won't have to do mods to the engine- not to mention they are much safer than a predator with a governor bypass. You will also spend more money over time with a minibike than say, a $1000 investment
@@BlakesBuilds true🤘
Will this work on a ct200u-ex?
Yes it should actually work better on the ex version. I swapped one a while back and it was easier in my opinion.
What size is the clutch spacer ?
This is the spacer:
www.monsterscooterparts.com/clutch-bushing-for-the-baja-mini-bike-mb165-mb200.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjwl9GCBhDvARIsAFunhsn9AX7eKA2osZW8yacQBo51j15_BgDwO9gn6ZDjzvoqCl3bYhuFQ2waApviEALw_wcB
where did you buy your fine thread bolts from
I bought them from home depot, but any hardware store works
@@BlakesBuilds ok thank you
@@BlakesBuilds what are the specs on the bolts?
@@kadenhealey7098 what bolts are you referring to? For crankshaft bolt I always impact it on and mount bolts I tighten until one hand can't do it anymore
Wow man I did the same thing and I loosened the screw and I got a top speed of 45 on mine
You probably had the hemi version of the 212 predator. I loosened the screw as well, was surprised it wasn't faster.
Yeah I got the hemi version
Hey bro my ct200u predator 212 will start but when ever I put the choke off the bike will die on me I got a brand new carb on and everything else Is fine and I got the stock exhaust idk why it’s doing this
Try to let it warm up wherever it will stay running, then switch to run. Sometimes they have a little trouble starting, especially if it's cold out
@@BlakesBuilds no that’s definitely not the issue
@@troyholland3436 did you figure it out?
@@timsolomon8352 I ended up getting a new engine I messed the other one up pretty badly
@@BlakesBuilds I got a question bro so my back tire has a patch in it and it’s been in it for the last 5-6 months and it’s been fine do u think it’ll be bad to have 2 people on it? And you don’t think it would make the tire blow or anything? And also do u think the patch will last for ever ? Or I’ll eventually need a new tire ?
Man dude love your skills i have a question I put a 6.5 engine on mine and now all it does is pop wheelies what can I do to make it calm down a little and not have so much power?
Haha nice man. If you don't want it popping wheelies sit farther up on the seat and it should stay down. If that doesn't work you might have to do some gearing changes
What’s the difference between the predator and factory engine… just curious.
The predator has more power. This was also an old engine, so I wanted to make it more reliable
The predator has way more after market parts
@@JesusMartinez-nb7yd you can do a lot of similar things to both, but the predator can make mo powa
What did you need to buy other than the engine for the engine swap?
With the engine swap you may need a new clutch, but everything should pretty much bolt on from the old engine. That as well as oil for the new engine
@@BlakesBuilds what clutch do I need?
@@BlakesBuilds also what kind of tools did you have to use Im not good at this stuff my fault 😭
@bennichols2764 the easiest clutch would be a centrifugal clutch that has to be 10 teeth and 3/4" shaft hole diameter. I get mine off of Amazon. The tools are hard to say, as it's been a while since I've done this swap...Definitely going to need a ratchet and some various sockets, screw drivers, needle nose plyers, at least a 13mm wrench (or adjustable wrench if you're cheap), and I would recommended using an impact gun to put the clutch bolt on or it may come off if you don't make it tight enough with a ratchet.
I’m buying a Coleman B100 within the next couple days and want to get this motor. I can’t find out if I’m going to need to get a new clutch because I can’t find the size of the shaft on the B100.. so you know that answer?
So why would you go through the trouble of doing all that work and gain nothing. You need to open up the case and remove the governor, remove the air box and replace the carb with a mikuni 26mm and get a bigger piolet jet, install 18LB valve springs and do a basic valve adjustment, Get rid of the jackshaft, flip the clutch and run a chain directly to the rear sprocket.
That was a good example! I did an engine swap because the other engine was old and I was going to flip (sell) this minibike.
I have a Coleman ct200u mini bike which is the same one that showing in this video. Anyways on my bike it has a 196cc I'm thinking of switching to a predator 212cc motor . Any tips ?
why get rid of the jackshaft i have the same bike and wondering why?
@@josephgames5755 more speed jackshaft takes away like 10mph
@@honcho7028 i got the ghost engine and it has the 3/4 shaft,now the clutch spacer doesn’t fit.what do i do?
