Not all the assets used for this reenactment are 100% historical. Intruders are represented here by A-6A instead of A-6E and the insignia isn't accurate. MiG-25 is a mod of the 'P' variant. It borrows some elements from other modules in DCS World (for example, it uses F-15's radar display and RWR sounds). And USS Saratoga is actually USS Forrestal. These are not mistakes but approximations without which reenactments such as this one wouldn't be possible, so there's no need to comment on them and 'spot the errors'. I also apologize for the picture quality which sometimes gets heavily compressed. That's the YT compression algorithm which really hates night footage. That's why strong camera shake effect was applied along with film grain to reduce the consequences. Historically, the first night of Desert Storm was moonless and it was much darker than in the video, but I set it to full moon along with heavy gamma correction. The first upload looked much worse 😁 Thank you for your understanding!
@@ondrejdobrota7344 From what i've read about it he ejected but his death is a bit of a mystery. He either died due to injuries sustained during the ejection or exposure.
Ironically,I just spoke with a friend of mine who was an A-6 B/N off of Saratoga. VFA-81 was led by Cdr.Spock Anderson and VFA-83 was led by Cdr.Ripper Stumpf, later Blue Angels Squadron Leader. RIP Spike!!
The MiG-25 proved to be the aircraft that gave the coalition the most work in the January 1991 war. It shot down an F/A-18 and almost managed to take away the F-15's invincibility in another dogfight, in addition to being the aircraft with the lowest casualty rate on the Iraqi side unless I was mistaken. However, it is important to point out that the Iraqi MiG-25s avoided fighting with the F-14s as much as possible due to the AIM-54. A weapon that the USAF Eagles did not possess was still dependent on the problematic AIM-7 Sparrow.
@@showtime112 indeed they were (probably followed by Mirage F1 pilots) but surprisingly enough the most decorated ones were actually the Su-25 pilots (despite them coming into action at the last years of the Iraq-Iran war)
I don't know what you mean by a MIG-25 "almost managed to take away the F-15's invincibility in another dogfight". The MIG-25 wasn't designed for dogfighting or to be a fighter. It was designed to be an interceptor. It was designed for speed, not for maneuverability.
@@showtime112 this is true from what i have read aswell , on top of the fact the iraqi's had gci equipment making it even more potent and in its environment . once again thanks for the vid love the MiG content!!
@@showtime112 Same tactics as the NVAF MiG21 units (if they could get away with it); vectored for one pass, fire missiles then get the hell out of there.
The fighter controller prevented him from shooting because he thought it was a MiG-29. This is the video link of Pilot Daoud in Arabic, with automatic translation.th-cam.com/video/CAR9hfv1Zuc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PohVwabVvK5X0UE7
What an action packed episode! I never knew about this incident since none of the books I owned about the 1991 Gulf War mentioned it. Thanks for sharing this story.
You have to tip your hat to the Iraqi pilots, going up against vastly superior aircraft (perhaps 0.5 to 1 generation more advanced and with a numerical disadvantage.
This was a great idea for a video! I never would have thought to make a reenactment about the only Iraqi Aerial Victory in the Gulf War. It is very sad that an American pilot died but still worth mentioning because it is a historical fact and does show that the Iraqi Air Force was experienced, competent and were not pushovers unlike many have come to believe. If you chose to continue making videos about the Gulf War a great idea would be the dogfight of Capt. Anthony “E.T.” Murphy who shot down two Iraqi SU-22 fighters in Desert Storm. I would very much like to see this if it is possible. Have you ever thought of interviews? They would make the videos more historic and gain views or ever more patreons for your channel. Remember, your objective is to make the videos just like the Dogfights series from the History Channel. That is what you're doing: gaining experience and perfecting your knowledge and skills with each video you post. Keep up the good work!
the mig 25 seems to be the only aircraft with some successes against 4th gen American jets ! perhaps a combination of powerful radar /high speed mig 31 might do well too ...against f-16 do not know if we will find out ... your scenarios give me material to recreate them in( strike fighter 2 modded using mission editor ) (that is when i get the time...!!! )
In this case, it was probably a combination of a powerful radar, speed and ineffective AWACS control on the Coalition side. I hope you enjoy the scenarios 😁
Great video with cool graphics. I watched it on my mobile phone, will give it a go on my monitor later in the evening with the room lights turned off. 😉 Cheers! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🍻🍻🙋🏼♂️
He had no seat separation and his parachute didn't deploy. He body was underneath the canopy sticking out the ground like a tombstone. They couldn't find him for years before revisiting the crash site and started digging. There they found him.
