Sometimes I wonder what Leonard would be doing now if Lady Luck had decided on the Bards’ College instead of the Thieves’ Guild on that coin flip way back in Chapter One...
But don't you see...? That was never going to be the outcome. Lady Luck wanted her trinket back, and he was the "key." She already knew the outcome, because she made it so.
Going to stick this to try and merge all the "*clairvoyance*" threads into one :) The reason that spell is buggy is NOT due to having too many quests highlighted. It's having certain quests highlighted that breaks it. In this case "Tools of the Trade". My current best guess as to why, is that it has map markers that cannot be reached by NPCs. The clairvoyance spell seems to highlight a path to a marker that an NPC would take. If no such path is available, the spell breaks completely .... I think. Obviously the more quests you have highlighted the more likely it is to contain a quest that breaks it. And of course the spell tends to find the 'closest' quest rather than the one you might be thinking of, and you may not even realise it because what clairvoyance considers the 'closest' may not be 'as the crow flies' and thus may not be obvious when looging at the map. So, knowing this, you might think that you should trust map markers more than clairvoyance, right? Well you can't, especially for radiant quests. Why? Because some map markers are placed at an entrance/exit that is the closest to your final destination even if there is no actual path from that entrance/exit to your final destination (as it did in this very video). In those instances, it's *possible* that clairvoyance will actually do a better job of getting you to the destination than heading to the map marker itself because it will show you a viable path to the target.
Well, it's not a problem Gopher. For us, as viewers, it's actually better that Leonard don't know at 100% where to go, because we see him using his brain - and he's somebody that's supposed to have a good one. On the other hand, for roleplaying purposes, it make totally sense, and you can actually make use of this flaws of the game: 1) for imprecise markers, you can say that the informations that Leonard received weren't clear. Actually, considering that in some quests you are locating places/items that are ages old, it's totally understandable that the informations are not pinpoint accurate. 2) for Clarvoyance not working, you can say that the visions you received weren't clear, Leonard saw just a lot of fog or something like that. After all visions and knowledge of the future aren't always accurate or easy to read in the Elder Scrolls universe. Just think about the "prophecy" of Dawnguard, that was misunderstood for thousands of years.
@@albertorepetto2909 Map marker being wrong could also just be a case of whoever marked it on the map making a mistake :) They said one place, but put an X somewhere else :)
Super late coming here but clairvoyance uses navmeshes to figure out a path. If a navmesh doesn't touch the destination, for example if the destination is a skeleton stuck way up on a wall that requires rock crawling to get to, there's no navmesh to reach it and clairvoyance can't make a path. This is the problem with the mod quests. The problem with it going to the wrong place is the custom map marker left on the map for no reason. How I know this: I use clairvoyance to debug modded navmesh because it's more reliable than the ck tool for testing navmesh connectivity (which is buggy)
The first time I fell there I somehow hit one of the ledges in the shaft and died of course. This is one dwemer ruin that caught me off guard. Who ever developed this ruin did well.
Get the feeling Lenny's going to retire a 'eccentric' millionaire. Becomes a baker and perfects sweetroll preservatives. Cackles in the streets about how he has thousands, thousands of sweetrolls stored in his vault while passerbys shake their heads sadly. Poor Inigo still eats them to amuse his old friend, but didn't have the heart to say he has long gone off them.
Herebane Sorenshield is an NPC added by the Cutting Room Floor mod, who should actually attack you on Meridia's quest for Dawnbreaker, by the way. No idea why he decided to randomly hang out in Fort Greenwall instead.
I think he appears there if you weren't high enough level to have him appear at Merdia's temple. Mostly saying that as I had him appear around that fort too.
Maven treats her own family poorly. Leonard keeps thinking that Maven's distance is a mask but let's be honest Maven lording over people IS her version of polite and friendly.
It took me years of playing Skyrim to discover Kagrenzel, and I only found the place by accident, because I followed the path near Ansilvund. Even now, after about 2800 hours of playing Skyrim, I'm sure there are places I have still yet to explore.
I keep having to remind myself Gopher hasn't played the museum before and isn't just trolling us by going to the wrong places. Clairvoyance is a mess though.
For the record you can jump up from the cave over that cliff and into the tunnel that takes you to the ruin. But it takes a dozen tries and involves a lot of scrambling and really isn't Lenny's thing at all.
Yeah, clairvoyance is just pointing the shortest path to the shield, which is the exit cave since the boss chest in Kagrenzal is right next to the exit that goes to Stony Creek Cave.
