I bought the I5 and Tesla Y at the same time. Tesla has many advantages, but the I5 has much better comfort when it comes to seats (incl. adjustment options), very comfortable shock absorbers and sound level. Comfort are more important to me and that's why I sold the Y.
Thank you for sharing your XPrience. This is very useful comparison from a real world user. May I ask where you live and how the power consumption were between the two? I also value comfort, consumption and safety.
Hi Lars-Einar, what about the self-driving functions of the Tesla? I am primarily looking at buying a Tesla because of its self-driving capabilities. I haven't found another car brand AI that can literally steer away from someone almost hitting you on the side, or drive a few metres forward if a car behind you is about to hit you. See the videos called " Tesla Autopilot Saves " to understand what I mean.
@@anmimanma7224 I sold the Tesla Y quick; but the impression is that the Y has lower consumption, specialy on the motorway above 100 km/h. I live in the south of Norway. The charging in winter is between 60-140 kwh. But the I5 is getting preheat like Tesla, then it will charge fast again 🙂
All the issues that you find "annoying" are software and have been fixed with an OTA software update. This is a very new car even in Jan 2022, and was even much newer (and unreleased?) back in Sep 2021. So relax and test drive a much newer and released unit. Cause all your issues have been fixed with the latest software update. And the IQ5 obliterates every other EV out there.
@@dianehoag682 For 2023 they added a digital rearview mirror which is much better than any rear wiper, and then some. Cause none of the rear passengers or cargo could ever block your view.
I have tesla 3 performance and honestly, I am not using anymore that acceleration. It is quite useless. Sometimes when I need to get on the highway through the ramp, - I'm pushing acceleration, - but not that much. It's like why would I mess with my tires if I can provide to them extra life span. What exact situations you need that acceleration for? To show off?
Hold in the lock key for 3-5 sec then the bottom startup 3-5 t then after you can hold in forward/ backwards to move the car whilst outside, it works in Norway.
I feel the same way, just because I'm a tesla owner that doesn't stop me from appreciating what the competition is offering. The thermal throttling would be a deal breaker for me but hopefully they can fix that by a software update. I thought the Ioniq 5 allowed you to use it as a electric powerstation to run devices of your choosing I.e toaster, microwave etc. Why can't tesla have this with their vehicles. Imagine a EV stranded with low battery and you can come along and give them a quick top up to get home or to a charging station. Wish my M3 had that option.☹ Still a fun car for me to drive but could be better and have way more usable features like the peer to peer charging.
@@brianlewis8320 the Ioniq 5 does indeed allow you to power appliances. Not full V2L yet, so you wouldn't plug the house into it, but still a nifty feature - I have visions of going to freedom camping sites once ours turns up and still being able to boil water in a jug or take a microwave to make life a bit easier - and blow up the airbed for comfort.
The parking assistent work in Norway! You first have to push «lock», then push the «hold» button till you hear the car start. Then you can forward or backword With the remote.
The thermal throttling I havent experienced with mine (P45) in Germany. My standard route has an Ionity HPC in the middle of a no-limit part of the autobahn - from full speed to HPC charging to full speed again is no problem, tested several times at different temperatures.
First of all Kris, thank you for a great video. I decided to go for the Ioniq5, because I’m a child of the 80’s. I love this car.I understand that you either have to love or hate this car, but for me it’s a beautiful car. I am just waiting for Dr Emmett Brown to rise from the backseat, turn on a couple of buttons and then were Airborne✈️ I considered the Mustang and a few other options, but because I’ve had three other Hyundai’s prior to this, I decided to stick with that, since I have been very satisfied with the others. But already after a short while I started to experience some of the problems you referred to in your video/review. Especially that irritating moment when you put yourself in the car and it will not go into drive??? Can anyone who reads this and have experienced it please give me some advice? Do you know what to do ? is there a quick fix ? could it be that I’m doing something wrong? I would hate to return this car back to the dealer, but I will not be am owner of a car that I cannot rely on. I would be very happy for responses on my problem. thank you very much🙏🏻
We need to know enough of your same problem from other owners of this I5 out there…it’s possible there could be some defect on the key itself but in my opinion as a 2017 Ioniq owner, I think Hyundai can check it out and see what needs to be done…if it’s a common problem for all I5 models then it’s a faulty problem for all their i5 productions
Absolutely love my new Ionic 5 Limited. I have had very few, and only minor issues and for me, the safety beeping is just fine. I have been a BMW X3 driver for many years and when I decided to go electric I looked at all available EVs in the Ioniq 5 price range. This "spaceship" absolutely rocked it over anything else out there. Its very comfortable, spacious, quiet and handles like a dream. I like the look of the front end, I would refer to it as serious and not sad. The profile is like noting on the market and the rear is, well, as you said, amazing. Hyundai knocked it out of the park with this machine, I have become a big fan!
Fully agree. The gentlemen who did this video is a bit on the nagging side of things. Maybe he needs to order a customizable fully flawless car ( if it ever exists). Maybe a Delorian 😂🤪
I have one one on order here in Canada it is the premium AWD long range with the 77.4KWH battery I was worried about the post charge power throttling but thanks to Bjorn Nylan's latest observation which I am betting is correct, I am no longer worried. When chargeing at a 350KW charger I'll just leave the climate on off for the short time it takes to charge the car! I hope you get a 77.4KWH model to test! Always love your channel Kris!
Power limiting after fast charging is quiet normal for lots of cars and it prevents the development of heat pockets that destroy the battery over time.
Still a dealbreaker. Heard of thermal throtteling when charging, but during driving is a big fail. But I guess Im spoiled with the excellent battery management in my e-tron.
Not really, its a thermal management issue which wont be fixable without hardware changes. Most ppl. wont care anyway. For me it would be a deal breaker too not gona lie
@@kenion2166 You do know it's only this ONE specific vehicle with the problem right? No reports of this on the IONIQ 5 forums from any of the owners. Bjorn and Kris tested the exact same vehicle. Maybe they should seek out another one and see how that one behaves.
I had a test drive in one of these and found that all the warnings were exactly the same as my current Tucson. Maybe you just aren't used to the Hyundai system design, which I find completely intuitive?
Great review. Love the looks of the Ionic5, and do like the comfortable ride. I do get anoyed about all the beeps in the Kia ev's too. Same systems. There are so many that it's not helping anymore. Do hope that the power issue is just a problem of this specific car.
We had a ioniq for 2 years and out of its Comfort zone the efficiency was poor but was nice car inside but if it’s crap efficiency then it’s dear to run them it needs to be .
I have a Kona and my wife drives a Tuscan, they’re both the same as well. The seat belt thing does get annoying but at the same time it makes me put my seatbelt on so it’s doing it’s job. Anxious to see this car start rolling into show rooms around my neck of the woods.
@@nickieredshaw7835 IONIQ and IONIQ 5 are two totally different brand designs. Not your fault in not realizing this; Hyundai were not brilliant when they decided to name the new brand as IONIQ.
In terms of why we ordered one of these (AWD limited version) - test drive was extremely pleasant, range is enough for our needs (we're in New Zealand, so range will get reduced on some hilly trips but speed limit is almost all 100kph on open roads, so we're not going at high speed and reducing range that way), boot capacity/height is exceptional (fits two large Rhodesian Ridgebacks comfortably, which was a must), the extra features on the limited were value for money which is a change from most top models (fully adjustable reclining seats when we're waiting to board a ferry or for charging, ability to move the rear seat forward to give dogs more room, blind spot view, memory seats...I mean the list just goes on) and the cabin space is exceptional - we stuck my 6'2" friend behind my 6'4" ass driving and we both had a ton of room.
@@ToddHendry correct. We took the false bottom out for a bit more space, but didn't really need to. We probably will so we can put a decent dog bed in there
It’s not a problem, read the manual before telling people that the car has issues. Harldly anyone experiencing this “problem” what in fact is a safety mode for the battery, like you can read in the manual. It’s a 800v system not anything like 150v . They’ll probably come up with a software update that will heat up the battery before supercharging and your so called major problem that hardly anyone encounters wil be solved. And no, I don’t own one…yet
So thermal throttling is not a problem because you say so and then refer to the manual? You, who admit you haven’t even driven one… And the advantage of 800volts is that is themselves throttles for safety? This comment just becomes dumber and dumber 🤣 This is called making excuses. You know Kris drove to Italy and back in a PS2 in five days without such issues. And he also owns an E-Tron GT which also is on an 800 volt architecture? Commenting with your level of knowledge really shows how little you know
@@perjensen5192 I drove it alright. Drove it in 30 degrees, charged it and...no problems. Actually liked the car. And yes, I read the manual. Sorry for writing my own experiences with the car and that of a lot of other people. Didnt know that having an other experience isn't allowed here and seems dumb to you. Thanks for mentioning that to me. Have a nice day too.