There was an F 15 that seen the fox bat going by and acquired a lock for a missile shot, but he was denied permission to take the shot by the people in charge in the AWACS !
In an air operation the sheer size of desert storm, something like this was inevitable. The blame does largely rest on the AWACS not providing adequate warning or engagement permission.
To this day, I have never seen a single source to solidy clarify if the mig was ahead or behind the F-18. All the reports seens to contradict each other.
While it's not clearly defined, to me it seems more logical that it was a stern attack. Dawoud flew south, fought Spock Anderson for a while, flew over his wingman and proceeded east. While this was happening, the Hornet formation continued north so, Dawoud was probably behind Speicher.
That the F-14 didn't have IFF is astonishing to me. Hopefully the USAF learned something from that incident and will get that radome spinning before they enter a combat zone. I guess the new E7 Wedgetail wouldn't even need to spin a radome. I think NATO bought some but I don't know about the USAF. Kudo's to that Iraqi pilot. To come up alone against a whole American strike group is very brave. In air to air combat the kill ratio was 35 to 1. Then we also killed 243 on the ground and they flew 122 to Iran which I never understood. Did they think Iran would give them back?
I think all Tomcats were Navy. At least that's what Google tells me. It is still very surprising that they didn't have IFF running. It's not like the US Navy and Air Force are at logger heads like the Japanese were in WW2.
Tomcat had IFF but no Non-Cooperative Target Recognition systems. Navy was really focused on operating as a carrier group, and not so much on joint operations with other services. If something is approaching our carrier and it didn't take off from it, it must be the enemy 😁 I remember being terribly puzzled when they started reporting on airplane defections to Iran. They must have expected them back because losing them to Coalition bombs seems less bad than giving them to someone you fought until yesterday. And you might fight again tomorrow.
th-cam.com/video/CAR9hfv1Zuc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PohVwabVvK5X0UE7This is a link to the video clip of the Iraqi pilot. It is an audio interview in which he explains the story of the downing of the F18 plane, in addition to his biography as a pilot on the MiG-25 plane. The video is in Arabic, but there is automatic translation for the video.
The exact cause of death hasn't been officially determined. He either died of the injuries, or was executed after landing. Rescue attempt would have only been launched if his exact position was known, i.e. if he survived and had a working radio to contact someone. Otherwise, launching a CSAR in such proximity of Baghdad without having any idea of Speicher's location would have been a dangerous waste of resources.
One punch landing before a knockout blow doesnt make you a winner by any means. Only reason we didnt score a 100+ A2A kills was because they fled after they realized they were all going to die if they didnt
No one here is claiming the Iraqis won, so don't get your panties in a twist. War is war, and this counts as an aerial victory. Not sure what this man's death in combat has to do with you writing an egoistic comment about undertakings that you never undertook yourself. Both men served their countries honorably, one perished in doing so and luckily his remains were recovered.
@@UCUuBKhtCp18o0XNJBaip-4wWhat a loser. These kinds of propaganda parrots exist on reddit too. This video is about a real event and nobody is claiming anything. But oh no, they must talk about how the US is better than everyone else. They ridicule and hate on the serbs when the F-117 shootdown is mentioned as well. “Raaaahhh usa number one 🤡” Go back to your basement bro. People actually want to discuss and appreciate some history. Nobody cares about who won or lost what. War is hell and you’re a moron if you glorify it. Yeah the U.S. spends the most on military and so usually has the best equipment but you can’t eat an F-22 when you’re homeless and broke. There are no social benefits/healthcare cuz U.S. spends all the money on weapons xD.
Nope. Two pilots are credited with downing 2 US combat aircraft (helicopters) in 1994. USAF F-15s from Bitburg AB downed 2 US Army H-60 Blackhawk helicopters over SE Turkey. Friendly fire still counts as a kill.