Hey what did u gain with the swap? I’m new to these mini
I didn't really gain much speed with this. This minibike was not modified because it was just to make some money. That engine was just replaced because it was old
I do recommend doing a hemi 212 swap. That will give you more power than the one I got. Do that with a stage one kit and you're good to go! I have a video on how to do the stage kit by the way
@@bodhihollis yes! I always get hemis now because of that
@@bodhihollis sounds fun! Take that governor out of the original one and mess with it. I love getting "free" engines with bikes
@@bodhihollis yeah probably. Taking the governor out is a straight shot to failure
Do you recommend a torque converter? What will be the main noticeable difference compared to the jack shaft or straight chain?
A torque converter is a lot better than a regular centrifugal clutch. It isn't loud like the clutch, it lasts longer with little maintenance, and it will give your bike a ton more torque and probably 5-10 more mph. I've had one with a torque converter and one with a centrifugal and the torque converter one was more fun.
@@BlakesBuilds with the torque converter will I have any chains installed?
@@BlakesBuilds and is it hard to install for the first time?
@@skillchamp4208 Torque converter is probably 5 bolts total, it isn't too difficult to install. However you'll probably also need spacers for the bottom of the engine because the torque converter Plate would touch the mount plate.
@@skillchamp4208 just one chain from torque converter to back wheel
Parts list?
Can you put a link where I can buy the engine at?
I didn't get it online. Went to harbor freight and bought them for $150 each
@@BlakesBuilds thanks
What city you in ? Do u charge to do swaps LOL ?
What do you mean by charge to do swaps?
I’m in tampa Florida and can do swaps
Tip for removeing engines lay on the ground
Is a 70 link chain long enough for a straight chain or so I need a 120 link?
I'm not sure, I just buy 3ft chains and use a chain breaker for them
@@BlakesBuilds ok another question I’m worried something internal in wrong with my engine or something because with the jack shaft it only goes 19mph and I’ve taken the Throddle screw out I also got a 60 tooth sprocket on it and I thought that was supposed to make it faster and better acceleration and it hasn’t
@@troyholland3436 make sure the throttle arm fully pulls back with the throttle cable. Also make sure it's in the "run" position and if those are good it may just be the jackshaft limiting top end speed. If you did a straight chain it would have higher top end speed.
@@BlakesBuilds I got a new chain I accidentally cut it to short so then I connected it back to the chain so now I have 2 master links connected to hold the chain together? Is that okay? Or will it mess it up?
@@troyholland3436 Yep, that's fine. Make sure you put the opening of the master link facing away from the engine because that will make sure they don't come off.
i made it go 58 mph, btw you should have bought a torque converter to make it faster
Future video will be one with a torque converter! 58 is wild, must have removed governor?
I have a 10t 41p clutch from tractor supply. Would that work
I don't know what the 41p means, but as long as it is a centrifugal 10t clutch you're good
Also, if you wanted to know where to get the bolts, just go to your local lowes or home depot or local hardware store.
Yeah i found the bolts at an autozone
Where did u buy the washer?
For behind the clutch
How did you get 27 mine tops out at 23 with the throttle screw all the way out
It could be a variety of factors:
-Is it a 212cc engine or the original 196cc?
-Bearings in the wheels could be old (doubting)
-New clutch or old clutch?
-You could just weigh more than me (I am 145lbs)
-Tires could have less air than mine
-Different gps speedometers
Hope that helps!
@@BlakesBuilds 212 brand new everything new clutch wheel bearings brand new I wash just over 110 new rear tire a little softer than the front but another thing is I think stock rear sprocket it has a lot of torque so that might be why I might have to go down some teeth but what I’m planning on doing I just ordered them tonight I got a 0.63 jet and a performance air filter for the bike I hope that gives me atleast 3 or 4 mph do you think I would have to adjust the idle or anything like that after I drop the new jet in and an the elusion tube or whatever it’s called idk if mine has it but could I use the stock one with the new bigger jet also ?