Great review. I also found that the steeringwheel blocked alot of the screen. I like the steering wheel as low as possible and then it completely blocks both speed and rangemeter. That was a dealbreaker for me. Its sad because i really liked the car but I´ll sit the way i like and if the car doesnt work its not my problem. the term problems is a bit worrying, image if ur towing something like a small caravan. Do u have to wait like 30 min after charging to start driving to not make the problem worse. It is as usual u should not by a new model when they come out. There is always problems in the beginning.
Having to move my whole upper body to see my speed, having a worse head up than the ID4, having to press one physical button, then move my hand 20 cm to touch the screen, and then move my hand down 5 cm to touch the screen again, just to put seat heating on the middle setting, says it all when it comes to the user interface. Compare that to the double taps of the ID4 (which I kind of hated, but could be done without taking your eyes from the road) or just pressing two different places, 2 cm apart, on the Model Y. I also hated that almost everything took one or two more button presses on the Ioniq 5 compared to the ID4 and Model Y. The map is the worst I have used in pretty much any car. Hyundai could have taken the map, without touch interface, from a 2010 BMW or Audi and it would have been 10 times better. I just typed in Stockholm, to see how it would navigate when it would require charging. 80% battery and it wanted me to charge right away. Those 20 percent would do nothing to help me get to my destination. Just trying to move around on the map was hopeless. Zoom out just a bit, and all the smaller roads disapeared. Here in Norway that ment almost all road. Just an almost empty map. Move the map around, and the car will suddenly decide that you changed direction and therefor change the direction of the map. Even when you are not centered on the car! The car also can't remember your regen settings if you put it into I-pedal. Imagine always using it, and always having to change the settings of the car when you enter it, then you forget once and crash into the car in front of you. Just so many poorly thought out decisions that would make me hate driving it every day. I can't stand that things are created so you have to do multiple unnecessary steps..
@@guybrushthreepwood3002 so you adjust the wheel so you always will have an uncomfortable time driving instead. As well as that it can lower your ability to drive safely. Brilliant. The head up solves it, but not with polarized glasses or for people who get headaches from it. It also isn't very sharp. As said, there are other cars with this problem, but never have I ever experienced such a total block of the speedometer.
@@fredrikfjeld1575 adjust the wheel where you can see the screen, then adjust the seat so you are comfortably in front of the wheel. It's not rocket science, the cockpit has plenty of adjustability to get everything right. My wife is 5`6, I'm 6`2, neither of us have issues seeing all of the screen. We are both super comfy. It's a non issue. The hud is fine, its better than the id4/Q4 we tested.
@@guybrushthreepwood3002 yeah, no. There are people on forums here that have sold the cat because they cannot see the display. I tried to adjust, and no latter how I adjusted, it just made the cat unbearable for longer drives. Never ever seen any cat with such a severe problem. I can adjust the wheel so I see the screen, which has the wheel way to high. The ioniq probably has the seat with the most adjustability I have ever seen, but I still could not make the drive safe, comfortable and see the screen. If I hadn't been so thin or so tall then it might have worked. The hud is a lot worse than the ID4 over here. It is unclear, not nearly as bright. So a lot more often that you cannot see it and the fuzzy ness of it, compared to the ID4 is probably tireing on long drives.
I have watched a gazillion of videos on this car and you brought up some issues that nobody else has mentioned. Looking forward to test drive this car myself.
Have had my I5 for a month now and to begin with, it would charge to 280 miles (450km). Now it seems to charge to a lower amount each time so it now charges only to 217 miles (350km). So far it’s only been charged on a home charger at 22kw, but it’s concerning that the battery capacity seems to be deteriorating as much as almost one third after only one month and around 800 miles.
15:55 I think it's possible to personalise the focus of the HUD. Thanks for a fair and real review. There was a flood of reviews from the established car media, all just extremely positive. Goes to show that EV reviews are best done by specialists like yourself.
Thanks dude, I try to keep it real even though I can see some videos will get a lot of down votes when you do a balanced review on a car a lot of people like. As for the the focus in the HUD, was not able to find any adjustment for focus, and according to the manual there is not choice for it either: webmanual.hyundai.com/STD_GEN5W/AVNT/USA/English/010_Settings_car2.html#dd26e17295
@@KrisRifa the manual says it's possible to adjust the image position, brightness and AR Matching Information from the Settings menu in the infotainment system screen. The settings can also be stored into a driver profile (seat adjustments) according to an owner I spoke to. I'm still waiting for the car, so can't confirm myself.
@@bilgyno1 Yes, these are all normal settings. But I found the letters and numbers unclear (poor resolution) compared to other HUDs. Dont think there is any setting for focus, havent seen this in other cars either.
@@KrisRifa aha OK thanks for claifying. When I test drove I had no issues with it. But that was after I signed the purchase contract. Buying it was a bit of a gamble... but what I see it still holds up. Biggest two issues for me are the high Cd value (high consumption at higher speeds) and the lack of proper long trip navigation with charge stops. But I don't like to drive very fast and will get an ABRP Pro account, so I will manage... It's about €10k cheaper than the Model Y, otherwise that would be my preference.
Yeah, seats are often overlooked. I also do long trips with all the cats I test, so actually do many miles in them unlike other reviewers who may not test as thorough.
I’m considering ID3, Ioniq 5 or Polestar 2. I’ve passed the fifties, kids are out and I live 10km from the foodstore. If I had all these 3 cars outside my house, and I’m out of milk in my fridge. What car would I choose to jump in to and go to the foodstore? Right now it’s the Polestar, just choosed by my feelings.😃😃
@@dennisbjergmadsen5163 Yet nice seats are rewarding even on the short trips. The biggest problem is Kris is comparing seats to the best of the best: Audi and Polestar so many brands do fare not so well.
The remote parking works in Norway. 1. Lock the car, top button on the key Fob. 2. Start the car, bottom button on the key Fob. 3. Drive forwards or backwards with the arrows on the key Fob.
I have the Ionic 5 and its the best car I ever owned and I've owned over 10 cars since I been driving. This car is well built and a head turner. As far as range is concerned if you drive more than 200 miles pre day then don't buy an EV buy a gas powered car. Going on a road trip? well use the NAVIGATION Screen to find the public charging stations along your route, time to chare from 20-80% is about 20 minutes. Very good ride, smooth and fast which could be problem!. Things that need improvement--- a battery warmer for winter charging, better placement of the key elements of the screen such as speed, and yes its annoying to have to go into the screen to turn on/off the seat heaters and wheel warmer. Otherwise its a super car, fun to drive and it does carry lots of "stuff" once you turn down the rear seats, which BTW are adjustable.
Hi, I've now had the car checked over, and have also spoken to their technical team. it seems the issue is down to the technology on the car, calculating how much actual mileage you are likely to get from a full charge, based upon the usage of the car, and taking into account other settings that you use such as internal temp, external temp, etc. This therefore shows a more accurate figure of the mileage that you will be able to get out of the car, and is more favourable than other EV's that may show you a higher available mileage figure, but then not actually be that accurate. You can make a reset to the settings from the car, and then the vehicle will start again in re-calculating your available mileage at full charge, based upon how you drive the car after the reset. I've now had the car for just over 2 months, and a full charge has typically settled at around 227 miles, as opposed to the 280 that is advertised. The only other issues I've experienced is around the Bluelink Hyundai app for scheduled charging, which is very buggy, and I had one day where the scheduled overnight charge didn't happen, even though the app had accepted the instruction. I think they need to iron out some of the bugs on the App to be honest.
Great video! Love the exterior, although I kind of like that big cars look big.. 🙂 12:58 this is why you are amongst the best EV reviewers out there. You say it straight. Very skeptical about the cold weather charging performance and thermal management in general.. How are the head lights compared to the competition? Meep, meep!! 👋
Thanks mate! I see there have been a few boys in the Ioniq 5 comments here, and I get some back lash. But to me, the most important thing is honesty. Does not matter if it’s my E-Tron GT, a Model Y or this Ioniq 5.
It not only looks big, in real life it is. Driving it is fun but indeed the size comes with weight. And that weight has to be moved and that costs energy. As long as there aren’t batteries that store more power I’m afraid we’ll be stuck with overweight cars. Still, they’re a lot more efficient than normal SUV’s with combustion engines
@@KrisRifa I'm a bit late to the party so you might not pick up this quick question: you mentioned the 20 inch wheels and seemed to relate the range to the wheel size. Could you tell me please does the size of the wheels actually affect range? I asked a guy at a main dealer the other day and he said it didn't. (mind you he said a lot of the other things with great authority and certainty which I know to be rubbish! 😂) It would be great if you could find the time to clear this up for me, many thanks. Love your videos they are helping me prepare for my ev journey when finances allow. 👍
@@judebrown4103 A dealer here in Finland said the range is affected by the wheels. Even on the Kia configurator the bigger wheels shave off around 30km of range.
