I rented this camera 2 weeks ago. I've tried for my street photography shots. You just have to give up on autofocus and try manual focus. Since AF is very bad they should put focusing range ring on new lenses so we can try zone focusing. Or just get the older lenses if you are thinking to buy this camera. When you nail the focusing, the image quality you will get is amazing!!! I've never seen anything like this. Size makes difference. When you zoom in Lightroom, you can see how much details are there! Camera has the best grip of any camera ever. It is an excellent built camera all over. I wish they'd put little joystick pad on the back of the camera like Fuji. I took high iso shots during the night time, they look good too. I'm looking forward to try 907x. Please Hasselblad get the phase detection not contrast based AF and add little joystick pad on the back. Then you'll get much more Photographer buying your cameras. Till then you'll just get the photographers who are just into landscape and portraits
great summary of your experience. I disagree on PDAF. Fuji GFX100 has shown it can lead to grid lines in heavily-pushed areas, with some reviews saying it loses a full usable stop compared to GFX50. Panasonic & Leica have proven contrast detection can work well with modern computer vision, which seems clearly the correct compromise given the rest of the camera, vs. the alternative of making up data so the grid lines are visible much less often (but still fundamentally present). They need to write some good, fast code, or in the worst case an ASIC or FPGA. They don't need to compromise the sensor's image quality. Honestly, I do push this camera's envelope and miss shots because of its 1990s-style AF hunting, but 2/3 of my frustration would disappear if the camera would stop confirming AF lock on things that are not in focus. It will do this repeatably on, for example, christmas lights, which would not have happened with my 90s Nikon film SLR. The AF is a write-off as it stands and could probably be greatly improved without Panasonic-level algorithmic magic. I agree with you on zone focusing. I also don't appreciate the nonlinearity of focus-by-wire because, when focusing in the dark for a long exposure, I tend to rock across the focus point looking for the highest-contrast peak. The ring position needs to be meaningful without nonlinearity or play, like a video lens or Leica M lens, for this to work well. I also think they should not be holding back True Focus for H series. Their organization's raw capability is uneven compared to the competition, so they can't afford to cripple products while maintaining credibility and good will. Instead they should be evolving these strengths. Instead of withholding it, they could evolve it into a modern UI for something like automatic zone focusing (choose points at the front and the back of the focus region, have the camera automatically choose max aperture, taking field curvature into account) or focus stacking (automatically choose the number of frames needed for the aperture you specify, and execute them). These improvements may be more within reach for them than depth-from-defocus, and I would honestly appreciate them more.
I think you undersold just how *nice* this camera is in the hand. The ergonomics are stunningly good and the look and feel are unbelievable. Not long ago I compared it to the GFX 50R, it's closest competitor. The GFX is probably the better camera and the better system, but the 50R is a real clunker compared to the sleek Hasselblad. I'm sure the lack of a in-camera shutter help to make it as sleek as it is, and why the lenses are more expensive... Anyways, my point is, sometimes shooting experience matters more than specs and features.
I've reached for this camera several times, I have several friends who own the X1D V1 and shoot with it professionally. It's so beautiful and ergonomically friendly that it screams to be picked up. Another friend handed me his GFX 50R on two different occasions. I gave the clunky brick back both times immediately as it was really unappealing (to me). I'll take the well designed X1D II (with it's few shortcomings) over the clunky 50R any day of the week. BTW, I use many cameras Fuji included but I couldn't get on with the GFX 50R. So yeah I agree with you, shooting experience and handling matters.
No video, poor focus,etc, etc; this camera for all intent and purposes is still in the concept stage! But it is a Hassie. and you gadda love it! Always love your demo images.
Having tested this camera, I can say it is truly a work of art! Sure, it’s not up to par for any fast shooting but I think still-life or other stationary style of photographers can be really happy with this camera. And the form factor certainly makes a big difference compared to any GFX counterpart, the Fuji bodies seem crude and bulky in comparison. If I had to choose, I’d pick up the X1D for a hike any day over a GFX S/R/100.
I really want to like this camera. I really want. It’s absolutely beautiful, lenses are apparently great. Interface is gorgeous. But Hasselblad is an old school company, they don’t move fast enough. I want fast autofocus, I want Eye-AF, I want usable blackout, I want an EVF decent enough compared to the sensor resolution, I want high EVF magnification, I want fast lenses, I want more MP, etc. That’s what you want if you’re looking at this camera but you don’t get anything.
On two of those points: you mentioned the lenses being great but want more speed. They'd then be considerably larger and/or more expensive; it's a large sensor to cover. Regarding more megapixels, this thing is a resolution beast. Unless you're professionally printing incredibly large prints, it just wont pay off. One advantage that comes with this sensor is the incredible dynamic range and low light / long exposure capability, which is visible in photos at even web-sharing sizes. IMO it's a better trade off than just throwing higher megapixels at it for the sake of vanity metrics.
