This was very useful, as I am currently looking into building a new rig for video creation, editing, 3d content creation, and gaming. Planning to start out with 16 gigs of ram, and within a month or two, buy another 4x4 3200 to get me up to 32gigs.
Depends on how many creepers lol just kidding please don't make a Minecraft server. The world will spontaneously combust and destroys every form of life in the universe except Steve and then he will start his own species and then start the universe again but everything will be square. Yes, I am Vsauce
When I got a computer with 16GB ram I thought I would never use it all, then I started writing music on FL studio with a TON of VST orchestra plugins running (like 15-20 loaded at a single time) I have never maxed my ram out but I have gotten close at 12GB used, Next PC I will be at least doubling the amount of ram.
95TurboSol Yup, music production is a different thing. People even have multiple machines networked so they can use today's big instrument libraries. And ProTools users have a benefit of loading an entire project into RAM, so yeah, 16GB is a minimum today I'd say.
ovo nisamja Wow, never heard of networked computers to do that, I don't think I will ever have that epic of a setup but I will definitely be getting more ram at least.
+95TurboSol You only need that much RAM for FL, if you're using sample libraries, like you said. If you don't use insanely large libraries, 8-16 is just fine. I plan on using no libraries at all. I went for an over-powered CPU over a ton of RAM, as I prefer to use synths and large EQ chains.
LinusTechTips ***** Doesn't matter if you have 100 monitors, what could you possibly use 50+ tabs for? Like I said, at 20 tabs you're going to stop being able to keep track.
Ill make this simple. Web Browsing = 4GB Gaming = 8GB-16GB Video Editing, Normal Rendering = 32GB Heavy Video Editing, Heavy Rendering = 64GB Anything above = 128GB
+The British Dude xD the serverpark of my university has this much ram... yet it lags like hell as the virtual machines bring the system down for lack of ram lol
More is not equal to better. I am reading all of your comments and I think a lot of you are confused on what RAM is for. CPU and Motherboard are the primary components that are going to throttle your performance. RAM is more of an accessory, though a needed one, you can have all the RAM in the world but if it has shit latency its going to throttle you anyways. For gaming your going to be utilizing the the graphic card, specifically designed (GDDR SDRAM), gaming memory way more then the on-board RAM. With music programs you are going to use your CPU to hammer out the calculations more then you need a place to store information which RAM is for. Im not saying you are not going to need a bit of it to get the job done without timing issues but its mainly riding on the CPUs ability to crunch the calculations and get them off the RAM then storing them and waiting for you CPU to deal with them. When I was a kid, I found it was best to look at it like the computer was functioning as a cubical. I know its rudimentary but it helped me learn the basics of what was going on. You have your "Worker" who is the CPU or Processor, the "Desk" which is the RAM or Memory and the "Filing Cabinet" which is the hard drive. The faster the "Worker" can do his job the faster he can clear the "Desk". The more RAM the bigger the "Desk" he works at and the "filing cabinet" is permanent storage that can be pulled from and stored to for long term where the RAM is a temporary, but more quickly accessible location (The reason solidstate HDs have a faster read/right is they are essentially based on RAM). More RAM is a bigger "Desk" for storing files being worked on. That doesn't make the worker work faster and it takes longer for him to hammer out the tasks before he can move in more data. Basically what it comes down to is everything has a cap and not one component can work at its cap if other things are under-speced to its counterparts. Its always going to bottle neck at its slowest component. That is almost always the Motherboard or CPU. Not saying more RAM cant help in some cases but in most it is a insufficient CPU and though it is a more expensive upgrade you will see a WAY larger performance increase VS the upgrading of RAM. Hope that helps alot of your confusion. If your going to upgrade talk to a professional, and I am not talking about a salesman. Take Care and Good Luck!
+Freddie Forskin Lol, Your welcome. It worked for me. Like I said I was a kid, about 8 when I built my first PC. My dad was a Electrical Engineer and explained it to me that way. I went on to become a Computer Repair Tech pretty young and got my BS in IT back in 2001. I don't do it anymore though because innovation is out the window in the fields. Techs are underpaid and professionals replace instead of fix now days. I should have became a Software or Electrical Engineer. Lol.
+David Schroeder Enough of RAM is enough, too much RAM is waste of money and resources. If your computer doesn't have enough RAM, then it cannot show its full potential :)
Possible. Though very rarely the case. RAM doesn't use resources other than power. It gives resources. Full potential isn't anything you can get out of the box even with overclocked or high performance products.
Yeah but a wider desk allows to have instant access to all the stuff one often use rather than having to search for (and then store) it in the much slower "desk". E.g. my browser's profile or NAS logs are all in tmpfs (RAMdisk for all Windows® dudes here). Beside this you're making a point here. Nice to share your smart kid way of better understanding!
Also Keep in mind of multitasking. I use a vm (virtual machine) for school and having 16gb of ram is necessary for 3 or more VM running. Running more than one demanding task is more realistic than only running a single program. If you have the cash, i say get 16gb. Its always nice to have your computer running smoothly while your busy working on stuff, but getting 8gb is just fine, like linus said.
The .Reaper They don't respect user feedback or user opinion (the dev team were caught mocking the users of /r/firefox in their IRC channel upon the release of Australis), so they can go fuck themselves. Australis is a joke and a pathetic copy of Chrome. They no longer have any identity. They still haven't implemented Electrolysis (process per tab model already in use in Chrome and hell even IE had it first). Oh, I could go on.
Nothinglastsforever Maybe I should cut the middle man and use chromium. But then I'd be missing some stellar features added by google. It's a shame, really. Chrome has RAM problems, IE is... IE. Firefox has some layout and design choices that I really don't like, that I feel are really inconvenient. And I'm not planning on switching to opera or safari any time soon.
NaiOni Yep! Chrome has _serious_ RAM leakage problems that they're too lazy to address because it likely only exhibits itself in ~1-5% of heavy power users. Most users with 1-5 tabs open would never notice it.
