I want to clarify my reasoning for a few things here 1. I do mention in the video keeping one copy of everything and awakening it for the codex. I'm not concerned about doing that with my 1 star stuff right now because you get SO MANY of them every time you craft I feel like I can knock that out when money is less tight 2. For the "you are bad a math" people in the comments section, what would you rather have? 5 chances at 20% each, OR 1 of each component guaranteed with an additional 20% chance for 1 more. For me I like taking the chance out. 3. If you don't agree with my method here that's fine! We are all still learning the game and if people reading the comments section want to try your method they can :D
Thanks for sharing! From my understanding, there’s always 2 ways around this game for different situations. I like the guaranteed anvil and enhancement stones idea, but the caveat is that you’ll use gold to get that guarantee. For someone with insufficient gold, they should dismantle it straight away. When they have gold to invest in the guaranteed items, then I’ll say go for it! The same with awakening and upgrading 1 star items to get codex and collection cp. I suggest a free2play player to attempt for awakening 3 on all items first. It’s easily achieved and worth the investment for that cp gain. After which they should dismantle all their excess equipment to save gold (don’t chase codex achievements at this point). They should invest all their gold into making a strong main at this point. I’m a level 59 engineer main and I’ve been doing this on my account. I don’t really struggle with gold at this point, while getting the minimal benefits from collection cp. I will look into the guaranteed 2 and 3 star dismantle rewards you mentioned. Thanks again!
You can also awaken 10 and use all the extra one stars to start lvl up the awaken 10 pieces to get more % out of it and to keep unlocking more codex stuff but that's probably even more gold spent
You are wasting 1 star gear. What you should do is to get each 1 star up to at least 3 stars and go for max (10) awakening for the extra cp from collections. Upgrading 1 stars to 3 stars takes so little that doing all of them (seven 1s' - three 1s weapons and four 1s armors) costs less than it takes to upgrade a 4 star to a five and will give a significant amount of cp for what it costed. Awakening will cost relatively a lot of gold but its well worth it. You can try to get max awakening by using the 1 stars you will eventually get from crafting and reach 10 awakening which gives a good boost of cp. You can also try to get lucky by awakening using only 1 gear which has a chance for you to get lucky and save a bit of gold and material
You are correct, however I feel you misunderstand the purpose of this video. What's being talked about here is what to do with all your excess gear *after* you hit AW10 for your 1*, 2*, and 3* gear
Great tips! Especially for the people pushing power. I am trying to collect everything and get all of the achievements since the exp is so little I power them all up and awaken them. This is because I play multiple classes so my gold is going into account-wide CP instead of an item that can be trumped by a better piece. I am only 450k on my main, but all of my alts are also 400k+. I will definitely use these tips when I get all caught up though. Hope everyone is getting better!
I still awaken all my level 1s and 2s since it's so easy and grants bonus CP. Yeah, it costs a little bit of gold, but it's very easy to afk farm gold in this game.
Usually I like your content, but the information in this video seems to be wrong... The most confusing thing for me is, that nearly every other Ni No Kuni Content Creator made a video about this topic too, but nobody seems to do the math. I mean why should I awaken the items first? Look: If I need 6 parts of 3 star gear AND gold to get one stone for sure plus a 20% chance of a second one, thats completely the same rate I will have when I just salvage my gear parts right away, but WITHOUT spending tons of gold... For those who don't know, 3-star gear has a 20% chance of dropping a stone, so mathwise you should get a stone every 5th salvage. If I miss something please correct me. Edit: I hope you get well soon.