My Ioniq 5 all wheel drive which I drive mostly in town has consistantly turned out 455 to 460 Km. Mind you the weather is nice right now and had not to use AC or too much heat. Very satisfied.
ok Bjorn just mentioned that you need to turn off the climate control on charging, that way the battery can be better cooled to prevent the thermal throttling.
Great vid as usual. Interesting concerns. The big deal breaker for me on this the EV6 and likely the GV60 are the low ground clearance. As the wheelbase on these cars gets longer low ground clearance becomes an issue in some situations, like steep driveways where the bottom may rub dud to steep pitch. I tired a Mach E and it rubs the bottom coming out of my driveway, becasue that is insanely low ground clearance (lower than many sedans). These SUV/CUV EVs need SUC/CUV ground clearance or they are off my list.
Yeah, I own a Hyundai Tuscan currently, and I think the seats may be similar to the Ioniq 5. I too find the bucket seats or particularly the lumbar support makes it weird for long drives. I constantly find myself adjusting my seating position to avoid back ache. So the seats may be a common Hyundai thing. I'm also probably about Kris's height, so maybe shorter people have it worse seats wise 🤷♂️. Still love Hyundai. They make very reliable cars and my family swears by them
I'm 173 cm and these seats are perfect for me. Much better than sport seats in my X3. I just drove 750 km and felt no pain or anything. Perhaps these seats are for Korean size people.
that back seat looked like it was moved forward with your friend in it. You could see the back of the seat squab in front of the C pillar, which you can't when it's in the rear most position
The lack of a center console actually makes it easy to enter and exit the car from the passenger door, which can be useful when you're stuffed in or parked right next to a wall on the driver's side.
I just bought this car but I have the Sel Hyundai ionic AWD and it’s definitely a bad ass vehicle. Very comfortable and smooth riding and very roomy. I luv this vehicle but the only downside is the range. Higher speeds eats the range So long as you’re traveling 70mph and less it’s better on range. But if you like traveling 80mph and more you can expect to eat up the range🤷🏽♂️
Hi Kris! When you test charge speed, did you add the charge station to the navigation? I think I read somewhere that it needs to preheat the battery (same as tesla) to get optimum charge speed. so if you don't let the car know you are going to a charger I think that is when you get the low charging speed. I guess it will be the same with EV6 if you gonna test it in the future (maybe a compare test in charging when it entereed in navigation compared to not) You should notify Hyundai regarding the limited power after charging, hopefully they already know and are working on a fix (unlesss you got "monday" versions of Hyundai ie.e not a common issue)
17:00 I think you're simply not rotating the knob far enough. If you rotate it against the first detent, nothing happens. You need to rotate it over the detent.
If you tilt the back seat to it's most reclining position you can't push the seat all the way back and you lose about 10cm of knee room, it's obvious when you look at his seating angle
Not sure how you've been driving on the motorway or if there's an issue with the battery in yours - I've seen a few real world drive to flat videos where stated range has been met or exceeded with mixed driving so seems strange that your motorway range is much lower.
Some months ago, I read that Hyundai had problems developing the battery cooling system. It could be that this issue is a measure to protect the batteries when charging so fast and asking for a lot of power, as is the case with the dual engine.
Thanks for another great video update. Interesting that’s you find issues that no other reviews say they either ignore it or didn’t have it . Yes love look of it and ev6 but in uk there is not enough ultra fast charging in uk and the car you can get for say £40 k you need to add options to match model 3 and the top power one is not much more powerful then sr+ and the 3 or y long range is better range and speed . But why doesn’t Ioniq 5 heat the battery before rapid charging like Tesla? And with the Ioniq 5 being water cooled battery why is it throttling the power ? Maybe see if you can try another Ioniq 5 see if it’s just that car that’s has issues? But it isn’t not just that car having issues seems strange than no one brought this up ! Thanks again for the review
The crappy range and efficiency isn't an isolated issue for the Ioniq5 in reviews. Everyone that has taken this on long distance range tests on pure highway at higher speeds and less than ideal (real world) conditions hasn't been able to get more than 180 miles per charge, which gives the Ioniq5 a real world range of 80% of that (since you're not supposed to frequently deplete the battery below 10% or even 20% and charging slows to a crawl above 80% and you're also not supposed to charge to 100% all the time either) or less than 150 miles. If you add aggressive lead foot driving (80+ mph), sub-freezing temperatures, multiple passengers and cargo and elevation changes (saying driving in Utah for a camping or skiing trip on 85 mph highways), your usable range in those criteria and conditions might be less than 50 miles, which makes it useless if there is no charging network...
@@nickieredshaw7835 In my part of the US there is very inadequate charging. It’s pretty much Tesla Superchargers or Level 2. That range is incredibly disappointing. My experience with the Model Y itself was pretty bad, seriously uncomfortable ride and “300 mile” fully charged range turned into 200 miles in real driving. However, the charging experience was A+ fast and painless.
The seats was a deal breaker for me. I couldn't make through my 2 hours testdrive without getting back pain, and yes I adjusted it correctly. There is a weird bend backwards 10-20cm above the lumbar support. To bad because I really liked the car otherwise.
Yeah I totally understand that. And to people not finding this an issues, good for you. But me, Mat Watson and others here have had issues with it. So don't take it personally that people get back pains or find a seat uncomfortable 🙈😂
@@Wasabi9111 I was debating those two also, got the Model Y now, but a part of me still wants the Ioniq 5 :) lately saw it in reality, looks really nice, and charges a lot faster than the Model Y with the crap 5C batteries... but then again, the Model Y is much more economic, so charging in kph isn't that much different.. well I guess you can't really go wrong, both great cars.
I don't think the power cut after fast charging is such a huge problem for most people. If you drive normally 80ish kW power will be adequate. As the battery cools down full power is restored. So, no dealbreaker for me.
Thanks for the review, it great content, what is your favorite ev in this price range? I am waiting for my model 3 performance to be delivered in february but I was wondering if you think the Ioniq 5 or other ev is a better car all around …I would really appreciate your opinion. Thanks🙏
The ioniq 5 was on my shortlist. But after a test drive the horrendous nav / infotainment system quickly made sure it got dropped from that list. Also that everything CONSTANTLY beeps at you but the lane keeping assistant regularly disengages without any notice (except for the tiny icon turning white from green) is a real annoyance. Ordered an XC 40 instead.
Thank you for actually reviewing the car instead of overviewing it. Electric cars are CARS, not just electric drivetrain and a pretty shell. A lot of the reviewers are all about specs and features and not the actual reviews of how they actually work or don't work.
No rear wiper is a HUGE mistake that Hyundai made. There are reports that almost zero visibility as soon as it rains because of that. Also poor handling is well known problem.
Great review. You are the first reviewer I have seen who picked up the issue of the steering wheel not being able to be adjustable back far enough for tall drivers. I noticed this on a test drive I did recently and it put me off the car.
Interesting. Perhaps tall people have less of a problem as your arms are likely to be longer as well! I ended up hunched over the wheel which gave me a backache after 20 min. To each their own!!
Really enjoy your reviews. EV cars aren't very common in N.Ireland and the superfast chargers are practically non existent. I have two large dogs and the design of most EVs won't suit my needs. Those that do are out of my budget. This car looks like a good balance of both. How was the visibility from the parking camera after driving in the wet? Did it get clogged with dirt?
Love the large dogs criteria for an EV. We took our two Ridgebacks (one of whom is definitely oversize for breed) to our test drive for the Ioniq 5 and found it a good fit. While the rear end is sloped it isn't as sloped as Teslas and they could fit - you can remove the false floor cover to create a bit more height as well
@@HorribusAT Super interesting, thanks. I watched a review from Wales with an early 45 branded Ioniq 5 that had a big lump under the false floor cover because of the engine, I guess yours didn’t have that?
I saw the thumbnail and went straight to commenting. One big problem it has here in the UK is that every Uber and other private hire cab driver wants one.
The thing that concerns me, as with all EVs is battery degradation. I drive 25,000 miles per year. I don't know what kind of shape the battery would be in in 6 or 7 years.