+CariagaXIII As I hold Unity for the day when I start taking the solo game developer path, I am concerned if 16 GB is enough to handle such work, with CPU and GPU to match. Once I have a proper resource pool, I may as well have my first custom PC designed to have one-man game development as the performance max, not gaming. I doubt that doing 3D modeling in a 4GB i5 laptop with HD 4000 would do proper treatment, not to mention not having a reliable resource pool, so dabbling in that path is not the right time.
lightmapping and rebuilding is the only thing that takes so much ram in unity3d if you can afford an ssd it will help rebuilding of large projects. but for anything cpu makes the biggest difference heck save up for an xeon 12-24core cpu StarACE112
If the gtx 970 performs better than a 780ti (in most cases) and is at the same price as a gtx 770 (when they game out), I believe that is a greasy price to performance card.
The .Reaper You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, or you are an ignorant fanboy. (AMD Card user here so i am not defending Nvidia solely for fanboy purposes)
i need 32GB!! when im editing certain videos that call for me to throw on the warp stabilizer effect on every clip in the sequence i usually monitor the RAM usage and Premiere uses 29GB out of the 32GB installed!
this was a brilliant video. i usually watch your videos to find ways to describe common computer terminology to customers, but this was a refreshing change of pace, restoring in me my love for processes
These guys get a ton of pc hardware like leafs. I barely have 16 ram 2 970 gyx 4gb 1 tb ssd evo. i7-5500k 4.2 ghz This is like gum for them, and ive worked so hard for this ;-;
+Kevin Castro Casanova LOL had to comment on this... you "barely have etc. etc." 1 TB SSD is already beast and expensive right there.. glad you [edit typo] managed to achieve it i'm thinking of upgrading to a 250GB SSD haha
I really love to watch your older videos! They are still awesome! Actually I have learned the most about computers while watching your videos. Thank you and keep it up!
Man, if you guys ever need to use graphs and stuff again keep getting Edzel to do it. That shit was smoother than silk. Also, I always a cringe when Linus does the whole "oh and you should remember to subscribe because of this and that" at the beginning. It feels so incredibly forced. It's not that it's at the start of the video that bothers me it's the execution. Luke does it very well and it feels very natural. I'm just trying to give some constructive criticism, if it sounds like I'm hatin' I'm sorry.
In music production it's common to hook up slave computers in order to actually get beyond 128GB, to deal with the many different plugins loaded and the large amount of samples being played at the same time. I would love to see a similar run through in that environment!
zZViperBoostingZz Yes, I realized that when I connected it :P A proper monitor is planned, but they cost a bit. Still, calibrating helps a little. Just have to actually do that :P
Crunchyroll is pretty much an USA only site. Otherwise the customer support pretty much ignores you, even when you're trying to give them money. I used to use CR, but I've long since moved onto a different site. The one I'm on has no regional locks, and no ads(in the video. There are some on the page, but that's fixed with an adblock).
Aussie here, I've used it a bit (until less than a month ago I was on ADSL1) and have many friends who have used it *extensively*. Very few have complained of 'content not available in your region' messages, So I guess for once we're not getting screwed over.
I've been using crunchyroll for about two and a half years now, and I HIGHLY recommend it to anybody that wants to watch anime, legally. They have an incredibly vast selection of anime - that expands rather constantly, often adding in older anime, and the best part of it, in my opinion, is it is legal, and supports the industry. It's not gonna be your end-all be all. Sometimes Netflix will have something Crunchyroll has, and sometimes you'll end up joining Luffy for an adventure. But it's pretty damn good, at least.
I've been using crunchyroll since my first year in college back in 2005! Great website, and the best thing about it is free members can still watch every episode except for the latest one! You only need a premium membership if you dont want to be a week late on episodes basically.
Nemo Nekoi Sometimes. Sometimes not. Don't believe they have any movies. You'd have to go elsewhere for those. But CR offers a *lot* of anime, at a good price, and it supports the industry.
John Joseph Labrier I've been member of CR since Jun 13, 2010 ^_^, that's 4 years and 5 months. Anyway.. what I wanted to say is actually if you use free membership you not only can only watch last episode a week later, but you can also only watch 480p and full with ads. (the ads issue can be worked around with an adblocker, but it's a shame for no 720p or even 1080p.) LinusTechTips Woot, really happy you chose Crunchyroll as a sponsor, though I doubt you'll see this, in case you do I just want to ask (if you can tell) if it was you/your team or Crunchyroll that contacted you with this sponsorship ^_^
"supports the industry" not really. The same goes for other streaming services like Spotify. The creaters get near to nothing off your subscription payments.
Edzel Yago Actually after spending a little time with Sway, I realized that it *wasn't* exactly Sway they were using. But I suppose the idea is similar.
Edzel Yago The animations were great Edzel, and on the topic of the animations, this is just a general idea for a video, and something I would like to see. I am wondering if at some point you guys could do a video on your workflow in how you create these videos. Videos on not only how they are filmed, but also editing and how you go about your daily LTT tasks would be awesome to see!
Hyperthreading is not an extra core, it actually just allows one to utilize the unutilized parts of the processor at the same time. So if your program does a bunch of divisions having a hyper thread will also allow you to use the adder at the same time.
Linus, I love the cool graphs and transitions that were used in the video. Reminded me of Google's new design philosophy "material design". Seemed really friendly and fluid. Also speaking of material design, any plans to do a review of the newly released nexus devices(6, 9, and android TV)? Anyways, great video, really useful information :-)
Jason C. Also, A large chunk of PC users are gamers and most people who frequent this channel are gamers due to the graphics card reviews and generally the awesome gaming things and technologies that affect gamers so your "why is gaming always the standard" doesn't really apply to most of the people in the comments.