I really enjoyed Jordan's input on this review... On topic: I don't get this camera. What can this thing do that a full-frame camera cannot? I did look at the sample pictures, but I just do not see any difference to what an A7R III or IV might produce. Is there any advantage on the side of dynamic range or something else that would justify buying this?
@@Crispy_Bee Not exactly correct. difference to micro4/3 vs crop 1.5 . Crop 1.5 vs FF is really big deal - 2.25 difference if we speak about square. It is close to difference between "real 645" and FF.
Most photographers don't know the benefits of 16bit raw files in comparison to the typical 14bit raw files. 16bit raw files permit greater processing of the dynamic range. Both the versions of Hasselblad X1D 50C are small medium format cameras that offer 16bit raw files. The Fujilfm GFX 50R and GFX 50S are small medium format cameras too but offer only 14bit raw files. The Fujifilm GFX100 offers 16bit raw files but it isn't a small medium format camera.
With this particular sensor, the advantages of 16 bit raw are marginal over what the GFX50 and Pentax 645Z offer. You can see the lab tests here: www.dpreview.com/reviews/hasselblad-x1d-50c/5
Sounds like they need to hire more software developers. I can't think of a time before this where a feature in a camera said "not supported yet", lol...
This is the way software development is going, and not just for cameras. It's like that at my company as well. You put a minimum viable product out as a release and then listen to the features customers specifically ask for as upgrades so you don't waste time developing features nobody will use. The truth is, almost nobody will want to use this camera for video. That's just not what you buy a medium format camera. I imagine they will trot something out there for video eventually, but it won't be great.
@@danieldougan269 Like you were saying, probably few people will want to use this for video. I made the comment because it is odd to me that they put in a place holder. I personally consider the lack of finish on such a camera pretty sad. Especially since it appears to be a revision of the previous model. I also have done a lot of software development over the years. For contract work I do, you can bet that if tried to give a percentage of what I promised in a quote it wouldn't go well. While the situation is different, I'm not going to say positive things about half feature. I checked B&H, this camera is listed around $5.7k.
Video was added as of the last update... Nothing will ever make this camera a sports, wildlife or action camera... or even a real video camera (though its nice to have decent 1080P now if you need it in a pinch)... but Hassy has done a good job ironing out the bugs and adding some features through Firmware updates... for landscape, architecture, posed portraits its hard to find better IQ even from the latest FF sensors... even for street with a little forethought and some manual zone focusing it works pretty well... I have a Sony A7r4, but still I find myself taking this camera and the 45mm F4P for hikes in the country and mountains or walks in the city...
but higher price, and extremely limited function (comparatively), makes it the right choice for only a marginal few. They can't be making money yet on these. Definitely a promising line. Hope they get up to speed in time to not only be competitive, but even make profits- and money can drive R&D
I think that for people who use medium format cameras the speed is OK. And it's a great camera for those who want a small camera for using strobes outside. Small camera, small stand, small strobe and you have a great performance/size combo.
I just Px'd my GFX50s for this baby - and I wished I had gone down this route 1st - everything about it is class - the GFX is too big, too complicated and a little too gimmicky - but when it comes to the final result even my clients have noticed - thats when it matters the most - and no I didn't tell them!!!! I am not sure you can compare the GFX100 to this though - different price points by almost double - unless you factor in the cost of the lenses - then the Hass costs ten times more!!!!!! Nice review though
travel photography - slow??? if You're talking 'bout mountains and rocks... then yes... Jordan nailed usability😍. X-T3 FOR TRAVEL!!! 👌 Thanks for the video!!! 👍👍👍
The GFX is a leaf shutter short of beating this camera in every conceivable way (in low light situations I’d take IBIS over that anyway) plus the GFX is supported by Elinchroms hi-sync (better than HSS) and thats the brand I’ve always used. Unless you are infatuated with Hasselblad there’s no reason to buy it.
Wow! High praise! (compared to your review of the first one). I actually do want one for slow photography, but may have to wait for the 100mp if there ever is one.
