41WHP Electric Grom, Ride along to go get a PIZZA! QS260, Bac8k, 32KW.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2022
- It's been a bunch of Super73 Videos, figured it was time to make a updated video with the E-grom.
Bike is setup as:
Qs260 12KW Hub Motor.
ASI BAC 8K Self Tuned to 32,500W 50% Weakening, 820 Phase.
BITI 20S24P 100AH 10C Battery Pack.
Just a small ride along where you can see the GLE overlay on the screen.
The pizza turned out good :) - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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This changes everything ... A lot of people need to keep in mind that the original Grom had between eight and 10 hp... which you would pull between 55 to 60 mph in top gear at redline...
Seeing something like this changes everything in regards to the Grom .. this brings new life into the Grom that I have sitting in the backyard... with a messed up transmission... this literally changes everything
Looks like the worlds coolest pizza delivery vehicle
Love the way the channel works 💪🏾
Nice. My grom still has a zs190 swap I haven’t finished. I’m running the FarDriver 961800 on my dirt bike but still at 72v for now.
Nice man! Sounds like two really fun bikes.
Get the Grom Finished!!
This video was amazing. What a ride!!!
Thanks Brandon, I usually try to plan and do a nicer video but sometimes just right off the cuff shows the real experience.
The tq on the machine makes me smile every time, thank you for watching and your comment.
Hey man, appreciate your videos on the electric bikes. 👍 I have one of these stock right now, haven't gotten it registered yet but I'm in FL also... thing is painfully slow on the road so I've definitely got plans to upgrade it to at least 50mph or so. Modifying electric is seriously fun, started my adventure off with a razor dirtbike upgraded him to 60v now it's time to work towards some real fun... thanks for the inspiration.. your bike is sweet. 🙏
It's been a journey with this bike for sure, I remember how brutally slow it was stock. At the time I thought it was not to bad mainly because speedo was off 12 mph.
What do you have in mind for mods? When I had the stock motor at 120A it would do 50!
Thank you for watching, do you plan on posting some videos I would love to follow along if you do.
@@BuildItTuneItEV Honestly I'm not too advanced so as much as I'd love to try to jump into a battery build I've been just eyeing a pre-made 72v 50ah lifepo4 on amzn. I have a few controllers laying around already from previous builds but it appears the battery I'm looking at has a peak discharge of 100a. Right now I've only got about $1500 to put into the build so I'm just kind of pondering what the best route I should take is... any tips would be appreciated, thanks a bunch. 👍
@@TreasureOutdoors Okay! What controllers do you have currently? A 100A will be double the power!
Switching from lead acid to lion alone makes the bike accelerate much better and increases the top speed by a little bit. I ordered one from aliexpress that was WAY cheaper than amazon, but it took like 5 months to ship. I just paid for a sondors metacycle that honestly is not as competitive spec wise as what is shown here on this video, BUT I look forward to modifying it, as well as continuing modifying the e-grom
aliexpress shenzhen foxell technologies co. ltd 45ah bluetooth lithium battery with 150A bms was $686 although shipping took about 5 months.
Domino's need's a fleet of these 🚀🚀🤣
Need that set up!!
This thing is wicked fast!!
Thanks Drew! Big fan of your build as well.
That bike is awesome!
That is the sickest thing. I'm building one. It's settled
She’s fast Mike!
Thank you Alex
Can't wait to see the BAC on the Mojave!
You and I both :)
That subaru that the bike was parked next to is clean .
Thanks man, you can check it out on my IG. MtunedMike
Im in FL as well, dont you have a shop where we can send it to and have it spec as yours is.
No shop yet, slowly working on that.
Hopefully soon!
What town will your shop be setup in? Im in Lake County FL @BuildItTuneItEV
@paulmryglod4802 Ormond Beach
Did you have to modify the swingarm to fit that hub motor? And any idea if itll fit the grom clone swingarm? Looking at swaping mine from gas to electric
Not sure about those 20in wheel bikes? I'll stick to my 17in wheels. I do love the grom, but its been 10yrs now since I've owned one. I've stuck to Ruckus and Vespa mainly. Might have to try out the Egrom
Is that bike the evader from venom i wanted to buy one but it only goes 35 mph if you managed to upgrade it we need a full parts lists and website links to where you bought the parts and a how to install you'd be doing millions of people a service for real you have no idea how many people are looking for upgrade kits for that bike
So you have nominal 12kW QS motor and pumping in it 3x more?