Thanks for this video. I been facing this question a lot when i go to get a new computer or been faced with this question when people come to me for advice. I always told them that between 8-16 gigs should be enough unless you are doing more intensive work. However, this video really helps better explain how much ram you really need in relation to the average workload one places on the machine.
here’s what i found as a full time shooter editor... threadripper 1950x 1080ti 128gb ram 4 gtech 10tb thunderbolt 3 drives and i can have my three main apps open premiere, photoshop and resolve // and cut, colour correct, pull stills and render at the same time and the system stays responsive, allowing for spotify, dropbox uploads/downloads and Prime Minister’s question time on youtube! 😉 conclusion - for each app you don’t need much - but to run them together, at the same time as leaving your system open to run additional apps - for me - is priceless! ps. you can’t put a price on seeing a client’s face as you colour grade the clip you just cut in real-time - that makes my day.
Shawn Nobert Well, I'm someone who uses thing's like skype in the background and that can be abit of a setback. I would rather have 16GB over 8GB just to be safe.
This may be a dumb question as Techsmith says "4 GB RAM minimum (Recommended: 8 GB or more)" the "8 GB or more" leaves you open to wondering why is it when I edit a video over 6 minutes long on a system with Windows 7, 16 GB DDR 4 all SSD, R9 390 GPU with 8 GB DDR5 and an I7 5820K, it begins to get sluggish and actually crash at times? Do you have a video testing Camtasia or "CamCrashia" as some call it?
yea only for 4k rendering ,other than that 16gb - 8 gb all the way. its waste of money if you dont do 4k render or heavy video editing and have more than 16 gb
+Seraphim Eter I love using Salvaged parts. My Windows 8.1 hard drive is a 9 year old Seagate Barracuda 75 GB 7200 RPM drive. Have two of those and a 1TB drive i bought new. I maintain the drives regularly, which is probably why they're still kicking :D
This is very helpful for me. I like to know what to recommend for everyone's individual needs when they ask " *how* *much* RAM *do* *i* *really* *need* ?" so this is immensely *helpful* even though *i* *dont* make use of video/photo editing software.
Right now for gaming, 8GB is absolutely required bare minimum. 16GB is the sweet spot, to be able to run anything well, and still have some left over for disk cache to speed loading further. 32GB is the "overkill, but still nice if you run a lot of things at once". Anything more than 32GB at this point is pointless even taking OS disk cache into account, unless you are running some sort of specialty applications that need that much.
Monkeyd Chunk yea right. pics or its not right. one does not simply use 364 (i am not even sure your O.S. can handle that much) gb of ram unless you are running a crazy ass server
Musa.Joker Anything above 16 is useless unless for whatever fucked up reason your playing 6 games at once. I've never even seen bf4 go over 4 gigs for me.
LOL ima play csgo now. ON my GTX 970 INTEL 5920k i7 32 gb ram 2400 mhz thats my bosses PC btw i work at a PC Dev center but most of the computers we have are intel iop331 platform soo windows wont work on it that well but it has i think 32 cores and 120 gb ram and over 12200 gb of data space. ANYWAY nice talkin
I see what you mean. Who cares if the computers are limited? The only thing that comes out is negatives. People will buy motherboards with more ram slots rather than less. Think it out buddy.
What is so interesting about this video is that it answered precisely what I wanted to know. I wanted to know if a RAM disk benefited the user, when allocated as a scratch disk.
did you reboot your system between each testing? since the operating system would cache(that is, temporarily store) the file on the ram once it is read, so there would be no difference between using ramdisk/hdd if you don't reboot.
LinusTechTips keep in mind that u can mount ram via tmpfs on linux, for software developers this means that you can reduce buildtime from 2 min to 3 seconds, which is a huge impact
I love these videos teaching the difference between awesome and overkill. Definite like. And now my dad has 12GB RAM in a laptop for going on the internet...
Dj SoundKiller 4 Gb is enough for Reason 5. I used it with 2 Gb DDR2, and i hardly got any lag. (used a lot of VST in a project, along with many sample) 8 Gb is the top you'll need.
I need approximately 2 rams to break through a city gate. The first one usually gets burned down by the flaming arrows.
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The real question is how many tabs you can open in chrome.
Can I open half a tab with 128GB of RAM?
But can it run crisis?
No, maybe it can run minesweeper at 1 frame on the lowest settings.
They answered this in a recent video, if you still want to know :)
I like how this guy is randomly presenting from a kitchen. Going to cook with that ram??
That was their old studio / office. You really don't know LTT do you, this video was well over a year ago.... Go check a recent one
yeah, in another video he mentions that he had to do the video in the hallway (sketchy heatsink 2)
Maybe some RAMon noodles?
im sure its his kitchen he did the intel special unboxing there he used the taps etc
GREEN EGGS AND RAM 2 YEARS LATE BUT I STILL MADE THE JOKE BABY
I have less storage than he has RAM
+HamishPlays Lmao
+Kirigaya Kazuto Yeah that website is great
Kirigaya Kazuto Thanks it works!
***** no prob man
+Perry McGlashan i am toxic i should kms
This was very useful, as I am currently looking into building a new rig for video creation, editing, 3d content creation, and gaming. Planning to start out with 16 gigs of ram, and within a month or two, buy another 4x4 3200 to get me up to 32gigs.
Nice seeing you here SAGE.
(SAVE) :p
You over here?
I literally just watched your Kip drone thingy video.. Hello!
Dax Nagtegaal Howdy!
Love your videos.
RAM DISK! I get over 16GB/s read/write speeds on my RAM drive. Might as well be instantaneous.
Yeah you can write to all of my computer’s memory in a second
How much deditated WAM do I need to wun a minecwaft sewver?
The Dudeprime 0.5
The Dudeprime superkai64 is dat u?
The Dudeprime what is the weccomended amount of dedotaded WAM ago run a minecwaft serwver
Depends on how many creepers lol just kidding please don't make a Minecraft server. The world will spontaneously combust and destroys every form of life in the universe except Steve and then he will start his own species and then start the universe again but everything will be square. Yes, I am Vsauce
I dedicate about 2.4 terabytes, but that's just me.
