God, I do love Germany and something like this only makes me love it more! I realise that these clubs (especially Dortmund) are now "global brands" to a certain extent, but the way they actively interact with their fans and seem to balance being big businesses whilst rooted in their communities is really impressive. Being able to negotiate ticket prices directly with the club?? That's very cool. The points made in the film about standing sections and being able to drink in the grounds are also important as these elements really do add to the raucous and fun atmosphere at German games. I've been to a good few Bundesliga games over the last 5 years or so and every one of them has been an absolute pleasure to behold. I really hope I can taste the Revierderby one of these days!
Well it's a different setup genius. Their clubs are associations English clubs are just clubs ultras have no say in how clubs are run as most European clubs were part of a bigger centralised structure that included other sports such as volleyball and chess if which you had a member. English clubs were born out of something more organic and stretch back to the mid 1800s. A few people managing a crowd of thousands wouldn't work in England because fans would just do their own thing.
nils hd what are you on about your country was brutally dispatched by 3 English teams 10-2, 4-0 3-1 your so called superior German dna don’t mean shit we have already beaten you in two world wars now we are beating you like ragdolls in football aswell just accept that England the place where football was fucking invented is better than Germany at quite literally everything
@@yuehagime8302 Nils is ironic on this one... I bet he's one of those self hating people from Germany and member of the Antifa, yelling "Death and hate to the German Michel" by not realizing that he's German as well.
Supported Watford for 30+ years home and away but working in Berlin currently and watching FC Union Berlin few weeks back versus the League leaders was a genuine eye opener. Ticket price, free transport, terracing, atmosphere and people happily drinking or smoking without any hassle - incredible. The Germans have got football right, very envious of them because in England, especially the Premier League, it's soul has been ripped out with hardly a murmur from the people who once made it what it was. Oh, and because of some new friends, Schalke every time out of these two :-)
As a Newcastle United fan under the never ending rule of Mike Ashley, i wish that our fan base could come together and retake our club and fans have their own stakes in the club much in the way these two are set up. British football at the minute is all about the money with owners not giving a fuck about the fans only their profits, fan ownership is a way to retake control and make it about the football again
Well said, but look on the bright side. At least your not a long suffering Blackpool FC supporter with the son of a rapist owning the club and seemingly determined to run it into the ground. Love Blackpool, hate Oyston!
Wish they would have shown more of the atmosphere during the game. I watched the game and especially payed attention to the crowd, knowing copa 90 would document this derby, and the crowd was buzzing, there was sining non stop and it was outstandingly loud all of the game!
Fun fact: If you ask a Schalke fan who went to the stadium in the 70s or even earlier, you might be surprised to hear who THEY consider their arch enemies: Rot-Weiss Essen.
i live in dortmund and it was a harmless derby. you should have been there when dortmund spoiled schalke the trophy in 2007 by winning 2:0. that was atmosphere there...
I hate football and lived in Dortmund and can say derby match days always had a festive, communal vibe as a city!!! The only 2 days a year where even I watched the games!!
@@Schwaaaang holy shit is that him? Surely not... he would be crowded by bvb supporters.... though i do like the idea of klopp going back to dortmund to see his former side
Dear Eli, your portrait of this derby is priceless as much as timeless. Today the first Lüdenscheid vs. Schalke 04 derby is staged before an empty Signal Iduna Park. It really is a big loss. In any event, whenever some of my American friends want to know what German football is all about, I always share your video with them ... Glück auf!
There are teams in the second tier of German league that have more attendance then some teams in Englands premier league . I think that's crazy and shows Germany has some of best fans in football.
I respect the way Germans go about their football. Low ticket prices and all that. The reason it doesn't work in England anymore is because of the hooligan outrage in the 60s/70s and 80s. The government worked to make football more commercial, especially in the premier league. But what I can't stand is how most people from other countries only see the premier league clubs- many have lost their atmosphere as they've become commercialized. Most English football clubs have great atmosphere, foreign football fans need to realise that they will find the best atmosphere in lower tier football. Most matches at Millwall the crowd are really hyped and the atmosphere is buzzing and intimidating in some parts
I wish we had this kind of football/soccer culture in the US. On top of football/soccer being the best sport in the world so are fans and the community and unity that football/soccer bring is just amazing.
Der Grund für die Rivalität ist, dass S04 und der BVB die gleiche Geschichte haben und sich sehr ähnlich sind. Sowohl die Clubs, als auch die Menschen. Beides Arbeiterklasseclubs ursprünglich, die heute der Stolz ihrer jeweiligen Stadt sind. Schalke hat mehr Tradition durch die Mythosbegründung in den 40ern und 70ern und Dortmund derzeit mehr Erfolg. Ein Gelsenkirchener, der in Dortmund lebt. The reason for the rivalry is the same background and history of Schalke und Borussia. Both clubs and people, which live in the relative towns. Both Clubs are very similar and starts as working class Clubs. Today they are the (only) pride of their towns after decline of the industry in the Revier after the 80s. Schalke got more Tradition with the titles in 40s and a succesfull team in the 70s, and Dortmund got more sucess today. A Gelsenkirchener, who lives today in Dortmund
Freigeist2008 War so allerdings hat sich die Fanszene geändert in den 80ern , in Dortmund waren viele Studenten aber auch Nazis , auf Schalke waren nach wie vor viele Arbeiter und eher einfache Leute sowie eben auch Ausländer. That changed in the 70ths / 80ths many Dortmund Supporters study and Dortmund also gets a right side hooligan scene. At Schalke There are many normal workers in this years and also Immigrants from italy , spain and even some turkish people. Also in this years Schalke have one of the most brutal hooligan group in West germany and There is one of the reasons of this rivlery between Schalke and Dortmund (and a Bad immage of Schalke that exist maybe today a Bit Like Millwall)
+MazzaFifa HD are you actually trying to say Liverpool and Tottenham have the best fans in Europe? I'll tell you this right now. No. I doubt any English club are in the top 5. Dortmund, Galatasaray, Benfica, Sporting, Celtic, Marseille, Athletico, Anderlecht, Partizan, Red Star, are all better than every English clubs fans when it comes to passion. In fact, by far, the best fans in England aren't even in the prem; they're Leeds God bless 'em, I don't even support them and I fucking hate them but if you're going to tell me that that Tottenham outdo fans like Olympiakos, you're just dense. Leave.
