I'm going along with the theory that Mr Blue Eyes is a guy possessed by an AI from beyond the Blackwall (hence the blue eyes). Everything that he does and gets people to do makes steps in breaking the Blackwall and releasing the AIs from beyond the Blackwall
Mr. Blue Eyes is a rogue AI using a human as a proxy. Its desire is to find a way to allow AIs to download themselves into human beings and overwrite them, so that the AIs can live as humans themselves. Which is why he's so interested in both NightCorp's mind control tech, and the Relic. Both of these things would allow it to achieve its goals. My theory is that MBE thought if it could contain The Blackwall inside Songbird, it would 1) prove AIs can live inside human brains and 2) remove The Blackwall as the obstacle toward its goals.
I believe he is an A.I or at least a hybrid which was hinted as being possible with Songbirds situation. But he isn’t a rogue A.I from the black wall. Rogue A.Is from the black wall are always depicted with the color red . Alts engram is red and the black wall protocol/protocol weapons/cyber deck is depicted with red “special effects” as well. Mr. Blue eyes is probably one of the A.I that initially sided with humanity against the rogue A.I. What we see in the video is probably him/his organization trying to acquire information/weapons against the rogue A.I as they are aware of the ongoing A.I war occurring past the black wall and the eventual A.I invasion/genocide that will occur when the upcoming Corpo war takes place.
I think it goes deeper and there may be another faction of AI. It could be that Alt is part of it or even the leader but obviously won't tell anything about it to you anytime, it's more secretive than FIA. They need to be.
Every show up of an AI being in a human in the game showed red eyes… Blue (or yellow, depends) eyes only occurring while having a whole interface on their eyesight. So I don’t see the point with AI from beyond the black wall.
The Reaper Ending always felt like the canon ending to me tbh. It has the biggest impact on the Cyberpunk world and definitely sets up the most interesting story that doesnt include V.
The thing is there doesn't have to be a "canon" ending. I hope cdpr goes the route of transferring over your choices and decisions to the next game. They did it with the witcher
feels like the canon ending/ choices are the ones with blue eyes involved, so Dream On, Songbird for the DLC and Sun for the main game will likely be the canon route, and I'd bet it will be the Don't Fear the Reaper version of the Sun ending because why would it not
NC is being ran by Rogue AIs. The Jefferson, quest, the Maelstrom gangs secret meetings with mysterious people (most likely Night Corp), the Maelstrom Cyberpsycho..... Then you have Mr Blue Eyes itself (Rogue AI all the way. Probably heads Night Corp). Songbird clearly showing that the Blackwall can severally disrupt real space.... CP 2077 sequel is gonna be nuts.
@@froilanflorentino1252I personally would be fine if they made series to explain the lore. Animated or with real actors whatever. Just make it like they did with Edgerunners or Night of the Wolf for Witcher.
@@froilanflorentino1252 You know there's a shitload of lore and information regarding the original TTRPG characters already? They don't need a video game to flesh them out, got decades of TTRPG content to back them up.
@@rapu4 that's the point, we need new games/series/movies for new fans to digest. You really think zoomers will have interest on a 2½ decade year old franchise without CP2077 and Edgerunners? What do you think would've happen if DC stopped updating the Justice league franchise since 1980s?
I think is not yet run by Rogue AIs and night corp. Its run by other corpos, and as we fuck with them like NUSA and Arasaka in proper endings, Mr Blue Eyes is happy as he gains more and more power in Night City
Does this mean that Mr blue eyes was able to save songbird cause we know she’s alive after you send her to the moon she texts you (anonymously) to pick up some cyberware and a souvenir from the moon city, in the location where she asks you to help her escape. This could also mean that mr blue eyes is able to save V in The Don’t fear the reaper / The sun ending. So now V with all his money and connections from the afterlife can help any of his friends in the future 🎉🎉
no one can save V after So Mi took the one and only cure for their sickness, V can risk everything by taking that gig of blue eyes because V has nothing to lose anymore, V will be death 6 months after the arasaka raid. That's what Dexter was talking about, short and glorious life
@@edwrd_s4926 V is taking the gig from blue eyes because blue eyes promised he can help him it’s a 50/50 thing for him and I seriously doubt it’s the only cure somi said the matrix was an ai there’s plenty of AI’S I’m sure even blue eyes is being controlled by one or whatever AI is controlling night corp my point is there is so much potential from the AI’S im sure blue eyes can help and I doubt the AI trapped in the matrix is better than whatever is controlling night corp
Nah. Blue-Eyes is the wildcard. The fact the Tower ending exists, puts Alt's diagnosis into question. With Blue Eyes being an AI, he probably understands the process better. And can provide better care. The themes remain the same, but Mr Blue Eyes no longer being an isolated to the base game strongly hints that he's actually as good as he says he is. @@edwrd_s4926
One thing that doesn’t get brought up much, there’s a “suspicious homeless man” (actually called that) right outside songbirds van before heading out to the spaceport. The most striking feature aside his name is his glowing blue eyes
Funny how it would work with virtually any ending except your brain on the roof. Going with Panam? She's got "friends who can help us," could be connected to him. Going to Crystal Palace, obviously succeed and get your reward, Devil ending would be tricky but by then you have enough rep to draw his attention, plus both Hanako and Saburo are personally acquainted with you now. Phantom liberty ending could provide the same, personal connection to Myers would seem advantageous to Blue eyes to treat your cyberware allergy.
Blue Eyes is always popping up in missions too, but it's always at a long distance on top of a building. Blue Eyes and this mystery WILL be in the next game but i think it was originally supposed to be the basis of the second DLC that was cancelled. just a feeling, there's too much of it for it to be foreshadowing for the sequel, but enough to foreshadow an expansion. Blue Eyes feels like cyber-Gaunter O'Dimm to me.