Can anyone tell me where I can download DDR5 RAM, I just got the DDR3 but my webcam keeps lighting on by itself.
xD
It's not out yet met. There's a couple of sites that have DDR4 though the download speed is pretty slow. Try Google?
depends how much dedotated wam you want.
You need AT LEAST 7 proxies if you want to download DDR5. Otherwise it'll just redirect you to some site about lemons.
GamintotheMAXwithmax Excuse me? Ummmm dedodaded waaaam, oh RAM.
When I got a computer with 16GB ram I thought I would never use it all, then I started writing music on FL studio with a TON of VST orchestra plugins running (like 15-20 loaded at a single time) I have never maxed my ram out but I have gotten close at 12GB used, Next PC I will be at least doubling the amount of ram.
95TurboSol Yup, music production is a different thing. People even have multiple machines networked so they can use today's big instrument libraries. And ProTools users have a benefit of loading an entire project into RAM, so yeah, 16GB is a minimum today I'd say.
ovo nisamja Wow, never heard of networked computers to do that, I don't think I will ever have that epic of a setup but I will definitely be getting more ram at least.
+95TurboSol You only need that much RAM for FL, if you're using sample libraries, like you said. If you don't use insanely large libraries, 8-16 is just fine.
I plan on using no libraries at all. I went for an over-powered CPU over a ton of RAM, as I prefer to use synths and large EQ chains.
Extensis Yeah I write a lot of orchestra so I'm screwed in the ram department :(
95TurboSol :(
Minimum 4gb
Standard 8gb
Recommended 16gb
Edit: (for gaming)
i'm making games and 32 is recommended for nice graphics games
32 rec xd u nubz 32 for pro or rich
32gb is fine for creating games but peeps that only want to play games rarely need more than 8gb, higher end gamers would benefit from 16gb though imo
+Hex Bug 32gb is fairly cheap. around $120 or so..
cheap xddd
You need at least 16GB to play Minsweeper on Windows 7 properly. Less than that, it'll lag onerously.
and u need 2 TB RAM to run minecraft
Mouldy CPU and we need 50TB of RAM to run Call of duty and Battlefield
Or 1PB of RAM to run Crysis
and 61CB for gta 5
8gb is fine you can always download more later anyways ;)
Louis Zava XD
You can’t download more ram it is a physical hardware not a software it is not a bunch of 1 and 0 it is a stick
tuan vu oh dang really, that would have made a good joke tho.
tuan vu r/woosh
@@MrBimchim r/woosh
Laughing at the people that use more than 10-20 tabs at one time. Even at 20 tabs you lose track of what the tab is and says.
I memorize where they are. I use my memory to remember so I can remember what I did with my memory.
Too bad some of us have triple monitor setups you pleb.
***** i have 60 tabs in 3 windows and i sure need them all
LinusTechTips ***** Doesn't matter if you have 100 monitors, what could you possibly use 50+ tabs for? Like I said, at 20 tabs you're going to stop being able to keep track.
hehe well i have 16gb so i have plenty to spare :) and im not really using the ram for much else anyways
Ill make this simple.
Web Browsing = 4GB
Gaming = 8GB-16GB
Video Editing, Normal Rendering = 32GB
Heavy Video Editing, Heavy Rendering = 64GB
Anything above = 128GB
moron
*****
That's some pretty light web browsing! How many tabs? Like 3? Open up 100 tabs and you'll be using around 20GB.
Nothinglastsforever that is why you need chromium
john li You mean Chrome, right? I already use that. What's the difference in compiling using the Chromium build?
***** And this is why "knowing how to build a gaming computer" does not qualify you to be a Systems Engineer.
I have a software that enables me to download ram
GeorgeRen Yes i can, I have 2TB RAM as we speak, my web browsing is so smooth now.
Storage is not the same as RAM.
+Paianni he HAS 2tb of ram，just go to downloadmoreram.com to get more
addison kwong Correct
***** yep my gramp once told me some 20 yrs ago that this awesome website allowed him to increase his ram capacity from 128kb to a whopping 16GBs
i can't wait until i can get a pc with 1024 gb of ram
+The British Dude WIL DOAT RUN MOANCRAFT!?
+Sean-Paul Higgins
moancraft sounds like a porn game
but can it run crysis?
+NoobaGutt no. no machine known to man can run that.
+The British Dude xD the serverpark of my university has this much ram... yet it lags like hell as the virtual machines bring the system down for lack of ram lol
More is not equal to better. I am reading all of your comments and I think a lot of you are confused on what RAM is for. CPU and Motherboard are the primary components that are going to throttle your performance. RAM is more of an accessory, though a needed one, you can have all the RAM in the world but if it has shit latency its going to throttle you anyways. For gaming your going to be utilizing the the graphic card, specifically designed (GDDR SDRAM), gaming memory way more then the on-board RAM. With music programs you are going to use your CPU to hammer out the calculations more then you need a place to store information which RAM is for. Im not saying you are not going to need a bit of it to get the job done without timing issues but its mainly riding on the CPUs ability to crunch the calculations and get them off the RAM then storing them and waiting for you CPU to deal with them.
When I was a kid, I found it was best to look at it like the computer was functioning as a cubical. I know its rudimentary but it helped me learn the basics of what was going on. You have your "Worker" who is the CPU or Processor, the "Desk" which is the RAM or Memory and the "Filing Cabinet" which is the hard drive. The faster the "Worker" can do his job the faster he can clear the "Desk". The more RAM the bigger the "Desk" he works at and the "filing cabinet" is permanent storage that can be pulled from and stored to for long term where the RAM is a temporary, but more quickly accessible location (The reason solidstate HDs have a faster read/right is they are essentially based on RAM). More RAM is a bigger "Desk" for storing files being worked on. That doesn't make the worker work faster and it takes longer for him to hammer out the tasks before he can move in more data.
Basically what it comes down to is everything has a cap and not one component can work at its cap if other things are under-speced to its counterparts. Its always going to bottle neck at its slowest component. That is almost always the Motherboard or CPU. Not saying more RAM cant help in some cases but in most it is a insufficient CPU and though it is a more expensive upgrade you will see a WAY larger performance increase VS the upgrading of RAM.