Personally I take the "pity" for 50k gold and awaken mine to 3. Having broken 20 3 stars and getting F-ed by RNGesus hard (1 anvil, no stones). It's purely anecdotal and very small sample size, the math checks out that you SHOULD break even without spending the extra gold. (of course it wont save you from dumpstering those immediately on a failed attempt) It certainly costed more gold, but it got me my +21 necklace
salvaging 7 weapons has roughly 20% chance not getting any stones: 80% ^7 to me its like paying gold to get rid part of the RNG frustration. (19-20 is frustrating enough) I do salvage wep at awaken 3, 0 or 1 depends on situation (similarly opening 100 accessories chest(1% rare 4 star) won't 100% the outcome its 1-0.99^100 = 63% chance getting at least 1)
Heya Auron new subscriber, I got some more infos in terms of 1 2 and 3 stars: 1 Star gear gives the crystals with higher awakening ranks (10 gives like 1500 or so crystals/ Familiars give Wishing stars a whole lot) 2 stars in gears gives recipes and enhanchment stones /in familiar cases it gives Gummies and eggs 3 star gives out the higher enhanchment stones as you did mention/ In case of familiars the gummies/egg count increase. Haven't tested out 4 stars yet. If you did upgrade/evolve the star quality you refund HALF of the "upgrade material" if you dismantle/release
Ive watched 2 or 3 videos on whether or not using +10 awakend 3 star weapons for elemetal decks , is better than using 3 seperate 4 stars in a rainbow deck. Also whether or not you build your shiny 4 stars , considering its soo hard to awaken. I am in top kingdom on server soo we spend a lil bit. We still have not come to a concencus. For the massive whales , they dont care , but for us that spend moderatly and care about pusing power and rank in different game modes, we would like to know.
Usually love the content, but I really don't think this is the right way to go about 1-3 stars. Awakening them to get to 10 awaken provides a nice boost to CP/Stats for relatively little gold. I've awakened all my 1-2 and decently high awakening on my 3* stars and have gained several thousand CP for doing so. Now that they are maxed I use duplicates of the same items to level them up to the max of 30. I'm not sure if I'm going to upgrade them though as that requires using materials that are used to upgrade the more important gear, but dismantling them for what is equivilent to basically nothing just seems like a huge waste over what really boils down to spending gold to purchase CP.
Ahhh, almost forgot that awakening the 1* was part of the codex, I fed my duplicates to lvling up my other gears, might do your way instead(use dupes to upgrade the maxed awakened). Thanks for the info
@@Wanayn yea, I have been at least trying to fill out the base line of the codex, definitely don't know about going ham on making a 1* a 6* or anything at this point though haha
@@naoquartafeiratv5486 definitely also the achievements alone for leveling and awakening provide a huge bump per achievement level on CP. It helped me get to almost lvl 14 achievement and who knows how much gold and mount trainers etc I've gotten as well
Thanks for all the guide, I also read your tips for awakening and i'm doin that as well getting 1star items to awaken7 atleast for added stats and then keep em until you can awaken10. For me much its much better than farming/getting again those 1s when you have the chance to do it right now. Only gold is the challenge which is not hard in my opinion.
@Auronnj Jay in my opinion Actually s1 armor and weapon when already hit's max tier on awakening it's worth a decent basic stat for weapon mostly hp and armor pure basic atk and awakening it not cost so much gold compared s2 or s3 and it's easy to get max tier on it even when play rng on 71-85% chance's doenst hit 50k gold each attempt so what do you think?
3s items are good. Just make it to 5s. Cuz the requirements are not to big. Make your 3s to 5s lvl30 with atleast lvl5 awaking. The boost is pretty good for free to play.
Ya I think people should awaken for the permanent cp gain first. Then I would start doing this afterwards. That's just my opinion though. Eventually gonna want to evolve them as well for even more permanent cp. Although that part I think people should wait until those materials become for widely available over time. As always thanks for the great video!
in short, 5 2* equipment = 1 common enhance stone OR 5 2* equipment to awaken 3 + 35k gold = 1 enhance stone + 40% chance to get bonus 5 3* equipment = 1 uncommon enhance stone OR 6 3* equipment to awaken 3 + 77k gold = 1 enhance stone + 1 anvil + 20% to get bonus i don't think 2* awaken 3 salvage to get enhance stone is worth it, cost too much gold. 3* is worth it tho, anvil + uncommon stone which hard to get (one way to get it need medal)
Im using 2 weapon with 3s and made it 5s with lvl30, lvl5 awakening. Yet i have 440k cp rn. Some of this content from streamers are saying spending your upgrates with your 3s are bad. But its not! Some are misleading. They say it cuz some(mostly) of them obviously are P2W. They just saying base on their observation but they haven't exp it so thats wrong.