I have one- I pre-ordered the day it was announced, back when it was supposed to ship in July. I got mine the first week of September. It's a very mixed bag- the AF is sort of a cruel joke, especially if your subject is backlit. The lenses are really pricey, and Hasselblad can't seem to keep to a ship date- the 35-75mm zoom has been delayed multiple times now, however impressive it seems, and I had quite a time waiting for my 80/1.9. This isn't my first digital Hasselblad- I came from an H4D-60 with full kit of lenses. After 3000+ very deliberate frames on the X1D II (largely location portraits and travel/architecture), the form factor is a winner, but I've used the GFX 50R enough to know that there's a lot more capability that can be wrung out of the now-ancient sensor in both of these cameras- face-detect AF, and more AF capability in general, are what I'm referring to here, as both have excellent IQ. The firmware has gotten much better since release- the AF isn't noticeably changed to me (though I've done all of the body + lens updates), but the camera's stability is vastly improved. I haven't had to take the battery out due to a system error in a while now. I haven't checked to see if the iPhone app works with the latest firmware release, but last I looked about a month ago, it was only compatible with Hasselblad's new iPad app. I don't think that anyone is buying this camera for video, but I'd like it if, months after release, they got the feature working. Lack of a tilt screen is a big weak point for me relative to a GFX, but the form factor and handling on the X1D II really are that much nicer, if you aren't price-sensitive. And, if you need the leaf shutter, this is the only game in town, short of stepping up to a Leica S or Phase One system. The lenses are crazy overpriced compared to what Fuji offers- you can't tell me that adding a leaf shutter should double the cost. Fuji has a really excellent system with outstanding lenses, but the experience feels as anodyne (to me) as working with a Sony body- the man/machine connection that I enjoy with the X1D II or my Leica gear just isn't present when using the button-festooned Fuji cameras. It's about a lot more than the spec sheet, for better or worse. The Hasselblad is often frustrating, but is undeniably beautiful and still brings me joy on a net basis. Despite being the second model they've built around this same sensor, it's still very much a work in progress. It's truly the Ferrari of cameras- you'll pay through the nose for something that's finicky but dead sexy, and those who can't do so probably won't understand it.
The only competitive feature is the leaf shutter in the lenses (which makes them so expensive) providing fast sync speeds. It should make this camera the pro choice for studio work - but the lack of eye autofocus destroys this advantage immediately. This camera doesn't make any sense at all (sadly).
I'd say leaf shutters aren't necessary and more, at least not with HSS. They are very expensive and require regular expensive maintenance - and if they fail you can't use it any more. As brilliant as leaf shutters are, they are also very cumbersome and a potential and very probable point of failure...
@@Crispy_Bee Regular maintenance - well, yes, but normally not that expensive (depends on who does it; it might be different with these modern electronic controlled leaf shutters). And they don't fail regularly (not that I heard of, but maybe modern leaf shutters are far inferior than the old ones that worked for decades). And I'm not aware of HSS features with large studio strobes - but I'm not a pro studio photographer dealing with this sort of equipment on a daily basis. (If a focal plane shutter fails, you can't use the camera body anymore, not with any lens; if a leaf shutter in a lens fails, you can't use this specific lens until it is repaired - both scenarios have their pain points.)
Christian Augustin I don’t think so, the latest fuji gfx attracts much more, even the older gfx50. the snnync speed problem is solved by godox. the blads were big in fashion but now they become a pure dentist and lawyer brand
Really wanted to get this camera but ended up with the GFX50R. The Hasselblad is such a beautiful camera body. Its a shame you are not able to hit the focus (especially on the little girls eyes), ive never had an issue with focusing on the Fuji. The other thing i realized is the lenses for the H are super expensive. Im very curious if they are better than the Fuji equivalents. Anyway its a good time to be a photographer, waited decades for a an affordable MF Digital Camera 😁👍 Great Work and Keep the videos coming!
Я не против существования "медленных" камер для сьёмки пейзажей, неторопливых портретов, предметки и прочих сьёмок где не важна скорость и автофокус. Но я считаю, что такие камеры должны обладать как минимум поворотным дисплеем, а желательно ещё и стабилизацией. Поворотный дисплей делает многие "медленные" сьёмки куда более удобными, я это чувствую буквально мышцами поясницы и коленками)))
Just too many compromises for the cost compared to other options. It certainly a specialty tool for certain uses where you need the images that this can make. Otherwise, it's hard not to just grab a Sony, Nikon or even Canon full framer instead.
Good review, but Jordan seems to have problem with the white balance which is constantly changing. Sometimes too much blue, sometimes too much red, to say nothing about the variations of skin tones for the face of Chris.
Hasselblad used to be a camera I aspired to own but it's just not interesting to me anymore, there are too many other more compelling options like a7r4
Hasselblad X1D II 50C is a great camera , but i feel it is still behind compare to the other brand in auto focusing and price is too expensive with available features. Hope Hasselblad work on it very soon . Because other brand are too fast in developing .
someone people have money , someone people spend money , some people like exclusivity , someone like hasselblad and build quality , remember someone people buy Audis, bmw's iPhones and b&o sound systems , everyone has a right to spend their money how they see fit ... if its not for you fine .. if you cannot not afford it fine ... .. this has fantastic image quality for landscapes and portraiture /still life/product photography and this is what you use it for ,.... photographers have gotten by without auto focus and ibis for a good 130 years , you can too ... you are the talent not the camera, you are the star of the show not the camera ...
If only it had IBIS, a more powerful processing unit and focusing comparable to current generation Sonies', was more affordable (idem, its lenses)... It is a beauty of a camera. The onboard GPS, to Me, is a necessary feature. The leaf shutter makes a lot of difference, too. It outperforms the A7r IV by a long shot in lowlight performance and by a small, by noticeable margin - in dynamic range. Its UI is the best there is. Did I mention its body is the handsomest of all?
