When you use those old style wheel pullers, once you have the puller installed, and the puller under about 1/4 turn of tension, you normally tap the end of the center bolt of the puller with a heavy (48 oz.) hammer to break the hub loose. You shouldn't need an impact wrench.
Great video! Might have to do this when I swap in a Dana 30 into mine. One thing I noticed you mentioning was the orientation of the drain hole. The drain hole is for the grease cup, not the drum brake. Even when you convert to disks, it’s important to align the drain hole so excess grease from the wheel bearing can drain and not sling out onto your brakes.
Now I just need to find a flat fender. I’ve been a auto tech for 47 years and the only thing I wouldn’t recommend is to put grease on any of the brake components. It becomes a magnet for road dust and brake dust and will actually cause more binding than not using any.
Grease your threads of your expensive new tool....spray a tiny amount of a thin lock lube... Later with the calipers, forget lithium, get yourself some synthetic silicone grease. EZSlide is a well known brand. Lube the collars before you slide them into the caliper. Apply to the contact points too just where the pads meet the saddle of the knuckle/torque member/whatever you wish to call it. Also... with disc its more critical for runout to be as close to zero as possible, compared to drums. I've always found it beneficial, in the long run, to LIGHTLY coat the hub surface with lithium grease, before installing the disc, but not enough to fly out and contaminate the disc/pads. With 2 machined surfaces, a little lube will let it go that much longer before water gets in and rusts things. You'll thank me at your NEXT brake job too when you don't gotta get ignorant with it. ;) Cheers... be safe.
I just bought some adapter plates from Brennon's Garage that will allow me to use disc brakes from a Suzuki Samurai, or Geo Tracker. I need to buy the rotors, calipers, and brake lines yet, but total price per axel should be around $300. This is my goal for this summer. Those stock 1948 drums are not much good. What did you do with the master cylinder? I bought a dual reservoir one. Now I have to figure out how to make an adapter for it......
Great Video and Great Advice -- Thanks for sharing and publishing this, that was a ton of work to film, edit and publish on TH-cam (in the middle of doing your actual project). Very well explained -- Keep up the good work!!
Im sure you have seen many Jeeps w a Spring Over Axle lift. Can you do a vid on some of the hack jobs you have seen? Know steering is where most corners are cut & look very sketchy.
very good job, you have done but I have a question, it is a disc brake adaptation kit. They sell it, do you have a link where I can buy it and also the question, is is, is it a CJ A2 I have the same one and I want to make an adaptation like that, thank you very much for your information. Thanks.
Hello my friend-So clear with your video how to convert to disc brace- Would you give me the link to buy the full components to upgrade-But i am living in Vietnam- that need to be shipable- My jeep is M38A1-is that the same components or need different or the same as your doing in video-thanks and good job buddy.
Hi, I have a jeep Willy's 1947 that I want to change brakes from drums to rotors. Where did you buy the parts-auto store like Napa/AutoZone/O'Reilly's? How did you go about master cylinder?-- did you swap it for bigger one? Thanx
Hiciste un gran trabajo, tengo entendido que los frenos de disco del Jeep CJ-7 también le sirven a los M38A1. ¿Tienes alguna información al respecto? Saludos y gracias.
Nice vid. But, my experience, you want a thick enough spacer so that the axle studs are recessed and not out. The wheel should be flat against the spacer. The vid looks like the 1" thick spacer, the axle studs are out of the hole. You can shave the head of the stud with a grinder and correct the threads with the nuts. Put nuts on first, cut the head, and use the nut to rethread them.
You did a great job on this video, i like the way it is so complete. I have a 1957 Jeep FC-150 that I would like to do this on. It is the one with the narrow axles. Do you know if this video is compatable with my jeep? Could I use the same part numbers or would mine be different? Thank you so much!
I have a ‘59 cj5 with verified Dana 30 front axle. (I looked at all messages, didnt see this question) Will this setup fit a Dana 30? $$ look better with this Im guessing my American 15” wheels will need replacing however...?
@@TurnNBurn you are top notch. I've been watching your channel for a while now. Me and my dad rebuilt a Willys when I was in high school. I still have the same jeep, but it hasn't been running for a while now; work and kids. Thanks for the response, love your videos, and impressed with your work.
HOLA desde España MEGUSTA tu vidio ya que soy propietario de un Willys Jeep C J 3 B ,Estaria interesado en poder hacer la conversion disc brake .prodria darme informacion donde conseguirlo? THANKS .