Either I'm misunderstanding something or this is not good advice - from what I can see on average you get exactly the same rewards when salvaging six 0 awakening 3* pieces as you do when salvaging one 3 awakening 3* piece - so the 50k gold you spend on awakening does not provide any benefit to the salvage result other than guaranteeing at least 1 stone/anvil, but over time this benefit is not relevant as you salvage many single pieces and your returns average out. 6x Zero Awakening 3*: 0.2 stone x6 = 1.2 stone 0.2 anvil x6 = 1.2 anvil 0.4 recipe x6 = 2.4 recipe 40 crystals x6 = 240 crystals 1x Three Awakening 3*: 1.2 stone 1.2 anvil 2.4 recipe 240 crystals Edit: That said I'm impressed you're still producing content while struggling with covid. Wish you a swift recovery!
it's chance and as a whale who salvage a lot if I feel being lazy of gold is a lil tight I do no awakening salvaging, but I just did 20 pcs 3* 0 awaken and didn't get any enchantment stones. It's percentage doesn't adds up the more you salvage.
you are really bad at math, awakening doesn't bring better results, it is still 20% per item just with descreased dispersion for huge cost and wasted gold, dismantle with no awakening is more profitable
1*s arent trash, they can be used to awaken each other by 1 to complete and gain achievement xp to boost your cp. I think the max awakening is 300x, same as 1*s pets. ps. Dont worry about the gold spending, it will comeback "more" when you finish the achievement
COVID messing with you head man. You need rest. This is not a good use of your 1 stars at all. You get soooo much of those crafting mats, you're just throwing away codex and achievement CP. and achievement grades are some of the biggest bumps on your accounts CP. and its fairly cheap to awaken 1 stars and you will need quite a bit of them to each 1 star to 10. also you could also use them for armor leveling fodder once you get them to each to 10 awakening..
I want to clarify my reasoning for a few things here
1. I do mention in the video keeping one copy of everything and awakening it for the codex. I'm not concerned about doing that with my 1 star stuff right now because you get SO MANY of them every time you craft I feel like I can knock that out when money is less tight
2. For the "you are bad a math" people in the comments section, what would you rather have? 5 chances at 20% each, OR 1 of each component guaranteed with an additional 20% chance for 1 more. For me I like taking the chance out.
3. If you don't agree with my method here that's fine! We are all still learning the game and if people reading the comments section want to try your method they can :D
Thanks for sharing!
From my understanding, there’s always 2 ways around this game for different situations. I like the guaranteed anvil and enhancement stones idea, but the caveat is that you’ll use gold to get that guarantee. For someone with insufficient gold, they should dismantle it straight away. When they have gold to invest in the guaranteed items, then I’ll say go for it!
The same with awakening and upgrading 1 star items to get codex and collection cp. I suggest a free2play player to attempt for awakening 3 on all items first. It’s easily achieved and worth the investment for that cp gain. After which they should dismantle all their excess equipment to save gold (don’t chase codex achievements at this point). They should invest all their gold into making a strong main at this point.
I’m a level 59 engineer main and I’ve been doing this on my account. I don’t really struggle with gold at this point, while getting the minimal benefits from collection cp. I will look into the guaranteed 2 and 3 star dismantle rewards you mentioned. Thanks again!
All I want is for you to get well soon! Thanks for the awesome content as always 💪
get well soon auronn! don't mind the negativity! your video is of a great help to us and please keep on uploading great content!
You can also awaken 10 and use all the extra one stars to start lvl up the awaken
10 pieces to get more % out of it and to keep unlocking more codex stuff but that's probably even more gold spent
You are wasting 1 star gear.