I'm underwhelmed with this camera, honestly I thought it would have come out as an updated version of a poor product with a higher functioning sensor. I wouldn't even put down my Canon 5DS to pick this body up.
any of you complaining about autofocus (generally, not only about hasselblad) has ever considered practicing manual focus? i am a professional photographer working for 35 years now in this business - for the biggest international news agencies. i did a lot of sports with manual focusing, it just needs practice. the only cameras i use with af nowadays are the top models of sony and before canon for sports and fast (press)action. all the other assignments like reportages, documentations or portraits i shoot with manual focus - mostly with apertures from 0.95 to 1.4 with m-mount lenses, because of the benefit from the combination of inconspicuousness, haptics and image quality. maybe the one or the other shot would not be out of focus if would use af. but it is sure, that i will miss more pictures if i would use af in a lot of cases. first because the camera does not know where i want to have the plane of focus, secondly, because if i would have to shift around with the af-point, the situation will be gone before because i am faster in manual focusing than shifting the af-point with a joystick exactly to the point before focusing. so - as i wrote at the beginning, this is a plea for not to rely on af exclusively, if you have practice, manual focusing can bring pictures which af sometimes can not. ... and to mr.dpreview: with a porsche 911 you would not drive into rough terrain, neither would it make sense to compete with a landrover defender at the monaco grand prix.
With linear manual focus (like your M-Mount lenses) it’s possible to get great manual focus accuracy with a lot of practice. The Hasselblad uses a focus-by-wire system that makes it nearly impossible to get repeatable results shooting any moving subjects. This is part of why AF performance is so essential. Jordan @ DPReview
Sorry FF Camera users, Raw, 16 Bit Medium Format Files are just better in every way, hire, beg or borrow a MF Camera and find out for yourself. Camera Functionality is an altogether different thing and is dependent on what you want a camera to do.
I mean if anyone caught the difference in color between the blad and Fuji…..that should really make you realize the difference right there. Night and day better.
Night and day? The raw files or camera processed jpgs?A person who owns both or either camera will typically have use cases that and skill to have an output that matches intent. And compared to which output? GFX 100S or 50R? Not being combative just curious. I hear this usually not from users but from TH-camrs making strange comparisons and examples that are either poorly processed or ill matched. Usually annoyingly inconclusive to me since only excuses of time or lack software/settings literacy or availability are given when issues are pointed out to authors.
@@anthonyrock5039 the color is more accurate the HNS. I am a proud owner of a phase iq160, and h6d-100c, a one time renter of the Fuji GFX 100 and as far as processing goes I am a working director of post production for a major cosmetics company and have worked as a Senior Retoucher and colorist at top level retouching houses like Gloss. I am not a TH-camr making comments. My client list is pretty legit and I rarely, rarely make these sorts of comments.
@@Darkshutters Great to know this J.D. I appreciate your comment more congratulations and continues success to you. Then you understand my comment as well regarding raw output. Same regarding commentary on comparisons. I also have owned various Hasselblad 120 bodies and digital gear from way back (showing my age hehe). Currently own full 100s fuji system and had the 50s before that and eyeballing the x2d and curious about its output vs h6d100c. Worked at various studios in FX in advertising film animation and games until I burned myself out (more than 15 years of 6 days weeks) but still happily in the private commercial space and writing.
Do you think learning the craft might be useful on those occasions when, for example, your automatic eye detect goes on the fritz. Just an idea. I realise that most watching your channel will be point and shoot as that is what you talk about, but it could be useful.
Sure which is why for the portraits I took with flash I used manual focus extensively. Doesn't change the fact that the auto focus on this camera lacks the useful features that many other brands now incorporate. A Fuji GFX system for example would give users an effective eye detect focus and if you wanted to exercise your craft you could manual focus all day long too.
@@niccollsvideoHow commendable. Thank you. And you make a fair point that you focused manually when using the flash. Otherwise you could have concluded you were watching someone use a £5,000 camera as a point and shoot and complain that it's not very good at it. A spoof if you like. But of course you represent the bar in camera assessment that others can only strive to attain. Regards, Ian.
What did he say about this camera's performance that doesn't hold true for either of the 2 GFX50 cameras? If anything, this camera is easier to hold, better built and offers flash sync at 1/1000 sec.
I just don't get why this camera is so incredibly expensive. Does it have a diamond lens mount? Does it have an engraved celebrity autograph? Was it designed by Louis Vuitton? Or is it really just that hipster? Let's be honest: it has a very very good sensor, but everything else is pre-2010, after watching this review. Not worth my 6k (euros).
hmm. the lens and color science is just leaps ahead of most other cameras full stop. I also find it fast enough for street, so, not everyone needs the toys
I'm doing just fine with only 1 kidney and eating cereal twice a day (every once in a while I steal the neighbor cat's food for a little extra protein)
Another review from you: I love Sony and I wish Hasselblad would do the same but they don`t... Too bad! 02/10 I think you are too affected and you should do a break.
sure if you’re trying to just make up a long video or what but why would you review a Honda and then talk a whole deal about it being trash on an f1 track? this is not a sports camera. That’s all there is. otherwise great review as always.