Hope that helps alot of your confusion. If your going to upgrade talk to a professional, and I am not talking about a salesman.
Take Care and Good Luck!
+David Schroeder That's a really good way to put it. I have never herd it put that way but it make sense. Thanks.
+Freddie Forskin Lol, Your welcome. It worked for me. Like I said I was a kid, about 8 when I built my first PC. My dad was a Electrical Engineer and explained it to me that way. I went on to become a Computer Repair Tech pretty young and got my BS in IT back in 2001. I don't do it anymore though because innovation is out the window in the fields. Techs are underpaid and professionals replace instead of fix now days. I should have became a Software or Electrical Engineer. Lol.
+David Schroeder Enough of RAM is enough, too much RAM is waste of money and resources. If your computer doesn't have enough RAM, then it cannot show its full potential :)
Possible. Though very rarely the case. RAM doesn't use resources other than power. It gives resources. Full potential isn't anything you can get out of the box even with overclocked or high performance products.
Yeah but a wider desk allows to have instant access to all the stuff one often use rather than having to search for (and then store) it in the much slower "desk". E.g. my browser's profile or NAS logs are all in tmpfs (RAMdisk for all Windows® dudes here).
Beside this you're making a point here. Nice to share your smart kid way of better understanding!
Also Keep in mind of multitasking. I use a vm (virtual machine) for school and having 16gb of ram is necessary for 3 or more VM running. Running more than one demanding task is more realistic than only running a single program. If you have the cash, i say get 16gb. Its always nice to have your computer running smoothly while your busy working on stuff, but getting 8gb is just fine, like linus said.
With all the problems with memory leaks in chrome right now, I'd say about 128GB
xD so true
The .Reaper Me and firefox just don't get along.
The .Reaper They don't respect user feedback or user opinion (the dev team were caught mocking the users of /r/firefox in their IRC channel upon the release of Australis), so they can go fuck themselves. Australis is a joke and a pathetic copy of Chrome. They no longer have any identity. They still haven't implemented Electrolysis (process per tab model already in use in Chrome and hell even IE had it first). Oh, I could go on.
Nothinglastsforever Maybe I should cut the middle man and use chromium. But then I'd be missing some stellar features added by google. It's a shame, really. Chrome has RAM problems, IE is... IE. Firefox has some layout and design choices that I really don't like, that I feel are really inconvenient. And I'm not planning on switching to opera or safari any time soon.
NaiOni Yep! Chrome has _serious_ RAM leakage problems that they're too lazy to address because it likely only exhibits itself in ~1-5% of heavy power users. Most users with 1-5 tabs open would never notice it.
Just download RAM.
Are u stupid?
That made my year
oops my bad :vv sry
Kuba Nguyen are you stubid booy ? bisch du dumm
Kuba Nguyen duh what's a joke? I don't get it whats the point duh i have a big ole stick in my butt
I love this guy! Lots of energy; Lots of (useful) updates.
In this video, I especially enjoyed seeing the graphs. The visual helped me a lot.
who else read the comments the whole time?
Lol me
LOL me but I'm on mobile so I can watch the video and read comments
NotaHipster me too
whole time no, sometimes yes. Not every video attracted my attention, mostly is interesting in general, that's why I subscribed this channel.
Lol me
I have used a max of 14 GB in my projects, at 16 GB myself, I rarely ever go above 12.
BUT PROTO! How would you ever use 14gb of RAM? I have never gotten close to using 6. I also have used 140 gb of storage at most.
Dolpgin
Editing
Video editing gets you above 10. I used to have 8 ram, a nightmare for video editing, wouldnt recommend
The way graphs and the graphics around them move around is fantastic. Very pleasing presentation.
things that never get enough ram
after effects
zbrush
unity3d
substance painter
chrome
+CariagaXIII what about maya and ue4?
sounds about right
+CariagaXIII
As I hold Unity for the day when I start taking the solo game developer path, I am concerned if 16 GB is enough to handle such work, with CPU and GPU to match. Once I have a proper resource pool, I may as well have my first custom PC designed to have one-man game development as the performance max, not gaming.
I doubt that doing 3D modeling in a 4GB i5 laptop with HD 4000 would do proper treatment, not to mention not having a reliable resource pool, so dabbling in that path is not the right time.
lightmapping and rebuilding is the only thing that takes so much ram in unity3d if you can afford an ssd it will help rebuilding of large projects. but for anything cpu makes the biggest difference heck save up for an xeon 12-24core cpu StarACE112
i have a 5820k i think its a great cheap alternative
I had no idea 16GB sticks existed....
+Tigranes Gryphen www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct4k32g4lfq4213
+Tigranes Gryphen I have a 16 GB stick....( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+y altschuler lol
32Gb ecc sticks exist
+Tigranes Gryphen i can show u my 16gb stick if u curious ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Man the info your provide is more often than not, something that you cant find anywhere else. Thanks for it and keep up the great work.
Kingston HyperX Fury DDR3 memory 16GB @ 1600 MHz here (4 x 4GB). I'll upgrade in a couple of years to DDR4. :)
And upgrade your motherboard and CPU as well.
Yeap. :)
If the gtx 970 performs better than a 780ti (in most cases) and is at the same price as a gtx 770 (when they game out), I believe that is a greasy price to performance card.
The .Reaper You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, or you are an ignorant fanboy. (AMD Card user here so i am not defending Nvidia solely for fanboy purposes)
HowDoULikeMyName the 970 does not perform better than the 780ti, the 980 is just about on par with the 780 ti but not the 970
What is the wecomended amount of datated wam I should have to server
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TheCoasterCompleater XD
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I always come to this channel for info on stuff and leave with knowledge but with added confusion.
Thanks for these videos, I've really learned a lot about computers since I started watching your channel. Keep up the great work Linus, and crew. :D
i need 32GB!! when im editing certain videos that call for me to throw on the warp stabilizer effect on every clip in the sequence i usually monitor the RAM usage and Premiere uses 29GB out of the 32GB installed!