@Haku infinite It is a perfectly valid route to the shield excepting that the level design makes it effectively "exit only" and Clairvoyance does not have a way of knowing that.
The only thing that has to do with the museum is that a radiant boss chest is chosen for the treasure. Clairvoyance would act the same if you were sent to fetch some random loot during vanilla play.
Clairvoyance tracks the closest tracked quest UNLESS you have a custom map marker, clairvoyance ALWAYS tracks the custom map marker if one is placed. Certain modded quests also can break the clairvoyance as you noticed with the "tools of the trade" quest.
You can also fix the issue with sweetroll being attacked by addin him back to the vanilla horse faction with the command "addfac 2E894 -1" Seems to be a issue between inigo and convenient horses.
1SaBy There are many places in Skyrim you’ll miss if you only play quest to quest and don’t go out of your way to explore. Especially along the edges of the map, since you’ll never accidentally discover them en route to somewhere else.
Kagrenzel is used in a couple of radient sidequests. I've had the Companions send me here, and ol' Urag in Winterhold wanted me to grab a book in another playthrough. But the object and locations for these are always randomized, so you could play this game several times and never see it.
@@DevilMasterLukj I can see why. It's on the edge of the map, in the mountains and has no non-radiant quests attached to it. I was also confused because its name is mentioned in a book added by a quest mod I have installed, but haven't really started yet. I thought it was a location added by that mod, since it wasn't marked on my map after reading the book.
Dear Leonard, I hear you recently went to Stoney Creek Cave and had some problems at the waterfall trying to get into Kagrenzel the back way. It's a tough climb but it is doable. Go up the left side, if I'm remembering correctly. It took me a lot of jumping around on the rocks trying to climb up but I eventually made it. I have a friend who made the climb too, but she is a weird one. She claims to have died once and been to the Realm of Lorkhan and prayed at an altar that made her a tiny bit more acrobatic. She said she had no problem with the wall and made it on the first try. You can, of course, go all the way through Kagrenzel and get there, but the Stoney Creek Cave method lets you come up on the falmer more easily. I cleaned them out but they have probably reinfested the cave by now. You could, of course, go in the front entrance, but I was wondering, since you are in the area, if you could check the very first couple stone arches up the path from Stoney Creek, or on the way out if you go the normal way. I dropped a very valuable flawless diamond and it's on top of them. I was kind of hoarse that day or I would have shouted it down (I'm dragonborn too). Without the shout and not knowing a telekinesis spell, I was unable to get my diamond back. We are both wealthy. It's not the thought of losing the diamond that bugs me just the thought that maybe some of those Falmer will find it. I can't bare the thought of them getting their grubby hands on it. If you can get it you are welcome to it. Best wishes, A friend and fellow dragonborn P.S., don't touch the strange orb. It's a big hassle.
Does anyone else feel like Leonard has forgotten how Inigo's whistle works? Seriously as I recall, If I'm sneaking with weapons out then inigo doesn't fight unless he is attacked If I whistle with weapons drawn NOT sneaking then he attacks on sight. So what I'm seeing is "Leonard" crouches into a sneak whistles at Inigo, which tells him NOT to attack. Then after the fight Leonard asks why he didn't attack and Inigo thinks" I love you, Bro but you're an idiot" LOL
I never actually knew that. I thought it was whistle with weapons out is attack on sight. Whistle with weapons sheathed is only attack when I do. I didn't realise you had to stop sneaking to make him go aggressive.
4:13 So far shes very target orientated. She is still waiting for Leonard to bring the Quill. Shes VERY patient due to all the titles he has collected. Maybe once he settles down he may give her the quill.
I think it is never gonna happen. The power the quill gives is definitely not something Leonard will give her. It is a very dangerous tool: better to hold on to it being useless, than to let someone else have it working. But the thing is, regardless, - Lenny is at this point waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful, dangerous, ambitious and influential than Maven; the manner she tries to deal with him shows her as either ignorant of that information or too self-assured, frankly. I guess, he wont kill her ", because game " - now if she knows that, that is a totally different level of intrigue and drama😂
I remember taking a direct and rather annoying route to that Dwemer Ruin. I think the first time I went there I just Jump glitched up the mountain. I'd also find it funnier that hell if the Coffer he is looking for is in the almost impossible to find unmarked Nordic Ruins deep in the mountains around Riften.
Wow this is my first time being so early, haha Lenny venting about his frustrations with maven. And wow the shot at 7:12 , your draw distance is impeccable. I wish my game was like this! I need to upgrade to all the specs gopher has on his pc.