I like DPReview, BUT... they dont seem to get high end cameras at all... look at all the LEICA hate over the years. Take what they have to say with a large grain of Canadian salt.
also a Canadian and also don't get it. can you please explain what these two high-end cameras are doing that the higher-priced Fuji and Sony cameras aren't doing?
I rented this camera 2 weeks ago. I've tried for my street photography shots. You just have to give up on autofocus and try manual focus. Since AF is very bad they should put focusing range ring on new lenses so we can try zone focusing. Or just get the older lenses if you are thinking to buy this camera. When you nail the focusing, the image quality you will get is amazing!!! I've never seen anything like this. Size makes difference. When you zoom in Lightroom, you can see how much details are there! Camera has the best grip of any camera ever. It is an excellent built camera all over. I wish they'd put little joystick pad on the back of the camera like Fuji. I took high iso shots during the night time, they look good too.
I'm looking forward to try 907x.
Please Hasselblad get the phase detection not contrast based AF and add little joystick pad on the back. Then you'll get much more Photographer buying your cameras. Till then you'll just get the photographers who are just into landscape and portraits
great summary of your experience.
I disagree on PDAF. Fuji GFX100 has shown it can lead to grid lines in heavily-pushed areas, with some reviews saying it loses a full usable stop compared to GFX50. Panasonic & Leica have proven contrast detection can work well with modern computer vision, which seems clearly the correct compromise given the rest of the camera, vs. the alternative of making up data so the grid lines are visible much less often (but still fundamentally present). They need to write some good, fast code, or in the worst case an ASIC or FPGA. They don't need to compromise the sensor's image quality.
Honestly, I do push this camera's envelope and miss shots because of its 1990s-style AF hunting, but 2/3 of my frustration would disappear if the camera would stop confirming AF lock on things that are not in focus. It will do this repeatably on, for example, christmas lights, which would not have happened with my 90s Nikon film SLR. The AF is a write-off as it stands and could probably be greatly improved without Panasonic-level algorithmic magic.
I agree with you on zone focusing. I also don't appreciate the nonlinearity of focus-by-wire because, when focusing in the dark for a long exposure, I tend to rock across the focus point looking for the highest-contrast peak. The ring position needs to be meaningful without nonlinearity or play, like a video lens or Leica M lens, for this to work well.
I also think they should not be holding back True Focus for H series. Their organization's raw capability is uneven compared to the competition, so they can't afford to cripple products while maintaining credibility and good will. Instead they should be evolving these strengths. Instead of withholding it, they could evolve it into a modern UI for something like automatic zone focusing (choose points at the front and the back of the focus region, have the camera automatically choose max aperture, taking field curvature into account) or focus stacking (automatically choose the number of frames needed for the aperture you specify, and execute them). These improvements may be more within reach for them than depth-from-defocus, and I would honestly appreciate them more.
Erkan, I'm agree and please let's hope they don't forget a better battery life.
It's a MEDIUM format camera for CS not a sports camera. I'm interested in Dynamic Range, image quality, not autofocus speed.
I think you undersold just how *nice* this camera is in the hand. The ergonomics are stunningly good and the look and feel are unbelievable. Not long ago I compared it to the GFX 50R, it's closest competitor. The GFX is probably the better camera and the better system, but the 50R is a real clunker compared to the sleek Hasselblad. I'm sure the lack of a in-camera shutter help to make it as sleek as it is, and why the lenses are more expensive... Anyways, my point is, sometimes shooting experience matters more than specs and features.
I've reached for this camera several times, I have several friends who own the X1D V1 and shoot with it professionally. It's so beautiful and ergonomically friendly that it screams to be picked up. Another friend handed me his GFX 50R on two different occasions. I gave the clunky brick back both times immediately as it was really unappealing (to me). I'll take the well designed X1D II (with it's few shortcomings) over the clunky 50R any day of the week. BTW, I use many cameras Fuji included but I couldn't get on with the GFX 50R. So yeah I agree with you, shooting experience and handling matters.
2:48 OUCH! that S1H sensor is really having some issues with light reflecting off the sensor. That reminds me of the issue the original Sony a7 had.
Video feature not supported yet
This is too little camera for too high a price.
Love the opening scene - shows what needs to change on cameras not connected to a phone 👍🏼
No video, poor focus,etc, etc; this camera for all intent and purposes is still in the concept stage! But it is a Hassie. and you gadda love it! Always love your demo images.
Having tested this camera, I can say it is truly a work of art! Sure, it’s not up to par for any fast shooting but I think still-life or other stationary style of photographers can be really happy with this camera. And the form factor certainly makes a big difference compared to any GFX counterpart, the Fuji bodies seem crude and bulky in comparison. If I had to choose, I’d pick up the X1D for a hike any day over a GFX S/R/100.
I really want to like this camera. I really want. It’s absolutely beautiful, lenses are apparently great. Interface is gorgeous.
But Hasselblad is an old school company, they don’t move fast enough.