Who said you don't
this was a brilliant video. i usually watch your videos to find ways to describe common computer terminology to customers, but this was a refreshing change of pace, restoring in me my love for processes
Just download moar RAM. I downloaded 662TB of DDR87 RAM which saved me enough money to buy a RAM so I could ram a Ram.
AXP Bonecrusher is this meant to get more likes?
my computer has a laughable 234 megabytes of RAM
well atleast theres someone worse than mine> 2gb of RAM
Xp
let me guess you were reanimated from cryo just lately
You might want to upgrade
The fuck is your PC running? MS-DOS?
640K ought to be enough for anybody.
R3lay XD your serious (please... just no)
yeah, i have 4 gigs and i think is too much for me.
minimal = 2gb
standart = 8gb
gaming = 16gb
gaming/workstation = 32gb
workstation = 64gb
server = 128gb or beyond
These guys get a ton of pc hardware like leafs.
I barely have 16 ram 2 970 gyx 4gb 1 tb ssd evo. i7-5500k 4.2 ghz
This is like gum for them, and ive worked so hard for this ;-;
+Kevin Castro Casanova LOL had to comment on this... you "barely have etc. etc." 1 TB SSD is already beast and expensive right there.. glad you [edit typo] managed to achieve it i'm thinking of upgrading to a 250GB SSD haha
I really love to watch your older videos! They are still awesome! Actually I have learned the most about computers while watching your videos. Thank you and keep it up!
Do I see a Moto 360 review in the future?
Yup!
LTT: not compatible with ios 0/10
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Man, if you guys ever need to use graphs and stuff again keep getting Edzel to do it. That shit was smoother than silk. Also, I always a cringe when Linus does the whole "oh and you should remember to subscribe because of this and that" at the beginning. It feels so incredibly forced. It's not that it's at the start of the video that bothers me it's the execution. Luke does it very well and it feels very natural. I'm just trying to give some constructive criticism, if it sounds like I'm hatin' I'm sorry.
MrThreeWorlds Yay!
How did they dovthe slides
Tristen Hogue I did it in After Effects.
Thank you Edzel Yago! I agree! You should definetly keep doing those! It looks so good:)
Edzel Yago The graphs themselves, I assume they were made in excel. But what was the process for bringing that graph in? Exported via PDF into AE?
In music production it's common to hook up slave computers in order to actually get beyond 128GB, to deal with the many different plugins loaded and the large amount of samples being played at the same time. I would love to see a similar run through in that environment!
haha oh god, crunchyroll
we've officially hit the sponsor deepend
Lol I can't stop laughing
I luld as well.
Whats wrong with da animes bruh?
ZettabyteGamer Crunchyroll has garbage selection for anime and intrusive ads everywhere.
Solkia2010 It has a great selection for current shows, no ads with premium and you support the industry, what more can you ask for?
4:31 Micky Mouse?
Loving the clean, properly labelled graphs and all! And the validity of this test as well :)
Linus, why in the heck are your hands YELLOW? O_O
Ture. But let me rephrase the question. ...
Linus, why in the heck are your hands YELLOWER than usual. :P
It looks like they used some kind of filter.
On my TV (which I use as main monitor...) he (and several other people) get lots of red areas on their skin.. And it's not an old TV..
Linus has a lady's hands
zZViperBoostingZz Yes, I realized that when I connected it :P A proper monitor is planned, but they cost a bit. Still, calibrating helps a little. Just have to actually do that :P
Crunchyroll is pretty much an USA only site. Otherwise the customer support pretty much ignores you, even when you're trying to give them money. I used to use CR, but I've long since moved onto a different site. The one I'm on has no regional locks, and no ads(in the video. There are some on the page, but that's fixed with an adblock).
Aussie here, I've used it a bit (until less than a month ago I was on ADSL1) and have many friends who have used it *extensively*. Very few have complained of 'content not available in your region' messages, So I guess for once we're not getting screwed over.
Well, that's a plus I guess.
Nope. Animetako.com
+Ginko Kobayashi I'm in South Africa and never had region issues with Crunchyroll. It's an awesome site.
jpchevron Either Africa has the rights, or you're using a VPN.
I'm not even in to PC bits that much, but have enjoyed watching an informed presentation with an enthusiastic speaker. That and i like RAM
I've been using crunchyroll for about two and a half years now, and I HIGHLY recommend it to anybody that wants to watch anime, legally. They have an incredibly vast selection of anime - that expands rather constantly, often adding in older anime, and the best part of it, in my opinion, is it is legal, and supports the industry.
It's not gonna be your end-all be all. Sometimes Netflix will have something Crunchyroll has, and sometimes you'll end up joining Luffy for an adventure. But it's pretty damn good, at least.
Yaaay now I can watch agk legally!
I've been using crunchyroll since my first year in college back in 2005! Great website, and the best thing about it is free members can still watch every episode except for the latest one! You only need a premium membership if you dont want to be a week late on episodes basically.
Nemo Nekoi Sometimes. Sometimes not. Don't believe they have any movies.
You'd have to go elsewhere for those. But CR offers a *lot* of anime, at a good price, and it supports the industry.
John Joseph Labrier I've been member of CR since Jun 13, 2010 ^_^, that's 4 years and 5 months.
Anyway.. what I wanted to say is actually if you use free membership you not only can only watch last episode a week later, but you can also only watch 480p and full with ads. (the ads issue can be worked around with an adblocker, but it's a shame for no 720p or even 1080p.)
LinusTechTips Woot, really happy you chose Crunchyroll as a sponsor, though I doubt you'll see this, in case you do I just want to ask (if you can tell) if it was you/your team or Crunchyroll that contacted you with this sponsorship ^_^
"supports the industry" not really. The same goes for other streaming services like Spotify. The creaters get near to nothing off your subscription payments.
Nice use of Sway and ripple transitions. It felt very material-designey.
badp Awesome! That's what I was going for!