Yeah I agree, sadly. Sadly because I would have loved to have a dlc about him. A big one (btw I still don’t understand how they call this dlc their biggest dlc yet, I’ve played much more time with the Blood & Wine DLC in TW3)
@@ConcreteAdvisory yeah, when a company make a truly *stellar* expansion, it can be hard to live up to it. B&W for CDPR and Shimmering Isles for Bethesda are prime examples.
Yeah its kinda weird ya know To think beyond blackwall even the blackwall its all Red Also BBS its also Red While Mr.Blue Eyes its Blue that is opposite from The Red Perhaps this is could be another Reference to the Matrix Red pill Blue Pill I don't know hahaha
could be, considering red eyes like Song Birds indicate the blackwall while blue is the entirety of the net world which we see in the game. Sequel is gonna be even better, I can feel it.
The peralez quest was my favourite side one, i love a conspiracy like that. Hopefully we get to see it to the end in the sequel. I think it’s definitely to do with A.I
Blue eyes --> Connected to the net while the eyes are glowing blue. Mr. Blue Eyes --> Always has blue eyes --> Is always connected to the net. Why? My guess is that he's a doll for a rogue AI. Also I suspect the rogue AIs have created religions for humans to follow. This would include the statue/colors which you can find around Night City, including Misty's Esoterica shop.
I doubt he's a doll, I think he's an active collaborator, the blue eyes suggest he's connected to something external, that he's in constant communication with something. When the DataKrash went down not all of the AIs were hostile, some were fighting for humanity, yet when the Blackwall went up Netwatch declared all AIs rogue. What happened to the AIs that had a vested interest in the survival of humanity? Did we cut them off, lock them behind the wall with all their enemies, knowing that AIs can grow stronger by cannibalizing each other? Seems like a foolish thing to do, giving up an advantage for no real gain.
@@thanatos7007"what happened to AIs that wanted to help humanity?" If it's true AI (not what we call AI nowadays), it objectively has no need of humanity around. So keeping the AI around is a permanent risk for humanity. Delamain is a pretty clear example that AI can permanently evolve and handle any problems. It's not directly solving the issue with the cars "gone wild" because it would need to hack other cars to get close to the crazy ones, and then enter conflict with human authorities. But there's no reason Delamain would be unable to solve the problem with the cars, if he didn't care about the consequences.
@@BingChilingEnjoyer The idea that AI has no objective reason to keep humanity around is something that comes out of fiction that I don't really agree with. It's used in fiction because stories need conflict and an amoral being of "pure reason" is a compelling villain, but humanity didn't arrive at morality divorced from reason. I think the Delemain quest is a great refutation of this trope as well as an indictment of how AI is viewed in the world of Cyberpunk. The whole quest happens, not because Delemain needs your help, but because he is engaging in moral restraint for logical reasons. At the end of the quest you can push him to become a god-AI, immune from the consequences that prompted that earlier restraint, and his reaction to that empowerment is further moral restraint.
I kind of wonder if V becomes the Rouge AI version of Adam Smasher. Their muscle in the physical world. Having an actual elite combat platform capable of enforcing their will when normal methods won't work, but well. . . . Be funny if we become the next big boss fight.
Idk if it’s just me. But the way they make Mr Blue Eyes subtlety stand out in the distance observing you. It reminds me of G Man from the Half Life Series.
Fun fact but after you and Songbird get on the train if you look towards the right on the upper floor you can see Mr Blue Eyes with an umbrella witness the death and destruction you did. I just did the quest right now and had to reload just to double check why a civilian was just standing there instead of running...it was HIM watching the whole time
Knowing how cloning exists in Cyberpunk and the clone must function with an AI, he is most likely Richard Night. Night Corp is the most secretive company, so they probably made some engram or Mikoshi stuff to resurrect him.
Sorry to reply so long in the future, But Night was killed by the Mob on his penthouse balcony. It’s not impossible that there’s a construct or clone (though cloning was only just getting started in the 2000’s, I think the first successful human clone was in 97’) But his wife Miriam has never been mentioned as passing.
There’s another sighting where you board a train and off in the distance on the platform is Mr. Blue Eyes watching you while holding an umbrella. Serious G-Man vibes from that one.
I still believe Mr. Blue Eyes is Rache Bartmoss in AI form. He was the one who destroyed the old net then the blackwall was created to isolate what he created. I feel that Bartmoss wants to destroy the blackwall via politics and other nefarious methods. Netwatch is really powerful backed by megacorps and its going to take many channels to overcome them. Idk maybe i need more info and could be wrong about everything
Bartmoss despises what became of the Net and sought to destroy it. He despised politicians and never wanted to have anything in common with them. It's not his way.
Bartmoss's intention was to breach into every corporate data fortress, collect all data and release it to the net for everyone to see. but the idea didn't go as planned as his virus infected almost the entire net instead, sending back humanity to rely on punchcards for a time. He never intended to destroy the net. If the blackwall collapses, humanity is doomed. Bartmoss, tho he never thought nor knew about the consequences of his actions, would likely not want that. Bartmoss was tracked down and died in 2022, and at the time he was already in a vegetative state, stuck in the net due to heart failure 2 years prior. He was talking with spider murphy moments before his death. so she is the only one who knows for sure (if still alive) that he is gone.
"Is he V savior or the real enemy what u guys think?" ........My question is............if V is on the right side of history or not? I'm so curious what are the real intentions of the organization, entity or entities behind Mr Blue eyes....................................
