Julian Nicholson deadshot's zoning is not difficult to deal with esp people who spam... zoning deadshots are a different story but spammers are easy to deal with lol. u've just been playing noobs
"sonic is getting a taste of his own medicine" no hes not. Its called practice. hes learning how to beat that zoning with another character. he knows people will use deadshot thinking thats all they have to do in the tournament to win.
No this has to before he even started using deadshot. Sonic would already know the frame data and the block adv for all of deadshot moves. This match probably made him decide to use deadshot after honeybee showed how safe he is.
If anyone here is old enough in Street fighter 2 Turbo NES Sagot would spam the same he would throw fire at you then when you crouch down he would throw one low at you then when you jumped he would either have a uper cut to your face or a high knee very difficult to get around I do agree that they did a pretty bad job at Dead shot to make it so damm easy to win it's not like its one bullet it's 3 if not 5 and with damage over time when you use hero power
dude... r u really talking about Turbo Ed. Eye Patch being cheap lol.. No nonono NOOO, Rememberberry Champion Ed. Vega with his 4hit on block tick damage Psycho Crusher that better players, like me sometimes, would use as an opportunity to throw if u blocked it?? Now THAT was Pure..
Billy Badass its not that hes op imagine going against him without the meter burn roll compared to MKX and first injustice it helps get closer to your opponents but for me of course it will be hard im not as skilled as others lol
OR.. Bang out the game all together and not waist your time on some weak ass scrub using an easy made bullshit character for the no effort win.. Yea I think that sounds A LOT BETTER if u ask me
This is how y'all beat deadshot people, you play the game. Quit complaining and find ways around it. Every character has SOMETHING they can do to get past it. Blocking and crying about projectiles won't solve shit, you have to be active. This game rewards offense, so even if you can't get in, you get rewarded for TRYING with some meter that you can use to successfully get in. It's not hard.
Abdul Halim Then he'll end up becoming useless due to the nerf hammer and people will go on to complain to the next character that happens to rustle people's jimmies and then it becomes a cycle of shitting on characters. Then the game ends up becoming fucking boring. This is how these games die.
Abdul Halim Even if they nerf his recovery on his projectiles, the people complaining will still lose. Deathstroke got nerfed pretty hard and he still caused shit players problems.
As long as i don't have to spend half the match closing in on Deadshot just so i can get pushed back full screen, am happy. This Injustice for God's sake, not Metal Slug.
Notice what SonicFox did during the matches he won. A lot of good jump timings, meterburn rolls, and knowing what moves beat projectiles. Just about anyone makes Deadshot look stupid if you get in on him, even Captain Cold, who I would have thought was more of a zoner himself. He's still maybe a little too strong (I think he builds meter too fast), but you can still beat a brainless Deadshot.
lucas jose Same. Deathstroke was one of my favorites in Injustice 1 but he had such a bad rep in it, people online would leave in character select as soon as I picked him even though I actually knew combo's for him :/
That captain cold corner game though. Also that one corber deadshot combo was pretty sweet too. I think if they just tweaked deadshot's wake up move then he wouldn't be so oppresive to play against.
comments you can expect to see in an injustice 2 video with deadshot "more like spamshot" "Zoners among us" "is this the new call of duty" seriously people, zoning is a character archetype whether you like it or not and has and will always be in fighting games. You need to grow up and stop complaining like a bunch of crybabies
Trevor Foley Umm no people don't need to stop complaining. If I go to a fighting tournament and ALL I see is everyone go to a corner and spam projectiles. I just wouldn't go anymore and I wouldn't play fighting games if all I had to do was spam one command. No learn combos or get better just do the easy as fuck shoot commands. You can defend rapid projectile spam all you want but NO it wasn't always there and 2nd I wish you good fucking luck getting a new fighting game. People will get tired of that shit, the pro-scene will die off if that's ALL there is and when that happens so will the sells and so will the game.
so what exactly is the strategy with captain cold? keep your opponent in the corner and play the long game with tick damage? and you deal with zoners by meter burning the ice shield so that you can get them to flinch I imagine.