Edzel Yago Actually after spending a little time with Sway, I realized that it *wasn't* exactly Sway they were using. But I suppose the idea is similar.
It looks great, I'll be looking forward to more of it! :D
Edzel Yago The animations were great Edzel, and on the topic of the animations, this is just a general idea for a video, and something I would like to see. I am wondering if at some point you guys could do a video on your workflow in how you create these videos. Videos on not only how they are filmed, but also editing and how you go about your daily LTT tasks would be awesome to see!
Hyperthreading is not an extra core, it actually just allows one to utilize the unutilized parts of the processor at the same time. So if your program does a bunch of divisions having a hyper thread will also allow you to use the adder at the same time.
What scrubs, I have 4TB of Ram.
Scrubs.
No, you don't.
Pshhhhh. I have that much in my fridge. 50 Exabytes is the way to go.
Fuck off.
you must have downloaded a lot of ram
IdioticAussie I download ram to mine bitcoins faster.
i've been using crunchyroll for about a year now, and would highly recommend it to any anime lovers :D
Lëon what?
Lëon and what is said reason
Lëon good luck with trolling other people
Love CR :D
Rikudou Sennin Premium user right here!!!
Just wondering if you guys shoot movies and other projects. seems like a RED is overkill for TH-cam tech videos.
Linus, I love the cool graphs and transitions that were used in the video. Reminded me of Google's new design philosophy "material design". Seemed really friendly and fluid. Also speaking of material design, any plans to do a review of the newly released nexus devices(6, 9, and android TV)?
Anyways, great video, really useful information :-)
yeah the graphs look better than usual
Beebskadoo B I've been reading up and familiarizing myself with the Material Design guidelines and it seemed like a good time to try it out.
Edzel Yago it looks great :-)
I'd say atleast 8 gigs of ram for gaming at the very least
+Gimme Them Beans Why is gaming always the standard? Most computer owners are not gamers.
Jason C. I realize that but most people that are going to use the computer for work the on board stock ram is enough.
Gimme Them Beans Still does not address why you made gaming the standard.
Jason C. Why is it that big of a deal all I stated was "
I'd say atleast 8 gigs of ram for gaming at the very least"
Jason C. Also, A large chunk of PC users are gamers and most people who frequent this channel are gamers due to the graphics card reviews and generally the awesome gaming things and technologies that affect gamers so your "why is gaming always the standard" doesn't really apply to most of the people in the comments.
Thanks for this video. I been facing this question a lot when i go to get a new computer or been faced with this question when people come to me for advice. I always told them that between 8-16 gigs should be enough unless you are doing more intensive work. However, this video really helps better explain how much ram you really need in relation to the average workload one places on the machine.
I am not sure but a subtle green color is visible on his face and hands. Or maybe I am way to tired from work. :)
Lol I see it too
Green screen?
ur fukin right!!
Hes a raging alcoholic who has jaundiced skin due to liver damage.
*starts talking about RAM*
*proceeds to talk about anime*
Our saviour has come.
here’s what i found as a full time shooter editor... threadripper 1950x 1080ti 128gb ram 4 gtech 10tb thunderbolt 3 drives and i can have my three main apps open premiere, photoshop and resolve // and cut, colour correct, pull stills and render at the same time and the system stays responsive, allowing for spotify, dropbox uploads/downloads and Prime Minister’s question time on youtube! 😉 conclusion - for each app you don’t need much - but to run them together, at the same time as leaving your system open to run additional apps - for me - is priceless! ps. you can’t put a price on seeing a client’s face as you colour grade the clip you just cut in real-time - that makes my day.
that moment when.. random crunchyroll ad appears..
I think 16GB-32GB is enough for me
8GB for budget gamers
Good for you. Have a cookie.
Hem you dont need 16gb-32gb ram you only trow your money
What?
Everyday, I use at least 13 gigabytes of RAM with Google Chrome and games.
I _need_ it.
Shawn Nobert Well, I'm someone who uses thing's like skype in the background and that can be abit of a setback. I would rather have 16GB over 8GB just to be safe.
For that yea but I was thinking for play game you dont need more than 8 gb but 16 gb for you its okey but not 32 gb its more than overkill
This may be a dumb question as Techsmith says "4 GB RAM minimum (Recommended: 8 GB or more)" the "8 GB or more" leaves you open to wondering why is it when I edit a video over 6 minutes long on a system with Windows 7, 16 GB DDR 4 all SSD, R9 390 GPU with 8 GB DDR5 and an I7 5820K, it begins to get sluggish and actually crash at times?
Do you have a video testing Camtasia or "CamCrashia" as some call it?
I just now got his Holy Balls shirt.
The amount you want is the amount you need
7:05 12 cores better than 8 core for AE?
Just download more RAM!
FuturisticGaming dont feed the trolllllssssssssssss ;)
Omg you r suuuu smrtt
FuturisticGaming itsajoke.jpg
FluffyPenguinEmpire iknow.exe has stopped working due to RAM error
8 - 16gb is the butter zone imo, other than that its waaay overkill
Then again they just talked about rendering in 4K etc. Its not really a usual thing to do, but more is better for it as far as I see.
yea only for 4k rendering ,other than that 16gb - 8 gb all the way. its waste of money if you dont do 4k render or heavy video editing and have more than 16 gb
ichi tensho Theres also server people, Ive run some for private steam servers etc, it helped having more.
ichi tensho Try heavy browser usage ~100 tabs. >16 GB no longer becomes overkill.
then again i was talking about normal use...thats just lmao
Thank you! I work with Photoshop. Camera's are getting better and image sizes are growing. 8 gig ram looked good.