@@JoshAlex1986z There are some fetch quests that could lead you there, I remember specifically Companions heirloom retrieval quests pointing to that place on many occasions for me.
@@rogimay4959 I had to go there for some quest - radiant, I'm sure. Second or third time through. I thought I found out how to keep from hitting the walls - don't loot the bandits. But Lenny looted (of course he did) but it looks like he is going to miss the walls? Color me confused.
It'd be cool if you could use Telekinisis to sort of pull yourself up. Or, if your trusty Khajiit follower, who if I remember right can jump a bit higher than other races, could just nip up there and lend you a hand.
This just means Lenny's gonna try harder for a levitation spell, right? Lol I think with my third go round I took a bunch of useless crap to fall down with me just to see it tumble like a kid throws grass in the air. The fourth go around I tried to land on the ledge you pass with the lantern that flies right by your head and then did the dungeon backwards to sneak up on the enemies, that one took 7 tries I believe (I used the netch jelly to cushion the fall but that meant I couldn't nudge my character in the right direction during the decent, so I missed a lot) and the ones that were semi successful I didn't use the netch jelly in time and had to watch my character slide pathetically off the side because she died but I think a glitch keeps her alive after the scene transition. I think she had many a head injury. It's the only reason she'd think it's perfectly rational to spend several weeks attempting the stupid stunt.
Yeah, but the real problem are some quests without quest markers that seem to break clairvoyance. In this case it's "Tools of the Trade" that keeps breaking it :)
@@GophersVids For clairvoyance to work correctly, you should only have one map marker highlighted. If you have multiple markers, it will point to the first one it finds.
@@GophersVids Let us know if you found a way to finish that quest. For me it got stuck after I got all the tools and I haven't been able to get it off my active quests list.
@@joma185 but that's a pain in the arse because playing Skyrim one quest at a time results in a real tedious experience. It's nice to have everything on the map so you can casually do stuff when you come across it
@@synthiandrakon Agreed, but that means you can't rely on clairvoyance to take you where you want to go. It would be like expecting the game to read your mind and leading you to the location that you're thinking of. That might be a possibility by the time Elder Scrolls 6 comes out, but in this game...?
It's a perk in Ordinator's Lock Picking branch: 100 - Seen This Before - Your skill at lockpicking is such that you may bypass locks of Expert or lower level without using a key or manually picking the lock. After picking or bypassing at least 100 locks, you gain 2 perk points.
It doesn't cost 6000 gold to make. He makes it from components he acquires, ahem, and even if he buys them, they cost no more than 200 gold for the most part. He could sell them for maybe 60% of the 'value', if the merchants had that kind of money, which few do.
Wonder why clairvoyance is even in the game. If they had removed map markers for this game then it'd have a use but it doesn't work unless you have a quest that places a marker on your map somewhere. So, it's a redundant spell that would have only worked in a game where there were no map markers to guide you along from point A to point B.
It's useful to know when a room in a dungeon is a side room so that you don't go through the main room thinking it's the side room and miss the useless 50 gold and soulgem you'll find in the chest in the side room!
Multi-level dungeons don't work great with map markers because you'll know where the item is, but not what height it is at (which "floor"). It came about during the same testing they do to make sure people can navigate caves successfully if you don't make them strictly linear.
Leonard (Gopher)? I think you need to reread Inigo's whistle book. I'm pretty sure it says if you whistle while sneaking he doesn't attack unprovoked even if you have your weapons out. So you keep whistling "don't kill it" and then saying "kill it, you can kill it" and that why Inigo is looking at you like you're insane LOL
You expect clairvoyance to show you the way when you've got a ton of quests on active? It'll just show you to the nearest quest. I expected more from Lenny ;)
*"It'll just show you to the nearest quest"* - Yes please. That's what Leonard was hoping. I didn't understand the last sentence though. You expected more from Leonard than wanting it to show him the nearest quest?
@@TheMetalChef38 *"I expected him to know how clairvoyance works by now."* - I don't think there is any way for Leonard to truly know how it works because to understand it I think you have to understand what a navmesh is. However, I (Gopher) can tell you that it has nothing to do with having too many active quests. At least not directly. See the sticky for details.
No you don't. You have to make sure which ever quest is breaking Clairvoyance is NOT selected :) You can have hundreds of quests tracked and it can still work. But some quests just break it. Tools of the Trade is the main culprit for Leonard.
@@GophersVids In this case, could your problem when you arrived at the little dock outside the cave be a result of Clairvoyance relying on navmeshing and since you had to swim across to the cave the navmesh was broken? Effectively, you had "arrived at your destination" as far as Clairvoyance was concerned? Then it started working again inside the cave because it had proper navmeshes again?
