Conway Stewart Alan Turing

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  • @arrivato
    @arrivato 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    First two logicians must have wanted a drink as well because if they didn’t, they would have just answered no definitively

  • @jadefae
    @jadefae 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Sometimes I think about how awful the end of Alan Turing's life was and I become immensely sad and angry at how people like me were "handled". Even a hero of the nation who saved countless lives was seen as a threat to decent society because of who he loved. That time is not ancient history, it is so painfully recent and it scares me. _Extremely_ beautiful pen, a wonderful tribute to him, though, perhaps not exactly the kind of classy look I'd expect out of $700.

    • @ruthfeiertag
      @ruthfeiertag 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I think it’s imperative always to acknowledge what was done to Turing. Thank you for adding the reminder about how his life was ruined by anti-homosexual laws - and that we are seeing e and more of those dangerous laws come back.

    •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At least they didn't throw him of a building

    • @jadefae
      @jadefae 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ People like you are SO eager to detail crimes against queer people but *only* as a gotcha. It's clear that you actually LIKE to think about queer people being killed and tortured. You LOVE reminding people like me of the violence we face in various corners of the world. If you truly cared about the injustice that queer people face, you wouldn't be replying to me, writing a pro queer comment, with some lazy "gotcha". You'd be out in the streets protesting for our rights. If I was in a room with you and a randomly picked resident of Gaza, I'd trust the Gazan more than I'd trust you. You're obviously salivating at the idea of queer suffering.

  • @bamesjond1223
    @bamesjond1223 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for another excellent review. I appreciate the history lesson - nice to learn something new. Cheers!

  • @user-hu1vv5wy2b
    @user-hu1vv5wy2b 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for putting me on to this pen (and manufacturer). I recently picked up the C/S Alan Turing and am very happy with it. It certainly holds its own with other pens at this price point.

  • @TheNightowl001
    @TheNightowl001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If I win the lottery and get into the market for one of these, I think I'd have to go with the Welshman, just because of that dial on the final! That looks great!

  • @kellieashman6908
    @kellieashman6908 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a Conway Stewart Churchill. They make some beautiful pen. This is a very interesting pen, thank you

  • @jaystone4816
    @jaystone4816 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Good, well-balanced review as always, David. I like the pen, but not the price. There's very stiff competition at this price level, and really not special enough by comparison in my opinion, especially as a limited edition. I find the build quality just okay, but nothing to be excited about.

  • @BossPenguin
    @BossPenguin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have #169 of the Turing-Welshman, the silver bombe looks amazing. Overall, very nice craftsmanship, although I would have liked it even more if they had put the brass insert in like the standard Churchill model has, just to get a bit more heft. But it's an amazing writer and versatile since I got it with both a cursive italic broad and an extra fine nib. Their customer service is amazing as well.

  • @Calcprof
    @Calcprof 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I first moved to Atlanta, I met the chair of the Emory math department, who had worked with Turing at Bletchley Hall. He had many fascinating stories about Turing in particular and Bletchley Hall in general. That's an old old joke. You want an explanation? A logician would answer "no" if he/she did not want a drink, for then he/she would know. So the 1st 2 logicians want a drink. Now the 3rd logician, who also wants a drink, knows that all 3 want a drink, so the 3 rd logician answers "yes". I've actually touched a real Enigma machine, as NSA often brings it to Mathematics conferences. The mathematics of the Enigma machine is actually quite interesting, and could be (mostly) covered in an undergraduate math course on abstract algebra.

  • @Supra_Mare_Cultro_Bloke
    @Supra_Mare_Cultro_Bloke 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:57 a secret message note is only permitted to be written on ”secret message note". Another joke from MI5 after Op Foot?

  • @13noman1
    @13noman1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Glad you explained the "X" - for a minute there I thought Elon Musk got his hands on it...!

  • @barbarajohnson1442
    @barbarajohnson1442 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    WHY $630......? really?

  • @flipper2gv
    @flipper2gv 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Build quality looks disappointing for the price. For a similar amount of money, I'd get an Onoto for a similar pen with much better attention to detail.

  • @ironmic9244
    @ironmic9244 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I guess this is the British Conway Stewart.

  • @ruthfeiertag
    @ruthfeiertag 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Also, do the markings on the back side of the note paper mean something? I feel as if they ought to be a code.

    • @ironmic9244
      @ironmic9244 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Ruth, How are you?

    • @ruthfeiertag
      @ruthfeiertag 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ironmic9244 Muddling along. How are you?

    •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ironmic9244 Hi iron. How are you?