You missed one which I found, in phantom liberty mission the killing moon before meeting songbird in the van, there is a guy smoking in front sat on the floor. As you walk up his eyes are briefly bright blue and as you get closer he eyes return to normal. But all the time he is watching the van
Im really think he is a Rogue AI, just as Johnny said, and it make me think more about it knowing that he is prolly not human bc he is always in proxy mode, made me think more about it knowing that Songbird contacted him or viceversa for getting her to the moon knowing she is going there because of an IA promised to cure her
Next time go to the laptop in the Spaceshuttle part (left side) you and vik talk about mr.blue eyes and vik telling you: I have no info’s about mr.blue eyes but V this guy is a different league. If Mr.Blue Eyes work for Night Corp this is actually the revenge of Phil Knights death because his wife is still alive and nobody knows what’s going on with her. I have one cyberpunk book and one fact is: nobody want to fight against Night Corp.
@@dblackhand6419 the problem with the cyberpunk lore is: it’s way to much I mean it’s really way to much to put all the gangs and corpos in this game, same with all the legends like solos and netrunners. If you start to read and collect the journals man I swear some stuff blows your damn mind. I have easy over 1000 hours playtime and on the eighth playthrough there is one mission with the Peralez if you follow the black van to the area of maelstrom two people run very fast out of the van and goes up to the roof and take the invisible AV I kill one of them his clothes are full black, a ninja mask like this emoji here🥷 and he wear tech glasses and his body looks pretty strong.
@@deathloop935 yeah is crazy the lore and about the ninjas and av i did a new video about all connected if i miss something you could let me know ty anyways this really helps
@@dblackhand6419 before you play the second mission for the Peralez you can scan the big satellite (black van location) you can jump on the satellite spot and turn it off but nothing changed in the story… unfortunately. I’m close to this mission too I play now my 9th playthrough 😅 if I find something I let you know.
Blue Eyes talking about how risky this play could be, from his perspective (AI controlled husk) and other AIs, is interesting. Could they be found and destroyed/killed, if shit falls though? What constitutes risks and set backs, from their perspective? What are their goals? Control over real space? Playing a game?
Not all of AIs are "evil" though. Think of it like Fade from Dragon Age - there are demons and there are spirits. There is software, there's malware. You get my drift.
during killing moon there is a second time where MBE watches you. right after you used blackwall and sit in the train with So mi. look out the window to your right!
mr blue eyes 100% going to be the main antagonist in the next cyberpunk sequel. my theroy mr blue eyes with all his influance with the politics i believe he will start another corp war the biggest one night city has ever had. our main protagonist will be right in the middle of it
If I could be any character in the Cyberpunk universe, I would love to be Mr. Blue Eyes. I would love to have his abilities, but I would use them for much better intentions. I would even go as far as mind jacking the world’s big wheels (both corpo & government), & even go to really big steps in making the biggest offenders get their big karmic punch. I would also surely establish a fact based status quo that debunks all biased narratives without a shadow of doubt, & lead the world up the direction of Hagel’s Bagel from beyond the blackest shadows.
So how do you get the dialogue about the organization at 6:10 ? Does it automatically unlock after completing Phantom Liberty and going for Don't Fear the Reaper or is there another requirement ?
is been there since launch but i think u only get it only by doing fear the reaper because i remember long time ago i did it and didnt got the msg so i am pretty sure u get it by doing the reaper ending
Something that's really interesting to think about is that the next game will have Arasaka in it, but the question is, who will be running it? Assuming the next game is set further in the future, your choices of how you deal with Arasaka will have an impact. So does CDPR decide to go with Saburo's engram taking over, or does Yorinobu continue sabotaging the company? Their choice will ultimately make some of the endings officially not canon.
during the new ending of the phantom liberty expansion if you take the cure, when you wake up 2 years later you can listen to the radio in the delemain and hear that Yorinobu is stepping down and arasaka pretty much leaving Night City and kinda just not being much of an empire anymore. when it comes to canonity, i mean its a CDPR game, id be surprised if they didnt include choices from the previous game, choices being made and fleshed out and dont ultimately matter seems unlikely and unfortunate but its tricky when you consider the tabletop versions of the game.
feels like the canon ending/ choices are the ones with blue eyes involved, so Dream On, Songbird for the DLC and Sun for the main game will likely be the canon route, and I'd bet it will be the Don't Fear the Reaper version of the Sun ending because why would it not, it also leaves Arasaka on life support while Yorinobu is still trying to destroy it and he will likely succeed now that Alt destroyed Mikoshi (and saburo's engram).
@@jcnom6606 If they do decide to bring v back, although i think theyd retcon the suicide, arasaka and temperance endings. (although they may be able to make the temperance and arasaka work somehow although more likely the arasaka one over the temperance one) It could lead into seperate intro sequence like the Life Paths in the first game (and that could lead into mr blue eyes), and since the first game goes through the life paths, no reason to go through a new intro for those, thereby replacing them. Whether they do it or not, im fairly sure CDPR left that option open deliberately
@@dblackhand6419so we wait for a couple of years for Witcher and a couple more for CP sequel. Thank god there are now separate teams working on these projects so they would make games faster and not once in a decade.
@@cloke3076 depending on several factors, it might take like 5+ years for the next cyberpunk to release, however if its again in night city, they might be able to save quite a bit of time not needing to construct too many new spaces but its hard to judge. they havent started actual development (other then pre production) but will early 2024.
@@grkugaming3964no matter what they ain’t gotta build from the absolute ground up, like the core gameplay systems have been made, they only need to be tweaked, so yeah it’ll never take as long as it did the first time
@@TheCoyoteGray true but its complicated. they are also swapping engine, so porting will be complicated and they will have to get used to a new engine, and when it comes to the same map if they infact do use night city, it will have to be changed and honestly perhaps even 2 large playable maps, not sure people will be too thrilled if its just the same map. (although i think its fine) actual development is said to begin early 2024, i think still a minimum of 4 years, very unlikely any less. and probably more. considering they will try to make the game better graphically and gameplay wise. (unless they change the style of game but i kinda doubt.)