@@senhowler A big part of the problem for the quest in this episode is that the map marker is really in the wrong place. It should be at Kagrenzel, which is where the journal tells you to go. I don't want to spoil it too much so I can't give you specifics yet, but it comes down to the very basic (and flawed) way quest markers get placed for radiant quests.
@@GophersVids I know why the marker is in the cave. I mentioned elsewhere that Clairvoyance needs the ability to identify doors that can only be accessed from one direction. I was just wondering if the navmesh might be why the trail stopped short of the cave door when you arrived at the dock.
@@senhowler I've actually found that you need to stop clairvoyance and then restart it once the trail fades sometimes. Like if you don't it just keeps highlighting the old trail back where you came from so you think it's telling you to turn around. It might be nice if the trail had different colours at each end :)
I see the world is starting to scale to your level, and its scaling hard. I hate this mechanic tbh. I dont want to start seeing ONLY Dragur Deathlords, Arch Conjurers in campsites, as I get stronger. its like all there are never novice mages anymore, or low level dragur ever again.
But deathlords have the best loot among draugr and they will fill your grand soul gems. Let's be honest - unless you go around killing mammoths, its hard to fill those grands.
Sometimes I wonder what Leonard would be doing now if Lady Luck had decided on the Bards’ College instead of the Thieves’ Guild on that coin flip way back in Chapter One...
But don't you see...?
That was never going to be the outcome. Lady Luck wanted her trinket back, and he was the "key." She already knew the outcome, because she made it so.
Same thing he's doing now, but while singing.
Going to stick this to try and merge all the "*clairvoyance*" threads into one :)
The reason that spell is buggy is NOT due to having too many quests highlighted. It's having certain quests highlighted that breaks it. In this case "Tools of the Trade". My current best guess as to why, is that it has map markers that cannot be reached by NPCs. The clairvoyance spell seems to highlight a path to a marker that an NPC would take. If no such path is available, the spell breaks completely .... I think. Obviously the more quests you have highlighted the more likely it is to contain a quest that breaks it. And of course the spell tends to find the 'closest' quest rather than the one you might be thinking of, and you may not even realise it because what clairvoyance considers the 'closest' may not be 'as the crow flies' and thus may not be obvious when looging at the map.
So, knowing this, you might think that you should trust map markers more than clairvoyance, right? Well you can't, especially for radiant quests. Why? Because some map markers are placed at an entrance/exit that is the closest to your final destination even if there is no actual path from that entrance/exit to your final destination (as it did in this very video). In those instances, it's *possible* that clairvoyance will actually do a better job of getting you to the destination than heading to the map marker itself because it will show you a viable path to the target.
Well, it's not a problem Gopher. For us, as viewers, it's actually better that Leonard don't know at 100% where to go, because we see him using his brain - and he's somebody that's supposed to have a good one.
On the other hand, for roleplaying purposes, it make totally sense, and you can actually make use of this flaws of the game:
1) for imprecise markers, you can say that the informations that Leonard received weren't clear. Actually, considering that in some quests you are locating places/items that are ages old, it's totally understandable that the informations are not pinpoint accurate.
2) for Clarvoyance not working, you can say that the visions you received weren't clear, Leonard saw just a lot of fog or something like that. After all visions and knowledge of the future aren't always accurate or easy to read in the Elder Scrolls universe. Just think about the "prophecy" of Dawnguard, that was misunderstood for thousands of years.
@@albertorepetto2909 Map marker being wrong could also just be a case of whoever marked it on the map making a mistake :) They said one place, but put an X somewhere else :)
@@GophersVids agreed :)
You placed a custom map marker, so clairvoyance is bringing you to it
Super late coming here but clairvoyance uses navmeshes to figure out a path. If a navmesh doesn't touch the destination, for example if the destination is a skeleton stuck way up on a wall that requires rock crawling to get to, there's no navmesh to reach it and clairvoyance can't make a path. This is the problem with the mod quests.
The problem with it going to the wrong place is the custom map marker left on the map for no reason.
How I know this: I use clairvoyance to debug modded navmesh because it's more reliable than the ck tool for testing navmesh connectivity (which is buggy)
Is it any wonder all the beasts want to eat Inigo's horse? You're the one who named it Sweetroll.
TeeHee
The first time I fell there I somehow hit one of the ledges in the shaft and died of course. This is one dwemer ruin that caught me off guard. Who ever developed this ruin did well.