If such is the strategy of Sonicfox's Captain Cold, then in what is this a real problem if it is not the fact that “ _it is annoying to see_ ”? A “strategy” is before-all: _a plan of action designed to achieve has length-term gold overall aim_ . If it proves that this strategy is profitable for this last whatever it is the plan ; that he continues thus as long as that is beneficial for him as for others which also try to establish a strategy in order to achieve their aim, in this case, won.
Did you guys really settle on 3/3 just then? I know zoning matches aren't popular, but from a competitive standpoint; I'd definitely want to see more. If people are going to complain about it, might as well study up and find out how to take care of it.
Robb _ It does. Did you see the guy he was playing as? He's one of the best guys in the game. Not to mention perfect blocking. Don't assume that a game takes no skill because you're really good at it. It takes a lot of skill to have the right timing for some combos and moves.
Christian-Alexander Herrera and i do play at a competitive level , i can't do competitive play such as tournaments but i very much so have the skill to do so , im not a casual not to the slightest
Christian-Alexander Herrera uh no i never said that , i said he doesn't take skill to play which is why most casuals jump on him because he's a easy character to pick up
Man I wish they could make a fighting game without zoning. I'm not complaining about it, I just think it would encourage more people that are new and encounter play styles like deadshot. This might discourage them from buying and playing the game...
I understand zoning is a style, but does an attack like that really need that much damage and nockback on a block? you can't dodge a db3 except for maybe a few characters who can float, so why do you get punished for doing everything right?
i thik this match is probably from the first day, Sonic would of know all the questions he was asking . He would know how to defend agaisnt certain shit . Like that overhead deadshot does . N i just the online leaderboard, his profile level is 51
Deadshot is literally the reason I don't play ranked... I cans till beat him but it just isn't fun getting spammed by bullets until I get close enough to end his life. cowards man
What kills me are the times sonic complains captain is using a move to many times calling it "Annoying". And then the way sonic acts after a match likes he's actually done something astounding. I'm not saying he cant play he probably can but playing the way he does with deadshot is just boring. Its marvel vs Capcom chrisg all over again.
sora3823 All they do is put up pressure what. His mixups are crazy good and keep you guessing. You'll never know what's going to come your way if you play against a good one. He can setup even if you knock him down due to the great wakeup he has too. The block wasn't used this match but literally makes the map smaller or blocks projectiles for him. Perfect for anti Spamshot.
Christian basically a waste of meter. you could do the same amount of damage in a combo using 1/2 bars of meter that a super would do doing 4. plus injustice has air escapes,meter burn rolls and clash which all require meter
Deadshot is a long ranged character. So is Captain Cold, but not as effective in that regard. However, they both have only roll escapes to close the distance. As a result.... Well, you get the point.
Your actually ridiculous to be that good with Flash is insane only "difficult" character I'm decent with is Robin other than that I play pretty easy to pick up characters also great job on beating Fox
I find it sad that people think they can defend trash Deadshot players. It's not skill to stay full screen and go "Pew Pew" And people say there are ways around it. There are ways around it, but it's so easy to get back to full screen that it's just boring fighting against Deadshots who don't do cool stuff. Deadshot can do cool stuff. People only really run to him if they want a scummy win. Like this guy "SONIC! HEY SONIC! I BEAT YOU" yeah you did. Ya remember how? "PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW" Deadshot 101. That's not it though. People bought this game for like $60 or over so they can full screen spam with Deadshot, Ivy, Darkseid, Superman, Supergirl, Aquaman. I think I can continue, but that would just be sad.
the new cod looks awesome
Best comment on TH-cam bro
Aaron Moore man you're edgy.
Aaron Moore Where did the comment touch you boy?
Aaron Moore dude calm down
d3stime077 I KNOW RIGHT
this game is called injustice for some reason...