I want fast autofocus, I want Eye-AF, I want usable blackout, I want an EVF decent enough compared to the sensor resolution, I want high EVF magnification, I want fast lenses, I want more MP, etc.
That’s what you want if you’re looking at this camera but you don’t get anything.
On two of those points: you mentioned the lenses being great but want more speed. They'd then be considerably larger and/or more expensive; it's a large sensor to cover. Regarding more megapixels, this thing is a resolution beast. Unless you're professionally printing incredibly large prints, it just wont pay off. One advantage that comes with this sensor is the incredible dynamic range and low light / long exposure capability, which is visible in photos at even web-sharing sizes. IMO it's a better trade off than just throwing higher megapixels at it for the sake of vanity metrics.
I’m always waiting for saturday Dpreview video :) 👍
I really enjoyed Jordan's input on this review...
On topic: I don't get this camera. What can this thing do that a full-frame camera cannot? I did look at the sample pictures, but I just do not see any difference to what an A7R III or IV might produce. Is there any advantage on the side of dynamic range or something else that would justify buying this?
Only esthetic i belive. If you already Hasselblad user.
I'd say the result is similar to crop vs fullframe. The sensor is bigger, with all its advantages and disadvantages.
@@Crispy_Bee Not exactly correct. difference to micro4/3 vs crop 1.5 . Crop 1.5 vs FF is really big deal - 2.25 difference if we speak about square. It is close to difference between "real 645" and FF.
the question youre asking is is there a reason to buy it over the fuji, and the answer is no
it's funny that with Fuji out on the market already they still come up with an unfinished product like this .......
Was that a crosseyed cat?
It's weirdly common with Siamese cats.
Yep... it's a blue eyed cross eyed beautiful kitty cat.
Most photographers don't know the benefits of 16bit raw files in comparison to the typical 14bit raw files. 16bit raw files permit greater processing of the dynamic range. Both the versions of Hasselblad X1D 50C are small medium format cameras that offer 16bit raw files. The Fujilfm GFX 50R and GFX 50S are small medium format cameras too but offer only 14bit raw files.
The Fujifilm GFX100 offers 16bit raw files but it isn't a small medium format camera.
With this particular sensor, the advantages of 16 bit raw are marginal over what the GFX50 and Pentax 645Z offer. You can see the lab tests here:
www.dpreview.com/reviews/hasselblad-x1d-50c/5
Nope. It’s 14 bit depth. The 16 bit depth description is marketing bs.
@@adamklein4439 50s is 14bit 100s 16bit
Highlight of this review: Jordan shaking his head.
The camera that I C/Would never buy
Sounds like they need to hire more software developers. I can't think of a time before this where a feature in a camera said "not supported yet", lol...
This is the way software development is going, and not just for cameras. It's like that at my company as well. You put a minimum viable product out as a release and then listen to the features customers specifically ask for as upgrades so you don't waste time developing features nobody will use.
The truth is, almost nobody will want to use this camera for video. That's just not what you buy a medium format camera. I imagine they will trot something out there for video eventually, but it won't be great.
@@danieldougan269 Like you were saying, probably few people will want to use this for video. I made the comment because it is odd to me that they put in a place holder. I personally consider the lack of finish on such a camera pretty sad. Especially since it appears to be a revision of the previous model. I also have done a lot of software development over the years. For contract work I do, you can bet that if tried to give a percentage of what I promised in a quote it wouldn't go well. While the situation is different, I'm not going to say positive things about half feature. I checked B&H, this camera is listed around $5.7k.
How about Multi-shot on the GFX100? Even had its own spot on the mode selector...but was just added in the last firmware update a few weeks ago.
@@silvestrocrino3256 I don't track GFX cameras, so if you say it is then I'll take your word for it.
As a german it's alway: "welcome back dippididitiwiviewers" :) love you guys
Video was added as of the last update... Nothing will ever make this camera a sports, wildlife or action camera... or even a real video camera (though its nice to have decent 1080P now if you need it in a pinch)... but Hassy has done a good job ironing out the bugs and adding some features through Firmware updates... for landscape, architecture, posed portraits its hard to find better IQ even from the latest FF sensors... even for street with a little forethought and some manual zone focusing it works pretty well... I have a Sony A7r4, but still I find myself taking this camera and the 45mm F4P for hikes in the country and mountains or walks in the city...
Came here for Crying Jordan but I suppose we got close enough at 6:34. Thanks Hasselblad!
but higher price, and extremely limited function (comparatively), makes it the right choice for only a marginal few. They can't be making money yet on these. Definitely a promising line. Hope they get up to speed in time to not only be competitive, but even make profits- and money can drive R&D
The body of the Hasselblad X1D is like the Macbook of cameras. That build quality is too damn sexy.
Intro: Hassy is so good you end up taking pictures with your phone instead. Aw bless.
I would love being in New Zealand right now where it is nice and warm.
I really love the image quality, too bad the tech and the price point aren't competitive enough at the moment....