Don’t be pretentious. When we talk about pilots downing other pilots, friendly fire is almost never, if ever, included. Friendly fire incidents are its own category
I think Dawoud was proficient with his aircraft and he had the guts to face the odds. But had AWACS controllers done their job well, he would have likely been shot down by Spock Anderson. But Iraqis returned the favor just minutes later 😁
Get out of here if youre butthurt. He bested him and that's it. Would it have been fhe other way round, so be it. Dale zelko and zoltan dani are friends despite one downing the other in his F-117.
Some Iraqi pilots were exceptionally talented but the fact that saddam regime was never interested in modernising the tech like most Ba’ath regime was their undoing
‘It took a decade before the reality emerged’ there you go, the American propaganda, they won’t admit being hunted by an Iraqi excellent pilote. Captain America, a joke.
Not all the assets used for this reenactment are 100% historical. Intruders are represented here by A-6A instead of A-6E and the insignia isn't accurate. MiG-25 is a mod of the 'P' variant. It borrows some elements from other modules in DCS World (for example, it uses F-15's radar display and RWR sounds). And USS Saratoga is actually USS Forrestal. These are not mistakes but approximations without which reenactments such as this one wouldn't be possible, so there's no need to comment on them and 'spot the errors'.
I also apologize for the picture quality which sometimes gets heavily compressed. That's the YT compression algorithm which really hates night footage. That's why strong camera shake effect was applied along with film grain to reduce the consequences. Historically, the first night of Desert Storm was moonless and it was much darker than in the video, but I set it to full moon along with heavy gamma correction. The first upload looked much worse 😁
Thank you for your understanding!
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1965 war
So Spiker ejected but parachute did not open or what?
@@ondrejdobrota7344 From what i've read about it he ejected but his death is a bit of a mystery. He either died due to injuries sustained during the ejection or exposure.
@@gamingtrashcan9030 Spoiler alert, there might be some elements of it very soon.
Ironically,I just spoke with a friend of mine who was an A-6 B/N off of Saratoga. VFA-81 was led by Cdr.Spock Anderson and VFA-83 was led by Cdr.Ripper Stumpf, later Blue Angels Squadron Leader. RIP Spike!!
The MiG-25 proved to be the aircraft that gave the coalition the most work in the January 1991 war. It shot down an F/A-18 and almost managed to take away the F-15's invincibility in another dogfight, in addition to being the aircraft with the lowest casualty rate on the Iraqi side unless I was mistaken. However, it is important to point out that the Iraqi MiG-25s avoided fighting with the F-14s as much as possible due to the AIM-54. A weapon that the USAF Eagles did not possess was still dependent on the problematic AIM-7 Sparrow.
As I commented elsewhere, the best Iraqi pilots were apparently in MiG-25 squadrons. This apparently showed.
@@showtime112 indeed they were (probably followed by Mirage F1 pilots) but surprisingly enough the most decorated ones were actually the Su-25 pilots (despite them coming into action at the last years of the Iraq-Iran war)
@@showtime112 : Makes sense, since the MiG-25 was the hardest Iraqi aircraft to fly.
An F-16D bagged a Foxbat after the War . First time the AMRAAM was used in air combat ..
I don't know what you mean by a MIG-25 "almost managed to take away the F-15's invincibility in another dogfight". The MIG-25 wasn't designed for dogfighting or to be a fighter. It was designed to be an interceptor. It was designed for speed, not for maneuverability.
really good vid , enjoyed the reenactment on dcs aswell, the Foxbat was a force to be reckoned with but alot of people dont like to give it credit..
Thank you! The best Iraqi pilots were apparently assigned to MiG-25 squadrons so the airplane actually showed something.
@@showtime112 this is true from what i have read aswell , on top of the fact the iraqi's had gci equipment making it even more potent and in its environment . once again thanks for the vid love the MiG content!!
@@showtime112 Same tactics as the NVAF MiG21 units (if they could get away with it); vectored for one pass, fire missiles then get the hell out of there.