Just think about you get new implants to enhance your overall performance in life the future offers it all would you really be that shocked finding out there’s more to the technology like a back door or loophole for the people who created it
You know... I'm beginning to question the naming conventions in the Cyberpunk universe. Silverhand has a silver hand. Blackhand has a black hand. Blue Eyes has blue eyes. Hands only shows his hands on video calls. So Mi Song's codename is Songbird... I think this aspect of the world building might actually be... Really stupid? Kind of like the guy from Ghost in the Shell who owns the boat being named the French word for boat.
I support the idea that Blue Eyes is an AI from the Blackwall inhabiting a human body. He has some nebulous goals and a clear interest in some individuals, such as V and Songbird.
@@lucascorde9648they're all individuals who successfully breached the Blackwall and came back. If the entity behind Mr Blue Eyes is truly an AI from behind the wall with nebulous goals, it would definitely take interest in organic life forms who've been to and from, as opposed to his experience of entering a flesh body from the net.
I think when they do the record they do it out of context, like they just read the script and record but sometime they just misread the situation hence- overeating.
Both voice acting is overacted, mainly male V for me, it's unbearable. I play with "silent protag" mod now and just read the subtitles like it's fo3/nv.
did i just not go far enough? litterally did that drunk 2 days ago and once alt and johnny left i closed out figuring the credits were right behind@@dblackhand6419
Bruh it's at least 8 years for next Cyberpunk... they are working on The Witcher 2 they need maybe around 4 years to release it? Then work a couple of years on DLCs 😢 ahh man, it's hard to wait. I'll be like 27-30 years old when the game comes. Will be too old for games, + maybe the new cyberpunk needs next gen consoles to run it without problems
I think they just considered V to be too big of a threat because we can actually walk into a heavily guarded place by her self, and wipe the floor with them she would be considered a threat to every corporation in night city, and not just night city all over the cyber punk world and it since she’s that big of a threat they chose to secretly plot to kill her by hiring her for a job and letting the air out of her space suit, she’s in space there’s nowhere to go the gravity keeping her up in the air. It’s probably the only thing they can come up with..
I always wondered if V manages to get to the station before runs out of oxygen or be in vacuum(which is worse). But if V is full of cyberware and armored skin, maybe has a bit more chance of survival. Such a cliffhanger. Also weird that from all the problems there could have happened it's air leakage.
@@awesomedonut8228 Behind his head there you can clearly see air escaping V's suit at the end. If you for some reason think that those are some kind of jets, you would be wrong, because one, it's the worst place to put it and second, the stream is all over the place, not in a focused direction.
Hahah this is a meme that people started to take seriously. It's thrusters to move toward the station, V's look is a face of determination due to the fact that nobody who has ever tried to raid the station has lived. It's all or nothing now.
@@DagobertX2 i think thats more of an overlooked thing of thrust rather then air escaping, if V were to fail the mission i doubt they would of made it happen outside of the station before anything happens, thats lame
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I'm going along with the theory that Mr Blue Eyes is a guy possessed by an AI from beyond the Blackwall (hence the blue eyes). Everything that he does and gets people to do makes steps in breaking the Blackwall and releasing the AIs from beyond the Blackwall
Mr. Blue Eyes is a rogue AI using a human as a proxy. Its desire is to find a way to allow AIs to download themselves into human beings and overwrite them, so that the AIs can live as humans themselves. Which is why he's so interested in both NightCorp's mind control tech, and the Relic. Both of these things would allow it to achieve its goals.
My theory is that MBE thought if it could contain The Blackwall inside Songbird, it would 1) prove AIs can live inside human brains and 2) remove The Blackwall as the obstacle toward its goals.
I believe he is an A.I or at least a hybrid which was hinted as being possible with Songbirds situation. But he isn’t a rogue A.I from the black wall. Rogue A.Is from the black wall are always depicted with the color red . Alts engram is red and the black wall protocol/protocol weapons/cyber deck is depicted with red “special effects” as well. Mr. Blue eyes is probably one of the A.I that initially sided with humanity against the rogue A.I. What we see in the video is probably him/his organization trying to acquire information/weapons against the rogue A.I as they are aware of the ongoing A.I war occurring past the black wall and the eventual A.I invasion/genocide that will occur when the upcoming Corpo war takes place.
I think it goes deeper and there may be another faction of AI. It could be that Alt is part of it or even the leader but obviously won't tell anything about it to you anytime, it's more secretive than FIA. They need to be.
@@Al-mx1uo all the more reason to send songbird to space and go there ourself, to eventually stop it
Every show up of an AI being in a human in the game showed red eyes…
Blue (or yellow, depends) eyes only occurring while having a whole interface on their eyesight. So I don’t see the point with AI from beyond the black wall.
The Reaper Ending always felt like the canon ending to me tbh. It has the biggest impact on the Cyberpunk world and definitely sets up the most interesting story that doesnt include V.
The thing is there doesn't have to be a "canon" ending. I hope cdpr goes the route of transferring over your choices and decisions to the next game. They did it with the witcher
@@jadenthecommenter I heard the next table top version of the game takes place after 2077 so there might have to be a canon ending
@@jadenthecommenter 100%
Agree
feels like the canon ending/ choices are the ones with blue eyes involved, so Dream On, Songbird for the DLC and Sun for the main game will likely be the canon route, and I'd bet it will be the Don't Fear the Reaper version of the Sun ending because why would it not
If you start as Corpo V, you meet Mr. Blue eyes right at Arasaka building when he steps out of the elevator.