Loved the video section of this review.
I think that for people who use medium format cameras the speed is OK. And it's a great camera for those who want a small camera for using strobes outside. Small camera, small stand, small strobe and you have a great performance/size combo.
I just Px'd my GFX50s for this baby - and I wished I had gone down this route 1st - everything about it is class - the GFX is too big, too complicated and a little too gimmicky - but when it comes to the final result even my clients have noticed - thats when it matters the most - and no I didn't tell them!!!! I am not sure you can compare the GFX100 to this though - different price points by almost double - unless you factor in the cost of the lenses - then the Hass costs ten times more!!!!!! Nice review though
S1H looks great, did you use auto focus?
They Do Not Use the AF; it's terrible.
Maybe we see a buyers Guide for luxery cameras someday on dpreview with Leica and hasselblad
travel photography - slow??? if You're talking 'bout mountains and rocks... then yes... Jordan nailed usability😍. X-T3 FOR TRAVEL!!! 👌 Thanks for the video!!! 👍👍👍
The GFX is a leaf shutter short of beating this camera in every conceivable way (in low light situations I’d take IBIS over that anyway) plus the GFX is supported by Elinchroms hi-sync (better than HSS) and thats the brand I’ve always used. Unless you are infatuated with Hasselblad there’s no reason to buy it.
Video came but I am more interested in 907c given it is the same application. And you can do black white back as well. Lens not as good. But it is ok.
Wow! High praise! (compared to your review of the first one). I actually do want one for slow photography, but may have to wait for the 100mp if there ever is one.
I have one- I pre-ordered the day it was announced, back when it was supposed to ship in July. I got mine the first week of September. It's a very mixed bag- the AF is sort of a cruel joke, especially if your subject is backlit. The lenses are really pricey, and Hasselblad can't seem to keep to a ship date- the 35-75mm zoom has been delayed multiple times now, however impressive it seems, and I had quite a time waiting for my 80/1.9.
This isn't my first digital Hasselblad- I came from an H4D-60 with full kit of lenses. After 3000+ very deliberate frames on the X1D II (largely location portraits and travel/architecture), the form factor is a winner, but I've used the GFX 50R enough to know that there's a lot more capability that can be wrung out of the now-ancient sensor in both of these cameras- face-detect AF, and more AF capability in general, are what I'm referring to here, as both have excellent IQ. The firmware has gotten much better since release- the AF isn't noticeably changed to me (though I've done all of the body + lens updates), but the camera's stability is vastly improved. I haven't had to take the battery out due to a system error in a while now. I haven't checked to see if the iPhone app works with the latest firmware release, but last I looked about a month ago, it was only compatible with Hasselblad's new iPad app. I don't think that anyone is buying this camera for video, but I'd like it if, months after release, they got the feature working.
Lack of a tilt screen is a big weak point for me relative to a GFX, but the form factor and handling on the X1D II really are that much nicer, if you aren't price-sensitive. And, if you need the leaf shutter, this is the only game in town, short of stepping up to a Leica S or Phase One system. The lenses are crazy overpriced compared to what Fuji offers- you can't tell me that adding a leaf shutter should double the cost. Fuji has a really excellent system with outstanding lenses, but the experience feels as anodyne (to me) as working with a Sony body- the man/machine connection that I enjoy with the X1D II or my Leica gear just isn't present when using the button-festooned Fuji cameras.
It's about a lot more than the spec sheet, for better or worse. The Hasselblad is often frustrating, but is undeniably beautiful and still brings me joy on a net basis. Despite being the second model they've built around this same sensor, it's still very much a work in progress. It's truly the Ferrari of cameras- you'll pay through the nose for something that's finicky but dead sexy, and those who can't do so probably won't understand it.
Jordan's a mood 🤣 speaks for the rest of us!
The only competitive feature is the leaf shutter in the lenses (which makes them so expensive) providing fast sync speeds. It should make this camera the pro choice for studio work - but the lack of eye autofocus destroys this advantage immediately. This camera doesn't make any sense at all (sadly).
besides fuji gfx all other big medium format cameras have even worse af or no ar all. commercial photographers are used to it and it works
I'd say leaf shutters aren't necessary and more, at least not with HSS. They are very expensive and require regular expensive maintenance - and if they fail you can't use it any more.
As brilliant as leaf shutters are, they are also very cumbersome and a potential and very probable point of failure...
@@Crispy_Bee Regular maintenance - well, yes, but normally not that expensive (depends on who does it; it might be different with these modern electronic controlled leaf shutters). And they don't fail regularly (not that I heard of, but maybe modern leaf shutters are far inferior than the old ones that worked for decades). And I'm not aware of HSS features with large studio strobes - but I'm not a pro studio photographer dealing with this sort of equipment on a daily basis. (If a focal plane shutter fails, you can't use the camera body anymore, not with any lens; if a leaf shutter in a lens fails, you can't use this specific lens until it is repaired - both scenarios have their pain points.)
