Battle of the Ports - Ys I: Ancient Ys Vanished (イースI) Show 457 - 60fps
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Time Code
00:29 - NEC PC-8801
03:06 - Sharp X1
04:23 - NEC PC-9801
05:07 - MSX 2
06:39 - Famicom
08:02 - Master System
09:53 - Apple II GS
10:28 - Sharp X68000
12:30 - PC Engine CD
15:22 - Saturn
17:46 - All versions running side by side
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This series is amazing. I got addicted to it after playing the excellent Ys VIII which gave it more exposure in recent years. Highly underrated
Still in the middle of playing Ys VIII on my PS5 as of the writing of this comment.
Listening to that opening track for the PCE-CD version, I can tell the inspiration for "The Boy Who Had Wings" from YS III. That's the sort of music that gets you PUMPED for a massive adventure.
I played this first on the Master System and then later on the Turbo Duo. It's a good early action RPG, but the music really takes it to another level. The last 10 minutes or so of the Turbo version is pure joy thanks to the music. There's excellent use of a Moog analog synthesizer in the final ending song. Ys is one of the best game series out there for music fans.
Same with me on the order that I played them; Master System version was good for its time and probably vying for second best adventure/RPG game on the console after Phantasy Star. (Better than Miracle Warriors but I have yet to play Golden Axe Warrior) The franchise really came into its own with the Turbo CD version paired up with Ys II, where it was a true gem for that console and of the 16-bit era in general. Ys is definitely the best series throughout its installments (OST and Arrange considered) and over time for game music to my ears, although there is no shortage of great VG music to go around from other franchises. I'll have to replay the SMS version with the FM sound at some point, as well as the English translated Saturn port in due time.
A game inspired by the ancient city of Ys, a legendary city in Brittany who now lays under the sea in the middle of the Douarnenez bay.
I grew up in Douarnenez, and at night, on some nights with no moon, you could still hear the bells of the city of Ys….
Actually my football team when i was young was ‘les Gas d’Ys’, the guys of Ys.
And in Quimper, the big city next door, on the cathedral, there is a statue of King Gradlon, the legendary king of Ys.
No flipping way.
Interesting story.
Another excellent episode. I honestly had no idea there were so many ports or that it was released for the famicom in japan. I was only even aware of this game, thanks to the Master System release. I'm hoping there's an English translation for the SEGA Saturn, as that looks fantastic!!
There was a Saturn patch in the works but I'm not sure if it was ever completed.
The X68000 version you're playing here seems to be the PC-98 accurate modern version released by BEEP and Falcom themselves from 2021. The 1991 X68000 iteration is the one made by Dempa, with the title screen graphic by Yoshitaka Amano and an entirely different art style WITH pre-rendered bosses
Bummer, I didn't know about that version.
@@RetroCore Figures. It's a forgotten relic in the Ys microcosm
I remember when Ys Book I & II got released for the Wii Virtual Console, I bought it day one. I never had TG-16 as a kid but always wanted one and always read how great Ys was on the TG-CD. This game was hard near the end, but I had such a blast playing it! Oh yeah, the soundtrack is fantastic too!!
The end tower is a real pain. Having to go up and down all over the place.
For an early PCE/TG16 CD game, Ys 1 & 2 was very well done with the music and cut scenes. I really need to go back and play through it again sometime soon. I'm sure it will bring back all sorts of early 90s memories!
I didn't realize the Saturn port was such a big shift. Now I need to get that version, and fortunately prices aren't totally insane on it.
The artwork is pure 90"s anime.
The amount of ports and remakes this game has had in over 30 years speaks volumes how amazing this game is.
I didn't know about the existence of the saturn version. Spectacular those menu sounds and tremendous music. It is worth playing in every way the best version. Greetings from Argentina 🇦🇷
Sadly outside of Japan many people just don't understand how many great games were on the Saturn. In Japan the Saturn sold well.
I loved the quiet, "Wait for it" moment when introducing the PC Engine/Turbografx 16 version. That's the first one I owned. I let the intro play over and over when I first popped the disc in back then. It was amazing!!!