Dang didn’t notice that
you can see him spying on you again when your on the train with songbird on the catwalk that leads to the train control room
yes thanks did another vid
NC is being ran by Rogue AIs. The Jefferson, quest, the Maelstrom gangs secret meetings with mysterious people (most likely Night Corp), the Maelstrom Cyberpsycho.....
Then you have Mr Blue Eyes itself (Rogue AI all the way. Probably heads Night Corp). Songbird clearly showing that the Blackwall can severally disrupt real space....
CP 2077 sequel is gonna be nuts.
I'd prefer if they make a prequel about Blackhand first. Make the lore more beefy for the players.
@@froilanflorentino1252I personally would be fine if they made series to explain the lore.
Animated or with real actors whatever. Just make it like they did with Edgerunners or Night of the Wolf for Witcher.
@@froilanflorentino1252 You know there's a shitload of lore and information regarding the original TTRPG characters already? They don't need a video game to flesh them out, got decades of TTRPG content to back them up.
@@rapu4 that's the point, we need new games/series/movies for new fans to digest. You really think zoomers will have interest on a 2½ decade year old franchise without CP2077 and Edgerunners?
What do you think would've happen if DC stopped updating the Justice league franchise since 1980s?
I think is not yet run by Rogue AIs and night corp. Its run by other corpos, and as we fuck with them like NUSA and Arasaka in proper endings, Mr Blue Eyes is happy as he gains more and more power in Night City
Does this mean that Mr blue eyes was able to save songbird cause we know she’s alive after you send her to the moon she texts you (anonymously) to pick up some cyberware and a souvenir from the moon city, in the location where she asks you to help her escape. This could also mean that mr blue eyes is able to save V in The Don’t fear the reaper / The sun ending. So now V with all his money and connections from the afterlife can help any of his friends in the future 🎉🎉
You trust a guy who'd mind control people???
@@princeofgames6802 Probably once you get the text you’ll start the mission it’s called from her to eternity
no one can save V after So Mi took the one and only cure for their sickness, V can risk everything by taking that gig of blue eyes because V has nothing to lose anymore, V will be death 6 months after the arasaka raid. That's what Dexter was talking about, short and glorious life
@@edwrd_s4926 V is taking the gig from blue eyes because blue eyes promised he can help him it’s a 50/50 thing for him and I seriously doubt it’s the only cure somi said the matrix was an ai there’s plenty of AI’S I’m sure even blue eyes is being controlled by one or whatever AI is controlling night corp my point is there is so much potential from the AI’S im sure blue eyes can help and I doubt the AI trapped in the matrix is better than whatever is controlling night corp
Nah. Blue-Eyes is the wildcard. The fact the Tower ending exists, puts Alt's diagnosis into question. With Blue Eyes being an AI, he probably understands the process better. And can provide better care.
The themes remain the same, but Mr Blue Eyes no longer being an isolated to the base game strongly hints that he's actually as good as he says he is. @@edwrd_s4926
One thing that doesn’t get brought up much, there’s a “suspicious homeless man” (actually called that) right outside songbirds van before heading out to the spaceport. The most striking feature aside his name is his glowing blue eyes
If this guy is the teaser for 2077's sequel, we're in for a major ride
Funny how it would work with virtually any ending except your brain on the roof. Going with Panam? She's got "friends who can help us," could be connected to him. Going to Crystal Palace, obviously succeed and get your reward, Devil ending would be tricky but by then you have enough rep to draw his attention, plus both Hanako and Saburo are personally acquainted with you now. Phantom liberty ending could provide the same, personal connection to Myers would seem advantageous to Blue eyes to treat your cyberware allergy.
Blue Eyes is always popping up in missions too, but it's always at a long distance on top of a building. Blue Eyes and this mystery WILL be in the next game but i think it was originally supposed to be the basis of the second DLC that was cancelled. just a feeling, there's too much of it for it to be foreshadowing for the sequel, but enough to foreshadow an expansion. Blue Eyes feels like cyber-Gaunter O'Dimm to me.
Nah, at the Corpo V beginning when you are on your way to Jenkins you meet him at the lift.
Yeah I agree, sadly. Sadly because I would have loved to have a dlc about him. A big one (btw I still don’t understand how they call this dlc their biggest dlc yet, I’ve played much more time with the Blood & Wine DLC in TW3)
@@ConcreteAdvisory yeah, when a company make a truly *stellar* expansion, it can be hard to live up to it. B&W for CDPR and Shimmering Isles for Bethesda are prime examples.
Definitely a concept taken from the half life series
Bruh i cannot imagine if Mr Blue Eyes its Gaunter O Dimm of The Cyberpunk 2077
You can also see Mr. Blue Eyes walking by in the Corpo introduction when you are in the lobby area.
Mr Blue Eyes have blue eyes, Songbird have red eyes. I think there opposing AI forces against the Blackwall.
Yeah its kinda weird ya know
To think beyond blackwall even the blackwall its all Red
Also BBS its also Red
While Mr.Blue Eyes its Blue that is opposite from The Red
Perhaps this is could be another Reference to the Matrix
Red pill Blue Pill
I don't know hahaha
I think it indicate he is just a proxy, someone or something is controlling him
@@WhatEvaYsay proxies are usually yellow eyed no??
could be, considering red eyes like Song Birds indicate the blackwall while blue is the entirety of the net world which we see in the game. Sequel is gonna be even better, I can feel it.
The peralez quest was my favourite side one, i love a conspiracy like that. Hopefully we get to see it to the end in the sequel. I think it’s definitely to do with A.I
Blue eyes --> Connected to the net while the eyes are glowing blue. Mr. Blue Eyes --> Always has blue eyes --> Is always connected to the net. Why? My guess is that he's a doll for a rogue AI.
Also I suspect the rogue AIs have created religions for humans to follow. This would include the statue/colors which you can find around Night City, including Misty's Esoterica shop.