Get the feeling Lenny's going to retire a 'eccentric' millionaire. Becomes a baker and perfects sweetroll preservatives. Cackles in the streets about how he has thousands, thousands of sweetrolls stored in his vault while passerbys shake their heads sadly. Poor Inigo still eats them to amuse his old friend, but didn't have the heart to say he has long gone off them.
Herebane Sorenshield is an NPC added by the Cutting Room Floor mod, who should actually attack you on Meridia's quest for Dawnbreaker, by the way. No idea why he decided to randomly hang out in Fort Greenwall instead.
I think he appears there if you weren't high enough level to have him appear at Merdia's temple. Mostly saying that as I had him appear around that fort too.
@@Techhunter_Talon Is it a bug or intended to be that way though?
He is also the author of the Herebane's Beastiary books.
@@rogimay4959 Might be intended.
I think legacy of the dragonborn changes his location.
Well I think we know how Inigo got his head injury now!! Brilliant episode :D
Leonard vs. The Mountain 2: Eclectic Boogaloo.
I've just gotta say, the titles of the episodes are fantastic
7:00 Come on, the trolls only wanted to eat a Sweet Roll. 😮
Inigo: So you have chosen death
i think Leonard has Dream Charmed me too, because I am even more happy to see him again than Keerava is.
Oh, I remember that ruin. Gave me _quite_ a start.
2:08 its barely noticeable but that change in poor Inigo face.. I though he gonna hit Leonard for not giving the promised Sweet Roll XD
Maven treats her own family poorly. Leonard keeps thinking that Maven's distance is a mask but let's be honest Maven lording over people IS her version of polite and friendly.
The way Inigo was standing there at the end reminded me of the final scene in The Blair Witch Project...
It took me years of playing Skyrim to discover Kagrenzel, and I only found the place by accident, because I followed the path near Ansilvund. Even now, after about 2800 hours of playing Skyrim, I'm sure there are places I have still yet to explore.
@@30noir - Thanks, I'll have to have a look.
I will pay money for the next episode to open with the cart ride from the beginning of the game.
Lol!
I keep having to remind myself Gopher hasn't played the museum before and isn't just trolling us by going to the wrong places. Clairvoyance is a mess though.
For the record you can jump up from the cave over that cliff and into the tunnel that takes you to the ruin. But it takes a dozen tries and involves a lot of scrambling and really isn't Lenny's thing at all.
Yeah, clairvoyance is just pointing the shortest path to the shield, which is the exit cave since the boss chest in Kagrenzal is right next to the exit that goes to Stony Creek Cave.
@Haku infinite It is a perfectly valid route to the shield excepting that the level design makes it effectively "exit only" and Clairvoyance does not have a way of knowing that.
I was looking forward to his mod spotlight to n legacy but his edition is old now X D
The only thing that has to do with the museum is that a radiant boss chest is chosen for the treasure. Clairvoyance would act the same if you were sent to fetch some random loot during vanilla play.
Ending: Leo (Gopher) *SURPRISED*
Me: *Just as surprised*
Some great lines from Lenny in this one.
Clairvoyance tracks the closest tracked quest UNLESS you have a custom map marker, clairvoyance ALWAYS tracks the custom map marker if one is placed.
Certain modded quests also can break the clairvoyance as you noticed with the "tools of the trade" quest.
You can also fix the issue with sweetroll being attacked by addin him back to the vanilla horse faction with the command "addfac 2E894 -1"
Seems to be a issue between inigo and convenient horses.
Also, the "speak with animals" perk prevents you from telling inigo to attack animals, you can disable it in the ordinator mcm until you need it.
So Kagrenzel is a vanilla dungeon I've never been to. The more you know.
Same here I think. I don't remember it at all.
@@GophersVids I'm gonna have to go there tomorrow, just to not have it spoiled by the next episode. :)
1SaBy There are many places in Skyrim you’ll miss if you only play quest to quest and don’t go out of your way to explore. Especially along the edges of the map, since you’ll never accidentally discover them en route to somewhere else.
@@GophersVids if you'd been there before, you would definitely remember the "Kagrenzel Plunge." :-)
Kagrenzel is used in a couple of radient sidequests. I've had the Companions send me here, and ol' Urag in Winterhold wanted me to grab a book in another playthrough. But the object and locations for these are always randomized, so you could play this game several times and never see it.
Such a cliff hanger this one is, I love it!
Man I remember when I first found this place mannnn it caught me off guard
Lancelot plays Skyrim... the more you know.
