The equalizer wet bolt kit is a great upgrade and glad to ear you added lateral support to spring hangers But the most noticeable for me along with everything was the Sumo springs they stopped the bounce ,reduced sway and porposing. I’ll next be adding custom mounted shocks along with Sumos but the shock kits they make can’t be used with The Sumos . One guy brags about being able to leave a glass of water on his counter after placing shocks.🍻
Thank you for this video, I have done this job for just the spring replacements, and definately getting the entire frame both sides jacked up and supported made this job so much easier. I did not lift my trailer as it is already pretty high but I did replace the leaf springs, wet bolts and CRE 3000. I still have the other side to do (it got too dark). I already replaced the other leaf springs (broke one on the road). So only wet bolt kit and CRE 3000 on the other side.
I also have quite a bit of off road experience and 20+ yrs in automotive testing. With all the videos I’ve seen with leaf spring hangers on travel and 5th wheels, I’d say they need to install some kind of track bar to eliminate the side loading. I would think the lift kits would amplify the side loads on the shackle brackets. Good luck to you and keep us updated on the durability… and congrats on expecting the new little addition.
Looks good! I hope you pulled the white plastic sleeves out of the new leaf springs and replaced them with the bronze sleeves like what came in your new equalizers…
Awesome video!!! Truly amazing detail and quality. Im doing this exact same upgsde to my Coachmen Apex Aultralite as soon as the leafs get here. Side note, it may not be the case but it almost looks as if your hanger extension that you bolted on could have been flipped around to sort of wrap around the original hanger. It almost looks like it was designed to do that...but maybe not. See 7:12
Thank you, I thought the same but installed according to the directions. Als we didn't film it but we welded in all the hangers and made cross tubes. Thanks for watching, purchasing though our link when you are ready really helps us out.
It's called an equalizer...😄 It doesn't really do much to absorb shock and smooth out the rough roads... that is not their purpose. If you've ever seen video of these in action, you can see that they just simply rock back and forth to "equalize" (hence, the name) the movement of each set of leaf springs. Very minimal, but still noticeable improvement, depending on what your baseline was. The rubber bushings are just a slight upgrade, but the heavy duty shackles and wet bolts are always a good idea.
So jealous here.. We just got in our lift kits recently and were all set to install this week but somehow we were sent the old correct track brackets (which they don't make anymore so not sure how that happened) for 2 of the sets. Hopefully our order gets figured out and reshipped quickly! Your install looks great btw!
Im actually doing this this weekend but I'm adding morryde x-factor braces in. It allows for more cross support because we all know the suspension brackets last forever , wink wink!!!
@@AdventureEndeavor morride makes a longer wet bolt that should work on those ends. I had to get it because my trailer has what they call correct Track stock from the RV manufactor which is made by LCI.
@@AdventureEndeavor Got it all in and cant wait to try it out next week when we leave for Pensacola. Thanks for putting out videos like these, even though Im a seasoned Auto tech knowing what I'm up against in anything helps. Did have some trouble with the correct track bolts . My press made it a lot easier. Safe travels you too and to you to little one!!!
Just a friendly word of caution. If you raise the trailer you need cross bracing. I just returned from Alaska with a broken trailer frame. I had the correct track to raise the trailer and because of my height it put too much torque on my frame. I now have cross bracing and all is good.
Thanks for the advice. Do you mean from shaco hanger to shackle hanger? Because we did that as well, we also welded in gussets under every shackle hanger
Side to side. My frame flexed from the torque of the taller suspension (think of a longer wrench or cheater bar). My frame cracked horizontally on both sides just above the wheels. I installed angle iron from frame hanger to frame hanger with diagonal bracing from the angle iron to the frame. Hope this helps and safe travels!
The lift kit drop brackets are a very bad idea. What happens over time while off-roading with them is they Warp and bend because they're longer and it creates leverage. You're better off using a set of axle blocks with longer u bolts. Otherwise fantastic video
Yeah we know they are not ideal, we plan on having a local welder gusset all the hangers and install cross over tubes. It will be very strong when finished.👍💪
Why not take the jacks off and weld a trailer receiver (female) to the frame and weld the male to the top of the jack so you can remove them as needed when going off road? Also I’d suggest having someone fab up skid rails for your plumbing. lol possibly speaking from experience
Yeah, we would like to make it more capable, but it's also pretty Large in general. We have a local fabricator, we also want to keep it as practical as possible.
Two comments....first you should have replaced the nylon spring bushings with bronze....second you need to reinforce the spring hangers. They tear off too often without the lift kit. You probably doubled the chance of a failure with the lift.
