Your videos remind me of my art class. The teacher is a philosophy fanatic and is constantly getting sidetracked in debates and discussions. Your videos have provided ample fodder for discussion during that class.
How can love be different for different people? How can you love your parents, kids, spouse or football team? Because you make it up in your own head. It's whatever you imagine it to be. That's why it's so hard to get and stay together. We all expect different, though not totally different things from love. Nothing, and I mean nothing explains love as accurately as this.
ty man now I have my representation in the class now I'm bit confused. on what he wrote because I haven't fully love someone but it opens me more about love it was a good video bro many thx ❤️
The kind of love Fromm describes may exist, in a perfect world. It may even be real. But it misses the wholle point of romantic love. It assumes that you define yourself independently from the person you love. This kind of love could never give you the fulffilement and the sense of meaning that romantic love can give you. In romantic love you are not yoursel alone. You are what your partner is because you love him and he is what you are beacause he loves you. Your don't have to do anything. You feel whel when you are with the one you love and that feeling is the most powerfull feeling in earth I'm sorry to say that bit the way Froom talks about is a kind of slavery, not love. Only a parent could love his chid this way and it's the way things are meant to be. But regarding romantic love, Froom couldn't be more wrong. I stick to "Romeo and Juliet" (Deny thy name) or Tristan Und Isolde
These elements are very much conditional in a romantic relationships Because to keep your individuality in check you have to protect yourself from overdelivering and underachieving All these should be conscious decisions and not out of arbitrariness
I think one way to preserve your individuality is to ensure that your love extends to yourself as well as your lover. A self respecting person would not put themselves in a subservient position. A responsible lover understands how potentially damaging it is to love another when there is a lack of love for oneself. A caring lover knows they can give more love when they love themselves. And someone knowledgeable about themselves will be happier in a relationship because they know and can express how they'd like to be loved.
I think unconditional love and self-preservation aren't mutually exclusive. As the commenter above stated, love extends to yourself as well. For if you don't love yourself, I'd argue you're not capable of loving someone else in the true sense of the word. If you don't love yourself, the "love" you give others is transactional, because you expect to gain something in return. So if you do love yourself, you will not allow yourself to be hurt needlessly by others. This on the surface does have the optics of transactionality (if that's a word), but in its essence it's different.
I have one criticism of Fromm's four elements and that is with Knowledge of the other person. There are some people (including myself to an extent) who suffer from limerence and fall in love too easily. Taken to extremes, these people can fall in love with celebrities or become obsessed with people when they don't even know if they share any values. Considering these kind of people really exist, I don't think Knowledge is necessary.
@@sardonicsister8502 = YEAH THAT 1S IS A DILLUSION IN THE IDEA OF WHAT WE BELIEVE THE PERSON 2 BE HAVING NEVER TRULY EXPERIENCED THEM AT ALL = THE SAME THING CAN HPPEN WITH PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE = WE CANT TRULY SEE A PERSON WHEN THROUGH ALL OUR DISTORTED BELIEFS & IN TIME = U COME 2 SEE THAT ITS THIS DIVINE BALANCING ACT @ PLAY THE GOTCHA MOMENT IS INTERGRATING THAT WHICH YOU PROJECT ON 2 OTHERS AS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALWAYS A REPRESENTATION OF SOMETHING IN YOURSELF = THE SAME WITH NEGATIVE PREJECTIONS ITS EASIER 2 REALISE IN TERMS OF THE UNCONCIOUS PATERNS & JUDGEMENTS =
Fromm is among my favorite psychoanalysts. Looking forward to this
I found an island in your arms,
Country in your eyes,
Arms that chained us, eyes that lied,
Break on through to the other side.
太棒啦，还有这样的哲学动画🎉
Your videos remind me of my art class. The teacher is a philosophy fanatic and is constantly getting sidetracked in debates and discussions. Your videos have provided ample fodder for discussion during that class.
Always waiting for your videos.