Kris hi, Being from a country with higher temperatures i am still trying to get my head around a few things you mentioned here and not here now but prior views. Is higher the temperature the better power allowed? Does cold temp slow the charging down to, in what increments. Thirdly with me in Australia, with only 1% EV sale so far, what is YoYo ing actually mean. I have driven the Hyundai Kona EV and the Kia Niro EV for a few weeks each and they seen to have no power issues what so ever and even seem to charge faster on a normal 240V home power point. So I guess temp may have an issue in colder climates. I ask all this as I am a Fleet manager (400 cars) and we are putting on 5 EVs, 1 in each each of our southern states/territories in OZ. 4 Kona's and one NEW KIA EV6 when released in DEC 2021. Thanks Great info review.
I love the Ioniq 5 and ordered one but the absence of a rear wiper is truly and utterly idiotic. My advice: Treat the glass with some glass sealant - if you do it carefully and correctly, it should last a year or more and with it, the aerodynamic wiping Hyundai envisioned should work...or the damn thing is easier to clean, at least 😅
@@jimmymorgan3324 What's the matter? Dropped your sippy cup and Mommy's too busy fondling the mailman? If you wanna weigh in, lose the caps lock and the attitude!
Thank god finally someone with a few negatives on this car. Everyone else on you tube acts as if it is perfect. No product can be perfect. You need comfortable seats for long driving.
Agreed, this was a good review. I really want to test drive one when they’re available in my area, but with back problems, if it’s as bad as he said, then I can’t even consider this car which will be a huge bummer
@@user-pq8td7bs8p that’s exactly the point… there might be body types who find these seats not good… the majority on the other hand will like them. Test drive and make your own mind…
The Jaguar I-Pace beeps even more if you don’t use your belt, also when you’ve sat the car in park. After a minute or two (I have never timed this) the Ioniq 5 will stop the belt beeping.
In 5000km I have not experienced the power limitation you mentioned after fast charging (I've seen the 220kW many times). How hot was it outside when you experienced this?
That's good to hear, don't know what the issue is and if it is only limited to this car. I experienced it at different temperatures between 9 - 22 degrees celcius.
i got to test drive one, and had there been one there to purchase, I would have driven off with one! I'm kinda glad I'm looking at a 2023 delivery as I hear this, and if these issues are not addressed by then I will be keeping on with my tesla. with auto updates, and never an issue with fast charging and always lightning acceleration.
Wondering if the thermal issue is just that car as it seems quite a few owners below have said they have no problems. Maybe there is a fault with that car - i.e. the battery cooling or a sensor issue. I wonder if Hyundai have checked it out as I notice Bjorn had a similar issue in that very same car?
Hi @Kris Rifa, great video, it helped a lot. I just test drove one of these and there are a couple of points that I disagree with you on Kris. Obviously a lot of this is subjective but: First is the driving position - as tall guy (6"3) mostly in the leg, I had no issue finding a comfy position. I did notice that both you and your friend adopt a much more reclined seat posture - perhaps this is just a difference in what we're used to driving but more upright vehicles like this I've found tend to encourage a more upright posture and I'm used to that and like it. Second was the interior quality - I really like the design and space, but the quality of materials is not high, particular on the tops of the doors and dash which are hard, scratchy plastics. Not what I expect from a £40k + vehicle. There is a lot to like about the car though - most of all design, again very subjective but for me it's awesome. :) I do agree about the colour options, I wish they had the option to have the whole car as one colour rather than the contrast which either runs too close to the paint or is too strong contrasting.
Thank you for good review but you are putting a lot of personal taste in your drawbacks about the car design. In the end there are no perfect car especially in the electric line. The leg room in the back has been praised by many critics given the car size. Remember what you are paying for this car.
Does it have a battery temp indicator? Did you get the key issues figured out? My Taycan actually stopped running the other day when I had the key in my left pocket. It allowed me to start it and back up, but when I put it in drive it stopped. I had to switch the key to my right pocket to get it to start.
I guess the Kia EV6 has the same power issues. Also these both don't have a rear window wiper! Do they have a rear window defroster? How does show and ice wipe itself off in the wind? Beeping is not a big deal, but having to worry about overheating the battery. No thanks.
Kris, great 👍 review.. we recently seeing this car in NYC .. it’s nice however I think we have different taste because I am not a fan of the interior layout feels like you’re in a small minivan especially with the center console push back .. just something not right with the layout ... so it’s ok but nothing to be excited over, I do really like The exterior look / design that’s awesome 👍 my daughter to have this as her first EV .. so will see if we get it .. I was just hoping for more with this car .. The interior feel is really the big let down for me though... awesome exterior but not a fan of the interior .. OK performance and awesome charging speed .. that’s my take on this car.
I like the interior layout, especially with the center console push back ..(can get out to the front passenger door if park too close to other car on driver side). The exterior layout is only ok to me. The best is the 800V Batt and V2L features.
Please read the manual before doing a review!!!
What exactly?
I bought the I5 and Tesla Y at the same time. Tesla has many advantages, but the I5 has much better comfort when it comes to seats (incl. adjustment options), very comfortable shock absorbers and sound level. Comfort are more important to me and that's why I sold the Y.
Thank you for sharing your XPrience. This is very useful comparison from a real world user. May I ask where you live and how the power consumption were between the two?
I also value comfort, consumption and safety.
And it looks waaaaay better!
Hi Lars-Einar, what about the self-driving functions of the Tesla? I am primarily looking at buying a Tesla because of its self-driving capabilities. I haven't found another car brand AI that can literally steer away from someone almost hitting you on the side, or drive a few metres forward if a car behind you is about to hit you. See the videos called " Tesla Autopilot Saves " to understand what I mean.
You sold Tesla to make money to buy io5
@@anmimanma7224 I sold the Tesla Y quick; but the impression is that the Y has lower consumption, specialy on the motorway above 100 km/h. I live in the south of Norway. The charging in winter is between 60-140 kwh. But the I5 is getting preheat like Tesla, then it will charge fast again 🙂
All the issues that you find "annoying" are software and have been fixed with an OTA software update. This is a very new car even in Jan 2022, and was even much newer (and unreleased?) back in Sep 2021. So relax and test drive a much newer and released unit. Cause all your issues have been fixed with the latest software update. And the IQ5 obliterates every other EV out there.
Did they add a rear wiper too?
@@dianehoag682 For 2023 they added a digital rearview mirror which is much better than any rear wiper, and then some. Cause none of the rear passengers or cargo could ever block your view.
@@TheNature101 Great! Thanks for the up-date.
The one problem with the Ioniq 5 is Hyundai can't make them fast enough.
Actually they can. The problem is they are not working as advertised. Battery does not hold up.
I have tesla 3 performance and honestly, I am not using anymore that acceleration. It is quite useless. Sometimes when I need to get on the highway through the ramp, - I'm pushing acceleration, - but not that much. It's like why would I mess with my tires if I can provide to them extra life span. What exact situations you need that acceleration for? To show off?
Hold in the lock key for 3-5 sec then the bottom startup 3-5 t then after you can hold in forward/ backwards to move the car whilst outside, it works in Norway.
After the Polestar 2. this is one of the coolest looking EV's out there. And i say this as a Tesla owner.
I commend you sir for your comment!
I feel the same way, just because I'm a tesla owner that doesn't stop me from appreciating what the competition is offering. The thermal throttling would be a deal breaker for me but hopefully they can fix that by a software update. I thought the Ioniq 5 allowed you to use it as a electric powerstation to run devices of your choosing I.e toaster, microwave etc. Why can't tesla have this with their vehicles. Imagine a EV stranded with low battery and you can come along and give them a quick top up to get home or to a charging station. Wish my M3 had that option.☹ Still a fun car for me to drive but could be better and have way more usable features like the peer to peer charging.
@@brianlewis8320 the Ioniq 5 does indeed allow you to power appliances. Not full V2L yet, so you wouldn't plug the house into it, but still a nifty feature - I have visions of going to freedom camping sites once ours turns up and still being able to boil water in a jug or take a microwave to make life a bit easier - and blow up the airbed for comfort.
The parking assistent work in Norway! You first have to push «lock», then push the «hold» button till you hear the car start. Then you can forward or backword With the remote.
The thermal throttling I havent experienced with mine (P45) in Germany. My standard route has an Ionity HPC in the middle of a no-limit part of the autobahn - from full speed to HPC charging to full speed again is no problem, tested several times at different temperatures.
I even don’t recognize the problem with my project 45
What was your battery temperature after Ionity, did it reach 45°C? And what is the charging speed now when battery is below 15°C?
the same for me, i've an IONOQ 5 (P45) ad NO problems in germany with thermal throttling, i love this car.
Great review Kris, quality is going up. Could you please coment on the car's "autopilot" as part of your final reviews? Cheers
First of all Kris, thank you for a great video.