I've never been there ever since I got the game in 2012.
@@MrSinjoy it's not really a location alot of people know about honestly
Inigo's location dialogue for that place is pretty spot on.
@@DevilMasterLukj I can see why. It's on the edge of the map, in the mountains and has no non-radiant quests attached to it. I was also confused because its name is mentioned in a book added by a quest mod I have installed, but haven't really started yet. I thought it was a location added by that mod, since it wasn't marked on my map after reading the book.
Got bored and saw Lenny and Inigo got updated mere seconds ago. Morning saved
Best ever ending to an episode.
Dear Leonard, I hear you recently went to Stoney Creek Cave and had some problems at the waterfall trying to get into Kagrenzel the back way. It's a tough climb but it is doable. Go up the left side, if I'm remembering correctly. It took me a lot of jumping around on the rocks trying to climb up but I eventually made it. I have a friend who made the climb too, but she is a weird one. She claims to have died once and been to the Realm of Lorkhan and prayed at an altar that made her a tiny bit more acrobatic. She said she had no problem with the wall and made it on the first try. You can, of course, go all the way through Kagrenzel and get there, but the Stoney Creek Cave method lets you come up on the falmer more easily. I cleaned them out but they have probably reinfested the cave by now.
You could, of course, go in the front entrance, but I was wondering, since you are in the area, if you could check the very first couple stone arches up the path from Stoney Creek, or on the way out if you go the normal way. I dropped a very valuable flawless diamond and it's on top of them. I was kind of hoarse that day or I would have shouted it down (I'm dragonborn too). Without the shout and not knowing a telekinesis spell, I was unable to get my diamond back. We are both wealthy. It's not the thought of losing the diamond that bugs me just the thought that maybe some of those Falmer will find it. I can't bare the thought of them getting their grubby hands on it. If you can get it you are welcome to it.
Best wishes,
A friend and fellow dragonborn
P.S., don't touch the strange orb. It's a big hassle.
Cliffhanger or what!!!
Can't wait till the next episode drops.
We're a bit past a cliff-hanger, aren't we?
@@Tautolonaut There's a lot of momentum going into the next one.
Does anyone else feel like Leonard has forgotten how Inigo's whistle works? Seriously as I recall, If I'm sneaking with weapons out then inigo doesn't fight unless he is attacked If I whistle with weapons drawn NOT sneaking then he attacks on sight. So what I'm seeing is "Leonard" crouches into a sneak whistles at Inigo, which tells him NOT to attack. Then after the fight Leonard asks why he didn't attack and Inigo thinks" I love you, Bro but you're an idiot" LOL
I never actually knew that. I thought it was whistle with weapons out is attack on sight. Whistle with weapons sheathed is only attack when I do. I didn't realise you had to stop sneaking to make him go aggressive.
And all I had in my head at the end was tom Petty's free falling haha!
4:13 So far shes very target orientated. She is still waiting for Leonard to bring the Quill. Shes VERY patient due to all the titles he has collected. Maybe once he settles down he may give her the quill.
I think it is never gonna happen. The power the quill gives is definitely not something Leonard will give her. It is a very dangerous tool: better to hold on to it being useless, than to let someone else have it working. But the thing is, regardless, - Lenny is at this point waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more powerful, dangerous, ambitious and influential than Maven; the manner she tries to deal with him shows her as either ignorant of that information or too self-assured, frankly. I guess, he wont kill her ", because game " - now if she knows that, that is a totally different level of intrigue and drama😂
Oh man, what an ending
Yeh, that was awesome! "Ohh....Shiii.....Inigo?" Hilarious!!
I remember taking a direct and rather annoying route to that Dwemer Ruin. I think the first time I went there I just Jump glitched up the mountain. I'd also find it funnier that hell if the Coffer he is looking for is in the almost impossible to find unmarked Nordic Ruins deep in the mountains around Riften.
Now I gotta go trudge up that mountain and find the weird pitfall, huh.
omg thats funny i never been in that place before and i play skyrim great video Mr Gopher
Lovely! I was needing a pick me up this morning.
Good morning Gopher 😊
Gopher 22 sweet-rolls = 5.5 pounds in carry weight, just so you know did the math just out of curiosity.
Talk about down the rabbit hole 🕳
Something to think about: To get those coins from Kitty Leonard had to cut open the kitty's digestive track.
I might be wrong but I think inigo "attacking on sight" is only a thing that happen when you are not sneaking. So you have to get up for him to do it.