Pretty common for hub motors as the wattage is continuous use.
In 3 seconds at 50kw its already at sixty. You just dont stay in it long enough to cook coil.
Even on a 1/4 mile run.
Hi! Thank you for your videos on this bike! I just got mine and was wondering how you got your trunk box to fit on rear? I got a 55l trunk box 😅 also where can I purchase an EGR on sticker??
I mounted it to the oe rack
32000 wow that crazy
Sick ☝️🤟👽🚲
Thank you Louie! I actually took it out yesterday for a 80 mile cruise with my fiance 2up. This bike surprises me every time I ride it. I plan on installing the new controller today as long as no surprises throughout the day which take me away from the Project.
Is this the venom e vader? If so do you have a parts list?
Silly question: what’s the name of the song right in your intro? Shazam keeps pulling up the wrong one lol!
What’s the top speed in mph ? I have a grom I bought with a blown motor for 800$. Would love to make it like this. But I need at least 60-70mph and a range of 100miles. I have two 72v 40ah batteries brand new I need to get some use out of lol.
Nice noice
Love the build! For the past couple of years I’ve been mulling over doing an EV swap on my Honda Grom, and I think something like this might be a route to take. Do you know any good place to start for resources? More specifically for the battery controller, and battery construction. I’m very familiar with modifying ICE cars/motorcycles, and I think this would be a good way to get an introduction into the EV world.
Looking forward to following this build as it progresses!
Click on the Egrom playlist.
I show everything I did to get here and the battery build.
But essentially you just need a hub motor 12x3.5. A controller that can do the power you want. And then a battery to supply it.
Look up qs 12” motors and you can find full turn key kits minus battery.
@@BuildItTuneItEV The battery construction seems like the hardest part of this process, right?
From a look around getting discharge rates as high as you mention seems to be abnormal when looking at premade battery pack specifications. As you make mention in the video about upgrading your controller for additional amps for future gains. I am assuming that is why you built your own battery? or is there a significant cost savings as well?
Also oddball question, do you tune Subaru's as well? One of my buddies said his tuner was doing a project similar to this.
Yes I do :)
This pack is essentially a race pack, it compromises some safety for performance. As well the time it took to construct. If this battery was for sale it would be around 4-6,000 USD. How ever I went for a battery that had the ability to produce 100HP and the range needed for myself.
You could go with a heavier chemistry with more AH (range) or target less peak amperage and use different cells.
Finding a used Chevy volt module and using that would be the most cost effective route. I purchased the build knowing I had a final goal of 0-60 in plaid (tesla) times. I find if I have a vision from the start it helps achieve that goal , so I set it high.
At this current 32kw it’s 3.88 ( with a 1 foot roll out, that 1 foot is a factor since I’m not preloading and just stabbing throttle)
Soon I am redesigning the stretched arm that cracked and will have the new controller to take full use of the power.
So unless your wanting crazy power output you can just shoot for a higher AH and worry less about peak output.
Use a wattage to hp calculator as the math is perfect.
You don’t need very much power to have stock Grom HP.
@@BuildItTuneItEV That's awesome! What a small world!
What took me so long is that I've been waffling between a CBR300 swap or something similar to where you are now. Realistically as your bike currently sits is at the top end of what I was looking for performance wise (30-40HP), and you're exactly right if you set a final goal it hopefully limits the amount of time you spend rebuilding/replacing components.
I'll have to take a look at the Volt batteries and try to figure out more about those, as well as do some more digging into specific battery cells. Appreciate the heads up!
Any other pointers you would have? or just general advice?
I truly do appreciate the responses!
@@Opdahl101 My advise? I started off with a really cheap E-bike that came 350W. I picked a Super73 Z1. It barely did 20mph and took around 20 seconds to get there.