You lot should see the Bristol derby. Yes, rovers are in league one and city in the championship but it is always a close game, and the atmosphere is electric. One of the best experiences in football.
EPL is the face of modern football: sterile, boring, plastic and soulless. I just hope arab/russian/etc never ever enters into the Bundesliga. That would kill their amazing football culture.
TheMongooseIncident ohhhhhh ok bananaempijama i would be more cautious of companies taking over a club....like how red bull likes to jizz their name on every team it comes in contact with
Centa92 soll ich dich mal drann errinern damals habt ihr von bayer geld in den arsch geschoben kommen das euer verein weiter am leben bleibt, also halt mal geschweglich deine klappe
+xM4rv' x] Was genau hat jetzt das Eine mit dem Anderen zu tun? Außerdem hätte der Verein sehr wohl weitergelebt, wenn Bayern uns nicht eine kleine Summe für Spielergehälter geliehen hätte. Erst informieren bitte. ;)
I'm a Sunderland fan and this really reminds me of Sunderland v Newcastle. An area of England that has blighted with the closure of mines and shipping industries. Football is life in the North East. You ask every single person in the North East who they support and 99.9% will say Sunderland or Newcastle, even if they aren't hugely interested.
i love how you guys showed the yellow bin, since it is not related to dortmund, but its the bin where plastic goes in and its yellow black wherever you go
I know it’s been 7 years since this comment, they went there in 2018, and that was unbelievable, 2 legs, 4 restarts and the 5th time was played in Spain.
The best part of those derby games are when the fans suddenly start to agree with each other....you have those two groups proclaiming eternal hate for each other and then the Steigerlied plays and suddenly they are singing together. And then the ticker shows that someone scored against the Bayern and they are all cheering together.
Samstag isset wieder soweit. Und ich kann jetzt schon nicht mehr pennen. Auf gehts Schalke kämpfen und siegen. Und ist der Feind gestorben ist lange noch nicht Schluss .......
Nach den Eskalationen in den letzten Jahren/Jahrzehnten ist es ruhiger ums Derby geworden, das stimmt. Ich glaube beide Fanlager wissen, dass sie sich nicht mehr viel erlauben können, sonst macht der DFB und die DFL ihre Drohungen wahr von personalisierten Tickets und ähnlichem. Bundesliga-Vereine stehen einfach mehr im Fokus als "unterklassige Clubs" (soll keine Abwertung sein, ich habe großen Respekt vor nahezu jedem Club). Trotzdem ist die Aufmerksamkeit bei uns einfach größer. Egal ob nun von Seiten der Polizei, der Presse oder sogar der Politik, die sich erstaunlicherweise sehr oft einmischt. Vielleicht lag es auch daran, dass in den letzten Jahren der direkte Konkurrenzkampf ausgeblieben ist. Dortmund war ja oft ein paar Tabellenplätze weiter weg. Erst das letzte Derby mit dem 4:4 hatte wieder richtig Power und Emotionen. Obwohl ich mit dem Ergebnis nicht zufrieden bin, fand ich, es war das spannendste und atmosphärischte Derby der letzten Jahre. Fand es irgendwie Schade, dass die Schalker Fans in der Pause alle gegangen sind. Sonst wäre das wirklich ein Hexenkessel gewesen. Bei all dem Hass muss man einfach anerkennen: Ohne den anderen machts auch irgendwie keinen Spaß, und dann würde es auch kein Derby mehr geben. :)
I follow my local club here in England (Watford FC) and been to many PL / Championship games over the years as well as the lower leagues. A few years ago I spent six months working in Berlin and was fortunate enough to go watch both Hertha and Union Berlin. The difference in atmosphere, involvement, cost and overall enjoyment is like chalk and cheese. Wish it were much more like the German model here.
Hey Eli! I'm a big fan of this series and I think it would be really beneficial if you covered, not only the more 'high profile' derbies but also derbies like Nottingham Forest vs Derby or Leicester and Blackpool vs Preston (these are the best I could think of in the same leagues at the moment but next season you could potentially cover derbies like Swindon vs Oxford or Steel City Derby, what I'm suggesting is basically, some lower profile, lower league derbies!
Signal Iduna Park is a brutal looking place. Most stadiums of that size are bowls: one integrated, curved, flowing space. Iduna is these 4 huge, flat fronted uncompromising stands (OK, filled at the corners) looming over the pitch.
Eng,ish football fans could be the most passionate in the World, the problem is we can't show our passion when we're told to sit down and basically shut up throughout the game
i remember secretely watching this show called "laola" as a boy on sunday nights, which would always show many game highlights of the major, but also minor leagues in Europe. The atmosphere in english stadiums stunned me back then, especially the way the camera would always shake after home goals. I miss it badly and always hope the Bundesliga sees it as an example. It seems like they do care about fans after all
As an American I can say to both clubs if the supporters here have half of the passion both clubs show for something like this than there would be no contest. Amazing!
i would love to see you guys do the Porto and Benfica rivalry, actually, its more of a classico than a derby, but still, its the best experience i have ever had, being at a porto - benfica game
no matter where you look you cannot find a derby like this Schalke and Dortmund not only have enormous fanbases but also the fans themselves are unique. This is what real football is about !!!