My last OIF deployment was at COB Speicher. Rest easy, Spike.
Great video as always. I never knew that Lt. Dawoud came very close to shooting down an A-6 Intruder as well
The fighter controller prevented him from shooting because he thought it was a MiG-29. This is the video link of Pilot Daoud in Arabic, with automatic translation.th-cam.com/video/CAR9hfv1Zuc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PohVwabVvK5X0UE7
Thank you very much! Yes, it could have been a very heavy blow to the USN formation.
- Has problems navigating home due to lack of fuel…..
-Has afterburner on the whole time….
That could have been a part of the problem 😁
Holy cow!! Never knew a foxbat took out the hornet in battle! 😮 thanks for the enlightenment mate
Thank you for watching!
They don’t believe the hornet ever saw the Mig25 or the missile it fired !
Eagles be like: I'm glad it was Hornet. That guy could have ruined my perfect record!
What an action packed episode! I never knew about this incident since none of the books I owned about the 1991 Gulf War mentioned it. Thanks for sharing this story.
Read my comment above.
Thank you! It took a while for the story to come to light. These battles (and especially the night ones) tend to be quite confusing.
You have to tip your hat to the Iraqi pilots, going up against vastly superior aircraft (perhaps 0.5 to 1 generation more advanced and with a numerical disadvantage.
It is true, they weren't cowards.
During OSW, we were briefed that Iraq put its most experienced pilots in the MiG-25. Certainly a dangerous foe.
i waited for this re-enactment for so long. thanks!
Thank you! The mod recently came out which enabled the control over the MiG-25 in DCS, that's what I was waiting for.
This was a great idea for a video! I never would have thought to make a reenactment about the only Iraqi Aerial Victory in the Gulf War.
It is very sad that an American pilot died but still worth mentioning because it is a historical fact and does show that the Iraqi Air Force was experienced, competent and were not pushovers unlike many have come to believe.
If you chose to continue making videos about the Gulf War a great idea would be the dogfight of Capt. Anthony “E.T.” Murphy who shot down two Iraqi SU-22 fighters in Desert Storm. I would very much like to see this if it is possible.
Have you ever thought of interviews? They would make the videos more historic and gain views or ever more patreons for your channel.
Remember, your objective is to make the videos just like the Dogfights series from the History Channel. That is what you're doing: gaining experience and perfecting your knowledge and skills with each video you post.
Keep up the good work!
Great video by show time 112 thank you so much for making all of this videos
Such a great channel, excellent storytelling and the recreations are just exceptional
I really appreciate such words of support, thank you!
You did not shoot down an American fighter till Saddam says you shot one down. lol
Rather ironic how US aerospace was changed so much in response to the Foxbat, and the most recent shootdown of a US aircraft ended up being from one
I see your point
Also somewhat emblematic of the changes the Foxbat motivated that it was the last one. Iirc the MiG-25 was also the first victim of an AMRAAM kill
@@atomf9143 Also was the first aircraft to shoot down a drone
Very good video. It was worth the wait 👏👏👏
I'm glad you think so, thank you!
the mig 25 seems to be the only aircraft with some successes against 4th gen American jets !
perhaps a combination of powerful radar /high speed
mig 31 might do well too ...against f-16
do not know if we will find out ...
your scenarios give me material to recreate them in( strike fighter 2 modded using mission editor ) (that is when i get the time...!!! )
In this case, it was probably a combination of a powerful radar, speed and ineffective AWACS control on the Coalition side. I hope you enjoy the scenarios 😁
awesome video as always dude
Haha it just started you haven't watched it yet How do you know it's awesome?
@@JSFGuyevery video this guy has made has been awesome it's reasonable to expect the latest one to be also haha it's really that simple haha
Thank you for the confidence 😊
That's quite a compliment, thank you so much! 😊
@@npickle54 You can't say something is that you haven't experienced that's all there is to it. You just had to say something apparently.
Great video again. Do we know for sure the serial number of the MiG-25? I've seen "25211" suggested, but is this written down or said anywhere?
Thank you very much! I can't remember seeing the specific serial number for the MiG.
The Foxbat is a beast.
Love your videos!!!😊
I'm glad to hear it, thank you!