Ah, indeed. Can't interrupt that awesome intro.
I used to put various TG-16 CD games in my 5 disc changer to listen to when I was laying in bed all night (occasionally awakened to the horrendous buzzing sound from Track 2, which was the data for the game...but you just hit next on the remote lol), and Ys I & II was the most listened to by far. Definitely some of the greatest video game music of all time, and the the track you used at the end with the bass drum and water drop sound was always a favorite!
I'm surprised your CD player played those data tracks. Every CD player I've had just plays silence.
My introduction to the Ys series was the Sega Mastersystem game. Played it so much during that era. At the time I didn't know how to pronounce the games title or anything about Falcom. Friend introduced me to the Turbo Grafx 16CD game Ys books 1-2 and I was beyond amazed! The music is so attached to me, that I find my self humming it randomly. I absolutely love the Palace theme from the TG16CD with the dripping water. Excellent review! Awesome to see that the series is still going strong.
Don't feel bad. I bet everyone who couldn't read the Japanese イース Would call it "whys". I know I sure did back in the day.
Wow, one of the best episodes in recent months, YS I have always heard of but never played, even in a recent version, for the times it was really futuristic.
Glad you enjoyed the show. I like doing the RPG shows but due to the amount of time it takes to gather footage, I can't do them often.
@@RetroCore I completely understand. It would be nice to see an episode dedicated to Eye of the Beholder or Dungeon Master.
I played the port on the original master system console several times. But when I saw the Sega Saturn version I was impressed by its great graphic and sound quality. Excellent game !!!
Couldn't agree more!
God i love Ys its gotta be in my top 10 favorite games series also probably my favorite music of any series ever
It really needs more love in the west cant wait for Ys X when it releases
This is the BOTP I’ve been waiting for, as always amazing job! It’s a shame that you couldn’t get the Apple IIGS version working. The best emulator for the IIGS right now is MAME, but it does take a bit of setup to get it working right.
The IIGS version has similar graphics to the PC-8801 version but the music is synthesized Ensoniq rather than FM. It’s like having a Roland MT-32 version of the soundtrack and is really unique. I was introduced to Ys with the IIGS version and it’s special to me. But I’m glad it’s represented here, thank you!!
My 1st CD game was Ys Book I & II for the TurboGrafx CD. The soundtrack is so fine, that I kept my Ys games CDs solely for that. I also still have Ys III for TGCD.
Man, I have such strong nostalgia for the PC Engine version…love that soundtrack!
Thanks for mentioning the soundtrack for this classic RPG, it's a high achievement for videogame history indeed. I love to listen to the PC-88's originals... It's a proof of Yuzo Koshiro's mastery of composition, along with his partner Mieko Ishikawa in here. The title screen theme still gives me chills to my spine...
As for the game itself, I couldn't explore it that much, and back in the day, for me as a Brazilian, I first heard of it when it came to the Master System. Not my favorite version, though. That was the PC Engine CD one, for sure, until... Gosh, look at that Saturn port!!!!!!! I've got to try it someday.
Thanks for the episode and, please, continue with the RPGs whenever you can!
Hah,outro brasileiro aqui. Já conheci Ys via emulação.Além da versão magnífica do PC Engine também completei a original do PC 8801 (há um ótimo emulador para ele no Sony PSP),além do remake para PC/PSP.
I'd love to cover more RPGs but they do take a very long time to record. The only version of this game I played to completion was the Saturn port. I had played the PC Engine version quite a lot though in the past.
Oo, a naked lady giving me the blue ball!
I was taken back how nice that "Cave Music" sounds on the Sharp X1. I'll need to find emulated music from this.
I have the Master System version, but when I bought the game it didn't come with the manual but it did come with painstakingly-drawn maps from (presumably) the last owner. Excellent video!
I had the Master System version too as a kid. I've never completed that one. The only version I ever completed was the Saturn release.
I started Ys with Ys Seven on PSP and wanted to know more about this franchise I heard so much from french magazines when they talked about games that never came out here (aside for Ys 1 on the SMS). So I took Ys I & II Complete and then Felghana, Origins... and now I'm a big fan :p
It's a great series with most games being very enjoyable.