The supporters refusing to say the name of the other city reminds me of Ohio State fans who refer to Michigan as "the team up north". All rivalries are the same.
When Schalke Supporters refer to Dortmund, they "Lüdenscheid North", and the Dortmund Supporters refer to Schalke as "Herne West". You can better Look those Up in google Maps :)
These are two entirely different things ^^ you simply can not compare german, or even european football in generell, to american "football", that's played with the hands btw 🤣 But that is an entirely other topic
@@philippgross4939 He talks about the rivalry itself, the sport doesnt matter then. And what he says sounds like the rivalry the supporters in this video describe
In Chile, we can apply this to Colo-Colo fans referring to their rivals Universidad de Chile (or "The U") as "the last vowel". Or in Argentina when Boca refers to River as "Gallinas" (even though River adopted that nickname as theirs)
That's the biggest problem with English football, the atmosphere has completely dissapated. It's like people are watching a fucking opera. Emirates and the swamp are the worst. FA regulations don't help. I was blessed to be around the time of the Kippax for a couple of years at maine road; Now that was a bloody crowd! Hopefully this trend changes soon. Oh and Eli! Sort your hair out mate!
Spot on mate, atmosphere in England for so many games is poor these days, so many real fans are priced out, on the kop for so many games this season, there are day trippers who don't even know most of the songs, and are to busy on there phones taking pics, not even watching the game at times, god knows where they get there tickets from. Its got to the point where away games are far more fun, and that should not be the case. Things will only get worse if clubs don't stop taking the piss with the cost of tickets/season tickets.
Bajan KopKing ***** It's completely frustrating, look at how much Arsenal are charging for match day tickets -£126 ludicrous. It used to be, you worked 9-5 from monday to friday with the game on the weekend being your reward, but a lot of these guys are getting priced out and instead you get knobs in suits who have no passion for the game and are there taking photos. What needs to happen is the F.A need to allow safe standing zones and allow alcohol back into the stand in some areas. The bundesliga is doing this and there haven't been any major problems so far.Mind you, i still get chills when i hear YNWA ring out from the Anfield terraces ;)
pat don to be fair the swamp and the emirates have a reputation for having no atmosphere due to the tourists, a reputatiom they certainly live up to. Etihad isn't great and its definitely a disappointment when compared to Maine road, the atmosphere at every ground seems to be poor, but Trafford and the Emirates are two places with exceptionally poor atmospheres. It's nothing personal, its just an observation, you can take it how you like, though i will say you've attempted to change this through singing sections. To bad you lot haven't had much to sing about recently ;)
unfortunately that's true, and the FA can't be bothered getting off their arses and doing anything about it. Lowering ticket prices and Re introducing standing areas and Alcohol areas should be a start.
101publicenemy I have found the Emirates not to bad to be fair, but I have only been twice and both were eve/night games, 1 in league the other in champ league. Old Trafford for the amount in the ground is a joke, tourist or tourist , they been banging on about how good they were against us lol what a load of shite, first half was you could hear a pin drop from there lot, other than singing the odd song about Stevie G( they obsessed with him) and singing you scouse bastard every 5 min, bit harsh that we thought, Rooney their best player hahah. In general its all about lower ticket prices, so the real fans can go the game together, and be able to sit together, that's why away fans make so much more noise these days.
This is a great vid and I've just subscribed to your channel for the first time. I have been to Germany several times in the past to see St Pauli and one non league side and even there the atmosphere is NOTHING like in England, absolutely incredible. Definitely fan power has a real say in Germany and I would presume to try and buy a ticket would be an impossibility if you are not a season ticket holder.
German fans are passionate and loyal like hell and probably the best in the world along with latin fans. They create an amazing and intense atmosphere. English “fans” - mainly the Premier League fans are turists. No atmosphere from the stands and what’s even worse about english fans..... they only support their club when they’re winning. When trailing, the stands are completely silent or... they leave early. That never happens in The Bundesliga.
Canadyn Hmmm Mate fener are cheaters thats why Aziz went prison again lol Gala will do a come back when I grow up I will show that gala is the best but admitt that Gala is the best in turk ligue
atakan bozdag Yes, on paper, but at the moment according to the league Fener are better, and usually the league isn't wrong. So, that derby will be very interesting to watch with the insanely passionate fans from both sides as well.
Fenerbahçe köpeğine! Fenerbahçe köpeğine! Fenerbahçe köpeğine! Şampiyon Cimbom yazdıracağız! Your match-fixing team shouldn't even be in the Süper Lig. You're lucky the TFF are all Fenev fans. Enjoy UCL next season.... Oh wait.
Coming back to watching these derby days, I miss them lately. Shame the Manchester Derby Day never got a video esspecially in the FA Cup final. Being a United fan myself it was painful to watch and we get slapped by City alot lately.
I think a Roses derby day would be better to show with Leeds and Man United. The Mancs Derby is littered with plastics on both sides, but with the Whites and Reds, only the true ones from Leeds and true ones from Manchester are involved. We may be in the championship but there will still be extra police in London because Leeds and Man U are playing in the same city 1 day apart, that’s how much it the rivalry still exists.
this is a interesting derby, schalke fans are fantastic , every time they sing and roar its just amazing. BVB are also quite passionate, their fans are very patient and supportive of their team. As a Liverpool fan i enjoy watching these kind of derbies compared to el classico and city vs united which is a emotionless derby.