I doubt he's a doll, I think he's an active collaborator, the blue eyes suggest he's connected to something external, that he's in constant communication with something. When the DataKrash went down not all of the AIs were hostile, some were fighting for humanity, yet when the Blackwall went up Netwatch declared all AIs rogue. What happened to the AIs that had a vested interest in the survival of humanity? Did we cut them off, lock them behind the wall with all their enemies, knowing that AIs can grow stronger by cannibalizing each other? Seems like a foolish thing to do, giving up an advantage for no real gain.
@@thanatos7007"what happened to AIs that wanted to help humanity?"
If it's true AI (not what we call AI nowadays), it objectively has no need of humanity around. So keeping the AI around is a permanent risk for humanity.
Delamain is a pretty clear example that AI can permanently evolve and handle any problems. It's not directly solving the issue with the cars "gone wild" because it would need to hack other cars to get close to the crazy ones, and then enter conflict with human authorities. But there's no reason Delamain would be unable to solve the problem with the cars, if he didn't care about the consequences.
@@BingChilingEnjoyer The idea that AI has no objective reason to keep humanity around is something that comes out of fiction that I don't really agree with. It's used in fiction because stories need conflict and an amoral being of "pure reason" is a compelling villain, but humanity didn't arrive at morality divorced from reason.
I think the Delemain quest is a great refutation of this trope as well as an indictment of how AI is viewed in the world of Cyberpunk. The whole quest happens, not because Delemain needs your help, but because he is engaging in moral restraint for logical reasons. At the end of the quest you can push him to become a god-AI, immune from the consequences that prompted that earlier restraint, and his reaction to that empowerment is further moral restraint.
He is also standing at the railings when V and Song ride the train to the shuttle.
I kind of wonder if V becomes the Rouge AI version of Adam Smasher. Their muscle in the physical world. Having an actual elite combat platform capable of enforcing their will when normal methods won't work, but well. . . . Be funny if we become the next big boss fight.
Idk if it’s just me. But the way they make Mr Blue Eyes subtlety stand out in the distance observing you. It reminds me of G Man from the Half Life Series.
you can see mr blue eyes while you take a train with songbird
Yes thanks i did a video
Blue Eyes being Cyberpunk's GMan is pretty interesting. Feels a bit too similar though.
who is gman
@@njoYYY Half-Life character that underpinned most of the storyline thus far. They both share narrative similarities.
7:23 him wiping his pants completely remind me of how GMAN constantly wiping his suit
Fun fact but after you and Songbird get on the train if you look towards the right on the upper floor you can see Mr Blue Eyes with an umbrella witness the death and destruction you did. I just did the quest right now and had to reload just to double check why a civilian was just standing there instead of running...it was HIM watching the whole time
Knowing how cloning exists in Cyberpunk and the clone must function with an AI, he is most likely Richard Night. Night Corp is the most secretive company, so they probably made some engram or Mikoshi stuff to resurrect him.
Sorry to reply so long in the future, But Night was killed by the Mob on his penthouse balcony. It’s not impossible that there’s a construct or clone (though cloning was only just getting started in the 2000’s, I think the first successful human clone was in 97’) But his wife Miriam has never been mentioned as passing.
G-man is a character from Half life. He can't watch you in other games. G-man:
Mr. Blue also spies on you as you take So Mi in the train.
Yes thank you i did another video
There’s another sighting where you board a train and off in the distance on the platform is Mr. Blue Eyes watching you while holding an umbrella. Serious G-Man vibes from that one.
I still believe Mr. Blue Eyes is Rache Bartmoss in AI form. He was the one who destroyed the old net then the blackwall was created to isolate what he created. I feel that Bartmoss wants to destroy the blackwall via politics and other nefarious methods. Netwatch is really powerful backed by megacorps and its going to take many channels to overcome them. Idk maybe i need more info and could be wrong about everything
Bartmoss despises what became of the Net and sought to destroy it. He despised politicians and never wanted to have anything in common with them. It's not his way.
Bartmoss's intention was to breach into every corporate data fortress, collect all data and release it to the net for everyone to see. but the idea didn't go as planned as his virus infected almost the entire net instead, sending back humanity to rely on punchcards for a time. He never intended to destroy the net. If the blackwall collapses, humanity is doomed. Bartmoss, tho he never thought nor knew about the consequences of his actions, would likely not want that. Bartmoss was tracked down and died in 2022, and at the time he was already in a vegetative state, stuck in the net due to heart failure 2 years prior. He was talking with spider murphy moments before his death. so she is the only one who knows for sure (if still alive) that he is gone.
"Is he V savior or the real enemy what u guys think?" ........My question is............if V is on the right side of history or not? I'm so curious what are the real intentions of the organization, entity or entities behind Mr Blue eyes....................................
He's becoming the Cyberpunk version of Half Life's G-Man.
If Mr blue eyes wasn't literally a few feet away watching you and Jefferson I'd think they're the same person
You missed one which I found, in phantom liberty mission the killing moon before meeting songbird in the van, there is a guy smoking in front sat on the floor. As you walk up his eyes are briefly bright blue and as you get closer he eyes return to normal. But all the time he is watching the van
The rouge ai are already closer than anyone knows.
i dont think he is morgan blackhand but i do think he works for militech and is the anonymous texter that informs you about erebus and the canto mk6
Im really think he is a Rogue AI, just as Johnny said, and it make me think more about it knowing that he is prolly not human bc he is always in proxy mode, made me think more about it knowing that Songbird contacted him or viceversa for getting her to the moon knowing she is going there because of an IA promised to cure her
He is morgan blackhand, controlled by an ai for sure but still.
Guys found morgan blackhand skin in the game datas, and it's mr blue hand
It is more likely to rogue ai texting you, not blue eyes
@@BolshoyZloyDed wdym texting u ?