  • @tayterlik
    @tayterlik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    1. The British did not remember about Polish mathematicians - conveniently they mentioned only the Touring as codebreaker. Polish team broke Enigma code 10 years before Touring and then build a mock-up version to decipher messages. Marian Rejewski, Henryk Zygalski and Jerzy Różycki - these are the names of the great minds. Analysis started in 1928, code broken first time in December 1932.
    They admitted it 75 years (!) later, when one of Polish emigrants from WWII felt brave enough to show microfilms documenting it; before that, this emigrant was afraid that the British will destroy it and forget to not damage their version, and Polish communists will destroy it to not show anything positive before communism in Poland.
    75 years.
    2. At the end of 1938 the modification of Enigma introduced new rotors which could be set in 60 versions. The team could not afford building 60 versions of their own machine, that's why they decided to give one of such machines (bomba kryptologiczna) to the French and British (initiative of Polish intelligence officers). Give. Not sell. The British officers could not believe it is possible to break the code, let alone to build a copy of machine.
    3. Based on this machine, Alan Touring constructed and developed the "bomb" further on. Genius in his own class.
    4. Polish mathematicians evacuated from occupied Poland, started working on breaking codes in France (v „P.C.Bruno”, Poste de Commandement Bruno). Alan Touring came many times to consult his works. After France fell into German hands, they tried to run away through Spain. Some of the team members were captured and died in concentration camps. Rejewski and Zygalski worked in the general staff of Polish army.
    5. "Bomba" can have two meanings here; one is an exclamation word, like "Eureka" or "Great!", when something unexpectedly but with great pleasure is noticed (I do not think it was the meaning in naming of device, personally). Second meaning - something that has an effect with one hit, one action; e.g. "bomba kaloryczna" - some food which has hundreds of calories, if you will eat it in one go it destroys a whole calories balance (and this for me reflects the intention of naming).
    To sum up: a British company makes a pen to commemorate Alan Touring as a codebreaker of Enigma. For me it is the same tune to conveniently not remember who was first. Do I need another reason not to buy this pen? No.
    Do I mean that Alan Touring wasn't a genius? No.

    • @Jason-pq5mq
      @Jason-pq5mq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any references?

    • @tayterlik
      @tayterlik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Jason-pq5mq To all of the info? History books, BBC articles, wikipedia...

    • @johnneville403
      @johnneville403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As I am sure you are well aware, allied codebreakers did not break the Nazis code once and that was the end of it. They had to break the codes multiple times during the war as the Nazis added complexity to their cipher machines and changed the protocols for setting their codes. The Poles did brilliant work at the start of the war and should rightly be praised, but others picked up the baton they started as the war progressed and they should also be celebrated for their achievements. EDIT: I totally take you point, however that the Hollywood narrative of the lone genius cracking the codes is totally misleading. It hides the huge contribution others made, including the pioneering work of the Polish codebreakers.

    • @tayterlik
      @tayterlik 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@johnneville403 Yes, this is a very good summary. Codebreaking is a constant chase - your enemy is always one-two steps forward and you have to find out, what was changed and where. Usually the problem is to find out the first step - what is a general idea of this particular coding (e.g. mathematical formula, which will be modified later on). What I meant is that till the very recent years - nobody remembered about work before Touring. It would be a fascinating tv series if someone takes it seriously; there was input of French intelligence officer cooperating with Polish cryptography unit, then Touring cooperating with Poles in France, then Touring and his team working with next developments of the "bomb". I would end the story showing how Touring was treated after the war...
      "Representing Britain at the modern-day ceremony was the head of GCHQ, the intelligence agency that grew out of Bletchley Park. "What happened here in 1939 changed the course of history and we are here to honour those who are responsible," its director Sir Iain Lobban told the audience.
      He described the breaking of Enigma as like a relay race in which the baton has been passed "but it is the team as a whole which wins the medal"."
      www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28167071

    • @johnneville403
      @johnneville403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tayterlik Well said. Good to chat with you.

  • @ruthfeiertag
    @ruthfeiertag 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the colour yellow have a particular significance?

    •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Jealousy as far as I know

    • @ellaisplotting
      @ellaisplotting 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ green is jealously, yellow is cowardice. Odd choice for a war hero.

    •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ellaisplotting I guess colors mean different things in different countries. Yellow always meant jealousy here. And green is supposed to be the color smarter people prefer.

  • @bluesplotch
    @bluesplotch 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    acording to Encyclopedia Britanica it was colled bombe because "They were called Bombes (or bombes), due to their resemblance to Rejewski’s bombas." the idea that bombe is a british exclamation similar to eureka is interesting though yet seems wholly made-up and untrue.

    • @FigbootonPens
      @FigbootonPens  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      According to the Museum of Computing, it was a Polish saying that roughly translated to eureka in English.

    •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@FigbootonPens It was? Meaning that they do not have that word anymore?

  • @RedouaneSebbar
    @RedouaneSebbar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beceause its a Alan turing pen. I actually expected the dots on the paper to be the secret message masked as a place to write your message. perhaps the distance between the dots in combination with the dots add up to 1 and 0 or something like that.

  • @1968gadgetyo
    @1968gadgetyo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Although the 'secret message' is a nice gimmick, it still could not surpass Visconti's Speakeasy. At least I can have a drink, not passing a $700 to someone else to read your secret message.

  • @trimethoxy4637
    @trimethoxy4637 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    arial font engraving looks disgustingly unartistic

  • @justmeeagainn
    @justmeeagainn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    $632.00?? Noodlers makes resin pens for $25.00.

    • @JerryBearry
      @JerryBearry 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A Bentley costs more than a Corolla.

    •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JerryBearry Yea but bentley doesn't put a generic engine in their cars like this generic laser engraved nib

  • @pavanhuliyar
    @pavanhuliyar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Typical AND condition in programming.. any one of them say no, its a no..

  • @MrAndrew1953
    @MrAndrew1953 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if you’re right handed you get a --- oblique nib? Otherwise a Broad nib if it’s not too broad. The note feature is an excellent place to store encrypted dad jokes.( encrypted so people can’t steal your punchlines 😏).

  •  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I find it so weird that a brand like this and a pen of this price has a "on the shelf nib" laser engraved with the logo, when there are brands like Jinhao, Majohn, etc that have their own nib designs that you do not find on other brands and STAMPED, even on their 2-3$ pens. Such a lazy excuse of a pen