Since it was so low cost for everything, it was easy to experiment and if I damaged something replacing it was easy. In about a year to year and a half I learned enough to build the E-Grom. I have been into Electric stuff about 2.5 years total.
No doubt the E-grom build could be your first, you just would have to really grasp things as the cost of components at this power goes up.
Building a cheap ebike will get you familar with all the terms, tech, and even a small battery build. So when you do something larger you will have some confidence.
I eventually turned the 350W Pedal bike into a 18,000W Ebike that did 0-30 in 2.5 Seconds, with top speed of 70MPH.
(Check out the Super73 Z1 build playlist if you want to see the progress) It essentially covers my learning progress. I started this channel just as I was finishing my second E-bike build. So almost all of it is here. You can look back and see some of the silly and funny things I did.
What kind of battery are you using ? Cell type, brand, ect....
Was using P42A Before. Now P45B
What cells are you using?
How much did the battery pack cost or would cost me?
What battery pack are you running
Hey...great build with our tech. GLE PRO Smart fixed display coming in 2nd quarter 2023 !! Stay tuned!!
Awesome man, hopefully it sill have some of the things we spoke about in text a while back.
Hope all is well, I keep telling everyone I can about you guys. A few more friends have recently picked up a GLE kit for hub motors :)
@@BuildItTuneItEV Awesome! Thank you !
I just got my gle bac8000 from y'all thanks to Mike super happy
@@streetwobbler awesome man, cant wait to see more of your build!
GLE are a bunch of great guys. And they continue to make some of the best products.
The real question is what is this bike registered as lol? This looks like a Boom Vader bike which are typically only around 1400w to 2000w out of the box with the stock QS motor and can only do 35 mph and can be registered as mopeds. This bike looks like it would be in the 400 to 500cc class in terms of power with waaaaay more torque definitly under the motorcycle classification. Very cool bike though much faster then a stock grom I wish I had one.
Tagged as motorcycle
@@BuildItTuneItEV Thought so lol awesome bike just the same.
Man! Im looking for a controller/motor upgrade like that for my bike! I have a 72v 5000w cafe racer that i got up to 120kph but im think i can break 157 kph with a bigger motor and better controller. Im having trouble finding something that fits this size (5.0-15).
would you be making a kit for grom? i want this for me grom
How did you register it
Man, I have to check my gopro. All the footage from it looks horrible... It's filmed in 2k so not sure why.
prob youtube compression.
I need to read more about ways to prevent it, sucks that my iPhone 12 video turns out better than a hero 8 black. Hoping it’s user error.
@@BuildItTuneItEV Yeah, lots of full blown YT channels run off of iPhones. Crazy how far phones have come.
@@rangerryda8218 lesson learned for sure.
Now to design a solid phone mount for my helmet haha.
I’ll honestly probably just sell off my GoPro stuff, and pickup a second iPhone. It’s easy to use, easy to upload and you nailed it on the quality. Plus as crazy as it is to say, the battery lasts longer.
Aero wise it won’t be as ideal, I’ll have to brain storm some.
Did you upload in 4K or 1080?
How much does the full bike weigh (sans the rider)?
In that video it was 275 + 180 lb rider.
Now its 340lb with 195 lb rider. But now it makes around 110 whp
@@BuildItTuneItEV Cool, thank you! Re the 110 whp: same motor and a different controller?
@@runcycleskixc I suck at updates, but no new controller, 96v, new motor.
26s24p, 2800 phase amp controller, 1300 line amps.
@@BuildItTuneItEV Good to know! The original bike was sweet as is, but love the upgrade.
@@BuildItTuneItEV I can't wait to see that!
Is there a video On installing an extended swing arm For a hub motor... Motor wire extension😂😂😂😂😂😂
Have you had many problems after owning it for a while?
Only issue I have had, is wanting more and more.
I keep making it faster, almost in the 2 second 0-60 range.
this is an awesome setup! do you build batteries?
Yes I do
@@BuildItTuneItEV do you have a website with pricing? definitely going to do a build like this
Upgrademyebike.com
Battery builds are not up yet
What would you say the cost for this is?