Best ending to an episode... ever :D
Wow this is my first time being so early, haha Lenny venting about his frustrations with maven. And wow the shot at 7:12 , your draw distance is impeccable. I wish my game was like this! I need to upgrade to all the specs gopher has on his pc.
Don't think its the draw distance, he's using Dyndolod which has great effect on long distance view in skyrim
I just found out this was vanilla. I've never found this place when I played through, and I thought I found everything!
So do we all. Only we are all wrong.
Oh my goodness, does Leonard survive, tune in to see . Great video Gopher as always 💖😍
At the least make it like a dream or something that he has upon impact of the water 😂 this would be 🔥🔥💯
I've said it before. Now I'll say it again: I LOVE the non-sequiturs. I had no clue until I saw the destination atop that hill.
Salutations, mate. o7
Kagrenzel is a sorely underutilised location.
NGL that ending freaked me out. That was some Close Encounters bullshit. Lenny's gotta yeet outta there super-quick.
Idea for Legacy of the dragonborn: satellite wings/art galleries for all the art Leonard finds in multiple cities.
Pretty sure Inigo's head is hurting again.
25:35 Oops 😂
Either that part at the end is a mod or I have never done that dwarven ruin despite my thousands of hours playing Skyrim
It's vanilla, but there are no quests or anything to drag you there. You're basically left to stumble onto it or be led there by a mod.
@@JoshAlex1986z like I've been in stoney creek cave a lot but I've never been up to the ruin
@@JoshAlex1986z There are some fetch quests that could lead you there, I remember specifically Companions heirloom retrieval quests pointing to that place on many occasions for me.
@@rogimay4959 I had to go there for some quest - radiant, I'm sure. Second or third time through. I thought I found out how to keep from hitting the walls - don't loot the bandits. But Lenny looted (of course he did) but it looks like he is going to miss the walls? Color me confused.
@@pedigreeann The trick is to simply not move while falling usually, has nothing to do with looting or not looting
It'd be cool if you could use Telekinisis to sort of pull yourself up. Or, if your trusty Khajiit follower, who if I remember right can jump a bit higher than other races, could just nip up there and lend you a hand.
Isn't it the custom marker messing with clairvoyance?
No. It's a quest called Tools of the Trade.
This just means Lenny's gonna try harder for a levitation spell, right? Lol
I think with my third go round I took a bunch of useless crap to fall down with me just to see it tumble like a kid throws grass in the air. The fourth go around I tried to land on the ledge you pass with the lantern that flies right by your head and then did the dungeon backwards to sneak up on the enemies, that one took 7 tries I believe (I used the netch jelly to cushion the fall but that meant I couldn't nudge my character in the right direction during the decent, so I missed a lot) and the ones that were semi successful I didn't use the netch jelly in time and had to watch my character slide pathetically off the side because she died but I think a glitch keeps her alive after the scene transition.
I think she had many a head injury. It's the only reason she'd think it's perfectly rational to spend several weeks attempting the stupid stunt.
Lenard 🤦🏿♂️ sigh
Why did you touch the orb? You knew better. 😤
Mr. Curiosity reared his ugly head.
If you have a custom map marker, clairvoyance will alwas point towards it over the selected quest.
Yeah, but the real problem are some quests without quest markers that seem to break clairvoyance. In this case it's "Tools of the Trade" that keeps breaking it :)
@@GophersVids For clairvoyance to work correctly, you should only have one map marker highlighted. If you have multiple markers, it will point to the first one it finds.
@@GophersVids Let us know if you found a way to finish that quest. For me it got stuck after I got all the tools and I haven't been able to get it off my active quests list.
@@joma185 but that's a pain in the arse because playing Skyrim one quest at a time results in a real tedious experience. It's nice to have everything on the map so you can casually do stuff when you come across it
@@synthiandrakon Agreed, but that means you can't rely on clairvoyance to take you where you want to go. It would be like expecting the game to read your mind and leading you to the location that you're thinking of. That might be a possibility by the time Elder Scrolls 6 comes out, but in this game...?
OK LMAO this was epic
Did curiosity kill the cat?
I noticed in your video play you have a message that lets you bypass the lock on doors, chests etc. What is the name of that mod (SSE) version
It's a perk in Ordinator's Lock Picking branch:
100 - Seen This Before - Your skill at lockpicking is such that you may bypass locks of Expert or lower level without using a key or manually picking the lock. After picking or bypassing at least 100 locks, you gain 2 perk points.
Wait does clairvoyance default to the optional objective. That might be why it took you where it took you
I always laugh how Leonard complains that Inigo uses ebony arrows and then casully uses a potion that costs 6000 gold to kil a bandit.........