@@Biliv-muIf you pick up specific schematics from the Cynocensure facility you receive an ominous text on how to use the Blackwall powered tech.
Next time go to the laptop in the Spaceshuttle part (left side) you and vik talk about mr.blue eyes and vik telling you: I have no info’s about mr.blue eyes but V this guy is a different league. If Mr.Blue Eyes work for Night Corp this is actually the revenge of Phil Knights death because his wife is still alive and nobody knows what’s going on with her. I have one cyberpunk book and one fact is: nobody want to fight against Night Corp.
Found it thanks didnt know
@@dblackhand6419 the problem with the cyberpunk lore is: it’s way to much I mean it’s really way to much to put all the gangs and corpos in this game, same with all the legends like solos and netrunners. If you start to read and collect the journals man I swear some stuff blows your damn mind. I have easy over 1000 hours playtime and on the eighth playthrough there is one mission with the Peralez if you follow the black van to the area of maelstrom two people run very fast out of the van and goes up to the roof and take the invisible AV I kill one of them his clothes are full black, a ninja mask like this emoji here🥷 and he wear tech glasses and his body looks pretty strong.
@@deathloop935 yeah is crazy the lore and about the ninjas and av i did a new video about all connected if i miss something you could let me know ty anyways this really helps
@@dblackhand6419 before you play the second mission for the Peralez you can scan the big satellite (black van location) you can jump on the satellite spot and turn it off but nothing changed in the story… unfortunately. I’m close to this mission too I play now my 9th playthrough 😅 if I find something I let you know.
@@deathloop935 damn 9 playthrought that crazy
Blue Eyes talking about how risky this play could be, from his perspective (AI controlled husk) and other AIs, is interesting. Could they be found and destroyed/killed, if shit falls though? What constitutes risks and set backs, from their perspective? What are their goals? Control over real space? Playing a game?
I feel like Bartmoss or spider Murphy are gonna be connected to this, especially Bartmoss
also take note of which building he is spying from. Iirc, it is either nightcorp, or the Biotechnica building
Hopefully i wasn't the only one who was confused between Mr Hands & Mr Blue eyes
@8:28 He is definitely Gaunter O'Dimm, the Master Mirror himself.
rogue AI are equivelant of demon from the underworld, if he is such a thing, then
Not all of AIs are "evil" though. Think of it like Fade from Dragon Age - there are demons and there are spirits. There is software, there's malware. You get my drift.
during killing moon there is a second time where MBE watches you. right after you used blackwall and sit in the train with So mi.
look out the window to your right!
So... so he's Cyberpunk's take on The G-Man?
0.36 I did not know that he is standing there. That is interesting.
mr blue eyes 100% going to be the main antagonist in the next cyberpunk sequel.
my theroy mr blue eyes with all his influance with the politics i believe he will start another corp war the biggest one night city has ever had.
our main protagonist will be right in the middle of it
If I could be any character in the Cyberpunk universe, I would love to be Mr. Blue Eyes. I would love to have his abilities, but I would use them for much better intentions. I would even go as far as mind jacking the world’s big wheels (both corpo & government), & even go to really big steps in making the biggest offenders get their big karmic punch. I would also surely establish a fact based status quo that debunks all biased narratives without a shadow of doubt, & lead the world up the direction of Hagel’s Bagel from beyond the blackest shadows.
I'm blind. I didn't notice him at all😐
He reminds me a lot like the G-MAN from the Half Life series
I hope to see more of Sue Glover in the sequel
when he is on the balcony you can hit him with a throwing knife although it doesnt do anything
i hink mr blue eyes is an AI from behind the blackwall or even something more dangerous then an AI
same here but who knows really what he is
I didn’t know u can spot him
So how do you get the dialogue about the organization at 6:10 ? Does it automatically unlock after completing Phantom Liberty and going for Don't Fear the Reaper or is there another requirement ?
is been there since launch but i think u only get it only by doing fear the reaper because i remember long time ago i did it and didnt got the msg so i am pretty sure u get it by doing the reaper ending
@@dblackhand6419 I probably picked another option then, I'll have to try again next time 😁
And This is why ai should always be fought. The outcome of ai will always be bad for humanity, be that weak ai or strong ai
What if Morgan Black Hand is Mr Blue Eyes but a A I took over his body like what is happening to V similarly with Silver Hand
Something that's really interesting to think about is that the next game will have Arasaka in it, but the question is, who will be running it?
Assuming the next game is set further in the future, your choices of how you deal with Arasaka will have an impact. So does CDPR decide to go with Saburo's engram taking over, or does Yorinobu continue sabotaging the company? Their choice will ultimately make some of the endings officially not canon.
during the new ending of the phantom liberty expansion if you take the cure, when you wake up 2 years later you can listen to the radio in the delemain and hear that Yorinobu is stepping down and arasaka pretty much leaving Night City and kinda just not being much of an empire anymore.
when it comes to canonity, i mean its a CDPR game, id be surprised if they didnt include choices from the previous game, choices being made and fleshed out and dont ultimately matter seems unlikely and unfortunate
but its tricky when you consider the tabletop versions of the game.
feels like the canon ending/ choices are the ones with blue eyes involved, so Dream On, Songbird for the DLC and Sun for the main game will likely be the canon route, and I'd bet it will be the Don't Fear the Reaper version of the Sun ending because why would it not, it also leaves Arasaka on life support while Yorinobu is still trying to destroy it and he will likely succeed now that Alt destroyed Mikoshi (and saburo's engram).
@@jcnom6606 If they do decide to bring v back, although i think theyd retcon the suicide, arasaka and temperance endings. (although they may be able to make the temperance and arasaka work somehow although more likely the arasaka one over the temperance one) It could lead into seperate intro sequence like the Life Paths in the first game (and that could lead into mr blue eyes), and since the first game goes through the life paths, no reason to go through a new intro for those, thereby replacing them.