What a fantastic soundtrack, when I think of the Western dungeon crawlers I was playing just a few years later which still had dead silent dungeons they really were missing something when it came to building atmosphere.
I remember seeing a video about the Ys series years ago and was amazed on what it was like. I eventually got the PC-CD version on the Wii VC but didn't get far into it as the combat was a bit different to me but was still immersed with the look and sound of the game. I eventually got into the series when the 7th game on the PSP came out.
I've got to admit, The Ys soundtrack does sound really good! Never really played this game, but it's so interesting! Massively Underrated!
What a joy to hear. You really dj'd this!
Great work.
We love this beautiful classic action rpg!
The overworld background music is great in nearly all versions.
Anything from the Y's series is A-Okay with me Mark. Always enjoy playing the games. 8^)
Anthony...
This 'ys' a nice battle of the ports;thanks!!
Another great BOTP. Great soundtrack, especially the Saturn.
Thanks, 👍
Great video. The "bump" combat is not my favorite, however I have fond memories of the Ys series. As living in the US it's interesting to see the other versions in Japan
Great video, Mark. Though I saw Ys Book 1 & 2 in magazines and remember seeing the Master System version for sale at Sears (and you had the Saturn games in your early videos), the first time I actually played Ys 1 was with 1&2 Chronicles+ when it hit Steam a decade or so back. I really enjoyed it, and I regret not buying the Master System version in the 90s (I had/have a PBC but never a [working] SMS). I could have played it or the Turbo CD version via emulation too at some point, but never did (need to get back and play it some more on the TG16 mini...)... The only one in the series I played before the 2010s was Ys III, which I've owned since a bit after I saw it in a friend's SNES Nintendo Player's Guide. I remembered the Ys name and thought the side-view was cool, so I rented the Genesis version, loved it, and ended up buying a copy. I should play more of the series, but dedicating the time is always a problem...
Even though I've owned the Saturn games for years, I'd never completed them until this year.
I also owned the Master System version at one point and still have my original PC Engine version which I really should try to complete.
Congratulations from Brazil. 🇧🇷 Seeing my beloved Master System on the list (which I have until this day) made my eyes shine. I didn't know how this game could be so fun. You got a subscription and a Patreon. Keep going with the Battle of the Ports!
Hi Frankz, thanks for subscribing and becoming a Patreon of the channel. I saw your Patreon entry on Monday. Thank you very much!
Glad you like the show. There's a lot of content on the channel, please feel free to check it all out. 👍
Wow this sure did get a lot of ports. I've been waiting to play this on my PC Engine for a while now; as I wanted to play it in Japanese, I think I am now up to the task...What I have played of it though was a lot of fun.
I have the PC Engine version too but have never gone trough the entire game. The Saturn version is the only one I've completed.
Ys 1 is a great adventure. I had the Master System PSG version. Thanks for the comparison.
You're welcome.. Thanks For watching.
I just finished the android version and it was an Amazing game. Thx to the switch I experienced Ys Ix and VIII and am very happy with these games
You can save anywhere in all versions of the game, unless you meant that X68k and PCE introduce more save slots.
Could've also shown the odd X68k boss sprites in the footage, never seen them before.
Btw you can sprint in the Saturn version which has heavy consequences on game balance.
Still a neat little summary of the ports.
I'm really happy for Falcom. The Ys and Legend franchises are finally getting the respect they deserved in the west. And collecting them is a good investment too. My current collection is worth up to 3x the price I originally paid.
I was only familiar with the game from the NEC release in the states for the Turbo CD- it is fascinating to see it on so many other systems!
What a coincident. You put video about Ys (on which i was waiting eagery, by the way) in a day i started playing Turbogrfx version and experiencing Ys series first time :D Anyway, when counting everything this game have suprsingly for me many versions, ports and remakes.
Thanks... used to play the SMS version quite a bit!
Nice. The Master System version was my first look in to the world of Ys as well.
Fun to see the Apple 2gs, even if it’s just the splash screen complete with graffiti from the hacking team.
