Another amazing piece of history about the air war over the Middle East that I barely know. Thanks for yet another exciting video about this interesting aircraft.
Great story. I worked at Raytheon in Andover MA where they built the Hawk and Patriot. The Hawk was still in production then. I also remember when Victor Blenko stole a Mig-25 and landed in Japan. Interesting times. I didn't know they made and recon version of the Mig-25. That the Russians flew them themselves is certainly SOP for them.
MiG-25 was made into quite different interesting variants, not only photographic recon but also bomber, SLAR, ELINT and SEAD as well, each with their own designation. The high altitude performance of the airframe made it a very good platform for these other roles besides interception.
I'm happy you appreciate this story as well. That sounds like an interesting company to work in (at least from an outside perspective, it could have been terrible 😁).
@@robrob9050your long and terse comment got unceremoniously deleted man? Just because YTurds had decided to suck up their true master order.. Fyi, i cannot read your comments to mine in normal thread mode.. Only in the highlighted one.. It happened to me too.. Countless of times
The Foxbat may have been limited outside of being an outstanding high speed bomber interceptor and reconnaissance platform, but in those rolls. It works very well. Now if only someone could make the MiG-25PD for DCS...
Oh yes, that would be awesome. Some people suggest that there should be another FC3 series of modules for DCS with models which can't be done in high-fidelity for some reason. It might cover Russian planes such as the Foxbat. I think it would improve the sim greatly.
@showtime112 Lots of people don't want more FC3 style planes though. Which I think is unfortunate if that path looks to be the only avaliable route to getting more RedFor planes for DCS.
During the 1971/72 deployment, a MiG-25 was tracked at Mach 3.2 over the Sinai. However, apparently this caused the engines to overspeed and they had to be scrapped when they returned to base. Very interesting video. Thank you. ☮
Thank you for the comment! In some occasions, the Soviet MiG-25 pilots would increase the speed in order to avoid Israeli intercepts. It is possible that they sometimes exaggerated 😁
@@showtime112 I must thank you for confirming that IAF shot down one of those hyper vaunted Mig25 over the Bekaa Valley in 1981. I remembered it as in 1982.
Thanks for making this video I always wanther why no one made the video about MIG25 over Israel and Iran but you did and again thank you so much for making this great video
The War of Attrition is a project which I hope to complete some time in the future. It deserves to be covered, apart from the Soviet MiG-21s combat with the Israelis, the most part of it is not very well known.
I read something about an iraqui Mig-25 shooting down a US NAVY F/A-18 during the gulf war in 1991. The american pilot was Lt. Speicher and the iraqi pilot was Zuhair Dawood.
Interesting video... And it's also interesting to see how doctrine's changed over the years. How did they even imagine MiG-25 would be a fighter is beyond my comprehension?! 🤷🏼 Speed and high flying altitude are it's only strength... Thank you for this glimpse at the history! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🙋🏼♂️🍻🍻
Thanks again! It was a decent interceptor of high-flying bombers. But Arabs were probably a bit desperate because the Soviets had nothing to offer comparable to the US 4th gen fighters. So, they placed their hopes on the MiG-25.
Mig25 is the epitome of ‘boom and zoom’ plus as already stated, it’s original mission, (adopted by the later Mig 31), was area intercept, focussing on aircraft equally incapable of manoeuvring such as XB-70 Valkyries. Fox bats have a lot of real estate to look after and the high speed is as much to get to where they are needed, with short notice from GCI, and later AWACS.
Mig25 reconnaissance was in egypt and did reconnaissance over sinai where the f4 phantom couldnt intercept but soviets refused to give recon images ro egyptian , and wont even let egyptian get closer to bases where mig25 was based
@@Ramzi1944it’s a weird thing the Soviets had. If you noticed the Soviets utterly refused to sell advanced tech to most countries especially Arab states. Iraq could mig 25s after they were already fading out and even than they were given weaker monkey models with poor training as to not give away Soviet secrets. Same came with Egypt. They didn’t want to Egyptians to get compromised and reveal advanced Soviet tech. Then there’s the issue of Soviet tech just being inferior as the mig 21 kept getting clapped in dog fights and when the Russians accused of the Egyptians of being bad pilots and instead took to the skies themselves, they do got clapped by Israeli pilots
The sources I found say that images of Israeli positions were given to the Egyptians (because there wouldn't be much point in taking them) but Soviets indeed didn't let them get anywhere near the MiG-25s.
hello, big fan of this video and the foxbat but theres just one thing , the picture displayed at 2:00 is illegitimate , the foxbat is photoshopped out of the original color picture and not flying over Egypt , i do not know the exact location but based off other similar liveries ive seen it was most likely flying in east germany, if u want i can send the exact photo to clear things up.👍
Thank you for the comment! I'll have to trust my instincts, something felt a bit odd about that photo but i just ignored it 😁 I recorded some footage of a MiG-25 over Egypt which was supposed to go there (and it probably should have).