1 year later, but yes, lol
dont know any combos with deadshot but im 15 and 0 in ranked with him
Julian Nicholson deadshot's zoning is not difficult to deal with esp people who spam... zoning deadshots are a different story but spammers are easy to deal with lol. u've just been playing noobs
Julian Nicholson cause your playing against trash
like a boss sky but im trash too yet they have to outplay me so hard to win
Julian Nicholson yeah, deadshots easy to use and hard to counter unless you know what your doing
fate is a way better zoner than deadshot (in my opinion) his moves are just so much faster
"sonic is getting a taste of his own medicine"
no hes not. Its called practice. hes learning how to beat that zoning with another character. he knows people will use deadshot thinking thats all they have to do in the tournament to win.
he already beat the shit out of them , the only deadshot that can win again sonic fox are Scar, and hony bee
im talking about the big tournaments. ESL. next month. i think
Raren0ise AND he still won in the end 😂
No this has to before he even started using deadshot. Sonic would already know the frame data and the block adv for all of deadshot moves. This match probably made him decide to use deadshot after honeybee showed how safe he is.
Kiều Sơn Sonic Fox beat the fuck out of scar, shut up
Y'all don't see sonic bitching , you see him jumping over , ducking , and most importantly using meter burn roll. Take notes.
captain cold looks pretty dope
If anyone here is old enough in Street fighter 2 Turbo NES
Sagot would spam the same he would throw fire at you then when you crouch down he would throw one low at you then when you jumped he would either have a uper cut to your face or a high knee very difficult to get around
I do agree that they did a pretty bad job at Dead shot to make it so damm easy to win it's not like its one bullet it's 3 if not 5 and with damage over time when you use hero power
dude... r u really talking about Turbo Ed. Eye Patch being cheap lol.. No nonono NOOO, Rememberberry Champion Ed. Vega with his 4hit on block tick damage Psycho Crusher that better players, like me sometimes, would use as an opportunity to throw if u blocked it?? Now THAT was Pure..
this is fuckin hilarious lmao "HOLD THAT!"
6:02 "thats pretty annoying"
look at what hes doing lol
exactly
its sad because most characters can't fight him right now... Not until he's Nerfed.
Billy Badass its not that hes op imagine going against him without the meter burn roll compared to MKX and first injustice it helps get closer to your opponents but for me of course it will be hard im not as skilled as others lol
Anubis Reborn MKX has a run mechanic and back dashing drains stamina meter, yea if deadshot was in MKX he wouldn't really be a problem.
Lol sonic getting his own medicine
Kalvin nguyen That's just the way deadshot is played
To be honest, I saw HoneyBee playing Deadshot before Sonic.
+zeke zameron Or play for fun without crying like a little bitch
OR.. Bang out the game all together and not waist your time on some weak ass scrub using an easy made bullshit character for the no effort win.. Yea I think that sounds A LOT BETTER if u ask me
and Y not?? I use a fightstick for this game..
This is how y'all beat deadshot people, you play the game. Quit complaining and find ways around it. Every character has SOMETHING they can do to get past it. Blocking and crying about projectiles won't solve shit, you have to be active. This game rewards offense, so even if you can't get in, you get rewarded for TRYING with some meter that you can use to successfully get in. It's not hard.
Actually complaining will do a lot of shit. NRS will nerf him and no one will have to deal with Spamshot.
Abdul Halim Then he'll end up becoming useless due to the nerf hammer and people will go on to complain to the next character that happens to rustle people's jimmies and then it becomes a cycle of shitting on characters. Then the game ends up becoming fucking boring. This is how these games die.
Carter Harris no, thats how spammers die
Abdul Halim Even if they nerf his recovery on his projectiles, the people complaining will still lose. Deathstroke got nerfed pretty hard and he still caused shit players problems.
As long as i don't have to spend half the match closing in on Deadshot just so i can get pushed back full screen, am happy. This Injustice for God's sake, not Metal Slug.
Low-high mixup into flipkick which pushes them damn near full-screen, then the fun begins!