Germanys fan culture is amazing
Our english skills arent😂😂 but thanks
@@wannerknappe0483 hey you try 🙂
WannerKnappe 04 better than our german
@@offsetsface2135 good point😅
Tickets are always affordable and brings in so many fans
England could definitely learn a thing or two from Germany!
Like how to play football & be good at it.
***** Messi better
Barcelona better, real Madrid is Hollywood actors when it comes to soccer
And Germany could learn a thing from England *cough* how to win a war *cough*
Richie Garrett and both of you could learn a thing or two from us South Europeans, like how to make food.
Richie Garrett main thing is we keep beating u in fussball lol
2:25 "Wenn schalke not here in Gelsenkirchen is" 😂authentisch
typisch dumme scheißer :D
When*
Well he tried, for an older man to speak english it was quite good
@@zoon1560 „Da bin ich early also da bin ich ehrlich“ 😉
Better than any Englishman's German (me included)
God, I do love Germany and something like this only makes me love it more! I realise that these clubs (especially Dortmund) are now "global brands" to a certain extent, but the way they actively interact with their fans and seem to balance being big businesses whilst rooted in their communities is really impressive. Being able to negotiate ticket prices directly with the club?? That's very cool.
The points made in the film about standing sections and being able to drink in the grounds are also important as these elements really do add to the raucous and fun atmosphere at German games. I've been to a good few Bundesliga games over the last 5 years or so and every one of them has been an absolute pleasure to behold. I really hope I can taste the Revierderby one of these days!
Dortmund is one of the most profitable clubs in the world. When i think right top10
Didn't know that Ribery was a Borussia Dortmund fan
and then play for bayern Munich
The famous yellow wall, known around the world.. cheers from Sweden
HAUFEN scheiße seid ihr mehr nicht
+18o26 Der Versteht dich bestimmt du Vollidiot
bvb ein Leben lang
Ciao Sweden
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@@nilsmullhauser4423 hahaha hast dem die ehre genommen, typischer scheißer, Strohdumm :D
Die haben einfach die gelbe Tonne als BVB-Symbol gefilmt xD
The Premier League top teams can learn a lot from the attitude these German clubs have for their supporters!
Definitely
Well it's a different setup genius. Their clubs are associations English clubs are just clubs ultras have no say in how clubs are run as most European clubs were part of a bigger centralised structure that included other sports such as volleyball and chess if which you had a member.
English clubs were born out of something more organic and stretch back to the mid 1800s. A few people managing a crowd of thousands wouldn't work in England because fans would just do their own thing.
The so called 'Revierderby' is by far the greatest derby on this planet. Two legendary clubs head to head TWICE a year! Absolutely epic!!
Brilatus Red Star vs. Partizan Belgrade maybe?
DimensiiioN gay derby if the police would be on the level maybe on africa then it would be no fight innstadium in serbia
@@SalehTranslatesStfu up and enjoy it when a superior german is writing to you
nils hd what are you on about your country was brutally dispatched by 3 English teams 10-2, 4-0 3-1 your so called superior German dna don’t mean shit we have already beaten you in two world wars now we are beating you like ragdolls in football aswell just accept that England the place where football was fucking invented is better than Germany at quite literally everything
@@yuehagime8302 Nils is ironic on this one...
I bet he's one of those self hating people from Germany and member of the Antifa, yelling "Death and hate to the German Michel" by not realizing that he's German as well.
Supported Watford for 30+ years home and away but working in Berlin currently and watching FC Union Berlin few weeks back versus the League leaders was a genuine eye opener.
Ticket price, free transport, terracing, atmosphere and people happily drinking or smoking without any hassle - incredible.
The Germans have got football right, very envious of them because in England, especially the Premier League, it's soul has been ripped out with hardly a murmur from the people who once made it what it was.
Oh, and because of some new friends, Schalke every time out of these two :-)
Union 👏
As a Newcastle United fan under the never ending rule of Mike Ashley, i wish that our fan base could come together and retake our club and fans have their own stakes in the club much in the way these two are set up.
British football at the minute is all about the money with owners not giving a fuck about the fans only their profits, fan ownership is a way to retake control and make it about the football again
Wells aid, I feel the same about my club and owner too (I'm a Aston Villa fan)
+Robstar2001 well said*
+Robstar2001 cheers man see you in a few weeks, we'll have a party when we go down together
Well said mate
Well said, but look on the bright side. At least your not a long suffering Blackpool FC supporter with the son of a rapist owning the club and seemingly determined to run it into the ground. Love Blackpool, hate Oyston!
Wish they would have shown more of the atmosphere during the game. I watched the game and especially payed attention to the crowd, knowing copa 90 would document this derby, and the crowd was buzzing, there was sining non stop and it was outstandingly loud all of the game!
12:51 picture of Lewandowski and Goretzka played against each other...fast forward to 2020 they’re both teammates at Bayern. How the times change.
Derby Days are Amazing Vids and they keep getting Better...
Fun fact: If you ask a Schalke fan who went to the stadium in the 70s or even earlier, you might be surprised to hear who THEY consider their arch enemies: Rot-Weiss Essen.
i live in dortmund and it was a harmless derby. you should have been there when dortmund spoiled schalke the trophy in 2007 by winning 2:0. that was atmosphere there...