Another excellent video 🫡
Thank you very much!
Great video with cool graphics. I watched it on my mobile phone, will give it a go on my monitor later in the evening with the room lights turned off. 😉
Cheers! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🍻🍻🙋🏼♂️
Thanks again! That's the best way to watch the video for sure 😁
Another great video ! Pilot skill is everything
Great story. The pilot's whereabouts were a deal. I read somewhere that he was even a POW. But another chapter of aerial warfare
He had no seat separation and his parachute didn't deploy. He body was underneath the canopy sticking out the ground like a tombstone. They couldn't find him for years before revisiting the crash site and started digging. There they found him.
He was from the same city as me (Kansas City , Mo) Speicher was KIA. His remains were found not till 2009 by US Marines .
The locals had buried him in the desert. There were rumors he was a POW and when Iraq was invaded, they made it a high priority to locate him.
AWESOME beginning AWESOME afterburner 😮
Thanks, I appreciate the support!
You never explained how Speicher was killed. You imply that he ejected safely.
I've heard about this before on another channel.
Must take some balls to take off on your own to go up against the US Navy and USAF.
we don't see this on history channel
They prefer reality shows 😁
Lol😂
The only guys podcast that gets off on downed American aircraft !
Yeah, and now we know that Hornet production is discontinued.
That's terrible for the hornet pilot. The mig should have not been allowed to get that close. What a screw up.
These battles are quite confusing but in this case, AWACS should have recognized it as hostile.
There was an F 15 that seen the fox bat going by and acquired a lock for a missile shot, but he was denied permission to take the shot by the people in charge in the AWACS !
Command got that man killed, Rest in Peace
In an air operation the sheer size of desert storm, something like this was inevitable. The blame does largely rest on the AWACS not providing adequate warning or engagement permission.
To this day, I have never seen a single source to solidy clarify if the mig was ahead or behind the F-18. All the reports seens to contradict each other.
While it's not clearly defined, to me it seems more logical that it was a stern attack. Dawoud flew south, fought Spock Anderson for a while, flew over his wingman and proceeded east. While this was happening, the Hornet formation continued north so, Dawoud was probably behind Speicher.
That the F-14 didn't have IFF is astonishing to me. Hopefully the USAF learned something from that incident and will get that radome spinning before they enter a combat zone. I guess the new E7 Wedgetail wouldn't even need to spin a radome. I think NATO bought some but I don't know about the USAF. Kudo's to that Iraqi pilot. To come up alone against a whole American strike group is very brave. In air to air combat the kill ratio was 35 to 1. Then we also killed 243 on the ground and they flew 122 to Iran which I never understood. Did they think Iran would give them back?
I think all Tomcats were Navy. At least that's what Google tells me. It is still very surprising that they didn't have IFF running. It's not like the US Navy and Air Force are at logger heads like the Japanese were in WW2.
Tomcat had IFF but no Non-Cooperative Target Recognition systems. Navy was really focused on operating as a carrier group, and not so much on joint operations with other services. If something is approaching our carrier and it didn't take off from it, it must be the enemy 😁
I remember being terribly puzzled when they started reporting on airplane defections to Iran. They must have expected them back because losing them to Coalition bombs seems less bad than giving them to someone you fought until yesterday. And you might fight again tomorrow.
Still we don't have Mig-25 in Warthunder sad reality 😢
th-cam.com/video/CAR9hfv1Zuc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PohVwabVvK5X0UE7This is a link to the video clip of the Iraqi pilot. It is an audio interview in which he explains the story of the downing of the F18 plane, in addition to his biography as a pilot on the MiG-25 plane. The video is in Arabic, but there is automatic translation for the video.
Interesting story!
Ty for your service speicher.
On collaborating on yet another US led regime change that caused thousand of innocents deaths? Nothing to thank about
Your videos are always so mischievous and entertaining! Thank you for your sense of humor and your ability to make our days brighter and more fun!🤣💖😝
Why couldnt they find the downed pilot? I mean, did he survive the missile?
😤💩At work. Cannot watch it until 20h😬
Poopytime
What about Scott spicheir?