We did not pay for the kit. We included a paid promotion tag at the beginning. We are Lippert Brand Ambassadors so they sent it out to us. I believe everything would run about 750-900 depending on what parts you selected. We linked the Lippert website in the description.
How do you figure? I added a paid promotion label, told you in the video that we are brand ambassadors and that the product was given to us. Stop trolling John, find a way to be happy.
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The equalizer wet bolt kit is a great upgrade and glad to ear you added lateral support to spring hangers
But the most noticeable for me along with everything was the Sumo springs they stopped the bounce ,reduced sway and porposing. I’ll next be adding custom mounted shocks along with Sumos but the shock kits they make can’t be used with
The Sumos . One guy brags about being able to leave a glass of water on his counter after placing shocks.🍻
All great upgrades, but at what point would independent be a better solution? Asking for myself also
Thank you for this video, I have done this job for just the spring replacements, and definately getting the entire frame both sides jacked up and supported made this job so much easier. I did not lift my trailer as it is already pretty high but I did replace the leaf springs, wet bolts and CRE 3000. I still have the other side to do (it got too dark). I already replaced the other leaf springs (broke one on the road). So only wet bolt kit and CRE 3000 on the other side.
Nice, it's a great upgrade!
Looks pretty straight forward. After changing the blown rear axle in '05 Nissan Titan from heavy trailering, that looks like a snap!
Pretty easy, especially if you have a couple big jacks.
Good video, thanks
Glad you found it helpful!
I also have quite a bit of off road experience and 20+ yrs in automotive testing. With all the videos I’ve seen with leaf spring hangers on travel and 5th wheels, I’d say they need to install some kind of track bar to eliminate the side loading. I would think the lift kits would amplify the side loads on the shackle brackets. Good luck to you and keep us updated on the durability… and congrats on expecting the new little addition.
We didn't include it in the video but all hangers were welded in and we added side to side brackets
Agree...especially with the heavy 5th wheels. Substantial side loading in tight turns! I use the MORryde X Factor cross braces.
Did you replace all the plastic spring bushings with brass ?
I believe so this was many years ago and it's still working Great
Love this... great mod ! We were just discussing this after driving roads in Oklahoma.. haha
Thanks guys! It's going to make a big difference. Plus us full-timers can use the extra spring weight.
I live in Oklahoma and I’ll admit our roads are bad however the ALCAN makes our roads look good.
Looks good!
I hope you pulled the white plastic sleeves out of the new leaf springs and replaced them with the bronze sleeves like what came in your new equalizers…
Unfortunately no we didn't have them. That will have to be a maintenance item down the road.
Hey Jesse, you might also want to consider adding Morryde X-Factor cross members!
Yup it's on our list! I'll probably have a local buddy make them for us! Thanks for the advice!
@@AdventureEndeavor I’ve also added shock absorbers as well to my fifth wheel, in addition to all that you have plus the X-Factors of course.
Awesome video!!! Truly amazing detail and quality. Im doing this exact same upgsde to my Coachmen Apex Aultralite as soon as the leafs get here.
Side note, it may not be the case but it almost looks as if your hanger extension that you bolted on could have been flipped around to sort of wrap around the original hanger. It almost looks like it was designed to do that...but maybe not. See 7:12
Thank you, I thought the same but installed according to the directions. Als we didn't film it but we welded in all the hangers and made cross tubes. Thanks for watching, purchasing though our link when you are ready really helps us out.
Great information!
Thanks Joyce. Hopefully this saves our trailer for the lung run.
It's called an equalizer...😄 It doesn't really do much to absorb shock and smooth out the rough roads... that is not their purpose. If you've ever seen video of these in action, you can see that they just simply rock back and forth to "equalize" (hence, the name) the movement of each set of leaf springs. Very minimal, but still noticeable improvement, depending on what your baseline was.
The rubber bushings are just a slight upgrade, but the heavy duty shackles and wet bolts are always a good idea.
We'll talk to Lippert and their description haha
So jealous here.. We just got in our lift kits recently and were all set to install this week but somehow we were sent the old correct track brackets (which they don't make anymore so not sure how that happened) for 2 of the sets. Hopefully our order gets figured out and reshipped quickly! Your install looks great btw!
That's a bummer, im sure it will get figured out! Seems good so far, I still have to do the other side lol
Great video, plan on doing same, just need to know where lift kit came from (order address or link
@kimbailey9730 the lift is Lippert as well.