Notice what SonicFox did during the matches he won. A lot of good jump timings, meterburn rolls, and knowing what moves beat projectiles. Just about anyone makes Deadshot look stupid if you get in on him, even Captain Cold, who I would have thought was more of a zoner himself. He's still maybe a little too strong (I think he builds meter too fast), but you can still beat a brainless Deadshot.
holy early im shit
Dr.Science you dont know meh
+Aimless Yes we do shithead
Billy Badass then what is my name
I see you're stupid too.. figures
Billy Badass i just asked what my name is.. and your not answaering
Deadshot is good, okay, but i really miss Slade. :/
lucas jose *"you're getting annoying!"*
lucas jose Same. Deathstroke was one of my favorites in Injustice 1 but he had such a bad rep in it, people online would leave in character select as soon as I picked him even though I actually knew combo's for him :/
That captain cold corner game though. Also that one corber deadshot combo was pretty sweet too. I think if they just tweaked deadshot's wake up move then he wouldn't be so oppresive to play against.
comments you can expect to see in an injustice 2 video with deadshot
"more like spamshot"
"Zoners among us"
"is this the new call of duty"
seriously people, zoning is a character archetype whether you like it or not and has and will always be in fighting games. You need to grow up and stop complaining like a bunch of crybabies
Trevor Foley thank you
Trevor Foley Umm no people don't need to stop complaining. If I go to a fighting tournament and ALL I see is everyone go to a corner and spam projectiles. I just wouldn't go anymore and I wouldn't play fighting games if all I had to do was spam one command. No learn combos or get better just do the easy as fuck shoot commands.
You can defend rapid projectile spam all you want but NO it wasn't always there and 2nd I wish you good fucking luck getting a new fighting game. People will get tired of that shit, the pro-scene will die off if that's ALL there is and when that happens so will the sells and so will the game.
Trevor Foley at least someone with common sense
Trevor Foley the problem is he is TOO good at zoning
Joe Hughes yeah his zoning is really good. It's just people need to learn the difference between good zoning and mindless spamming
This video seems to be before Sonic even picked up deadshot
Deadshot's zoning is meddlesome indeed, however, a skilled Superman can silence him. I speak from experience.
so what exactly is the strategy with captain cold? keep your opponent in the corner and play the long game with tick damage? and you deal with zoners by meter burning the ice shield so that you can get them to flinch I imagine.
If such is the strategy of Sonicfox's Captain Cold, then in what is this a real problem if it is not the fact that “ _it is annoying to see_ ”? A “strategy” is before-all: _a plan of action designed to achieve has length-term gold overall aim_ .
If it proves that this strategy is profitable for this last whatever it is the plan ; that he continues thus as long as that is beneficial for him as for others which also try to establish a strategy in order to achieve their aim, in this case, won.
dude, are you the reincarnation of Sun Tzu or something?
Tombocartoons
I think he got this whole speech on strategy from one of Core-A Gaming's video. I highly recommend him.
Did you guys really settle on 3/3 just then? I know zoning matches aren't popular, but from a competitive standpoint; I'd definitely want to see more. If people are going to complain about it, might as well study up and find out how to take care of it.
this has to have been ages ago, sonic plays deadshot but in this he is asking how negative B1 is....
Matthehuman yea has to be way before he played deadshot he didn't know his attacks and like you said asking stuff like that
New call of duty ww2 gameplay
TVsonicboom Still takes more skill then hit and goku *cough* *cough*
Robb _ xeno verse doesn't take skill in general
TVsonicboom
Then you don't play xenoverse seriously
original....
Robb _
It does. Did you see the guy he was playing as? He's one of the best guys in the game. Not to mention perfect blocking. Don't assume that a game takes no skill because you're really good at it. It takes a lot of skill to have the right timing for some combos and moves.
Nice matches and uploads :D
Damn! When did Metal Slug 8 come out? The graphics look awesome.