What you should do is to get each 1 star up to at least 3 stars and go for max (10) awakening for the extra cp from collections.
Upgrading 1 stars to 3 stars takes so little that doing all of them (seven 1s' - three 1s weapons and four 1s armors) costs less than it takes to upgrade a 4 star to a five and will give a significant amount of cp for what it costed.
Awakening will cost relatively a lot of gold but its well worth it. You can try to get max awakening by using the 1 stars you will eventually get from crafting and reach 10 awakening which gives a good boost of cp. You can also try to get lucky by awakening using only 1 gear which has a chance for you to get lucky and save a bit of gold and material
You are correct, however I feel you misunderstand the purpose of this video. What's being talked about here is what to do with all your excess gear *after* you hit AW10 for your 1*, 2*, and 3* gear
I didn't know that upgrading 1* boosts CP. I only awakened up to 10. Thanks for the tip.
what do u advice to do with acessory and pets after 10 aweken lvl reached
Get well soon ✨ Really appreciate you putting out useful content even when you're sick
Thank you for the video. Love the FFT bgm, takes me back~ and speedy recovery!
Great video. The video audio is still clear. Hope you have a hasty recovery!
Great tips! Especially for the people pushing power. I am trying to collect everything and get all of the achievements since the exp is so little I power them all up and awaken them. This is because I play multiple classes so my gold is going into account-wide CP instead of an item that can be trumped by a better piece. I am only 450k on my main, but all of my alts are also 400k+. I will definitely use these tips when I get all caught up though. Hope everyone is getting better!
I still awaken all my level 1s and 2s since it's so easy and grants bonus CP. Yeah, it costs a little bit of gold, but it's very easy to afk farm gold in this game.
Usually I like your content, but the information in this video seems to be wrong... The most confusing thing for me is, that nearly every other Ni No Kuni Content Creator made a video about this topic too, but nobody seems to do the math. I mean why should I awaken the items first?
Look: If I need 6 parts of 3 star gear AND gold to get one stone for sure plus a 20% chance of a second one, thats completely the same rate I will have when I just salvage my gear parts right away, but WITHOUT spending tons of gold... For those who don't know, 3-star gear has a 20% chance of dropping a stone, so mathwise you should get a stone every 5th salvage.
If I miss something please correct me.
Edit: I hope you get well soon.
Personally I take the "pity" for 50k gold and awaken mine to 3.
Having broken 20 3 stars and getting F-ed by RNGesus hard (1 anvil, no stones). It's purely anecdotal and very small sample size, the math checks out that you SHOULD break even without spending the extra gold. (of course it wont save you from dumpstering those immediately on a failed attempt)
It certainly costed more gold, but it got me my +21 necklace
salvaging 7 weapons has roughly 20% chance not getting any stones: 80% ^7
to me its like paying gold to get rid part of the RNG frustration. (19-20 is frustrating enough)
I do salvage wep at awaken 3, 0 or 1 depends on situation
(similarly opening 100 accessories chest(1% rare 4 star) won't 100% the outcome
its 1-0.99^100 = 63% chance getting at least 1)
@@tas6199 thats true, but only if you just look at 7 weapon / 100 chest openings. In the long run, chances will more and more adjust.
Heya Auron new subscriber,
I got some more infos in terms of 1 2 and 3 stars:
1 Star gear gives the crystals with higher awakening ranks (10 gives like 1500 or so crystals/ Familiars give Wishing stars a whole lot)
2 stars in gears gives recipes and enhanchment stones /in familiar cases it gives Gummies and eggs
3 star gives out the higher enhanchment stones as you did mention/ In case of familiars the gummies/egg count increase.
Haven't tested out 4 stars yet.