Im actually doing this this weekend but I'm adding morryde x-factor braces in. It allows for more cross support because we all know the suspension brackets last forever , wink wink!!!
Yeah that's a nice upgrade. Many people have mentioned them, I'm going to have a local welder make some for me, along with a few other supports
@@AdventureEndeavor morride makes a longer wet bolt that should work on those ends. I had to get it because my trailer has what they call correct Track stock from the RV manufactor which is made by LCI.
Oh that's great to know! Thank you.
@@AdventureEndeavor Got it all in and cant wait to try it out next week when we leave for Pensacola. Thanks for putting out videos like these, even though Im a seasoned Auto tech knowing what I'm up against in anything helps. Did have some trouble with the correct track bolts . My press made it a lot easier. Safe travels you too and to you to little one!!!
You are welcome and we appreciate you watching. It's what keeps us making them. Safe travels, btw Pensacola is a cool town!
Just a friendly word of caution. If you raise the trailer you need cross bracing. I just returned from Alaska with a broken trailer frame. I had the correct track to raise the trailer and because of my height it put too much torque on my frame. I now have cross bracing and all is good.
Thanks for the advice. Do you mean from shaco hanger to shackle hanger? Because we did that as well, we also welded in gussets under every shackle hanger
Side to side. My frame flexed from the torque of the taller suspension (think of a longer wrench or cheater bar). My frame cracked horizontally on both sides just above the wheels. I installed angle iron from frame hanger to frame hanger with diagonal bracing from the angle iron to the frame. Hope this helps and safe travels!
Yup we did the same just didn't film it
The lift kit drop brackets are a very bad idea. What happens over time while off-roading with them is they Warp and bend because they're longer and it creates leverage. You're better off using a set of axle blocks with longer u bolts. Otherwise fantastic video
Yeah we know they are not ideal, we plan on having a local welder gusset all the hangers and install cross over tubes. It will be very strong when finished.👍💪
Add Morryde X-Factor cross members…plus the extra welds. ;-)
That's the plan! It will all get beefed up!
Did you replace the plastic spring bushings with brass ones ?
Yes as far as i can remeber.
Why not take the jacks off and weld a trailer receiver (female) to the frame and weld the male to the top of the jack so you can remove them as needed when going off road? Also I’d suggest having someone fab up skid rails for your plumbing. lol possibly speaking from experience
Yeah, we would like to make it more capable, but it's also pretty Large in general. We have a local fabricator, we also want to keep it as practical as possible.
Love the lift. Where did you find the lift brackets? We are wanting to install 16 inch tires on our 2500RL Imagine and need an additional 1.5 inches.
It's on Lippert website, we linked it in the description below.
How do you know if you needed the 2 1/4” shackles or the 3 1/8” ones?
There are a lot of details that go into that. I would just shoot Lippert an email with all your details to make sure you get the right parts.
I need this modification
It's quite nice!
What's the difference between the yellow and the blue
Different brands i believe.
Does an axle alignment need to be done after replacing everything new?
I wouldn't think so with leaf springs. We didn't move the spring hangers at all.
But you took the axles off. You sure it's aligned?
The hangers were never removed it should be fine.
Where did you get your hanger lift plates
Lippert components. 1.8" lift
I was unable to locate the hanger lift plates on lippert site do you have a sku number or part number to use? I am ordering my Modification
Here you go!
SKU 425750
Two comments....first you should have replaced the nylon spring bushings with bronze....second you need to reinforce the spring hangers. They tear off too often without the lift kit. You probably doubled the chance of a failure with the lift.
Everything was boxed and welded in, we chose not to include that in the video. We also added cross braces from hanger to hanger.
What did you pay for this kit.
We did not pay for the kit. We included a paid promotion tag at the beginning. We are Lippert Brand Ambassadors so they sent it out to us. I believe everything would run about 750-900 depending on what parts you selected. We linked the Lippert website in the description.
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Thanks for watching, hopefully it was helpful!
How about the fenders? You need some rock protection behind the tires. How about mud plates?
Do we? Do you mean because we have the lift now?
@@AdventureEndeavor you have the lift plus to reduce damage if anything occurs. I want you to have the most damage proof trailer out there.
@@aaronhendrickson possibly I'll look into it. 👍
i love it when titles mislead into life story type videos - nice to have my time wasted
Haha what? I literally show you the suspension install....🤔
Another scam video.
How do you figure? I added a paid promotion label, told you in the video that we are brand ambassadors and that the product was given to us. Stop trolling John, find a way to be happy.