"Yeah i'm proud of this Injustice 2 deadshot kid"- Deathstroke
So this is what made sonic start using deadshot.
I'm holding it, but what do I do now Honey?
How do people have fun playing deadshot? he takes little to no skill to play
zeke zameron im not a casual lol i destroy deadshots , I was generally just asking how people have fun playing dead shot .
zeke zameron and still, zoning isn't hard
Christian-Alexander Herrera I never said i had a problem playing dead shot though?
Christian-Alexander Herrera and i do play at a competitive level , i can't do competitive play such as tournaments but i very much so have the skill to do so , im not a casual not to the slightest
Christian-Alexander Herrera uh no i never said that , i said he doesn't take skill to play which is why most casuals jump on him because he's a easy character to pick up
I love watching these matches holy shit!
Injustice 2 Ultimate Edition when is the sale coming out?
deadshot in a nutshell: at a distance he is deadly but up close...he's dead
8:00 that combo was insane!!!
Man I wish they could make a fighting game without zoning. I'm not complaining about it, I just think it would encourage more people that are new and encounter play styles like deadshot. This might discourage them from buying and playing the game...
I understand zoning is a style, but does an attack like that really need that much damage and nockback on a block? you can't dodge a db3 except for maybe a few characters who can float, so why do you get punished for doing everything right?
i thik this match is probably from the first day, Sonic would of know all the questions he was asking . He would know how to defend agaisnt certain shit . Like that overhead deadshot does . N i just the online leaderboard, his profile level is 51
Darkseids teleport works wonders against deadshot you just have to get the timing rightand stomp on his head lol
Why don't Captain Cold players charge up their trait to the max? His projectiles become much better.
I need to get proper good at this game so I can rapid spam out videos like you. I love this game
Deadshot is literally the reason I don't play ranked... I cans till beat him but it just isn't fun getting spammed by bullets until I get close enough to end his life. cowards man
Do you guys play with sticks or pads?
8:06 that reset was looking nice
What kills me are the times sonic complains captain is using a move to many times calling it "Annoying". And then the way sonic acts after a match likes he's actually done something astounding. I'm not saying he cant play he probably can but playing the way he does with deadshot is just boring. Its marvel vs Capcom chrisg all over again.
Miki Damess 😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh sonic is captain cold in this dumbass
I give Honeybee credit because he's the only one sporting the Flash. No other player plays my boy like he does!
I really wanna use Captain Cold but none of his moves look like they can put pressure on an opponent. And his moves don't look all that powerful
sora3823 All they do is put up pressure what. His mixups are crazy good and keep you guessing. You'll never know what's going to come your way if you play against a good one. He can setup even if you knock him down due to the great wakeup he has too. The block wasn't used this match but literally makes the map smaller or blocks projectiles for him. Perfect for anti Spamshot.
wow that's the first time i've seen professional competitors actually use a supermove
Sol Da Silva I guess you've never seen a kitana player in MKX like Dragon
Sol Da Silva why don't they do it more often? (I'm new to this game)
Christian basically a waste of meter. you could do the same amount of damage in a combo using 1/2 bars of meter that a super would do doing 4. plus injustice has air escapes,meter burn rolls and clash which all require meter
was he complaining about the difference between spamming and zoning.... this isnt zoning at all you keep spamming the same move over and over
No hate bro I love your flash, but you did spamming the whole game , that wasn’t even zoning anymore
That overhead frost zoning was beautiful
deadshot is not broken. people want to strengthen the weak by weaken the strong
captain cold throw isnt long at all just compare it to others
early shit im holy
Ezequiel Alonso piss off and come back later then
I can zone with deadshot cos I can't use the wrist guns I do the combo for it but he just slaps the air
I like deadshot more then captain cold because deadshot suit was red and I like red more than blue
people talking about spam and shit and forgetting the whole fucking purpose of him playing like that.
lol why is this game so hyped?
they literally just stood there shooting at each other from full screen away for like 20 seconds...