Why did the American pilot died? How come no recuse effort were made? 😢
Read my comment above.
The exact cause of death hasn't been officially determined. He either died of the injuries, or was executed after landing. Rescue attempt would have only been launched if his exact position was known, i.e. if he survived and had a working radio to contact someone. Otherwise, launching a CSAR in such proximity of Baghdad without having any idea of Speicher's location would have been a dangerous waste of resources.
@@showtime112 He may have died from his wounds and was not executed because he fell in a remote desert area.
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MIG 25 OP
Dawoud = David
is this war thunder or DCS
This one is DCS
Thank you for your service Lt. Zuhair Dawoud, brave pilot.
Wonderful video as always 👍
Goddamn, the Iraqis are so indecisive and extremely lack of aggressive 😅
That 25 mod is kinda bad. Not even model is right variant.
It's not comparable to paid modules, or even to mods such as A-4E but it's still the best thing currently available.
I share your enthusiasm but...
bro really removed my comment 💀
YT bots are on the rampage. There are two comments here to which I can't reply. One of them is a guy who is always among the first to comment.
@@showtime112 oh ok no worries then my bad
After Vietnam, US only faced outdated, unprepared contendors. Easy, this way.
Outdated ?? The Iraqis had Mirages and MiG-29’s..and 5 months to prepare….give me a break 🙄
Thanks for covering this loss of life. It's a sad event indeed. Thanks for all you do! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🌻💮🌼🌸🏴☠️🏹
Thank you for not getting tired of commenting every time!
@showtime112 a comment for the algorithm and for you and the flight crew.
One punch landing before a knockout blow doesnt make you a winner by any means. Only reason we didnt score a 100+ A2A kills was because they fled after they realized they were all going to die if they didnt
No one here is claiming the Iraqis won, so don't get your panties in a twist. War is war, and this counts as an aerial victory. Not sure what this man's death in combat has to do with you writing an egoistic comment about undertakings that you never undertook yourself.
Both men served their countries honorably, one perished in doing so and luckily his remains were recovered.
@@UCUuBKhtCp18o0XNJBaip-4wWhat a loser. These kinds of propaganda parrots exist on reddit too. This video is about a real event and nobody is claiming anything. But oh no, they must talk about how the US is better than everyone else. They ridicule and hate on the serbs when the F-117 shootdown is mentioned as well. “Raaaahhh usa number one 🤡” Go back to your basement bro. People actually want to discuss and appreciate some history. Nobody cares about who won or lost what.
War is hell and you’re a moron if you glorify it. Yeah the U.S. spends the most on military and so usually has the best equipment but you can’t eat an F-22 when you’re homeless and broke. There are no social benefits/healthcare cuz U.S. spends all the money on weapons xD.
Nope. Two pilots are credited with downing 2 US combat aircraft (helicopters) in 1994. USAF F-15s from Bitburg AB downed 2 US Army H-60 Blackhawk helicopters over SE Turkey. Friendly fire still counts as a kill.
That's debatable 😁
Don’t be pretentious. When we talk about pilots downing other pilots, friendly fire is almost never, if ever, included. Friendly fire incidents are its own category
Luck, not any form of skill.
Isn't it funny how it's always "luck" when the US lose a jet in combat 🙄
first zbots now nato bots? thats crazy lmaoo keep coping bro it was clearly the pilots skills
I think Dawoud was proficient with his aircraft and he had the guts to face the odds. But had AWACS controllers done their job well, he would have likely been shot down by Spock Anderson. But Iraqis returned the favor just minutes later 😁
Get out of here if youre butthurt. He bested him and that's it. Would it have been fhe other way round, so be it.
Dale zelko and zoltan dani are friends despite one downing the other in his F-117.
Extremely lucky..
Some Iraqi pilots were exceptionally talented but the fact that saddam regime was never interested in modernising the tech like most Ba’ath regime was their undoing
‘It took a decade before the reality emerged’ there you go, the American propaganda, they won’t admit being hunted by an Iraqi excellent pilote.
Captain America, a joke.
Your videos always stand out for their quality and originality. Thank you for your contribution!👆🦍💌
Thank you for your positive comment!