I decided to go for the Ioniq5, because I’m a child of the 80’s.
I love this car.I understand that you either have to love or hate this car, but for me it’s a beautiful car.
I am just waiting for Dr Emmett Brown to rise from the backseat, turn on a couple of buttons and then were Airborne✈️
I considered the Mustang and a few other options, but because I’ve had three other Hyundai’s prior to this, I decided to stick with that, since I have been very satisfied with the others.
But already after a short while I started to experience some of the problems you referred to in your video/review.
Especially that irritating moment when you put yourself in the car and it will not go into drive???
Can anyone who reads this and have experienced it please give me some advice?
Do you know what to do ?
is there a quick fix ?
could it be that I’m doing something wrong?
I would hate to return this car back to the dealer, but I will not be am owner of a car that I cannot rely on.
I would be very happy for responses on my problem.
thank you very much🙏🏻
We need to know enough of your same problem from other owners of this I5 out there…it’s possible there could be some defect on the key itself but in my opinion as a 2017 Ioniq owner, I think Hyundai can check it out and see what needs to be done…if it’s a common problem for all I5 models then it’s a faulty problem for all their i5 productions
Absolutely love my new Ionic 5 Limited. I have had very few, and only minor issues and for me, the safety beeping is just fine. I have been a BMW X3 driver for many years and when I decided to go electric I looked at all available EVs in the Ioniq 5 price range. This "spaceship" absolutely rocked it over anything else out there. Its very comfortable, spacious, quiet and handles like a dream. I like the look of the front end, I would refer to it as serious and not sad. The profile is like noting on the market and the rear is, well, as you said, amazing. Hyundai knocked it out of the park with this machine, I have become a big fan!
Fully agree. The gentlemen who did this video is a bit on the nagging side of things. Maybe he needs to order a customizable fully flawless car ( if it ever exists). Maybe a Delorian 😂🤪
I have one one on order here in Canada it is the premium AWD long range with the 77.4KWH battery I was worried about the post charge power throttling but thanks to Bjorn Nylan's latest observation which I am betting is correct, I am no longer worried. When chargeing at a 350KW charger I'll just leave the climate on off for the short time it takes to charge the car! I hope you get a 77.4KWH model to test! Always love your channel Kris!
Yeah, with new cars there will be tricks like this or fixes that Hyundai will do under warranty.
Power limiting after fast charging is quiet normal for lots of cars and it prevents the development of heat pockets that destroy the battery over time.
Still a dealbreaker. Heard of thermal throtteling when charging, but during driving is a big fail. But I guess Im spoiled with the excellent battery management in my e-tron.
@@HomeCinemaJunkie Battery Management is for battery protection, perhaps your E-Tron suffers heavier degredation, as there are signs in the ID models!
Thermal Throttling while charging sounds like a Software Issue perhaps ? Hopefully would be resolved with a software update patch. Nice review Kris !
Not really, its a thermal management issue which wont be fixable without hardware changes. Most ppl. wont care anyway. For me it would be a deal breaker too not gona lie
@@kenion2166 You do know it's only this ONE specific vehicle with the problem right? No reports of this on the IONIQ 5 forums from any of the owners. Bjorn and Kris tested the exact same vehicle. Maybe they should seek out another one and see how that one behaves.
@@ScubaSteveCanada I’m going to look for it but if you have a link to any forums I would appreciate it. Trying to make the most informed decision.
I had a test drive in one of these and found that all the warnings were exactly the same as my current Tucson. Maybe you just aren't used to the Hyundai system design, which I find completely intuitive?
Great review.
Love the looks of the Ionic5, and do like the comfortable ride.
I do get anoyed about all the beeps in the Kia ev's too. Same systems. There are so many that it's not helping anymore.
Do hope that the power issue is just a problem of this specific car.
We had a ioniq for 2 years and out of its Comfort zone the efficiency was poor but was nice car inside but if it’s crap efficiency then it’s dear to run them it needs to be .
I have a Kona and my wife drives a Tuscan, they’re both the same as well. The seat belt thing does get annoying but at the same time it makes me put my seatbelt on so it’s doing it’s job. Anxious to see this car start rolling into show rooms around my neck of the woods.
@@nickieredshaw7835 IONIQ and IONIQ 5 are two totally different brand designs. Not your fault in not realizing this; Hyundai were not brilliant when they decided to name the new brand as IONIQ.
Nice video. Thanks for all the information. Take care.
In terms of why we ordered one of these (AWD limited version) - test drive was extremely pleasant, range is enough for our needs (we're in New Zealand, so range will get reduced on some hilly trips but speed limit is almost all 100kph on open roads, so we're not going at high speed and reducing range that way), boot capacity/height is exceptional (fits two large Rhodesian Ridgebacks comfortably, which was a must), the extra features on the limited were value for money which is a change from most top models (fully adjustable reclining seats when we're waiting to board a ferry or for charging, ability to move the rear seat forward to give dogs more room, blind spot view, memory seats...I mean the list just goes on) and the cabin space is exceptional - we stuck my 6'2" friend behind my 6'4" ass driving and we both had a ton of room.
We have 2 ridgebacks in Australia. That’s our concern with other EV’s. Space for the occasional trip with ,them.
@@ToddHendry Ioniq 5's a winner in that regard. Our taller boy is 80cm at the shoulder, so space for him is space for most dogs.
And that’s the boot you’re talking about. Not the rear seats.
@@ToddHendry correct. We took the false bottom out for a bit more space, but didn't really need to. We probably will so we can put a decent dog bed in there
It’s not a problem, read the manual before telling people that the car has issues. Harldly anyone experiencing this “problem” what in fact is a safety mode for the battery, like you can read in the manual. It’s a 800v system not anything like 150v . They’ll probably come up with a software update that will heat up the battery before supercharging and your so called major problem that hardly anyone encounters wil be solved. And no, I don’t own one…yet
So thermal throttling is not a problem because you say so and then refer to the manual? You, who admit you haven’t even driven one… And the advantage of 800volts is that is themselves throttles for safety? This comment just becomes dumber and dumber 🤣 This is called making excuses.
You know Kris drove to Italy and back in a PS2 in five days without such issues. And he also owns an E-Tron GT which also is on an 800 volt architecture? Commenting with your level of knowledge really shows how little you know
@@perjensen5192 I drove it alright. Drove it in 30 degrees, charged it and...no problems. Actually liked the car. And yes, I read the manual. Sorry for writing my own experiences with the car and that of a lot of other people. Didnt know that having an other experience isn't allowed here and seems dumb to you. Thanks for mentioning that to me. Have a nice day too.
You definitely need to slide the back seats back further and recline them - tall or short
Great review. I also found that the steeringwheel blocked alot of the screen. I like the steering wheel as low as possible and then it completely blocks both speed and rangemeter. That was a dealbreaker for me. Its sad because i really liked the car but I´ll sit the way i like and if the car doesnt work its not my problem.
the term problems is a bit worrying, image if ur towing something like a small caravan. Do u have to wait like 30 min after charging to start driving to not make the problem worse. It is as usual u should not by a new model when they come out. There is always problems in the beginning.
Having to move my whole upper body to see my speed, having a worse head up than the ID4, having to press one physical button, then move my hand 20 cm to touch the screen, and then move my hand down 5 cm to touch the screen again, just to put seat heating on the middle setting, says it all when it comes to the user interface. Compare that to the double taps of the ID4 (which I kind of hated, but could be done without taking your eyes from the road) or just pressing two different places, 2 cm apart, on the Model Y.
I also hated that almost everything took one or two more button presses on the Ioniq 5 compared to the ID4 and Model Y.
The map is the worst I have used in pretty much any car. Hyundai could have taken the map, without touch interface, from a 2010 BMW or Audi and it would have been 10 times better. I just typed in Stockholm, to see how it would navigate when it would require charging. 80% battery and it wanted me to charge right away. Those 20 percent would do nothing to help me get to my destination. Just trying to move around on the map was hopeless. Zoom out just a bit, and all the smaller roads disapeared. Here in Norway that ment almost all road. Just an almost empty map. Move the map around, and the car will suddenly decide that you changed direction and therefor change the direction of the map. Even when you are not centered on the car! The car also can't remember your regen settings if you put it into I-pedal. Imagine always using it, and always having to change the settings of the car when you enter it, then you forget once and crash into the car in front of you.
Just so many poorly thought out decisions that would make me hate driving it every day. I can't stand that things are created so you have to do multiple unnecessary steps..
I have one and have no such problems seeing the screen.. The wheel moves, adjust it, it also has a heads up display...I don't see the problem
@@guybrushthreepwood3002 so you adjust the wheel so you always will have an uncomfortable time driving instead. As well as that it can lower your ability to drive safely. Brilliant. The head up solves it, but not with polarized glasses or for people who get headaches from it. It also isn't very sharp.