Deadshot is a long ranged character. So is Captain Cold, but not as effective in that regard. However, they both have only roll escapes to close the distance. As a result.... Well, you get the point.
only a matter of time before they Nerf him
Leave it to socin to make deadshot look easy to beat lol
Why do I feel like this is old, usually sonic knows the frame data and he seems oblivious to the way deadshot is played
Anyone in 2024?
Your actually ridiculous to be that good with Flash is insane only "difficult" character I'm decent with is Robin other than that I play pretty easy to pick up characters also great job on beating Fox
Good deadshot combo
F3 1 1 33 db2
(Db=down back)
So boring to watch. I can't believe people actually play like this.
JDEADPOOL23 Do not watch it then.
JDEADPOOL23 They play to win. They play this game for money so why not use the best there is?
JDEADPOOL23 it's people who don't wanna learn combos. It's cheap! F*** dead hot and his spam specials
obnoxious troll *deadshot
JDEADPOOL23 easy there psycho
remember in american sniper where the two snipers try to kill each other from extreme distances...
is funny bc kids says Sonic was anoying but bee is worst and still got rekt
......Honeybee then becomes GODSPEED (get it because he mains flash and became a dam god)
Deadshot reminds me of predator! lol
i hope they add Mr myxspitylic
Injustice 2 Zoners Among Us
Lol expect that low stagger to get nerfed
They may have no choice but the nerf deadshot to hell. Imagine watch deadshot at EVO. The views will drop significantly!
hello may i zone your zone ?
I don't zone with deadshot he's fucking amazing
The brokenness of these characters really does EVERYONE a great injustice.
Did you call Captain Cold broken? What are you smoking?
omfg that first match was so cancerous it was just throws and spam zoning jesus
hiddenwindghost is coming for yall both
The thumbnail spoiler
Deadshot will get nerfed. Trust me.
God damn man this new cod game looks amazing got me hyped.
why sonic isn't streaming anymore
Disrespectful
Night Stalker Why do you comment this on every video 😂 nigga chill.
Just stops giving him likes and he won't comment this again
THE BEST ZONING MATCH IVE EVER SENS THUS FAR!claps*
Lol, plays deadshot, thinks winning is because of him not the char.
Nerf deadshot plz
No need just find a good counter. They left plenty trust me.
I find it sad that people think they can defend trash Deadshot players. It's not skill to stay full screen and go "Pew Pew" And people say there are ways around it. There are ways around it, but it's so easy to get back to full screen that it's just boring fighting against Deadshots who don't do cool stuff. Deadshot can do cool stuff. People only really run to him if they want a scummy win. Like this guy "SONIC! HEY SONIC! I BEAT YOU" yeah you did. Ya remember how? "PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW PEW" Deadshot 101. That's not it though. People bought this game for like $60 or over so they can full screen spam with Deadshot, Ivy, Darkseid, Superman, Supergirl, Aquaman. I think I can continue, but that would just be sad.
Tasting his own medicine :P
HIGH OCTANE POINT AND SHOOT GAMEPLAY
so thats it huh? were some kinda spam squad?
I haven't lost a game with Deadshot in ranked. nobody can handle my long range skills lol. 13-0 so far
"skills"
Kanden95 Yup
Rob Well do your skills consist of actual zoning or just spamming???
Bro Dude both. If I am in a losing situation, you damn right I'm going to spam my way out of it.
Rob cause you haven't played anyone good
they neeeeeeeedddddd deathstroke man damm
To everyone defending zoning. People wouldn't have too much of a problem with it if Deadshot wasn't so unbelievably broken in this game.
Holy shit this was great
that super tho 😩👌👌👌
Call of Duty or Injustice 2? 🤔
I had to turn this off
Is honeybee tekken master
Boring asf 🙄 He just kept shooting at his damn feet
all you did was shoot at his feet :|
i2 tournaments are going to most likely have the worst views among the past few games do to how boring zoning is to watch.
Zoner Fox got his own dose