I run my i5 4690k with 16 gb of ram, I can't see myself using more than that
+Sofa King Same
+Sofa King I have 22. Why? because salvaging broken pcs XD
+Seraphim Eter I love using Salvaged parts. My Windows 8.1 hard drive is a 9 year old Seagate Barracuda 75 GB 7200 RPM drive. Have two of those and a 1TB drive i bought new. I maintain the drives regularly, which is probably why they're still kicking :D
+Sofa King 16 Gb = 2 GB :P :P :P
+OLEK OLEK 1000 yeeeah...no. Try playing gta 5 with 2gb of ram. Pretty impossible
I am going to put 32 GB of RAM in my next PC.
Make sure it's comparable with your motherboard and cpu and don't make the mistake that I did :) (I bought 64gb of ram but my cpu only supported 32gb)
+AgarBola - compatible*
I am going to use 32GB with my motherboard. I currently have 16 GB and that works okay
This is very helpful for me. I like to know what to recommend for everyone's individual needs when they ask " *how* *much* RAM *do* *i* *really* *need* ?"
so this is immensely *helpful* even though *i* *dont* make use of video/photo editing software.
Please don't laugh but I just have 4 gab ram on 2016 same on me
me too
that's the standard. No shame
same here for my laptop but I just ordered a 4 gb ddr3 so i can have 8gb, finally, my shame will be gone XD
I'll get a crucial 8gig stick of RAM soon
Eh
you can always upgrade when you need to, it ain't that bad.
Right now for gaming, 8GB is absolutely required bare minimum. 16GB is the sweet spot, to be able to run anything well, and still have some left over for disk cache to speed loading further. 32GB is the "overkill, but still nice if you run a lot of things at once". Anything more than 32GB at this point is pointless even taking OS disk cache into account, unless you are running some sort of specialty applications that need that much.
Really liked the concept of graphs and charts to show what's effective with giving reasons why
i will mash the subscribe button twice
Some Patli But I was subscribed to begin with
you can just download more anyways
Vepokk
Yea, you can definitely download better hardware.
Cornelius McMuffin r/wooosh
Question!!
(On Average)
How big/large were the photoshop save files you benched with and their resolution?
I'm happy with my Intel i5, GeForce 920M and 12 gb of RAM.
My Gaming Computer Has 364GB OF RAM
Yup the damn thing flies XD
Monkeyd Chunk yea right. pics or its not right. one does not simply use 364 (i am not even sure your O.S. can handle that much) gb of ram unless you are running a crazy ass server
I edit alot, and i host alot of servers on like 20 computers
***** ikr. anything above 64 is pretty much useless on a gaming rig
Musa.Joker Anything above 16 is useless unless for whatever fucked up reason your playing 6 games at once. I've never even seen bf4 go over 4 gigs for me.
Watching these kinds of videos is probably what makes me a nerd... I love it :P
i have 2gb ram xD
I have 16gb
I have 4x4 16 DDR4
yeah joke with me :(
+Maksim hs $GB DDR3 133 MHz here (CL 7-7-7-14)
No its litle higher on MHz
is 512 of ram good i have a hp shit box with a intel core 2 duo pls i need to play gta 5. but i have no grafix card. :(((
512 mb of ram is shit
Yocool13's Channel i even have a laptop with 256 mb ram WAHT ABOUT THAT!!
Wow dood that like... higher than 255
LOL ima play csgo now. ON my GTX 970 INTEL 5920k i7 32 gb ram 2400 mhz thats my bosses PC btw i work at a PC Dev center but most of the computers we have are intel iop331 platform soo windows wont work on it that well but it has i think 32 cores and 120 gb ram and over 12200 gb of data space. ANYWAY nice talkin
lmao this kid
Thank you for making something pertinent to content creators!
8gb shoukd be the minimum and 16 should be the max
Nah, i have a workstation with 20 and can use up most of it editing 4k videos.
yeah i kinda am, I'm 14. Limiting it by standards is just flat out stupid.
I see what you mean. Who cares if the computers are limited? The only thing that comes out is negatives. People will buy motherboards with more ram slots rather than less. Think it out buddy.
Yeah, thats why prebuilt pc's dint come with it dumbass.
Cookieop 16 should still be great
Dedotated Wamm.
What is so interesting about this video is that it answered precisely what I wanted to know. I wanted to know if a RAM disk benefited the user, when allocated as a scratch disk.
00:40 the more is better philosophy. I'm a big believer in it.
Is there a hub or something to make it so that I can fit 2 RAM sticks in one slot? Thanks!
What?! How was that a joke?
Oliver Leopold Pretty sure he thought it was a dumb question. Short answer is, no, there's not. I admit, it'd be cool if there was.
Someone needs to invent it. I think that would do amazingly!
Yeah, true! If there was a way around that, though...
Oliver Leopold you would need to work with both DARPA and windows to create a female to male or male to female converter or adapter. Lol go to school.
Great video for general and Adobe hardware questions for sure - many I've dealt with as well.
did you reboot your system between each testing? since the operating system would cache(that is, temporarily store) the file on the ram once it is read, so there would be no difference between using ramdisk/hdd if you don't reboot.
LinusTechTips keep in mind that u can mount ram via tmpfs on linux, for software developers this means that you can reduce buildtime from 2 min to 3 seconds, which is a huge impact
I love these videos teaching the difference between awesome and overkill. Definite like.
And now my dad has 12GB RAM in a laptop for going on the internet...
Great video! Now I know that my current RAM configuration is more than sufficient for the kind of work I'm doing.
I just want to say, dem graph opening animations were sexy AF. Great job on the visual effects! ;)
Wouldn't a video card affect rendering time more than cpu or ram as far as video editing is concerned?
Good presentation and report 👍
7:05 why would you expect a linear trend? You are measuring the time to render which is inversely proportional to CPU speed?
Holy fuck Edzel's paper is great.
What about for audio/music production what would you recommend (im running with 2gb)
Dj SoundKiller 4 Gb is enough for Reason 5. I used it with 2 Gb DDR2, and i hardly got any lag. (used a lot of VST in a project, along with many sample)
8 Gb is the top you'll need.
What about cpu, btw im using fl studio 12 2gb ram amd e -350 processor 1.60 ghz
i had a core 2 duo 2,2 Ghz