I remember, when I was a kid, someone offered me a 1/48 MiG-25 (I think it was a Revell kit but not sure). The model looked huge, but, God, to me, the Foxbat seemed like a horrible plane ! I never assembled one again after that! 😖
As usual, another excellent and well researched video on military aviation history. Keep up the great work! And thanks gor posting your sources as well.
Thank you for the feedback! As for the sources, I believe it's best being transparent. I don't claim this events happened 100% exactly like this, but sources describe them that way.
@@showtime112 Thanks for the quick reply and your honest answer. I've been watching your videos for a long time and I've always appreciated your efforts to be accurate but also your honesty about when accounts differ. You always appear objective and fair in your assessments and that adds to the quality of your videos. Keep up the great work.
Another great video about the conflicts in the Middle East. Thank you! Out of curiosity, do you know if the MiG-25P was even in Soviet service by 1971? I can't find a source with a more precise date, but I had thought they weren't around until 1972/1973 but if you have more info, I'd appreciate it. That said, perhaps the Soviets were hesitant to give the Egyptians the MiG-25P before it even entered service.
Thank you! As far as I could determine, both versions of MiG-25 were still in the testing phase when they were sent to Egypt. It looks like it was testing under combat conditions (kinda like Su-25 later in Afghanistan)
Thanks! Yes, there are plenty of scenarios to be done there. One in particular is the aerial operations in Afghanistan between the Soviet retreat and the American arrival. But I'm waiting for the whole map to be complete for that one.
As a member of the Soviet military mission in Egypt recalled, Israeli intelligence had its agents among the Egyptian personnel of the base. As a result, the flights of the Mig-25 were not entirely a surprise to the Israelis. Therefore, the Russians decided to use a trick. They did not report the flight, but the "engine test" suddenly turned into a flight. And at that moment one could get the impression that the entire Egyptian personnel had to call someone
The sources I found also mention that Israelis knew a lot about the Soviet MiG-25 operations. Apparently, Egyptian officers were not very careful about giving away information.
You forgot to mention the 'Foxbat' over the Sinai in the engagement of May 16th, 1972 accelerated to Mach 3.2 to escape the Israeli Phantoms, melting its engines in the process.
Syria used the Export model of the Mig25 with downgraded avionics and radar. Iraq had the full up modernized soviet version later in the 80s and it did decently in the gulf war considering the odds.
One interesting fact is that in the Iraqi Air Force, the best pilots flew MiG-25s. You'd say it was the MiG-29 which was their most advanced fighter but no.
Add breaks are much further apart than one minute. Precisely, about five They are in fact much rarer than TH-cam suggests. As for the subtitles, I'm not sure what bothers you but if they bother you, you can turn them off literally with one click.
@@showtime112 I believe this changes in regard to where you watch from. Diferent countries get diferent treatment, regardless of how you set it yourself. But, I could be wrong...
@@PappaBear_yt I don't think so. The creator can place mid-roll ads within the video. If there's no ad booked to match the specific viewer at that time, the ad won't be played but I believe YT won't increase their number.
So why is the AIM-7 Sparrow doing so well in Israeli hands against such a difficult target as the Mig-25? We have all read that the AIM-7 has a very low successful hit rate something like 10 % but here we have almost 60% in the described encounters.
First of all, Sparrow missile was continuously improved. F version was much better than the E model used in Vietnam (where the success rate was even lower than 10%). Second thing, you didn't count well 😁 In all these engagements, Israelis fired eight missiles resulting in three Foxbats shot down. That's 37,5 %. Sparrow could be quite accurate against non-maneuvering targets, especially in look-up. In Vietnam, they were often fired at maneuvering, small fighters, outside of parameters and multiple shots were standard practice.
Hymp. No match best be in perspective. An F15 is just another plane. The Foxbat is not a turn n burn frame like the Eagle AND Syrians are ill trained. Critical errors. But the ambush can work - just the Mig was too early.
The ambush could have worked, Syrian MiGs were able to surprise F-15s on at least one or two occasions. But ground control probably made some errors guiding the northern MiG.
The USSR intervention in Egypt in 70´s was very big, much more than in Syria now, around 25.000 soldiers, pilots advisers and more 200 of the VVS best planes, including the MiG-25 of course.. A superb book abot this is "The soviet-israeli war 1967-1973" of Isabella Ginor & Gideon Remez IF the rumors are true, Russia is ready to support Iran with Top of the line planes, SAMs and ECM against the Israel possible attack........Will see......