If you did upgrade/evolve the star quality you refund HALF of the "upgrade material" if you dismantle/release
Ive watched 2 or 3 videos on whether or not using +10 awakend 3 star weapons for elemetal decks , is better than using 3 seperate 4 stars in a rainbow deck. Also whether or not you build your shiny 4 stars , considering its soo hard to awaken. I am in top kingdom on server soo we spend a lil bit. We still have not come to a concencus. For the massive whales , they dont care , but for us that spend moderatly and care about pusing power and rank in different game modes, we would like to know.
I will pray for your fast recovery bro 🖤🙏🏽
Excellent video :). Get well soon.
Is 4 star armor no awaken better than 3 star 5 awaken and has higher cp?
best tip ive watch so far , keep it up and get well soon
Bro it's ok if I want to lvl up my fire 1 star to fire 1 star?
I use 1* to lvl up awakened 1-2* since you have to max them out eventually for collection. They gave more exp to low level gears.
Can you do familiar , I don't really know what to do to all my 1 and 2 star familiar
1600 asterite :O did you buy some with the NFT coin stuff?
Nope, just finished high in familiar arena
Usually love the content, but I really don't think this is the right way to go about 1-3 stars. Awakening them to get to 10 awaken provides a nice boost to CP/Stats for relatively little gold. I've awakened all my 1-2 and decently high awakening on my 3* stars and have gained several thousand CP for doing so. Now that they are maxed I use duplicates of the same items to level them up to the max of 30. I'm not sure if I'm going to upgrade them though as that requires using materials that are used to upgrade the more important gear, but dismantling them for what is equivilent to basically nothing just seems like a huge waste over what really boils down to spending gold to purchase CP.
Ahhh, almost forgot that awakening the 1* was part of the codex, I fed my duplicates to lvling up my other gears, might do your way instead(use dupes to upgrade the maxed awakened). Thanks for the info
That's what I was thinking throught the video. Codex is so important, Awakening them is the way to go for sure!
I agree. He got it wrong . Everything he is doing here is wrong in the video
@@Wanayn yea, I have been at least trying to fill out the base line of the codex, definitely don't know about going ham on making a 1* a 6* or anything at this point though haha
@@naoquartafeiratv5486 definitely also the achievements alone for leveling and awakening provide a huge bump per achievement level on CP. It helped me get to almost lvl 14 achievement and who knows how much gold and mount trainers etc I've gotten as well
you really sound good with that voice
Hope you get well soon
Awaken gears 1st before using them for dismantel or level up equip
wrong, and expensive
@@LangLang5689 Nah, it's free CP at the very least. And getting gold in this game is so easy to do with their AFK farming system.
wowowowow this is so helpful!!! thanks
Thanks for all the guide, I also read your tips for awakening and i'm doin that as well getting 1star items to awaken7 atleast for added stats and then keep em until you can awaken10. For me much its much better than farming/getting again those 1s when you have the chance to do it right now. Only gold is the challenge which is not hard in my opinion.
@Auronnj Jay in my opinion Actually s1 armor and weapon when already hit's max tier on awakening it's worth a decent basic stat for weapon mostly hp and armor pure basic atk and awakening it not cost so much gold compared s2 or s3 and it's easy to get max tier on it even when play rng on 71-85% chance's doenst hit 50k gold each attempt so what do you think?
And for gold issue alt's or slave or whatever community called it can farm start from 20 on water element lvl 26 in map that requires 1-30 lvl
Ive upgraded some of my 3* as main weapon.... now i lacking resouce to upgrade my 4* weapon
awaken your 1 star to level 10. then after that, if you get a copy of that, use that to level your 1 star. to increase stars
Omg at least I only wasted my 2 stars lol thanks hope you get better soon!
3s items are good. Just make it to 5s. Cuz the requirements are not to big. Make your 3s to 5s lvl30 with atleast lvl5 awaking. The boost is pretty good for free to play.
Thanks for the tips!
how do you get so much inventory space? I have all my alts to level 20 but only have 250 spaces.
buying in inventory slot in shop with real money...
@@J.Franco.23 Yes but he has 650. I buy that pack and only have 350. What am I missing?