It doesn't cost 6000 gold to make. He makes it from components he acquires, ahem, and even if he buys them, they cost no more than 200 gold for the most part. He could sell them for maybe 60% of the 'value', if the merchants had that kind of money, which few do.
AAAAhahahahaaaaaa I'vesobeenwaitingforthis! Welcome to Kagrenzel, Lenny!!
Wonder why clairvoyance is even in the game. If they had removed map markers for this game then it'd have a use but it doesn't work unless you have a quest that places a marker on your map somewhere. So, it's a redundant spell that would have only worked in a game where there were no map markers to guide you along from point A to point B.
It's useful to know when a room in a dungeon is a side room so that you don't go through the main room thinking it's the side room and miss the useless 50 gold and soulgem you'll find in the chest in the side room!
Multi-level dungeons don't work great with map markers because you'll know where the item is, but not what height it is at (which "floor"). It came about during the same testing they do to make sure people can navigate caves successfully if you don't make them strictly linear.
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Leonard (Gopher)? I think you need to reread Inigo's whistle book. I'm pretty sure it says if you whistle while sneaking he doesn't attack unprovoked even if you have your weapons out. So you keep whistling "don't kill it" and then saying "kill it, you can kill it" and that why Inigo is looking at you like you're insane LOL
Oh is that it. That could be a problem considering Leonard's MO :)
Is that last dungeon in the base game or is it a mod I've never seen it in 30 playthroughs, if it is vanilla.
It is vanilla.
One of the more interesting ones, despite the Stony Creek Cave part being only a tunnel with a side room and an end room
You expect clairvoyance to show you the way when you've got a ton of quests on active? It'll just show you to the nearest quest. I expected more from Lenny ;)
*"It'll just show you to the nearest quest"* - Yes please. That's what Leonard was hoping. I didn't understand the last sentence though. You expected more from Leonard than wanting it to show him the nearest quest?
@@GophersVids I expected him to know how clairvoyance works by now. ;) You've got too many quests active for it to work properly.
@@TheMetalChef38 *"I expected him to know how clairvoyance works by now."* - I don't think there is any way for Leonard to truly know how it works because to understand it I think you have to understand what a navmesh is. However, I (Gopher) can tell you that it has nothing to do with having too many active quests. At least not directly. See the sticky for details.
@@GopherLiveVids Sorry mate, I thought that was the problem. Guess I was wrong. I'm gonna watch your vid about it now :)
You need to make sure you only have one mission enabled for clairvoyant to work properly
No you don't. You have to make sure which ever quest is breaking Clairvoyance is NOT selected :) You can have hundreds of quests tracked and it can still work. But some quests just break it. Tools of the Trade is the main culprit for Leonard.
@@GophersVids In this case, could your problem when you arrived at the little dock outside the cave be a result of Clairvoyance relying on navmeshing and since you had to swim across to the cave the navmesh was broken? Effectively, you had "arrived at your destination" as far as Clairvoyance was concerned? Then it started working again inside the cave because it had proper navmeshes again?
@@senhowler A big part of the problem for the quest in this episode is that the map marker is really in the wrong place. It should be at Kagrenzel, which is where the journal tells you to go. I don't want to spoil it too much so I can't give you specifics yet, but it comes down to the very basic (and flawed) way quest markers get placed for radiant quests.
@@GophersVids I know why the marker is in the cave. I mentioned elsewhere that Clairvoyance needs the ability to identify doors that can only be accessed from one direction. I was just wondering if the navmesh might be why the trail stopped short of the cave door when you arrived at the dock.
@@senhowler I've actually found that you need to stop clairvoyance and then restart it once the trail fades sometimes. Like if you don't it just keeps highlighting the old trail back where you came from so you think it's telling you to turn around. It might be nice if the trail had different colours at each end :)
Fall Guys in Skyrim
You showed your quest book and there were 6 still highlighted. Yet you wonder why Clairvoyance doesn't work .
I also used mehrunes razor in this episode and wondered why clairvoyance didn't work :)
Shame about siding with the imperials and them banning levitation and all...
I see the world is starting to scale to your level, and its scaling hard. I hate this mechanic tbh. I dont want to start seeing ONLY Dragur Deathlords, Arch Conjurers in campsites, as I get stronger. its like all there are never novice mages anymore, or low level dragur ever again.
But deathlords have the best loot among draugr and they will fill your grand soul gems. Let's be honest - unless you go around killing mammoths, its hard to fill those grands.
well I was the 666th like XD