So true but at least they informed us that Jamaican wakibacki is the best 😂
excellent video as usual
Thanks.
Great game, great series. I have even been enjoying the more recent VIII and IX on the PS4. Still going strong to this day.
Hooray! One of my favorites! 😁
I personally feel they did a really good job with the music in the Famicom version, but maybe that's just me
Also, the original PC-88 version allowed you to move faster by hitting the Caps Lock key and required a data disk to save your progress
Ah yes, that is right.
Definitely the channel for Saturn win's...🎉
I do love the Saturn.
I've first played this one on a Master System adapter for the Mega Drive in late 1992. The one thing that stuck with me was the Battle song. Every now and then I catch myself humming it without thinking. We all have some silly nerd blemish. xD
wow .. nice video !!
Thanks.
The Ys series is so underrated! I am surprised how many jpn home computer ports there. I personally am more of a fan of the console ports though, but that may be because I discovered the early games through emulation.
There's also a Fujitsu FM77 version but I can't get that running.
I remember switching the PC version music with the saturn, there was a patch for translation the FMV & other stuff!
Never played any of those old versions TBH, one thing to note I finished the last boss first try with only 1 HP !!!!!
It was a blind playthrough where I died to scrubs because I didn't know how to hit them indirectly DUH🙃
You killed the last boss with 1 hit point left or did the entire boss battle with 1 hit point?
@@RetroCore 😅😅 started battle full health then boss died when I only had 1 Hp... I kept shaking for 20 minutes afterwards !!!!
I have a fact if you listen to the song "The Coldest Days of my Life" by The Chi-Lites, you'll see similarities between that in Feena's Theme
And then the PCE version just rocked up in sun glasses and sporting a black leather jacket......
I had this one on the Master System, my first RPG. What a fascinating game it was at that time. The hud is very simple on this version because it is made of sprites, so not much can be display. The Master System doesn't have a hardware vertical raster effect so it can't have a hud made of background with a vertical scrolling (or the vertical scrolling must be software coded which make it very choppy like in Shinobi)
It's a shame about the HUD on the Master System version.
Looks like youtube noticed I am a huge ys fan and recommended this video. Great comparisons. Didn't know there was a sega saturn port with new arrangements
Glad you enjoyed the video.
Amazing video.I love the feeling of adventure and the sense of mystery from the original Ys trilogy, the same developers founded Quintet and created Soul Blazer, Illusion of Gaia and Terranigma.
You only missed one version: the other Sharp X6800 release by Dempa,with more realistic sprites and new artwork by Yoshitaka Amano.Was it a remake?I only played it briefly via emulator half a decade ago but did not spot any major differences in gameplay.
I also missed the MS Dos and Fujitsu FM77 versions. The FM77 version I own but can't run it.
oh i need to look for that saturn version.
thanks dude
It would be cool to see "Platoon" in Battle of the Ports. There is enough material to cover for a reasonable episode. Grat job as always.
Platoon? I know of the home Euro versions. There's a NES version too isn't there? I'll add it yobtge list.
@@RetroCore There are versions for almost all microcomputers of those years and a Nes version from Sunsoft. If I'm not mistake, it is the first game based on a war movie.
Nice was wondering which one is the best to play.
Good vid.
Before internet, I called this game Why's.
Don't worry,. So did I 😊
The Famicom version of Ys was developed by Advanced Communication, the same people responsible for Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde on the Famicom.
Ok there are a couple omissions here.
A. The DOS port by Broderbund
B. The ORIGINAL X68000 port by Dempa. The one you have here is actually the one done by Beep from two years ago.
There two on the X68000? I thought it was odd that the X68000 version was rather basic.
Hi. There are two different x68000 versions of the gsme. The one you are showing wad a VERY recent port that came out a couple years back as a special release.
The first x68000 version had completely different sprites and artwork and a title screen with art by Yoshitaka Amano.
th-cam.com/video/zag4hmPdyvM/w-d-xo.html here is a long play of the original x68000 version
Adol's seen so much adventure, yet never seems to age, those adventures must take place in a close proximity of time. Ys III has always been more my liking, but if I have to choose a favorite version of Ys 1, it would be the PCE CD version, though the Saturn version has some nice character portrait artwork. Not to mention you get the second game on the PCE on the same disc as well, pretty tough to top.