And now the tables turn, Schalke 4 Dortmund 2
Or the atmospere when Dortmund were leading 4-0 to halftime and Schalke came back 4-4 in the second half ;)
@@antizerooneonefour Platz 14. 😂
Yeah, and the fantastic atmosphere on Borsigplatz 97, when we and blues celebrates two cups in one Pott. Greetings to Herne West, Ruhrpott, Ruhrpott!
@Robert Sprinke one of the best games we played in the last years
Those things can only happen in the revierderby
Germany has the best atmosphere at football matches in the world
Come to Spain or Italy
Eli has really grown into a great presenter, gives great analysis of the atmosphere. This series and host are a perfect match
I am a Schalke 04 fan and just the intro gave me those special goose bumps
I hate football and lived in Dortmund and can say derby match days always had a festive, communal vibe as a city!!! The only 2 days a year where even I watched the games!!
Eli in almost every episode....." This is the most intense derby I've ever been to"
Derby Days with Eli mengem are some of the best videos on copa 90!
BORUSSIA DORTMUND. BEST FANS EVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL, at least 60% who were Borussia Dortmund 'fans' last season are now Wolfburg 'fans'. Admit it.
Thom Kegel bullshit !!!!!!!!
No bullshit, Maybe 60% is a little bit high but AT LEAST 10% changed club. At least in your western-neighbour country.
MrPommes09 bayern are greater than you puny mortals
MrPommes09 MARCO REUS AND BVB FOREVER
Did y’all actually get a shot of Klopp at 4:14? That’s wild.
I thought I was the only one that saw that!
@@Schwaaaang holy shit is that him? Surely not... he would be crowded by bvb supporters.... though i do like the idea of klopp going back to dortmund to see his former side
Dear Eli, your portrait of this derby is priceless as much as timeless. Today the first Lüdenscheid vs. Schalke 04 derby is staged before an empty Signal Iduna Park. It really is a big loss. In any event, whenever some of my American friends want to know what German football is all about, I always share your video with them ... Glück auf!
14:16 'Thats what a derby is all about'
and then the fans were shouting 'son of a b*tch' :D
There are teams in the second tier of German league that have more attendance then some teams in Englands premier league . I think that's crazy and shows Germany has some of best fans in football.
I respect the way Germans go about their football. Low ticket prices and all that. The reason it doesn't work in England anymore is because of the hooligan outrage in the 60s/70s and 80s. The government worked to make football more commercial, especially in the premier league.
But what I can't stand is how most people from other countries only see the premier league clubs- many have lost their atmosphere as they've become commercialized. Most English football clubs have great atmosphere, foreign football fans need to realise that they will find the best atmosphere in lower tier football. Most matches at Millwall the crowd are really hyped and the atmosphere is buzzing and intimidating in some parts
Crystal Palace and Bristol Rovers for example
Sometimes at Stamford Bridge I feel like I'm at a fucking funeral....
Aren't Milwall and Chelsea nazis
@@lukasp5892 you are talking about BvB, right?
Best thing on TH-cam! Keep it up!
Bvb!
This comment makes me feel so old
Mad respect for both clubs.
wie unabsichtlich ultralustig die Deutschen sind, wenn sie versuchen Englisch zu sprechen :)
glaube kaum das englische muttersprachler sich besser anstellen wenn sie deutsch reden (sofern sie nicht hier aufgewachsen sind)
Als ob du keinen Akzent hast, wenn du fremde Sprachen sprichst
Find ich nicht. Ich bin nicht deutsch und bin einfach nur beeindruckt.
Süd tribune 😄
I disagree. Germans sound fine when they speak english. Ive reassured many Germans of this personally. Its only in your head man.
Definitely my favourite series of videos on TH-cam.
I wish we had this kind of football/soccer culture in the US. On top of football/soccer being the best sport in the world so are fans and the community and unity that football/soccer bring is just amazing.
Love the derby days!!! Please do more next season Copa 90!!!!
Der Grund für die Rivalität ist, dass S04 und der BVB die gleiche Geschichte haben und sich sehr ähnlich sind. Sowohl die Clubs, als auch die Menschen. Beides Arbeiterklasseclubs ursprünglich, die heute der Stolz ihrer jeweiligen Stadt sind. Schalke hat mehr Tradition durch die Mythosbegründung in den 40ern und 70ern und Dortmund derzeit mehr Erfolg. Ein Gelsenkirchener, der in Dortmund lebt.
The reason for the rivalry is the same background and history of Schalke und Borussia. Both clubs and people, which live in the relative towns. Both Clubs are very similar and starts as working class Clubs. Today they are the (only) pride of their towns after decline of the industry in the Revier after the 80s. Schalke got more Tradition with the titles in 40s and a succesfull team in the 70s, and Dortmund got more sucess today. A Gelsenkirchener, who lives today in Dortmund
+Freigeist2008
Genauso ist es.
Und insgeheim freust du dich wenn du die Scheiß Bayern Schweine ärgerst.
Egal ob schwarzgelb oder blauweiß,
Nur der S04
Freigeist2008 War so allerdings hat sich die Fanszene geändert in den 80ern , in Dortmund waren viele Studenten aber auch Nazis , auf Schalke waren nach wie vor viele Arbeiter und eher einfache Leute sowie eben auch Ausländer.
That changed in the 70ths / 80ths many Dortmund Supporters study and Dortmund also gets a right side hooligan scene.
At Schalke There are many normal workers in this years and also Immigrants from italy , spain and even some turkish people. Also in this years Schalke have one of the most brutal hooligan group in West germany and There is one of the reasons of this rivlery between Schalke and Dortmund (and a Bad immage of Schalke that exist maybe today a Bit Like Millwall)
I sure hate Dortmund with a passion. But god damn, Schalke and Dortmund easily have the best fans of any clubs in the european top tier.