As said, there are other cars with this problem, but never have I ever experienced such a total block of the speedometer.
@@fredrikfjeld1575 adjust the wheel where you can see the screen, then adjust the seat so you are comfortably in front of the wheel. It's not rocket science, the cockpit has plenty of adjustability to get everything right. My wife is 5`6, I'm 6`2, neither of us have issues seeing all of the screen. We are both super comfy. It's a non issue.
The hud is fine, its better than the id4/Q4 we tested.
@@guybrushthreepwood3002 yeah, no. There are people on forums here that have sold the cat because they cannot see the display. I tried to adjust, and no latter how I adjusted, it just made the cat unbearable for longer drives. Never ever seen any cat with such a severe problem.
I can adjust the wheel so I see the screen, which has the wheel way to high. The ioniq probably has the seat with the most adjustability I have ever seen, but I still could not make the drive safe, comfortable and see the screen. If I hadn't been so thin or so tall then it might have worked.
The hud is a lot worse than the ID4 over here. It is unclear, not nearly as bright. So a lot more often that you cannot see it and the fuzzy ness of it, compared to the ID4 is probably tireing on long drives.
I have watched a gazillion of videos on this car and you brought up some issues that nobody else has mentioned. Looking forward to test drive this car myself.
Have had my I5 for a month now and to begin with, it would charge to 280 miles (450km). Now it seems to charge to a lower amount each time so it now charges only to 217 miles (350km). So far it’s only been charged on a home charger at 22kw, but it’s concerning that the battery capacity seems to be deteriorating as much as almost one third after only one month and around 800 miles.
If you feel up to it keep us posted. Interested in this comment. Thanks.
Get it to the dealer bro
@@mrcstb7479 Dealer can't do anything about it. You can't fix junk.
lead foot?
My guess is either a defect or the GOM adjusted to your way of driving and updated its estimates.
15:55 I think it's possible to personalise the focus of the HUD.
Thanks for a fair and real review. There was a flood of reviews from the established car media, all just extremely positive. Goes to show that EV reviews are best done by specialists like yourself.
Thanks dude, I try to keep it real even though I can see some videos will get a lot of down votes when you do a balanced review on a car a lot of people like. As for the the focus in the HUD, was not able to find any adjustment for focus, and according to the manual there is not choice for it either:
webmanual.hyundai.com/STD_GEN5W/AVNT/USA/English/010_Settings_car2.html#dd26e17295
@@KrisRifa the manual says it's possible to adjust the image position, brightness and AR Matching Information from the Settings menu in the infotainment system screen. The settings can also be stored into a driver profile (seat adjustments) according to an owner I spoke to. I'm still waiting for the car, so can't confirm myself.
@@bilgyno1 Yes, these are all normal settings. But I found the letters and numbers unclear (poor resolution) compared to other HUDs. Dont think there is any setting for focus, havent seen this in other cars either.
@@KrisRifa aha OK thanks for claifying. When I test drove I had no issues with it. But that was after I signed the purchase contract. Buying it was a bit of a gamble... but what I see it still holds up. Biggest two issues for me are the high Cd value (high consumption at higher speeds) and the lack of proper long trip navigation with charge stops. But I don't like to drive very fast and will get an ABRP Pro account, so I will manage... It's about €10k cheaper than the Model Y, otherwise that would be my preference.
“Specialist”……..Really??
I’m glad you comments one of the most important things in a car. THE SEATS 👍👍🙂🙂
Yeah, seats are often overlooked. I also do long trips with all the cats I test, so actually do many miles in them unlike other reviewers who may not test as thorough.
@@KrisRifa you're right there. I'm glad the Polestar seats was so good on your long trip to Italy 👍. I think I must buy one 🙂🙂
Do you buy A car for those 10% long trips or for the 90% short driving
I go the the 90%
I’m considering ID3, Ioniq 5 or Polestar 2. I’ve passed the fifties, kids are out and I live 10km from the foodstore. If I had all these 3 cars outside my house, and I’m out of milk in my fridge. What car would I choose to jump in to and go to the foodstore? Right now it’s the Polestar, just choosed by my feelings.😃😃
@@dennisbjergmadsen5163 Yet nice seats are rewarding even on the short trips. The biggest problem is Kris is comparing seats to the best of the best: Audi and Polestar so many brands do fare not so well.
The remote parking works in Norway. 1. Lock the car, top button on the key Fob. 2. Start the car, bottom button on the key Fob. 3. Drive forwards or backwards with the arrows on the key Fob.
I have the Ionic 5 and its the best car I ever owned and I've owned over 10 cars since I been driving. This car is well built and a head turner. As far as range is concerned if you drive more than 200 miles pre day then don't buy an EV buy a gas powered car. Going on a road trip? well use the NAVIGATION Screen to find the public charging stations along your route, time to chare from 20-80% is about 20 minutes. Very good ride, smooth and fast which could be problem!. Things that need improvement--- a battery warmer for winter charging, better placement of the key elements of the screen such as speed, and yes its annoying to have to go into the screen to turn on/off the seat heaters and wheel warmer. Otherwise its a super car, fun to drive and it does carry lots of "stuff" once you turn down the rear seats, which BTW are adjustable.
Hi, I've now had the car checked over, and have also spoken to their technical team. it seems the issue is down to the technology on the car, calculating how much actual mileage you are likely to get from a full charge, based upon the usage of the car, and taking into account other settings that you use such as internal temp, external temp, etc. This therefore shows a more accurate figure of the mileage that you will be able to get out of the car, and is more favourable than other EV's that may show you a higher available mileage figure, but then not actually be that accurate. You can make a reset to the settings from the car, and then the vehicle will start again in re-calculating your available mileage at full charge, based upon how you drive the car after the reset. I've now had the car for just over 2 months, and a full charge has typically settled at around 227 miles, as opposed to the 280 that is advertised. The only other issues I've experienced is around the Bluelink Hyundai app for scheduled charging, which is very buggy, and I had one day where the scheduled overnight charge didn't happen, even though the app had accepted the instruction. I think they need to iron out some of the bugs on the App to be honest.
Definitelly the app is buggy as shit. Also the usability people must have been on holiday because it's also slow and unintuitive to use.
@@FilipKierzek so Tesla's app far away from being perfect.
Great video! Love the exterior, although I kind of like that big cars look big.. 🙂 12:58 this is why you are amongst the best EV reviewers out there. You say it straight. Very skeptical about the cold weather charging performance and thermal management in general.. How are the head lights compared to the competition? Meep, meep!! 👋
Thanks mate! I see there have been a few boys in the Ioniq 5 comments here, and I get some back lash. But to me, the most important thing is honesty. Does not matter if it’s my E-Tron GT, a Model Y or this Ioniq 5.
It not only looks big, in real life it is. Driving it is fun but indeed the size comes with weight. And that weight has to be moved and that costs energy. As long as there aren’t batteries that store more power I’m afraid we’ll be stuck with overweight cars. Still, they’re a lot more efficient than normal SUV’s with combustion engines
@@KrisRifa I'm a bit late to the party so you might not pick up this quick question: you mentioned the 20 inch wheels and seemed to relate the range to the wheel size. Could you tell me please does the size of the wheels actually affect range? I asked a guy at a main dealer the other day and he said it didn't. (mind you he said a lot of the other things with great authority and certainty which I know to be rubbish! 😂)
It would be great if you could find the time to clear this up for me, many thanks. Love your videos they are helping me prepare for my ev journey when finances allow. 👍
@@judebrown4103 A dealer here in Finland said the range is affected by the wheels. Even on the Kia configurator the bigger wheels shave off around 30km of range.
@@Speed_7545 ah, thank you very much for your info, very kind of you to help me with your answer.
My Ioniq 5 all wheel drive which I drive mostly in town has consistantly turned out 455 to 460 Km. Mind you the weather is nice right now and had not to use AC or too much heat. Very satisfied.
ok Bjorn just mentioned that you need to turn off the climate control on charging, that way the battery can be better cooled to prevent the thermal throttling.
That should be automatic... geeeee it seems there is always more to do.
Great vid as usual. Interesting concerns. The big deal breaker for me on this the EV6 and likely the GV60 are the low ground clearance. As the wheelbase on these cars gets longer low ground clearance becomes an issue in some situations, like steep driveways where the bottom may rub dud to steep pitch. I tired a Mach E and it rubs the bottom coming out of my driveway, becasue that is insanely low ground clearance (lower than many sedans). These SUV/CUV EVs need SUC/CUV ground clearance or they are off my list.