Some day I do want Ys IV Mask of the Sun, V, and V Expert in my game collection, though with the Japanese language barrier, they could prove hard to play and beat.
I remember playing Ys IV on the SFC. Can't say it was a good experience but maybe that is just a poor version?
Oh man! More Nihon Falcom goodness!
The opening level has an enemy I like to call “Not Groot”. Adol bumps into him and says “I am not Groot”. Did Falcom get in trouble with Marvel for that? No! Because it didn’t even happen! I doubt Stan Lee had ever heard of Ys. Rest in peace legend.
PC-engine FOREVER !!!!!!
I enjoyed a lot this BotP. I fell absolutely in love with the Master System port. Best RPG of the system next to Phantasy Star, of course. I have my PAL version of the game but don't have FM modul 😕.
Saturn version is the best one for me.
Glad you enjoyed the show.
Kinda feels like the Saturn version was the prototype for the first remake version (Ys Eternal), at least graphically. Though I can see why the line was drawn where it was since the remakes start adding a lot of content.
Yep, I did try the PSP and DS game but decided that they had far too many changes to include them.
The Ys game are my favourete RPG series the best version of the first games i have played is the pc engine versions but i first completed Ys 1 on the master system and loved it, i just got 1 game left in the series to complete and that the stratagy game on the ds i have played seems ok but i need to play through it. the saturn version has got a translations now i need to play through it.
Dang that 🍎 2GS emulation. Just like the one here I couldn't get Another World/Out of This World to function due to the controls. Really need that to work so I could record get it's soundtrack. Fortunately with The Ancient World of Ys I've been blessed that somebody uploaded a full OST. That helps allot.
This was first ys game I played it back during ps3 and I played a little bit because I didn’t know Japanese language and yes it was free on Japanese ps+
Free is a great deal if Japanese was your native language.
Ah! I was looking forward to see the Fujitsu fm77av version reviewed by you 😢
Sadly I can't feature any FM77 stuff because the good emulators for that system all require a PC running a 32bit version of windows. Out of the 4 PC's I own, all are 64bit. I really need to get a little windows XP 32bit system for stuff like the FM77.
@@RetroCore i have 2 here at home in paris you can come anytime ! 🙂
I think You should include new ports like NDS too, they are part of YS history too. I was sure that Saturn version got unofficial English translation. Anyway awesome video, YS got great soundtrack.
Covering the original versions was a big job. After seeing how different the chronicles versions were I decided to skip them.
By the way, I notice nobody asked where the Fujitsu FM77 version was 😅. I do have that but have no way to run it.
The western Master System version actually tells you how to pronounce the name. On the title screen, to the right of the Ys logo, are the international phonetic alphabet symbols i: and s - when said together (i:s) they form the sounds of "ee" and "ss" as in Greece or peace. It is not like cheese or freeze because that would need the IPA symbol z to give the harder sound.
I didn't realise this until some years later. I'd been pronouncing it as waɪz, like the word wise, thinking it meant more than one 'Y'. :-)
That's so true but let's be honest. Many can't even read English correctly, so they're not going to be able to understand the phonetic symbols.
Y's is awesome ❤
It sure is 👍
Series I just never got into, couldn't see what the fuss was about tbh ✌️
Maybe try the 3rd game. That is a side scrolling adventure.
@@RetroCore thanks, I'll look it up :)
I like being told what to do before commenting.
Err, okay. Thumbs up please 👍
Wish Falcom classics made it over to the PS1 though but that’s just me. The OG PlayStation is the king of RPGs after all. As I can recall, this would have to be the first Ys game I ever played before becoming a fan of the IP like I am now.
Maybe that's why it never went to the PlayStation. Too much competition.
For the Apple IIGS, I tried with GSPlus emulator and it worked. Had to use the numpad to move. Can probably remap that, but it's my first experience this emulator.