@@TurnNBurn Appreciate all the help, the video is helping tremendously. I ordered all parts mentioned in the video from ebay, oreillys, and rock auto. Total was roughly $850 for front and rear conversion (all new). I also emailed Herm the Overdrive guy for the master cylinder information and am waiting on a response. Where did your source the proportioning valves from and which ones did you go for? Do you think the rental hub pullers from Oreillys are too small for this application? Do you happen to have the part number for the shorter hard brake lines? Is there any special equipment recommended for the front end hub removal? Apologies for all the questions, I am trying to limit any issues during install.
Not sure how you did this for around $250 because I'm at almost $300 and I haven't even added the caliper brackets which alone cost $150 give or take. Where did you buy your caliper brackets?
Look up Brennon's Garage. He has similar plates that will allow Suzuki Samurai, or Geo Tracker discs. I just bought some, but haven't installed them yet.
Did you have to modify the front caliber or steering knuckle for travel for caliber ? I wish you would provide a video of the front axle I;m wanting to do both axles on my 1946 CJ2A .. thanks for your info !
I have an '88 Mitsubishi J23 (CJ3B clone, with upgrades) with the Dana 30 front axle and stock drum brakes. Will this kit fit this axle, and can I carry on using 15" wheels? See some of the Jeep here: th-cam.com/video/Ruhwv_lbOb4/w-d-xo.html
Cutting into a old drum with possible asbestos brake shoes is not a clever idea. If using the original master you must take the non return out or your pads will drag
When you use those old style wheel pullers, once you have the puller installed, and the puller under about 1/4 turn of tension, you normally tap the end of the center bolt of the puller with a heavy (48 oz.) hammer to break the hub loose. You shouldn't need an impact wrench.
Still coming back for notes!!!! Thanks for everything mudoxe!
Great video! Might have to do this when I swap in a Dana 30 into mine.
One thing I noticed you mentioning was the orientation of the drain hole. The drain hole is for the grease cup, not the drum brake. Even when you convert to disks, it’s important to align the drain hole so excess grease from the wheel bearing can drain and not sling out onto your brakes.
I'd add some red thread locker to the spacers. Fun video.
Now I just need to find a flat fender. I’ve been a auto tech for 47 years and the only thing I wouldn’t recommend is to put grease on any of the brake components. It becomes a magnet for road dust and brake dust and will actually cause more binding than not using any.
Grease your threads of your expensive new tool....spray a tiny amount of a thin lock lube...
Later with the calipers, forget lithium, get yourself some synthetic silicone grease. EZSlide is a well known brand. Lube the collars before you slide them into the caliper. Apply to the contact points too just where the pads meet the saddle of the knuckle/torque member/whatever you wish to call it.
Also... with disc its more critical for runout to be as close to zero as possible, compared to drums. I've always found it beneficial, in the long run, to LIGHTLY coat the hub surface with lithium grease, before installing the disc, but not enough to fly out and contaminate the disc/pads. With 2 machined surfaces, a little lube will let it go that much longer before water gets in and rusts things. You'll thank me at your NEXT brake job too when you don't gotta get ignorant with it. ;)
Cheers... be safe.
Awesome video. Storing this one away for future reference!
Great video and thank you for the parts list!!!
Well done. I have a 69 cj5 and was going to do just the front but now I think I’m doing all four wheels.
I just bought some adapter plates from Brennon's Garage that will allow me to use disc brakes from a Suzuki Samurai, or Geo Tracker. I need to buy the rotors, calipers, and brake lines yet, but total price per axel should be around $300. This is my goal for this summer. Those stock 1948 drums are not much good. What did you do with the master cylinder? I bought a dual reservoir one. Now I have to figure out how to make an adapter for it......
Oh, and great video, thanks
Great Video and Great Advice -- Thanks for sharing and publishing this, that was a ton of work to film, edit and publish on TH-cam (in the middle of doing your actual project). Very well explained -- Keep up the good work!!
Thank you.Didn't know it could be that simple.Wow.
Thanks man, my dad and are restoring a cj2a rn and we are thinking a going to disk brakes so thank you for the very helpful video
Great video! Thanks for the information very helpful , have fun be careful out there
Great video. I took notes of part numbers for future project (66CJ5). How often can say that after watching a video?
I'd be using high temperature brake grease instead of white lithium grease on those slider pins. The drop point of white lithium is only 395F.
Thanks for the info!
Im sure you have seen many Jeeps w a Spring Over Axle lift. Can you do a vid on some of the hack jobs you have seen? Know steering is where most corners are cut & look very sketchy.
When I add up the new parts for this, I get about $400-$500 per axle. How are you doing it for $250?