The Key fob doesn't work in Canada for that either.
Yeah, I own a Hyundai Tuscan currently, and I think the seats may be similar to the Ioniq 5. I too find the bucket seats or particularly the lumbar support makes it weird for long drives. I constantly find myself adjusting my seating position to avoid back ache. So the seats may be a common Hyundai thing. I'm also probably about Kris's height, so maybe shorter people have it worse seats wise 🤷♂️. Still love Hyundai. They make very reliable cars and my family swears by them
I'm 173 cm and these seats are perfect for me. Much better than sport seats in my X3. I just drove 750 km and felt no pain or anything. Perhaps these seats are for Korean size people.
Thank you for detailed examination.
that back seat looked like it was moved forward with your friend in it. You could see the back of the seat squab in front of the C pillar, which you can't when it's in the rear most position
As I wrote in the video, the seat was sat all the way back 🙈
I agree, something looks wrong here.
Very fine review Kris. 😃I can see the tyre pressure is 2.3/2.4. Is that not very low? 😞 Please test the KIA EV6 if you can get hold on one. 😃
I second that. Manual says 36 PSI (~2.5 bar) under normal load.
The lack of a center console actually makes it easy to enter and exit the car from the passenger door, which can be useful when you're stuffed in or parked right next to a wall on the driver's side.
No need to. Almost all newer hyundai vehicles have remote parking
@@joo02 far easier and quicker to just jump out the passenger side than take several minutes messing around with the key to get it to drive in slowly.
I just bought this car but I have the Sel Hyundai ionic AWD and it’s definitely a bad ass vehicle.
Very comfortable and smooth riding and very roomy.
I luv this vehicle but the only downside is the range. Higher speeds eats the range
So long as you’re traveling 70mph and less it’s better on range. But if you like traveling 80mph and more you can expect to eat up the range🤷🏽♂️
Glad you took time to compare with the polestar 2 since that is also on my radar. Which one would you go for between the two? Thanks!
i was considering the ioniq 5. now im not so sure
Hi Kris! When you test charge speed, did you add the charge station to the navigation? I think I read somewhere that it needs to preheat the battery (same as tesla) to get optimum charge speed. so if you don't let the car know you are going to a charger I think that is when you get the low charging speed. I guess it will be the same with EV6 if you gonna test it in the future (maybe a compare test in charging when it entereed in navigation compared to not)
You should notify Hyundai regarding the limited power after charging, hopefully they already know and are working on a fix (unlesss you got "monday" versions of Hyundai ie.e not a common issue)
I’m not sure if there’s a way to change the default to your phone but mine automatically connects and plays Bluetooth when I get In
"People approach me and say, wow it's actually looks bigger than it does in pictures"
😂😂😂
17:00 I think you're simply not rotating the knob far enough. If you rotate it against the first detent, nothing happens. You need to rotate it over the detent.
I haven’t had those problems described. My biggest annoyance is the front sensors notification when I’m backing up.
Rear seat weren't pushed all the way back there was gap behind the rear seat & the steering wheel wasn't to it's lowest position. Not
Yes the seats were pushed all the back… geez people… I wrote it in the video to be seen 🙈🙈
If you tilt the back seat to it's most reclining position you can't push the seat all the way back and you lose about 10cm of knee room, it's obvious when you look at his seating angle
@@stenerline, Thank you. Yes that makes good sense.
Hope the KIA EV6 could change your opinion. Superb vid Kris !!
Not sure how you've been driving on the motorway or if there's an issue with the battery in yours - I've seen a few real world drive to flat videos where stated range has been met or exceeded with mixed driving so seems strange that your motorway range is much lower.
Some months ago, I read that Hyundai had problems developing the battery cooling system. It could be that this issue is a measure to protect the batteries when charging so fast and asking for a lot of power, as is the case with the dual engine.
ok, maybe this not a problem with single motor?
Very Good telling the Truth. Now I know I will Pass on this car
Thanks for another great video update. Interesting that’s you find issues that no other reviews say they either ignore it or didn’t have it . Yes love look of it and ev6 but in uk there is not enough ultra fast charging in uk and the car you can get for say £40 k you need to add options to match model 3 and the top power one is not much more powerful then sr+ and the 3 or y long range is better range and speed . But why doesn’t Ioniq 5 heat the battery before rapid charging like Tesla? And with the Ioniq 5 being water cooled battery why is it throttling the power ? Maybe see if you can try another Ioniq 5 see if it’s just that car that’s has issues? But it isn’t not just that car having issues seems strange than no one brought this up ! Thanks again for the review
The crappy range and efficiency isn't an isolated issue for the Ioniq5 in reviews. Everyone that has taken this on long distance range tests on pure highway at higher speeds and less than ideal (real world) conditions hasn't been able to get more than 180 miles per charge, which gives the Ioniq5 a real world range of 80% of that (since you're not supposed to frequently deplete the battery below 10% or even 20% and charging slows to a crawl above 80% and you're also not supposed to charge to 100% all the time either) or less than 150 miles. If you add aggressive lead foot driving (80+ mph), sub-freezing temperatures, multiple passengers and cargo and elevation changes (saying driving in Utah for a camping or skiing trip on 85 mph highways), your usable range in those criteria and conditions might be less than 50 miles, which makes it useless if there is no charging network...
@@OlJackBurton good points. Yer bit disappointing Efficiency and range for the size of battery
@@nickieredshaw7835 In my part of the US there is very inadequate charging. It’s pretty much Tesla Superchargers or Level 2. That range is incredibly disappointing. My experience with the Model Y itself was pretty bad, seriously uncomfortable ride and “300 mile” fully charged range turned into 200 miles in real driving. However, the charging experience was A+ fast and painless.
The seats was a deal breaker for me. I couldn't make through my 2 hours testdrive without getting back pain, and yes I adjusted it correctly. There is a weird bend backwards 10-20cm above the lumbar support. To bad because I really liked the car otherwise.
Yeah I totally understand that. And to people not finding this an issues, good for you. But me, Mat Watson and others here have had issues with it. So don't take it personally that people get back pains or find a seat uncomfortable 🙈😂
The key driving works for sure, stopp engine, lock the car, hold down hold button until the engine starts, then use the arrow keys to move the car.
So Kris, which is your favourite EV in this price segment?
I was wondering the same thing. I’m debating between the Ioniq 5 and Model Y.
@@Wasabi9111 I was debating those two also, got the Model Y now, but a part of me still wants the Ioniq 5 :) lately saw it in reality, looks really nice, and charges a lot faster than the Model Y with the crap 5C batteries... but then again, the Model Y is much more economic, so charging in kph isn't that much different.. well I guess you can't really go wrong, both great cars.
so whats the 2 major problem? ..
I don't think the power cut after fast charging is such a huge problem for most people. If you drive normally 80ish kW power will be adequate. As the battery cools down full power is restored. So, no dealbreaker for me.
Thanks for the review, it great content, what is your favorite ev in this price range?
I am waiting for my model 3 performance to be delivered in february but I was wondering if you think the Ioniq 5 or other ev is a better car all around …I would really appreciate your opinion. Thanks🙏
I think you have to turn the front camera on first for parking via the key fob.
I’ve a serious problem with the boot - it shuts down on its own and doesn’t release when you put your hand underneath - it’s so dangerous
Very comprehensive review Kris; roll-on EV6 soon eh! I think you’ll rate that better.
Thanks dude! Can't wait to test the EV6 😊
Yer ev6 or ioniq 5 would be hard choice if had to pick one both great looking cars
The ioniq 5 was on my shortlist.
But after a test drive the horrendous nav / infotainment system quickly made sure it got dropped from that list.
Also that everything CONSTANTLY beeps at you but the lane keeping assistant regularly disengages without any notice (except for the tiny icon turning white from green) is a real annoyance.
Ordered an XC 40 instead.
Thank you for actually reviewing the car instead of overviewing it. Electric cars are CARS, not just electric drivetrain and a pretty shell. A lot of the reviewers are all about specs and features and not the actual reviews of how they actually work or don't work.
No rear wiper is a HUGE mistake that Hyundai made. There are reports that almost zero visibility as soon as it rains because of that. Also poor handling is well known problem.
Great review. You are the first reviewer I have seen who picked up the issue of the steering wheel not being able to be
adjustable back far enough for tall drivers. I noticed this on a test drive I did recently and it put me off the car.
It was one of the first things me and my friend noticed after I picked it up! As always, I'm just reporting it as I seen it.
Same here.
How tall do you need to be to notice this? At 6'4" I was comfortable driving with pretty minimal playing around on the test drive.
Interesting. Perhaps tall people have less of a problem as your arms are likely to be longer as well! I ended up hunched over the wheel which gave me a backache after 20 min. To each their own!!