I dunno it's them, Tottenham and Liverpool
joseph errami Shut up
+MazzaFifa HD are you actually trying to say Liverpool and Tottenham have the best fans in Europe? I'll tell you this right now. No. I doubt any English club are in the top 5. Dortmund, Galatasaray, Benfica, Sporting, Celtic, Marseille, Athletico, Anderlecht, Partizan, Red Star, are all better than every English clubs fans when it comes to passion. In fact, by far, the best fans in England aren't even in the prem; they're Leeds God bless 'em, I don't even support them and I fucking hate them but if you're going to tell me that that Tottenham outdo fans like Olympiakos, you're just dense. Leave.
+MazzaFifa HD besiktas or partizan fans vs tottenham LMAO they'd get fucking murdered!
+joseph errami two clubs who think they are big but big clubs don't worry about them
YEAH, you made a video of the Derby in Germany. PERFECT :D!!!
You lot should see the Bristol derby. Yes, rovers are in league one and city in the championship but it is always a close game, and the atmosphere is electric. One of the best experiences in football.
EPL is the face of modern football: sterile, boring, plastic and soulless.
I just hope arab/russian/etc never ever enters into the Bundesliga. That would kill their amazing football culture.
Like teams or people from those countries?.......getting a racist vibe here.
NegaRen GenX i think he means clubs being bought out by people from those places
TheMongooseIncident yup :)
TheMongooseIncident ohhhhhh ok
bananaempijama i would be more cautious of companies taking over a club....like how red bull likes to jizz their name on every team it comes in contact with
***** its true,51% own club members,49% sponsors, its nice solution,they are the only one in europe that have so called "healthy league"
Beautiful. This is what football is all about.
Kennst du den Mythos, vom Schalker Markt. Die Geschichte die dort begann, der FC Schalke wurde Legende. Eine Liebe die niemals endet.
Kennst du dem Mythos, vom Scheißer Markt. Geschwisterliebe und Verrat. Eine Schande fürs Revier. Hurensöhne, S04.
Centa92 soll ich dich mal drann errinern damals habt ihr von bayer geld in den arsch geschoben kommen das euer verein weiter am leben bleibt, also halt mal geschweglich deine klappe
xM4rv' x] auserdem haben sie Unsere Farben getragen!! Centa92 Eure ersten Farben waren BLAU UND WEIß
+xM4rv' x] Was genau hat jetzt das Eine mit dem Anderen zu tun?
Außerdem hätte der Verein sehr wohl weitergelebt, wenn Bayern uns nicht eine kleine Summe für Spielergehälter geliehen hätte. Erst informieren bitte. ;)
ach, mit BvB idioten unterhalt ich mich nicht! c;
Been waiting for Fenerbahce vs Galatasaray for a longggg time.
Hopefully, if my thoughts are correct it will be the best Derby Days episode yet.
***** Doesn't make you any better calling them bastards.
I'm a Sunderland fan and this really reminds me of Sunderland v Newcastle. An area of England that has blighted with the closure of mines and shipping industries. Football is life in the North East. You ask every single person in the North East who they support and 99.9% will say Sunderland or Newcastle, even if they aren't hugely interested.
Shame that doesn’t happen much anymore since Sunderland are currently garbage
i love how you guys showed the yellow bin, since it is not related to dortmund, but its the bin where plastic goes in and its yellow black wherever you go
How is it that the Video came out in 2014 but the 3 only comments right now are from today
I went to see Dortmund the other week and it was on of the best experiences of my life!
2:05 Ribery is a BVB FAN...WHAT THE FUCK!
Looks nothing like him
Jack Bell
shut up moron
Lemme guess ur american
Rouben Akopian what?
he was when he was a kid
2019 and I still enjoy this video!!!
Boca vs River Plate is a must for this series
It's truly the #1 derby in the world. Coming from a Dortmund supporter...
I know it’s been 7 years since this comment, they went there in 2018, and that was unbelievable, 2 legs, 4 restarts and the 5th time was played in Spain.
The best part of those derby games are when the fans suddenly start to agree with each other....you have those two groups proclaiming eternal hate for each other and then the Steigerlied plays and suddenly they are singing together. And then the ticker shows that someone scored against the Bayern and they are all cheering together.
I'm addicted to this series
Same!
Watching these in random order. Eli you just get better after each derby match.
Samstag isset wieder soweit. Und ich kann jetzt schon nicht mehr pennen.
Auf gehts Schalke kämpfen und siegen.
Und ist der Feind gestorben ist lange noch nicht Schluss .......
Die Grabstätte, die Grabstätte geschändet werden muss!
Nach den Eskalationen in den letzten Jahren/Jahrzehnten ist es ruhiger ums Derby geworden, das stimmt. Ich glaube beide Fanlager wissen, dass sie sich nicht mehr viel erlauben können, sonst macht der DFB und die DFL ihre Drohungen wahr von personalisierten Tickets und ähnlichem. Bundesliga-Vereine stehen einfach mehr im Fokus als "unterklassige Clubs" (soll keine Abwertung sein, ich habe großen Respekt vor nahezu jedem Club). Trotzdem ist die Aufmerksamkeit bei uns einfach größer. Egal ob nun von Seiten der Polizei, der Presse oder sogar der Politik, die sich erstaunlicherweise sehr oft einmischt.
Vielleicht lag es auch daran, dass in den letzten Jahren der direkte Konkurrenzkampf ausgeblieben ist. Dortmund war ja oft ein paar Tabellenplätze weiter weg.