Awesome cool
Do you have dual master cylinder?
"... Next step is to- Well... THAT broke..." LOL *dead*
Im trying to do the same thing on a 66 gladiator. What is the measurement/stud count of the backing plate they look the same.
Check out my disc brake thread on thecj2apage
Very instructive!
very good job, you have done but I have a question, it is a disc brake adaptation kit. They sell it, do you have a link where I can buy it and also the question, is is, is it a CJ A2 I have the same one and I want to make an adaptation like that, thank you very much for your information. Thanks.
Where did you find a wheel drum puller?
I'm curious to what the point of dis breaks in the rear is
NICE GOOD 👍
Hello my friend-So clear with your video how to convert to disc brace- Would you give me the link to buy the full components to upgrade-But i am living in Vietnam- that need to be shipable- My jeep is M38A1-is that the same components or need different or the same as your doing in video-thanks and good job buddy.
You should only be using brake specific lubricant,
Great Video! I have a 1955 CJ5 I need to do it to!!!
Where did you get the hubs
I have a 1956 Willy's CJ-5, will your parts list and technic's work on it????
Yes
Dana 44 tapered axle is this a 2A made to look like an MB? The MBs came with a rear full floating axle
3A frame, MB body
Hi,
I have a jeep Willy's 1947 that I want to change brakes from drums to rotors. Where did you buy the parts-auto store like Napa/AutoZone/O'Reilly's? How did you go about master cylinder?-- did you swap it for bigger one?
Thanx
I went with Herm the Overdrive Guy's master cylinder kit but it's horrible. I'm personally looking for a better replacement
Hello, the handbrakes?????
I put an impact on mine worked great
What do you think about anti seize?
Great video. What are the part numbers for the hubs?
Hiciste un gran trabajo, tengo entendido que los frenos de disco del Jeep CJ-7 también le sirven a los M38A1. ¿Tienes alguna información al respecto? Saludos y gracias.
Thank you!! : - )
Great vid nice job.Do you need to change the master? Thanks
Yes explained in the video
What bears and seals did you use for roaters
Can you please direct me to where to get those cb7191 caliper brackets,thank you your video is great
I found them on eBay
@@TurnNBurn hi sir i need this kit where can i found it pls
Great video. Would there be a problem with only putting disk brakes on the front wheels?
Not at all.
Except the braking bias would be screwed up. If you can only do 1 axle do the rear. It does 70% of the braking.
Great video
Do you know if this kit you made would fit on a 63 FC-150... Thank you
Need help, will that kit work on a 1973 jeep commando?
Nice vid.
But, my experience, you want a thick enough spacer so that the axle studs are recessed and not out. The wheel should be flat against the spacer. The vid looks like the 1" thick spacer, the axle studs are out of the hole. You can shave the head of the stud with a grinder and correct the threads with the nuts. Put nuts on first, cut the head, and use the nut to rethread them.
They do not stick out
You did a great job on this video, i like the way it is so complete. I have a 1957 Jeep FC-150 that I would like to do this on. It is the one with the narrow axles. Do you know if this video is compatable with my jeep? Could I use the same part numbers or would mine be different? Thank you so much!
If it's a Dana 25 and Dana 44 you should be good to go.
Hi there, did you end up doing this rear disc upgrade on your FC? I have a 64 FC wide track (Dana 44) that I want to do this on.
What Kiaser Willies Jeeps will these parts fit? I have a 58 CJ5 that I would like to do this to.
It will fit that
How long does those 6 backing plate bolts need to be?
How do I contact you to purchase all conversion items, including rotors?
Parts list is in the description and video. It's all universal. You can buy online
Do you think it's possible to put too much grease in the front nuckle?
It's a heated topic in the Willys world.
Q: will this work I
on a 1956 Willy's Wagon???
Great job with the video! Any idea if the caliper brackets are the same for the front? My front axle is a Dana 27.
Yes this kit does front or rear
the wheel studs you list, will they be long enough for aftermarket aluminum wheels?
hope you can help.
You will need to look up the stud part number for dimensions, and measure your wheel.
I have a ‘59 cj5 with verified Dana 30 front axle. (I looked at all messages, didnt see this question)
Will this setup fit a Dana 30? $$ look better with this
Im guessing my American 15” wheels will need replacing however...?
The Dana 30 comes with disc brakes.
Do you have to do anything crazy with the front?
Nope
Would this part list work for a Dana 44?
Great job by the way!
Yes
@@TurnNBurn you are top notch. I've been watching your channel for a while now. Me and my dad rebuilt a Willys when I was in high school. I still have the same jeep, but it hasn't been running for a while now; work and kids. Thanks for the response, love your videos, and impressed with your work.