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Another amazing piece of history about the air war over the Middle East that I barely know. Thanks for yet another exciting video about this interesting aircraft.
Thank you for being here once again! These stories deserve more attention than they usually get.
Great story. I worked at Raytheon in Andover MA where they built the Hawk and Patriot. The Hawk was still in production then. I also remember when Victor Blenko stole a Mig-25 and landed in Japan. Interesting times. I didn't know they made and recon version of the Mig-25. That the Russians flew them themselves is certainly SOP for them.
*getting tired of this yt communism*
MiG-25 was made into quite different interesting variants, not only photographic recon but also bomber, SLAR, ELINT and SEAD as well, each with their own designation. The high altitude performance of the airframe made it a very good platform for these other roles besides interception.
I'm happy you appreciate this story as well. That sounds like an interesting company to work in (at least from an outside perspective, it could have been terrible 😁).
@@robrob9050your long and terse comment got unceremoniously deleted man?
Just because YTurds had decided to suck up their true master order..
Fyi, i cannot read your comments to mine in normal thread mode..
Only in the highlighted one..
It happened to me too.. Countless of times
@@dieterhrabak4947 Yeah man, got narcisstic injury 😂 Obviously this commie wanna be yt bot is very strict..
Yet another great video. An example of just how entertaining and informative, well produced videos of this kind can be. Keep up your excellent work.
Thank you very much! This is a very inspirative comment!
Great story. All these little events made aerial warfare history a fascinating thing
I absolutely agree with you, thanks!
The Foxbat may have been limited outside of being an outstanding high speed bomber interceptor and reconnaissance platform, but in those rolls. It works very well.
Now if only someone could make the MiG-25PD for DCS...
Oh yes, that would be awesome. Some people suggest that there should be another FC3 series of modules for DCS with models which can't be done in high-fidelity for some reason. It might cover Russian planes such as the Foxbat. I think it would improve the sim greatly.
@showtime112 Lots of people don't want more FC3 style planes though. Which I think is unfortunate if that path looks to be the only avaliable route to getting more RedFor planes for DCS.
Another great video! 👍
Hvala!
Great video! I like how your meld the history with the DCS.
Thank you very much! DCS and other sims are not specifically made for this purpose but they can be quite useful.
I remember the Clint Eastwood film called Firefox back in 1982, which was referring to this Soviet fighter.
I saw that movie on opening day! The theater was pretty empty, lol.
Mig31 firefox
No it was actually referring to Mig 31
@@srijanme the plane in the movie didn't look in any way to a Mig31. The point was a Soviet fighter with enchanced abilities.
@@yja496 Originally it was suppose to look like 31 but they went futuristic.
During the 1971/72 deployment, a MiG-25 was tracked at Mach 3.2 over the Sinai.
However, apparently this caused the engines to overspeed and they had to be scrapped when they returned to base.
Very interesting video.
Thank you.
☮
The plane which engines are own fuel.
Thank you for the comment! In some occasions, the Soviet MiG-25 pilots would increase the speed in order to avoid Israeli intercepts. It is possible that they sometimes exaggerated 😁
@@showtime112
The X-15 had to reach Mach 7
to achieve such a feat.
@@showtime112
I must thank you for confirming that
IAF shot down one of those hyper vaunted
Mig25 over the Bekaa Valley in 1981.
I remembered it as in 1982.
Thank you sir.
Thank you for being here!
Awesome video as always!
Thank you very much!
Thanks for making this video I always wanther why no one made the video about MIG25 over Israel and Iran but you did and again thank you so much for making this great video
Thank you for appreciating it! I agree this is a very interesting story and someone needed to cover it.
Thanks!
Thanks for the donation once again!
When it runs away from you and you are in an F-4 you know it's fast!
Exactly 😁
Great video, thanks 😊
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Nice work! 👍
Thanks Chups!
based, glad you’re doing a series on the ‘War of Attrition’, alot of interesting air engagements took place during that time.
The War of Attrition is a project which I hope to complete some time in the future. It deserves to be covered, apart from the Soviet MiG-21s combat with the Israelis, the most part of it is not very well known.
Amazing as always!!!!!
Thank you very much for the positive comment!
@@showtime112 My pleasure!!!!
I read something about an iraqui Mig-25 shooting down a US NAVY F/A-18 during the gulf war in 1991. The american pilot was Lt. Speicher and the iraqi pilot was Zuhair Dawood.
Yes, this is the only case after Vietnam in which the USA officially admits losing a combat aircraft to an enemy fighter.