Depends on how extreme you want it truly.
How much for one.
What is the cost of something like that 😂
If you ever decide to sell this let me know I’ll be the first to buy
Where can I get these parts?
Battery is self made.
Controller is a ASI BAC 8000
Hub Motor QS260 12x3.5
Swing-arm for conversion from ali express.
Battery box self made.
Hub motor needs to be sourced direct from china.
What size is your swing arm?
@@billyjoel4805 Length or drop out? Stock length arm, The billet one I used cracked almost right away and I ditched it.
Oh wow. Do I have to change it or can I keep stock one
Needs to be able to fit a 21mm axle with 18mm flats. Flats are meant to be used in a slot for anti rotation. So if you can mod the stock arm your fine.
If not go on AliExpress and type in monkey m5 swing arm. And use one of them.
They sell a version for electric on there.
Question: Have you thought about using a mid-mount QS motor instead of the hub motor for less unsprung weight? I am looking at a more moderate upgrade and am thinking about a 4kw mid motor to get the bike into the 45/50 mph range. Do you know if the controllers that come with the QS mid motor packages are already programmed for the motor they come with or is further tuning necessary. Have you tried implementing regen breaking on any of your motors/controllers?
If you don’t mind watch the video, for your question about regen. As it’s one of the very first things I speak about in the video.
A qs273 17" can peak at 85kW (higher than any motor in the price range) and still have room for a lot of battery and be in the budget. When your bike weighs over 100kgs, the unsprung weight isn't an issue as long as you ave decent suspension. Mid id good for offroad when u only need it for 20 miles, but hubs are better on the road and also for wheelies.
What freaking controller is pushing out 400 amps DC
It at the time was a ASI Bac8000
@@BuildItTuneItEV Yes I went through a lot of your other videos watching them to figure that out
Thank you for your reply insane
@@johnfarias7230 thank you, after that I used a fardriver 721800, and then A 3shul cl1400. And now a new fardriver on the way
@@BuildItTuneItEV Nice I have the sabaton 72200 it's good but software sucks no break throttle amongst other things not even a wire diagram really
Hey bud where are you in Florida?
It's cool but not for me
Thanks for watching regardless!
Disappointed about the lack of pizza footage. Just saying
Man, me too.
Sadly where I live, that pizza is as good as it gets.
Thankfully I have a pizza oven and usually make my own, but on rainy days and for 9.00 laziness can win 😂
Where I live is essentially where snowbirds travel to in the winter so they don’t even salt the food around here 😂. It’s the worst.
If someone wanted to ship you their e Vader could you do this?? I would literally pay whatever you think your time is worth. I cannot ever in a million years learn this myself. But like dude I would love this.. please let me know
Hey i couldn't help but noticing your wearing shorts, flip flops, and no gloves. You said you rode Crotch Rockets and i don't understand why your wearing what you have on. I can't help thinking you've never been down before. You ever have to put your feet down with those flip flops you feet are F up besides your toes and your hands also I've been riding Crotch Rockets for 35 yrs I'm 55yrs old seen some pretty awful stuff and some messed up people from not wearing the proper gear trying to look cool. I always wear my riding gear jeans, 3/4 shoes and a jacket and always gloves always never without them ever. I have no idea why you would post a video wearing what your wearing and not think someone would say something about it. People are maybe looking at you because of your not riding gear also. Please consider some. Road rash is very painful and it could keep you from making a trip to the hospital. Ive been rear ended at a light a riders worst nightmare but because i had on my gear i was able to walk away with not road rash or broken bones my riding gear did it's job and kept me from going to the hospital or even put in the back of a Ambulance i went home without a totaled bike. I'm not trying to be a mean person just would hate to know you got severely hurt. I tell everyone this not just you everyone i see not wearing proper gear. I love riding my Stealth bomber as much as possible. I really like your build very cool and very nicely done great job can't wait for more videos from you about your bike. Cool luggage case also very nice to have for carrying your things. Please don't take my concern the wrong way i just want to see more videos from you but not of you busted up or in the hospital or at home in bandages. Please ride safe and enjoy and please take care buddy.