@@ninjaxgaminggamingchannel3082 I can send links for all of that and you would probably save a lot of $$. I always order an air filter & custom jet combo for I believe 34 bucks. I recommend an exhaust pipe as well if you're doing the full stage 1 upgrade and want to be loud as hell- usually $30- 40, depends on pipe. You do not need to mess with the emulsion tube, just CAREFULLY replace the screwed in jet with the jetted one. Then, take out the plastic idle screw and gently pry out the black plastic jet and replace just how you found it, make sure the jet is sitting like it was stock! Screw in the idle screw until it touches the throttle piece. You will need to adjust the idle screw for the best idle when you start it up though. With a stage 1 upgrade, you should be looking at 30mph, or in your case, around 27mph. If you want higher top end speed, find a good sprocket that fits the chain, but with less teeth, that will definitely give you gains. Let me know if you need anything else!
@@BlakesBuilds ok thanks so much will let you know how she runs when the parts come in and see if there’s a speed difference
@@ninjaxgaminggamingchannel3082 I look forward to hearing from you!😀
What size is the clutch for it
For all 212cc Predator engines, the size is 3/4. I ordered a #40/41/420 3/4 centrifugal clutch from Amazon. I can send a link if you would like.
@@BlakesBuilds may you send me the link
@@LoloLolo-wq9bs www.amazon.com/dp/B01D4L6OSI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_imm_t1_6eq.Fb7B2MNMZ
@@LoloLolo-wq9bs this is also the brand I use for all of my builds🤩
I thought that the predator 212cc go around 45 mph??
That depends on sprocket size, if the governor is removed, bearings, tires etc
You can purchase one at 25 mph , so what's the point of this?
If you have an old model, replacing the engine with a new predator is more of a preference thing. Or if the engine you have doesn't work anymore people do it then
Do you need a new clutch
If your original engine has a 5/8" shaft size then you will need a new one, with 10 teeth. If the original engine has a 3/4" shaft then you will be fine re-using it
Mine has 1 chain buy his has 2, whats up with that? Seems to run fine tho
Some people switch the chains to single chain drive, that's not a big deal.
Cmon bro u couldn’t say the clutch thing didn’t work from the old motor to new 212 really important to mention these things man
It depends on how new it is. The one I used did work on the new one but I replaced it anyway. The engines now have a smaller shaft so yes you need to get the 3/4 clutch
@@BlakesBuilds thanks bro
What size the clutch is
3/4"
Yours might be 5/8"
How much faster will it go with this engine?
If compared to the other engine it's about the same top speed wise unless you get a torque converter or upgrade the engine. You will get better acceleration and the engine will be more reliable with the 212. However if you're looking for speed over those things I would just remove governor and upgrade the old engine, so if it blows up its not a big deal
@@BlakesBuilds do u think the 196cc engine will last long?
@@BlakesBuilds so if I bought a whole new engine it’s not gonna effect the speed much??
@@BlakesBuilds the only problem man is with the bike I have I can’t remove the jets because there stock I ordered a kit 1 a while ago but had to return it when I found out I can’t use it because I can’t remove the jets
@@skillchamp4208 this is a 196cc correct? You could put a mikuni on it if you wanted. Works better with governor out though.
Aye
Can you draw a map?
What will taking out the governor effect on this engine
Taking out the governor will make the max rpm higher so you can go faster. I don't recommend doing it unless you don't care that the engine could blow up. If you want speed it's definitely a way to go though
@@BlakesBuilds ur fine to remove the governor on stock valve springs, rods don’t start to break past 6k but it floats at 5400, so just don’t keep it at max rpm too long.
@@draimen3371 I agree with you, don't hold it full throttle for long and you won't break a flywheel/bend rods
why dont you make it one chain and you’ll top out at like 50mph
It is much easier to do it with the two chains that it already has. I wasn't trying for speed on this one anyway, but I don't think it would go 50 mph with that set up.
With the jackshaft taken off and a govenor bypass it does about 42 topped out with 200 LBs on it, the jackshaft takes away from the topend but gives more torque to climb hills and rocks easier
@@BlakesBuilds currently putting a fully built predator on we will see what happens
@@minibikesarenotacrime153 sounds fun, let me know how it goes!
@@BlakesBuilds you have an instagram i can send you a picture
Why you ain’t just make it one long chain instead of two and plus it’s gone go way faster
"Ain't".... really?