@@showtime112 Yes. The keyword is "officially admits"! 😉
Interesting video... And it's also interesting to see how doctrine's changed over the years. How did they even imagine MiG-25 would be a fighter is beyond my comprehension?! 🤷🏼 Speed and high flying altitude are it's only strength...
Thank you for this glimpse at the history! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🙋🏼♂️🍻🍻
They had to have sumding to show for
before the A-12
Thanks again! It was a decent interceptor of high-flying bombers. But Arabs were probably a bit desperate because the Soviets had nothing to offer comparable to the US 4th gen fighters. So, they placed their hopes on the MiG-25.
Mig25 is the epitome of ‘boom and zoom’ plus as already stated, it’s original mission, (adopted by the later Mig 31), was area intercept, focussing on aircraft equally incapable of manoeuvring such as XB-70 Valkyries. Fox bats have a lot of real estate to look after and the high speed is as much to get to where they are needed, with short notice from GCI, and later AWACS.
Mig25 reconnaissance was in egypt and did reconnaissance over sinai where the f4 phantom couldnt intercept but soviets refused to give recon images ro egyptian , and wont even let egyptian get closer to bases where mig25 was based
Why did they refuse to give the recon images to Egypt?
@@Ramzi1944it’s a weird thing the Soviets had. If you noticed the Soviets utterly refused to sell advanced tech to most countries especially Arab states. Iraq could mig 25s after they were already fading out and even than they were given weaker monkey models with poor training as to not give away Soviet secrets. Same came with Egypt. They didn’t want to Egyptians to get compromised and reveal advanced Soviet tech. Then there’s the issue of Soviet tech just being inferior as the mig 21 kept getting clapped in dog fights and when the Russians accused of the Egyptians of being bad pilots and instead took to the skies themselves, they do got clapped by Israeli pilots
The sources I found say that images of Israeli positions were given to the Egyptians (because there wouldn't be much point in taking them) but Soviets indeed didn't let them get anywhere near the MiG-25s.
@@showtime112 Thank you for the clarification
hello, big fan of this video and the foxbat but theres just one thing , the picture displayed at 2:00 is illegitimate , the foxbat is photoshopped out of the original color picture and not flying over Egypt , i do not know the exact location but based off other similar liveries ive seen it was most likely flying in east germany, if u want i can send the exact photo to clear things up.👍
Thank you for the comment! I'll have to trust my instincts, something felt a bit odd about that photo but i just ignored it 😁 I recorded some footage of a MiG-25 over Egypt which was supposed to go there (and it probably should have).
@@showtime112 no worries ! they did a really good job with the photoshop lol , again good vid hope to see more about the foxbat and or foxhound!
Good stuff thank you
Thank you for the comment!
Highly interesting story - thanks!
I'm happy to hear you liked it, thank you!
Cool reconstruction! "Sparrow" missile is very good, but only in close combat. The F-15s were lucky, because MiG-25 could get away from them.
Thank you for the comment!
I remember, when I was a kid, someone offered me a 1/48 MiG-25 (I think it was a Revell kit but not sure). The model looked huge, but, God, to me, the Foxbat seemed like a horrible plane ! I never assembled one again after that! 😖
Thanks for sharing! 😁
As usual, another excellent and well researched video on military aviation history. Keep up the great work! And thanks gor posting your sources as well.
Thank you for the feedback! As for the sources, I believe it's best being transparent. I don't claim this events happened 100% exactly like this, but sources describe them that way.
@@showtime112 Thanks for the quick reply and your honest answer. I've been watching your videos for a long time and I've always appreciated your efforts to be accurate but also your honesty about when accounts differ. You always appear objective and fair in your assessments and that adds to the quality of your videos. Keep up the great work.
Another great video about the conflicts in the Middle East. Thank you! Out of curiosity, do you know if the MiG-25P was even in Soviet service by 1971? I can't find a source with a more precise date, but I had thought they weren't around until 1972/1973 but if you have more info, I'd appreciate it.
That said, perhaps the Soviets were hesitant to give the Egyptians the MiG-25P before it even entered service.
Thank you! As far as I could determine, both versions of MiG-25 were still in the testing phase when they were sent to Egypt. It looks like it was testing under combat conditions (kinda like Su-25 later in Afghanistan)
Interesting story! Can't wait to see what you can do in Afghanistan and Iraq DCS maps.
Thanks! Yes, there are plenty of scenarios to be done there. One in particular is the aerial operations in Afghanistan between the Soviet retreat and the American arrival. But I'm waiting for the whole map to be complete for that one.
@@showtime112 Have the Helion publishing book of that, "Wings over the Hindukush" very interesting subject.