Really enjoy your reviews. EV cars aren't very common in N.Ireland and the superfast chargers are practically non existent. I have two large dogs and the design of most EVs won't suit my needs. Those that do are out of my budget. This car looks like a good balance of both.
How was the visibility from the parking camera after driving in the wet? Did it get clogged with dirt?
Love the large dogs criteria for an EV. We took our two Ridgebacks (one of whom is definitely oversize for breed) to our test drive for the Ioniq 5 and found it a good fit. While the rear end is sloped it isn't as sloped as Teslas and they could fit - you can remove the false floor cover to create a bit more height as well
@@HorribusAT Super interesting, thanks. I watched a review from Wales with an early 45 branded Ioniq 5 that had a big lump under the false floor cover because of the engine, I guess yours didn’t have that?
@@vp5429 not that I noticed, but we dropped a dog bed in so would have been covered.
I saw the thumbnail and went straight to commenting. One big problem it has here in the UK is that every Uber and other private hire cab driver wants one.
The thing that concerns me, as with all EVs is battery degradation. I drive 25,000 miles per year. I don't know what kind of shape the battery would be in in 6 or 7 years.
Very nice review - thank you!
The key issue must be a bug. I have an Hyundai Kona EV and I always keep the key in my pocket.
im in the waiting line for one in the states i think it still looks dope compared to my nissan leaf
Awesome! This is in another league compared to the Leaf!
@@KrisRifa yeah it looks nice to me im short lol 5"7 the charging curve and speeds are nice for a road trip car
How do you close the doors from inside, looks like there is nothing to grab on to?
is this Cyber Grey?
Kris hi, Being from a country with higher temperatures i am still trying to get my head around a few things you mentioned here and not here now but prior views. Is higher the temperature the better power allowed? Does cold temp slow the charging down to, in what increments. Thirdly with me in Australia, with only 1% EV sale so far, what is YoYo ing actually mean. I have driven the Hyundai Kona EV and the Kia Niro EV for a few weeks each and they seen to have no power issues what so ever and even seem to charge faster on a normal 240V home power point. So I guess temp may have an issue in colder climates. I ask all this as I am a Fleet manager (400 cars) and we are putting on 5 EVs, 1 in each each of our southern states/territories in OZ. 4 Kona's and one NEW KIA EV6 when released in DEC 2021. Thanks Great info review.
I think the lack of a rear wiper is also a big setback, at least in the Nordic countries..
I love the Ioniq 5 and ordered one
but
the absence of a rear wiper is truly and utterly idiotic.
My advice: Treat the glass with some glass sealant - if you do it carefully and correctly, it should last a year or more and with it, the aerodynamic wiping Hyundai envisioned should work...or the damn thing is easier to clean, at least 😅
@@millerbai TURN THE REAR. CAMERA ON. If you use the. REAR VIEW. MIRROW THAT. MUTCH
@@jimmymorgan3324 What's the matter?
Dropped your sippy cup and Mommy's too busy fondling the mailman?
If you wanna weigh in, lose the caps lock and the attitude!
Thank god finally someone with a few negatives on this car. Everyone else on you tube acts as if it is perfect. No product can be perfect. You need comfortable seats for long driving.
Agreed, this was a good review. I really want to test drive one when they’re available in my area, but with back problems, if it’s as bad as he said, then I can’t even consider this car which will be a huge bummer
@@user-pq8td7bs8p I test drove one, and I found the seats very comfy, I'm only 172CM tall though. Tried an entry spec one, no leather seats.
@@user-pq8td7bs8p that’s exactly the point… there might be body types who find these seats not good… the majority on the other hand will like them.
Test drive and make your own mind…
Good review Kris
The Jaguar I-Pace beeps even more if you don’t use your belt, also when you’ve sat the car in park. After a minute or two (I have never timed this) the Ioniq 5 will stop the belt beeping.
My ipace doesn’t beep in park mode
Sweet, so if I don't live near the Autobahn, there's nothing to worry about ;)
you have to calibrate the head up display for crisp images. (only once), The TT problem seems a problem with your specific car.
In 5000km I have not experienced the power limitation you mentioned after fast charging (I've seen the 220kW many times). How hot was it outside when you experienced this?
That's good to hear, don't know what the issue is and if it is only limited to this car. I experienced it at different temperatures between 9 - 22 degrees celcius.
i got to test drive one, and had there been one there to purchase, I would have driven off with one! I'm kinda glad I'm looking at a 2023 delivery as I hear this, and if these issues are not addressed by then I will be keeping on with my tesla. with auto updates, and never an issue with fast charging and always lightning acceleration.
What don’t any reviewers tell you what level charger the car comes with?? I need to know if it comes standard with a level 2 like Teslas do. Thanks!
Where is the rear fog light(s) hidden?
Wondering if the thermal issue is just that car as it seems quite a few owners below have said they have no problems. Maybe there is a fault with that car - i.e. the battery cooling or a sensor issue. I wonder if Hyundai have checked it out as I notice Bjorn had a similar issue in that very same car?
I saw many videos with this issue
which one is it your prefer ev car? Range,confort?
Is the charger doing only 400 V and charges at half speed you would get at a 800 V charger?
Doesn't take City potholes well.
I can’t wait to get a test drive here in Canada 🇨🇦
Hi @Kris Rifa, great video, it helped a lot.
I just test drove one of these and there are a couple of points that I disagree with you on Kris. Obviously a lot of this is subjective but:
First is the driving position - as tall guy (6"3) mostly in the leg, I had no issue finding a comfy position. I did notice that both you and your friend adopt a much more reclined seat posture - perhaps this is just a difference in what we're used to driving but more upright vehicles like this I've found tend to encourage a more upright posture and I'm used to that and like it.
Second was the interior quality - I really like the design and space, but the quality of materials is not high, particular on the tops of the doors and dash which are hard, scratchy plastics. Not what I expect from a £40k + vehicle.
There is a lot to like about the car though - most of all design, again very subjective but for me it's awesome. :)
I do agree about the colour options, I wish they had the option to have the whole car as one colour rather than the contrast which either runs too close to the paint or is too strong contrasting.
The quality of the material is better for the top line of the Ioniq.
Thank you for good review but you are putting a lot of personal taste in your drawbacks about the car design. In the end there are no perfect car especially in the electric line. The leg room in the back has been praised by many critics given the car size. Remember what you are paying for this car.
Does it have a battery temp indicator? Did you get the key issues figured out? My Taycan actually stopped running the other day when I had the key in my left pocket. It allowed me to start it and back up, but when I put it in drive it stopped. I had to switch the key to my right pocket to get it to start.
That's exactly what you get with a lot of today's gadgets. When you had to have your key in the ignition, you knew your car would run.
the front is the best part for me
I guess the Kia EV6 has the same power issues. Also these both don't have a rear window wiper! Do they have a rear window defroster? How does show and ice wipe itself off in the wind? Beeping is not a big deal, but having to worry about overheating the battery. No thanks.
Kris - wondering if the back seats had been adjusted forward when your friend tried it? :)
He had a text insert saying that the rear seats were all the way back.
So he was thinking about this possibility, but was sure about it.
I would like to see the credibility of your research and your findings. Can you please provide that or is it just stock
Remeber to press the break pedal when pressing the start button. I also have a Ioniq 5. Never have that problam you experience.
Yeah it’s not the first time I’ve driven a car 🙈🙈🤣🤣
Have you change the remote battery?
Kris, great 👍 review.. we recently seeing this car in NYC .. it’s nice however I think we have different taste because I am not a fan of the interior layout feels like you’re in a small minivan especially with the center console push back .. just something not right with the layout ... so it’s ok but nothing to be excited over, I do really like The exterior look / design that’s awesome 👍 my daughter to have this as her first EV .. so will see if we get it .. I was just hoping for more with this car .. The interior feel is really the big let down for me though... awesome exterior but not a fan of the interior .. OK performance and awesome charging speed .. that’s my take on this car.
Was this car on the road or in some showroom? I live in the area too.
I like the interior layout, especially with the center console push back ..(can get out to the front passenger door if park too close to other car on driver side). The exterior layout is only ok to me. The best is the 800V Batt and V2L features.
is this ionic fitted with the optional heatpump?
Depends on the country. Heat pump in Canada is standard but we still don't know the cost of the vehicle.
I dont know for sure, but 2.3 bar in the tires for this car might be low? On my model Y with 19" that weighs less is running 2.9-3.0 bar
It should show a warning then I gues :D On the 20 inch of my m3 performance its also 3 bar
the kia ev6 have the same issues like you method at 17:30 to 20:43 ?