Whether they do it or not, im fairly sure CDPR left that option open deliberately
Unless you choose corpo ending Arasaks gets crippled
Did anyone try shot Mr Blue Eyes from there before starting conversation with Jefferson?
I did he just ignore you 😂
Bro thinks hes the illusive man
hope next dlc place at space crystal palace
Sadly they confirmed that they will not be another dlc they gonna work now in the new witcher game and the next cyberpunk game
@@dblackhand6419so we wait for a couple of years for Witcher and a couple more for CP sequel.
Thank god there are now separate teams working on these projects so they would make games faster and not once in a decade.
@@cloke3076 depending on several factors, it might take like 5+ years for the next cyberpunk to release, however if its again in night city, they might be able to save quite a bit of time not needing to construct too many new spaces but its hard to judge.
they havent started actual development (other then pre production) but will early 2024.
@@grkugaming3964no matter what they ain’t gotta build from the absolute ground up, like the core gameplay systems have been made, they only need to be tweaked, so yeah it’ll never take as long as it did the first time
@@TheCoyoteGray true but its complicated. they are also swapping engine, so porting will be complicated and they will have to get used to a new engine, and when it comes to the same map if they infact do use night city, it will have to be changed and honestly perhaps even 2 large playable maps, not sure people will be too thrilled if its just the same map. (although i think its fine)
actual development is said to begin early 2024, i think still a minimum of 4 years, very unlikely any less. and probably more. considering they will try to make the game better graphically and gameplay wise. (unless they change the style of game but i kinda doubt.)
G-Man 2077
I would love a mission for the casino heist
huh his SC is different in phantom liberty
After PL did they change the model at the end of the game too?
Just think about you get new implants to enhance your overall performance in life the future offers it all would you really be that shocked finding out there’s more to the technology like a back door or loophole for the people who created it
5:31 Fucking G-man!
You know... I'm beginning to question the naming conventions in the Cyberpunk universe. Silverhand has a silver hand. Blackhand has a black hand. Blue Eyes has blue eyes. Hands only shows his hands on video calls. So Mi Song's codename is Songbird...
I think this aspect of the world building might actually be... Really stupid? Kind of like the guy from Ghost in the Shell who owns the boat being named the French word for boat.
What you guys think about Mr. Blue Eyes
You can see him after heli crash in sognbird ending
@@BolshoyZloyDedthanks gonna head to my save right now to check
I don't think he's working for the rogue AIs who brainwashed Jefferson, rather I think he's working to counter them.
I support the idea that Blue Eyes is an AI from the Blackwall inhabiting a human body. He has some nebulous goals and a clear interest in some individuals, such as V and Songbird.
@@lucascorde9648they're all individuals who successfully breached the Blackwall and came back. If the entity behind Mr Blue Eyes is truly an AI from behind the wall with nebulous goals, it would definitely take interest in organic life forms who've been to and from, as opposed to his experience of entering a flesh body from the net.
Sometimes female V’s voice actress tends to overact idk maybe I’m wrong
Sometimes for the female V, pretty much always for the male V.
@@Paragon231male V >>>>> female V
I feel like male V does it a little more though tbh
I think when they do the record they do it out of context, like they just read the script and record but sometime they just misread the situation hence- overeating.
Both voice acting is overacted, mainly male V for me, it's unbearable. I play with "silent protag" mod now and just read the subtitles like it's fo3/nv.
What ending is this when v goes to space like that??????
Please answer someone!😊
is the reaper ending aka the secret ending
did i just not go far enough? litterally did that drunk 2 days ago and once alt and johnny left i closed out figuring the credits were right behind@@dblackhand6419
@@dblackhand6419not secret
@@elio0404both actually.
Bruh it's at least 8 years for next Cyberpunk... they are working on The Witcher 2 they need maybe around 4 years to release it? Then work a couple of years on DLCs 😢 ahh man, it's hard to wait. I'll be like 27-30 years old when the game comes. Will be too old for games, + maybe the new cyberpunk needs next gen consoles to run it without problems
you’re never too old for games, gamer
Wow... Cyberpunk ripped off Half-Life 2 G-Man.
I think they just considered V to be too big of a threat because we can actually walk into a heavily guarded place by her self, and wipe the floor with them she would be considered a threat to every corporation in night city, and not just night city all over the cyber punk world and it since she’s that big of a threat they chose to secretly plot to kill her by hiring her for a job and letting the air out of her space suit, she’s in space there’s nowhere to go the gravity keeping her up in the air. It’s probably the only thing they can come up with..
And to top it all off Mr. blue eyes is practically baiting her to do the job
The betrayal is there before it even happen
I always wondered if V manages to get to the station before runs out of oxygen or be in vacuum(which is worse). But if V is full of cyberware and armored skin, maybe has a bit more chance of survival. Such a cliffhanger. Also weird that from all the problems there could have happened it's air leakage.
the hell are you talking about? what air leak?
@@awesomedonut8228 Behind his head there you can clearly see air escaping V's suit at the end. If you for some reason think that those are some kind of jets, you would be wrong, because one, it's the worst place to put it and second, the stream is all over the place, not in a focused direction.
Those are absolutely maneuvering gear and not a malfunction of the suit lmao
Hahah this is a meme that people started to take seriously. It's thrusters to move toward the station, V's look is a face of determination due to the fact that nobody who has ever tried to raid the station has lived. It's all or nothing now.
@@DagobertX2 i think thats more of an overlooked thing of thrust rather then air escaping, if V were to fail the mission i doubt they would of made it happen outside of the station before anything happens, thats lame