As a member of the Soviet military mission in Egypt recalled, Israeli intelligence had its agents among the Egyptian personnel of the base. As a result, the flights of the Mig-25 were not entirely a surprise to the Israelis. Therefore, the Russians decided to use a trick. They did not report the flight, but the "engine test" suddenly turned into a flight. And at that moment one could get the impression that the entire Egyptian personnel had to call someone
The sources I found also mention that Israelis knew a lot about the Soviet MiG-25 operations. Apparently, Egyptian officers were not very careful about giving away information.
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Hvala!
Cool.
Thank you for the comment!
👍👍👍
I appreciate your comment!
Recon MiG-25s of IAF also flew over Pakistan with impunity for years
Yes, I think it was quite successful in the Indian service.
After all it's a man who is behind the machine
@@sunilnalawade6700 it was not just about pilot, the Pakistani unlike Israeli didn't get F-15 or high altitude capable SAMs at that time
You forgot to mention the 'Foxbat' over the Sinai in the engagement of May 16th, 1972 accelerated to Mach 3.2 to escape the Israeli Phantoms, melting its engines in the process.
I didn't forget it. The sources I found which describe the whole thing sometimes don't mention that story at all and some even question it.
The export versions were no match
Syria used the Export model of the Mig25 with downgraded avionics and radar.
Iraq had the full up modernized soviet version later in the 80s and it did decently in the gulf war considering the odds.
One interesting fact is that in the Iraqi Air Force, the best pilots flew MiG-25s. You'd say it was the MiG-29 which was their most advanced fighter but no.
A formidable fighter jet thr MiG-25. A lot better in performance than its amerikan counterparts.
Excellent 👌 presentation on the MiG 25 Foxbat. Thank you Dhowtime 112 for all you do! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇮🇱🇺🇦🔱🌻🌸💮🌼🏴☠️🏹
Thank you very much for always being here!
Não estamos conseguindo assistir teus vídeos por causa da quantidade de propagandas que cortam a todos minuto o vídeo e ainda retira a legenda. 👍🏽
Add breaks are much further apart than one minute. Precisely, about five They are in fact much rarer than TH-cam suggests. As for the subtitles, I'm not sure what bothers you but if they bother you, you can turn them off literally with one click.
@@showtime112 I believe this changes in regard to where you watch from. Diferent countries get diferent treatment, regardless of how you set it yourself.
But, I could be wrong...
@@PappaBear_yt I don't think so. The creator can place mid-roll ads within the video. If there's no ad booked to match the specific viewer at that time, the ad won't be played but I believe YT won't increase their number.
So why is the AIM-7 Sparrow doing so well in Israeli hands against such a difficult target as the Mig-25? We have all read that the AIM-7 has a very low successful hit rate something like 10 % but here we have almost 60% in the described encounters.
First of all, Sparrow missile was continuously improved. F version was much better than the E model used in Vietnam (where the success rate was even lower than 10%). Second thing, you didn't count well 😁 In all these engagements, Israelis fired eight missiles resulting in three Foxbats shot down. That's 37,5 %. Sparrow could be quite accurate against non-maneuvering targets, especially in look-up. In Vietnam, they were often fired at maneuvering, small fighters, outside of parameters and multiple shots were standard practice.
Hymp. No match best be in perspective. An F15 is just another plane.
The Foxbat is not a turn n burn frame like the Eagle AND Syrians are ill trained. Critical errors.
But the ambush can work - just the Mig was too early.
The ambush could have worked, Syrian MiGs were able to surprise F-15s on at least one or two occasions. But ground control probably made some errors guiding the northern MiG.
@@showtime112 I concur.
82ND
3 hours ago?? Hope you went to church!!
😁
Fuck yes
The USSR intervention in Egypt in 70´s was very big, much more than in Syria now, around 25.000 soldiers, pilots advisers and more 200 of the VVS best planes, including the MiG-25 of course..
A superb book abot this is "The soviet-israeli war 1967-1973" of Isabella Ginor & Gideon Remez
IF the rumors are true, Russia is ready to support Iran with Top of the line planes, SAMs and ECM against the Israel possible attack........Will see......
Thanks for the interesting recommendation. As for the present time.....it certainly seems like the history is repeating itself.
Toopppppppp
Hvala T!
Lovely 🇷🇺 fighter
Well, an Iraqi MiG-25 did manage to shoot down an American F/A-18. Confirmed by Americans, later on and unwillingly....
Israel and Arab wars always fighting a never ending war.
Forty year later, still not over.
9:20
Well, old Hafez had to invent sumding
goebbels style.
Not unlikely 😁
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Another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!