@@rehabwardialer level up your other class within the account. 50 slot per class if you reach them to 40.
Ya I think people should awaken for the permanent cp gain first. Then I would start doing this afterwards. That's just my opinion though. Eventually gonna want to evolve them as well for even more permanent cp. Although that part I think people should wait until those materials become for widely available over time. As always thanks for the great video!
in short,
5 2* equipment = 1 common enhance stone OR 5 2* equipment to awaken 3 + 35k gold = 1 enhance stone + 40% chance to get bonus
5 3* equipment = 1 uncommon enhance stone OR 6 3* equipment to awaken 3 + 77k gold = 1 enhance stone + 1 anvil + 20% to get bonus
i don't think 2* awaken 3 salvage to get enhance stone is worth it, cost too much gold. 3* is worth it tho, anvil + uncommon stone which hard to get (one way to get it need medal)
thank you for the guide now I can stack enhancement stones :)
bro just got revitalise to a better state. Also your voice sound a bit bettet than yesterday
Huh? How do u have 1k territe?
get well soon good sir :)
BRO WE MISS YOUR LIVELY VOICE. GET WELL SOON
get well soon ^^
Im using 2 weapon with 3s and made it 5s with lvl30, lvl5 awakening. Yet i have 440k cp rn. Some of this content from streamers are saying spending your upgrates with your 3s are bad. But its not! Some are misleading. They say it cuz some(mostly) of them obviously are P2W. They just saying base on their observation but they haven't exp it so thats wrong.
Either I'm misunderstanding something or this is not good advice - from what I can see on average you get exactly the same rewards when salvaging six 0 awakening 3* pieces as you do when salvaging one 3 awakening 3* piece - so the 50k gold you spend on awakening does not provide any benefit to the salvage result other than guaranteeing at least 1 stone/anvil, but over time this benefit is not relevant as you salvage many single pieces and your returns average out.
6x Zero Awakening 3*:
0.2 stone x6 = 1.2 stone
0.2 anvil x6 = 1.2 anvil
0.4 recipe x6 = 2.4 recipe
40 crystals x6 = 240 crystals
1x Three Awakening 3*:
1.2 stone
1.2 anvil
2.4 recipe
240 crystals
Edit: That said I'm impressed you're still producing content while struggling with covid. Wish you a swift recovery!
it's chance and as a whale who salvage a lot if I feel being lazy of gold is a lil tight I do no awakening salvaging, but I just did 20 pcs 3* 0 awaken and didn't get any enchantment stones. It's percentage doesn't adds up the more you salvage.
you are really bad at math, awakening doesn't bring better results, it is still 20% per item just with descreased dispersion for huge cost and wasted gold, dismantle with no awakening is more profitable
tnx alot
Once i see the weapoms upgrade chart I immediately know where the game goes. Big no for me.
Facepalm.... 1st u awaken everything to 10 because it boosts your overall BS and later on you can dismantle
dis is a whale thing. gold is very precious to use as awakening then salvage. i rather use it as lvlup mats after awakening 10.
1*s arent trash, they can be used to awaken each other by 1 to complete and gain achievement xp to boost your cp. I think the max awakening is 300x, same as 1*s pets.
ps. Dont worry about the gold spending, it will comeback "more" when you finish the achievement
oh no i made another mistake . thanks a lot man this will really help me in future .
You kinda sound like Lin Manuel Miranda XD
Are you sick
COVID messing with you head man. You need rest. This is not a good use of your 1 stars at all. You get soooo much of those crafting mats, you're just throwing away codex and achievement CP. and achievement grades are some of the biggest bumps on your accounts CP. and its fairly cheap to awaken 1 stars and you will need quite a bit of them to each 1 star to 10. also you could also use them for armor leveling fodder once you get them to each to 10 awakening..
bro, u just wasted a lot of 1 star, do some research
Mate your way of doing this is totally 💯 wrong
1st
Good advice. I'm completing codex so I can't salvage until I reach awakening 10 on my 1star 🥲