Erst das letzte Derby mit dem 4:4 hatte wieder richtig Power und Emotionen. Obwohl ich mit dem Ergebnis nicht zufrieden bin, fand ich, es war das spannendste und atmosphärischte Derby der letzten Jahre. Fand es irgendwie Schade, dass die Schalker Fans in der Pause alle gegangen sind. Sonst wäre das wirklich ein Hexenkessel gewesen.
Bei all dem Hass muss man einfach anerkennen: Ohne den anderen machts auch irgendwie keinen Spaß, und dann würde es auch kein Derby mehr geben. :)
Fascinating stuff. Good work, man!
This Derby is the sunderland v newcastle of german football a proper Derby
I follow my local club here in England (Watford FC) and been to many PL / Championship games over the years as well as the lower leagues. A few years ago I spent six months working in Berlin and was fortunate enough to go watch both Hertha and Union Berlin.
The difference in atmosphere, involvement, cost and overall enjoyment is like chalk and cheese. Wish it were much more like the German model here.
And now Schalke got relegated so no Revierderby next year. I really hope we will see them again in 2022-2023.
We will see it!
really informative, love this sorta stuff from Copa90
Hey Eli! I'm a big fan of this series and I think it would be really beneficial if you covered, not only the more 'high profile' derbies but also derbies like Nottingham Forest vs Derby or Leicester and Blackpool vs Preston (these are the best I could think of in the same leagues at the moment but next season you could potentially cover derbies like Swindon vs Oxford or Steel City Derby, what I'm suggesting is basically, some lower profile, lower league derbies!
Love this series. Copa90 and Eli, keep up the great work! :D
the Great 'BVB' legendary club.
+Dash_Handtuch Echte Liebe!💛❤💛❤
both (Schalke and Dortmund) are one the biggest clubs in the world. Cheers!
deutschland bundesliga beste fans beste clubs und beste atmosphären und beste geschichten jedes teams
Gala vs ferner is unreal!! Cant wait
Who’s here now that Schalke are about to be relegated
such a tragedy for a big club in germany hope they bounce back asap
Best EVER Copa90 series by a fucking mile
02:02 what Frank ribery, Is that you ?
Signal Iduna Park is a brutal looking place. Most stadiums of that size are bowls: one integrated, curved, flowing space. Iduna is these 4 huge, flat fronted uncompromising stands (OK, filled at the corners) looming over the pitch.
Eng,ish football fans could be the most passionate in the World, the problem is we can't show our passion when we're told to sit down and basically shut up throughout the game
you are not told to
*****
you are wrong, they are.
who ?
he didn't say he sat down did they. but he's right they're told to sit. they don't want them banned or clubs like celtic fined
i remember secretely watching this show called "laola" as a boy on sunday nights, which would always show many game highlights of the major, but also minor leagues in Europe. The atmosphere in english stadiums stunned me back then, especially the way the camera would always shake after home goals. I miss it badly and always hope the Bundesliga sees it as an example. It seems like they do care about fans after all
As an American I can say to both clubs if the supporters here have half of the passion both clubs show for something like this than there would be no contest. Amazing!
Go to a buffalo bills game!!!!!!!
I don't get it
i would love to see you guys do the Porto and Benfica rivalry, actually, its more of a classico than a derby, but still, its the best experience i have ever had, being at a porto - benfica game
Concordo
no matter where you look you cannot find a derby like this Schalke and Dortmund not only have enormous fanbases but also the fans themselves are unique. This is what real football is about !!!
Please, derby days of Celta Vigo-Deportivo A Coruña (Galician derby)
I think i am in love with dortmund , the ULTRAS and the players chemistry between each other specially in DORTMUND is unbelievable
The supporters refusing to say the name of the other city reminds me of Ohio State fans who refer to Michigan as "the team up north".
All rivalries are the same.
When Schalke Supporters refer to Dortmund, they "Lüdenscheid North", and the Dortmund Supporters refer to Schalke as "Herne West". You can better Look those Up in google Maps :)
MN referring to Wisconsin as cheese head.
These are two entirely different things ^^ you simply can not compare german, or even european football in generell, to american "football", that's played with the hands btw 🤣
But that is an entirely other topic
@@philippgross4939 He talks about the rivalry itself, the sport doesnt matter then. And what he says sounds like the rivalry the supporters in this video describe
In Chile, we can apply this to Colo-Colo fans referring to their rivals Universidad de Chile (or "The U") as "the last vowel". Or in Argentina when Boca refers to River as "Gallinas" (even though River adopted that nickname as theirs)
These videos are high class!
No atmosphere at Emirates 😂😂😂
there is no atmosphere ^^
Plastic stadium .
Thank you for these videos, I really appreciate it. I hope to see y'all in Mexico some day.
Schalke ein Leben lang🔵⚪⚒
Great that they put Lars Ricken in the video. (scored in the '96-'97 CL final against Juventus, match ended 3-1.)
That's the biggest problem with English football, the atmosphere has completely dissapated. It's like people are watching a fucking opera. Emirates and the swamp are the worst. FA regulations don't help. I was blessed to be around the time of the Kippax for a couple of years at maine road; Now that was a bloody crowd! Hopefully this trend changes soon.
Oh and Eli! Sort your hair out mate!
Spot on mate, atmosphere in England for so many games is poor these days, so many real fans are priced out, on the kop for so many games this season, there are day trippers who don't even know most of the songs, and are to busy on there phones taking pics, not even watching the game at times, god knows where they get there tickets from. Its got to the point where away games are far more fun, and that should not be the case. Things will only get worse if clubs don't stop taking the piss with the cost of tickets/season tickets.