I would rather not spend any money to make money on this bike. I had a link lying around, so it was easier this way
You mean eliminating the jackshaft and just driven from directly the clutch front sprocket and how much speed gain ? Would I get
@@ninjaxgaminggamingchannel3082 If you take off the jack shaft, you will need a longer chain. It would probably work, but I am very doubtful because there is a chain tensioner there for a reason. I think the chain would have a more likely chance to fall off. If I were you and wanted more speed, sell the mini bike for $400+ and get a faster dirtbike with gears for the same price, or just trade one.
@@ninjaxgaminggamingchannel3082 Others have run that way with the chain going from the clutch directly to the rear sprocket on these Colemans. Yeah you get mid 40's MPH but it takes forever to get there. You lose a lot of low end so forget about low speed trail riding. 5/1 gearing is not good on these bikes.
Bro do u know what I could do I kinda need help rn I have the straight chain with the 60 tooth sprocket the speed is pretty good it goes 45 and the acceleration is decent but I’d like it to go faster I was thinking of putting the 50 tooth back on with the straight chain but the acceleration is bad what could I do to make it go 55-60mph but still have decent torque and keep the straight chain?
Torque converter and 50 tooth sprocket
@@BlakesBuilds ok and if I have the straight chain and 50 tooth sprocket and if I’m going over 50mph do I need a billet fly whell or anything to protect the engine from blowing up?
@@troyholland3436 not unless you have the governor removed
hey can you drop a link for those bolts?
Which bolts exactly are you talking about?
@@BlakesBuilds the fine ones for the 212
for the thingingy for the engine to the gears
@user-fy3gk8vc6z I know they are going to be 5/16-24 or 5/16 fine thread. You can find them at home depot or Lowes, and I'm not sure on the length for those. You may just want to get a bunch of different length bolts and try them, they are cheap to buy as well
Why swap the engine? Money is better spent on a CVT, intake, exhaust, and rejet if you want to go fast. Better low end as well.
This was an older model and I wanted this bike to be a reliable flip for money. I would have gone that route if I wanted to have more fun
@Maxxamus ORourke the easiest way would be to do a stage 1 kit (exhaust, carb jets, air filter). You could also make it go much faster with a different sprocket set up.
@Maxxamus ORourke the torque converter is the clutch. If you put that on, then you will just need a chain for the sprockets.
@Maxxamus ORourke the chain should be a 40/420 chain if you have the stock back wheel sprocket on. For the torque converter you need to use a 10 tooth sprocket on the jackshaft
I forget whether the chain is 420 or 40, but Google should tell you.
Can you just send me every thing you had to get outside of the motor
You really don't need much with the engine. You will need 4 screws for the clutch set up, which I believe I said in the video
27mph that’s it?
Mine is bone stock and will do 25 with my 300lb ass on it..
My phone GPS could have been off. Also, I didn't get a hemi for it. In my opinion, the hemi 212s go faster
@@BlakesBuilds
I’m gonna have to get one👍🏻
@@marximusinkstorm I would want a smaller sprocket, which brings more top end. I forget if this one is a 72 or 60 tooth though
3:17 WTF
I love the smell of new engines
@@BlakesBuilds ya i can tell (:
My stock 196cc is hitting 28 there no way
That's great! Maybe put a stage 1 kit to make it even faster.
governer removed?
What socket sizes for those engine mounts bc none of my tools are working
The 4 engine mount bolts should be 13mm, unless you have a model I don't know about with other sized ones. These were the size on mine
How exactly did you hook up the throttle cable to the carb with the stock linkage?
I think I showed it in the video, the engine has two Phillips head screwed between the gas tank and air box, there is a nut to loosen the throttle arm. The throttle arm should be able to move all the way back and go back towards the gas tank when you let go. The metal part (tip) of your throttle cable goes on the first clamp with a Phillips screw holding it. The second Phillips screw holds the cable. Make sure the throttle itself is completely back so you get the most cable as possible and make sure you have a nice fit that isn't too tight or too loose. You might have to play with the tension based on preference. After that you are good to go! I added an extra spring for safety, but you don't have to
@@BlakesBuilds Thank you so much I was wondering, I am doing this on a CT100U and was just wondering since my motor blew on it. Thank you very much.
@matthewdurrence2028 no problem, I think I have an older video with a modified 212 ct100u I did. Let me know if you have any questions.
i wish you’d show how to actually do the throttle section. all i can see is your back. and then you’re bam done. wasn’t super helpful at this part.
@@redworm93 I would have if this was a how-to video, but this was meant for entertainment more than step by step