What master cylinder
Great video!!! Will this work for a '71 CJ5?
Yes
@@TurnNBurn Front and rear?
HOLA desde España MEGUSTA tu vidio ya que soy propietario de un Willys Jeep C J 3 B ,Estaria interesado en poder hacer la conversion disc brake .prodria darme informacion donde conseguirlo? THANKS .
Did you replace the master brake cylinder?
All is explained in the video
I have an M38a1. Will the same parts work?
Yes
Could you just send me the link to where you got your rotors
Good production on the video, thanks. I see you replaced the hubs with new, can you confirm the PN or source that you used?
I bought them from Kaiser Willys
@@TurnNBurn is it the stock hub for that axle, rather than the rotor?
Stock hub, just the rotor goes where the backing plate once did.
will this work on a 1971 jeep j2000
Buenas tardes alguien me puede decir de qué son esos frenos de discos para comprar y cambiar o dónde puedo comprarlos
三菱JEEP（J24）にも適合するキットを教えてください。
I wonder if they work for a Dj5 postal Jeep?
Anything from 1941-1971
What kind of master cylinder did you use? I got a cj3a about ready to work on.
Kaiser Willys dual reservoir kit
Will this work for a 1953 CJ3B? Also, will this keep the parking brake functional?
Yes. Parking brake is on the transfercase.
@@TurnNBurn Appreciate all the help, the video is helping tremendously. I ordered all parts mentioned in the video from ebay, oreillys, and rock auto. Total was roughly $850 for front and rear conversion (all new). I also emailed Herm the Overdrive guy for the master cylinder information and am waiting on a response. Where did your source the proportioning valves from and which ones did you go for? Do you think the rental hub pullers from Oreillys are too small for this application? Do you happen to have the part number for the shorter hard brake lines? Is there any special equipment recommended for the front end hub removal? Apologies for all the questions, I am trying to limit any issues during install.
i never use impact sockets. i have life warranty with husky lol
what brand of tires are you running
BKT
What dual reservoir master cylinder works best with this?
Kaiser Willys
will these parts work for a 71 cj5?
Yes
Not sure how you did this for around $250 because I'm at almost $300 and I haven't even added the caliper brackets which alone cost $150 give or take. Where did you buy your caliper brackets?
Price of goods has skyrocketed lately. I bought my brackets on eBay.
@@TurnNBurn They are $75 each. Do you maybe know of a alternative that works just the same?
It must be the Chevy bracket.
Does these part numbers work on 69cj
Yes
hey just curious where you found the caliper brackets? I can seem to track them down
eBay is where I bought mine. Or type in "CB7191 caliper bracket" on Google and parts websites come up.
Look up Brennon's Garage. He has similar plates that will allow Suzuki Samurai, or Geo Tracker discs. I just bought some, but haven't installed them yet.
Why on earth would you do tis to an AMC 20? At least upcrade to 1 piece axle shafts lol.
It's a Dana 44.
hey my question is will this work with 15in wheels?
I'm not sure they will clear the brake rotor and caliper even with the 1" spacer. Look into finding the 16" wheels.
@@TurnNBurn Ok thanks
Is there an emergency brake ?
No, but Brennan's Garage sells a kit with electric rear parking brake.
What master cylinder are you using with these disc brakes? Great video, thanks for sharing.
Herm the overdrive guy's kit
Did you have to modify the front caliber or steering knuckle for travel for caliber ? I wish you would provide a video of the front axle I;m wanting to do both axles on my 1946 CJ2A .. thanks for your info !
Yes I barely had to grind on the knuckle. Look up "CJ2A disc brakes for $250" and you'll find my thread on thecj2apage.
What's the hub part #
Original willys hub
@@TurnNBurn thank you very much.
Do you have a parts list?
In both the video and video description...
Mitsubishi j44 disk conversion
People use brake clean for breaks 😲
Send to mitsubishi j44 jeep break disk parts namber and video
I have an '88 Mitsubishi J23 (CJ3B clone, with upgrades) with the Dana 30 front axle and stock drum brakes. Will this kit fit this axle, and can I carry on using 15" wheels? See some of the Jeep here: th-cam.com/video/Ruhwv_lbOb4/w-d-xo.html
Cutting into a old drum with possible asbestos brake shoes is not a clever idea. If using the original master you must take the non return out or your pads will drag
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I love to keep everything original. Muricans love messing
Because some people like to stay safe while still enjoying the old. It's not an American specific thing.