That's the problem I have, I use a Razor mechanical keyboard on my emulation PC but it has no Number pad section.
@@RetroCore oooooooh! lol
Here's my review, it's pretty bad. Considering how complicated it is to run it, it's not worth it. Plus on the emulator there is massive screen tearing when moving laterally.
Never known there was a Saturn Port😱
Not many people do. The 2nd game is also on the Saturn on Falcom Classics 2.
@@RetroCore
How's it ?
Is It true that It was ported to Nintendo DS?
Thanks for the great video, any reason you spelled it Y's (incorrectly), instead of Ys (correct) btw?
I know some western releases had the wrong spelling, but the fanbase should know by now that was incorrect in those days 😁
I just went with how I remember it being written at the time. But you are right. It should by Ys.
I was about ready to say the Turbografix CD version slaughters the rest of the non-remake competition. However, the Saturn version seems not too shaby. Though I still prefer the remixes of the Turbografix CD.
The Saturn version is missing all the cool cut scenes of the PC Engine version which is a shame but besides that, I do like it a lot.
the misic is so good 🎶🎧😑🎧🎶
Hey is there two X68k versions? This one looks way different than the one I am familiar with. This one is more like the NEC PC versions and the one I have played was by Denpa and looks more like the Saturn version.
Yep, found thag out after making the video.
Where the 3D pre rendered bosses at in the X68000 version? It certainly isn't showed here!
In the original release.
I regret not getting a complete in box master system copy sooner. It’s gone up in price quite a bit. Can go anywhere from $100-130.
Wow, that is a lot of money for a Master System game.
@@RetroCore golden axe warrior complete is going for $275-$300 these days.
Never take the same ship as Adol!
Good advice 😊
I was waiting this one since long ago. Like others said, too bad the MS-DOS version (which is quite similar to the Apple II GS version, but with worse music) and the original X68000 version by Dempa are not present. Are you going to continue forward with Ys II and Ys III?
I'm thinking of doing 3 next as 2 is similar to part 1. Plus if I do 3 I can take the piss out of the awful PC Engine scrolling 😋
Ys games or final fantasy people? I'd go with final fantasy by just a hair. Great battle of the ports this weekend Mark.
Final Fantasy 6 (3) is my favourite.
The FC version of course it is the worse of all, it was developed by Advance Communication, who also made *Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde* and *Funky Horror Band* on MCD. They also ported Ys II and III to the system as well.
Now that explains why it's so bad. I can understand wanting to change the graphics but why change the maps and location of people?
Are you sure that is the right footage for the X68 version? Because it looks nothing like the version I've seen before and didn't really match your description either.
It turns out that was a re-release by Beep and Falcom. With having yo play so many versions of Ys, I didn't actually play the X68000 version much.
@@RetroCore wow, So there's two versionsnummer on the X68000? And I thought keeping track of all versions were tricky enough as it is :D
man, my childhood game, never finished it, but if i want to play ys series, what is the best one ?
The series is big. I've only played 1 to 5 with 3 being my favourite. It is tough though. Play 3 on the Mega Drive if you can.
@@RetroCore thank you sir
Was the soundtrack a collaboration by the musicians, or did each artist work solo on some tracks without the others?
That I'm not so sure about.
@@RetroCore I've been looking at numerous websites and there is widespread disagreement. Still, one thing that everyone (or at least most of us) can agree on is that it's a classic. One of my favourites!
What makes the later versions so different as to warrant them not being included, out of curiosity?
They have new story sections added and scenes. They could be compiled as their own collection video.
i played the master system version first back in the day, later got the psp remakes then went back and played the Sega Saturn version... yuzo koshiro's music in this is deservedly famous., all the tracks are incredible, but ive always thought the track that plays in the caves ("Beat of the Terror") sounds like a cross between the stuff he would do in Revenge of Shinobi and Actraiser... i guess my point is it sounds like a good starting point that would branch into those two different sounds..well, if he wrote that track, maybe it was Ishikawa... oh well, either way the beginning of the PC Engine CD version is the greatest opening... still gives ya the feels..i only played it thru emulation, but i knew of it at the time..