Can't wait
thank you for this
How can love be different for different people? How can you love your parents, kids, spouse or football team? Because you make it up in your own head. It's whatever you imagine it to be. That's why it's so hard to get and stay together. We all expect different, though not totally different things from love. Nothing, and I mean nothing explains love as accurately as this.
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ty man now I have my representation in the class now I'm bit confused. on what he wrote because I haven't fully love someone but it opens me more about love it was a good video bro many thx ❤️
This was a great video
The kind of love Fromm describes may exist, in a perfect world. It may even be real. But it misses the wholle point of romantic love. It assumes that you define yourself independently from the person you love. This kind of love could never give you the fulffilement and the sense of meaning that romantic love can give you. In romantic love you are not yoursel alone. You are what your partner is because you love him and he is what you are beacause he loves you.
Your don't have to do anything. You feel whel when you are with the one you love and that feeling is the most powerfull feeling in earth
I'm sorry to say that bit the way Froom talks about is a kind of slavery, not love. Only a parent could love his chid this way and it's the way things are meant to be.
But regarding romantic love, Froom couldn't be more wrong. I stick to "Romeo and Juliet" (Deny thy name) or Tristan Und Isolde
These elements are very much conditional in a romantic relationships
Because to keep your individuality in check you have to protect yourself from overdelivering and underachieving
All these should be conscious decisions and not out of arbitrariness
I think one way to preserve your individuality is to ensure that your love extends to yourself as well as your lover. A self respecting person would not put themselves in a subservient position. A responsible lover understands how potentially damaging it is to love another when there is a lack of love for oneself. A caring lover knows they can give more love when they love themselves. And someone knowledgeable about themselves will be happier in a relationship because they know and can express how they'd like to be loved.
I think unconditional love and self-preservation aren't mutually exclusive. As the commenter above stated, love extends to yourself as well. For if you don't love yourself, I'd argue you're not capable of loving someone else in the true sense of the word. If you don't love yourself, the "love" you give others is transactional, because you expect to gain something in return.
So if you do love yourself, you will not allow yourself to be hurt needlessly by others.
This on the surface does have the optics of transactionality (if that's a word), but in its essence it's different.
cool
I have one criticism of Fromm's four elements and that is with Knowledge of the other person. There are some people (including myself to an extent) who suffer from limerence and fall in love too easily. Taken to extremes, these people can fall in love with celebrities or become obsessed with people when they don't even know if they share any values.
Considering these kind of people really exist, I don't think Knowledge is necessary.
well, Fromm’s criticism would be that we don’t “fall in love” to begin with. we “stand” in it. what you are describing would not be love to Fromm.
@@sardonicsister8502 = YEAH THAT 1S IS A DILLUSION IN THE IDEA OF WHAT WE BELIEVE THE PERSON 2 BE HAVING NEVER TRULY EXPERIENCED THEM AT ALL = THE SAME THING CAN HPPEN WITH PEOPLE IN REAL LIFE = WE CANT TRULY SEE A PERSON WHEN THROUGH ALL OUR DISTORTED BELIEFS & IN TIME = U COME 2 SEE THAT ITS THIS DIVINE BALANCING ACT @ PLAY
THE GOTCHA MOMENT IS INTERGRATING THAT WHICH YOU PROJECT ON 2 OTHERS AS SOMETHING THAT WAS ALWAYS A REPRESENTATION OF SOMETHING IN YOURSELF = THE SAME WITH NEGATIVE PREJECTIONS ITS EASIER 2 REALISE IN TERMS OF THE UNCONCIOUS PATERNS & JUDGEMENTS =
Limerence is NOT love, it's objectification.
as said by others already, limerence is not love, so it's not actually a valid criticism of Fromm's framework
GOOD ANIMATION = SOUND QUALITY BUT SKIPPED OUT ON THE KEY 85 % OF THE CORE POINTS 2 RAMBLE & JOKE ABOUT THINGS THAT HAD NOTHING 2 DO WITH THE BOOK
Addressing Erich Fromm in the most shallow way! 🙈
No offense...
Read books...there is zero valuable information on youtube