Bajan KopKing ***** It's completely frustrating, look at how much Arsenal are charging for match day tickets -£126 ludicrous. It used to be, you worked 9-5 from monday to friday with the game on the weekend being your reward, but a lot of these guys are getting priced out and instead you get knobs in suits who have no passion for the game and are there taking photos. What needs to happen is the F.A need to allow safe standing zones and allow alcohol back into the stand in some areas. The bundesliga is doing this and there haven't been any major problems so far.Mind you, i still get chills when i hear YNWA ring out from the Anfield terraces ;)
pat don to be fair the swamp and the emirates have a reputation for having no atmosphere due to the tourists, a reputatiom they certainly live up to. Etihad isn't great and its definitely a disappointment when compared to Maine road, the atmosphere at every ground seems to be poor, but Trafford and the Emirates are two places with exceptionally poor atmospheres. It's nothing personal, its just an observation, you can take it how you like, though i will say you've attempted to change this through singing sections. To bad you lot haven't had much to sing about recently ;)
unfortunately that's true, and the FA can't be bothered getting off their arses and doing anything about it. Lowering ticket prices and Re introducing standing areas and Alcohol areas should be a start.
101publicenemy I have found the Emirates not to bad to be fair, but I have only been twice and both were eve/night games, 1 in league the other in champ league. Old Trafford for the amount in the ground is a joke, tourist or tourist , they been banging on about how good they were against us lol what a load of shite, first half was you could hear a pin drop from there lot, other than singing the odd song about Stevie G( they obsessed with him) and singing you scouse bastard every 5 min, bit harsh that we thought, Rooney their best player hahah. In general its all about lower ticket prices, so the real fans can go the game together, and be able to sit together, that's why away fans make so much more noise these days.
Excellent documentary!!
Galatasaray vs Fenerbahce is a must. Cant wait. I told everyone that the atmosphere at Gala is the best in europe, time to prove it!
you are way too aggressive. what you are doing, is no more football.
says the fucking pom
GLO BOY bro the derby between fenerbahce and galatasaray have the best atmosphere in europe. Its unbelievable
GLO BOY geographical not but political its in europe
GLO BOY Turkey plays in the Europe Quali...
This is a great vid and I've just subscribed to your channel for the first time. I have been to Germany several times in the past to see St Pauli and one non league side and even there the atmosphere is NOTHING like in England, absolutely incredible. Definitely fan power has a real say in Germany and I would presume to try and buy a ticket would be an impossibility if you are not a season ticket holder.
German fans are passionate and loyal like hell and probably the best in the world along with latin fans. They create an amazing and intense atmosphere. English “fans” - mainly the Premier League fans are turists. No atmosphere from the stands and what’s even worse about english fans..... they only support their club when they’re winning. When trailing, the stands are completely silent or... they leave early. That never happens in The Bundesliga.
Thats really not true England has the highest attended second, third, fourth and fifth divisions in the world
I generally didn't realise that this match had such a massive rivalry! Thought it was just another match
Gala vs Fener will be a treat!
Fener is shit mate
atakan bozdag They are on top of the Turkish league, ahead of Gala.
Canadyn Hmmm Mate fener are cheaters thats why Aziz went prison again lol Gala will do a come back when I grow up I will show that gala is the best but admitt that Gala is the best in turk ligue
atakan bozdag Yes, on paper, but at the moment according to the league Fener are better, and usually the league isn't wrong. So, that derby will be very interesting to watch with the insanely passionate fans from both sides as well.
Fenerbahçe köpeğine! Fenerbahçe köpeğine! Fenerbahçe köpeğine! Şampiyon Cimbom yazdıracağız!
Your match-fixing team shouldn't even be in the Süper Lig. You're lucky the TFF are all Fenev fans. Enjoy UCL next season.... Oh wait.
ONLY S04!!!!Greetz from Gelsenkirchen!
Derbysieger 💙💙
Coming back to watching these derby days, I miss them lately. Shame the Manchester Derby Day never got a video esspecially in the FA Cup final. Being a United fan myself it was painful to watch and we get slapped by City alot lately.
I think a Roses derby day would be better to show with Leeds and Man United. The Mancs Derby is littered with plastics on both sides, but with the Whites and Reds, only the true ones from Leeds and true ones from Manchester are involved. We may be in the championship but there will still be extra police in London because Leeds and Man U are playing in the same city 1 day apart, that’s how much it the rivalry still exists.
So basically Emirates Stadium is a library. Everyone knows that
Great video as always! I’d love to see Braunschweig vs Hannover.
I wish they could have done the Old Firm.
Yeah !!!!
I hope we get you in one of the cups next season just for all the publicity it would give the league.
Love the passion.
10:13 sad, I feel hurt
klop went form a team with all heart to a team thats only after prices
Galatasaray vs Fenerbahce is 100% one of the most deadliest derbys around
Kinda ironic to make a youtube video in turkey
irish rover Istanbul is
irish rover Yeah turkey is in africa "facepalm"
River Boca es incomparable
Best episode so far
How come everyone has completely forgotten the newcastle vs Sunderland derby
Best derby in the uk
This series is epic!
BVB-ARIS!Brothers 4 Live!Schalke und Paok sind nur da um uns zum lachen zu bringen^^!
this is a interesting derby, schalke fans are fantastic , every time they sing and roar its just amazing. BVB are also quite passionate, their fans are very patient and supportive of their team. As a Liverpool fan i enjoy watching these kind of derbies compared to el classico and city vs united which is a emotionless derby.