@@TasteofTaboo But is the leaf shutter enough to make this camera attractive for commercial photographers?
Christian Augustin I don’t think so, the latest fuji gfx attracts much more, even the older gfx50. the snnync speed problem is solved by godox. the blads were big in fashion but now they become a pure dentist and lawyer brand
I loved Jordan's facial expression!
Shout out for the Pentax 645z - probably still better than most.
never mind the over priced Hasselblad. the S1H video? AWESOME
I want to do more landscape photography, but this camera is too much for me. I wonder if can be rented.
the lenses are leaf shutter at 1/2000 at a second shutter synch speed hence they are more expensive
Really wanted to get this camera but ended up with the GFX50R. The Hasselblad is such a beautiful camera body. Its a shame you are not able to hit the focus (especially on the little girls eyes), ive never had an issue with focusing on the Fuji. The other thing i realized is the lenses for the H are super expensive. Im very curious if they are better than the Fuji equivalents. Anyway its a good time to be a photographer, waited decades for a an affordable MF Digital Camera 😁👍 Great Work and Keep the videos coming!
Don’t Fuji make H lenses for Hasselblad
Nice camera, but I still like my Z7 better 😉
what tripod are you guys using here?
The idea of a camera review in TH-cam is to see how the device works (with video and photo samples), not the guy talking to another camera.
On the topic of all things 'Blad, where the hell is the promised cvfii back? Only promised 6 months ago and not a peep since then.
Want a form factor like the X1D II 50C for considerably less money with the same sensor and equally super lenses? Fujifilm GFX 50R. Sorted.
This is driving me nuts - does the Hasselblad X1D II & the Hasselblad X2D have the xPan ratio (65:24) setting?
Yes
Я не против существования "медленных" камер для сьёмки пейзажей, неторопливых портретов, предметки и прочих сьёмок где не важна скорость и автофокус. Но я считаю, что такие камеры должны обладать как минимум поворотным дисплеем, а желательно ещё и стабилизацией. Поворотный дисплей делает многие "медленные" сьёмки куда более удобными, я это чувствую буквально мышцами поясницы и коленками)))
I want a joystick... focusing with that camera is hell with that camera and I'm used with manuel focus.
Great review! The world needs more photographs of cock-eyed cats.
Just too many compromises for the cost compared to other options. It certainly a specialty tool for certain uses where you need the images that this can make. Otherwise, it's hard not to just grab a Sony, Nikon or even Canon full framer instead.
Good review, but Jordan seems to have problem with the white balance which is constantly changing.
Sometimes too much blue, sometimes too much red, to say nothing about the variations of skin tones for the face of Chris.
Hasselblad used to be a camera I aspired to own but it's just not interesting to me anymore, there are too many other more compelling options like a7r4
ok.
Zach Fisher cool story bro
@@Darkshutters hey thanks, I appreciate it!
Ok hun. Try Sony support, hun.
I loved the video features review xD
Google user lol, good one!
Still nothing about GH5 firmware update. Is Canon's lobbying that strong? Half of the videos youtube suggests are "i m switching (back) to EOS R"
is it better than Sony a7s mark 2 in low light performance ??
Hasselblad X1D II 50C is a great camera , but i feel it is still behind compare to the other brand in auto focusing and price is too expensive with available features. Hope Hasselblad work on it very soon . Because other brand are too fast in developing .
someone people have money , someone people spend money , some people like exclusivity , someone like hasselblad and build quality , remember someone people buy Audis, bmw's iPhones and b&o sound systems , everyone has a right to spend their money how they see fit ... if its not for you fine .. if you cannot not afford it fine ... .. this has fantastic image quality for landscapes and portraiture /still life/product photography and this is what you use it for ,.... photographers have gotten by without auto focus and ibis for a good 130 years , you can too ... you are the talent not the camera, you are the star of the show not the camera ...
Welcome back depeefrmmumuff viewers.
Good job.
Yeah I think after the Fuji GFX 50s, 50r and the 100s Hasselblad needs something much more convincing than this...
BEST.....OPENING......EVER
We want 6x6 square format sensor.
If only it had IBIS, a more powerful processing unit and focusing comparable to current generation Sonies', was more affordable (idem, its lenses)...
It is a beauty of a camera. The onboard GPS, to Me, is a necessary feature. The leaf shutter makes a lot of difference, too. It outperforms the A7r IV by a long shot in lowlight performance and by a small, by noticeable margin - in dynamic range. Its UI is the best there is. Did I mention its body is the handsomest of all?
I'm underwhelmed with this camera, honestly I thought it would have come out as an updated version of a poor product with a higher functioning sensor. I wouldn't even put down my Canon 5DS to pick this body up.
CAT! 😻😻😻
any of you complaining about autofocus (generally, not only about hasselblad) has ever considered practicing manual focus? i am a professional photographer working for 35 years now in this business - for the biggest international news agencies. i did a lot of sports with manual focusing, it just needs practice. the only cameras i use with af nowadays are the top models of sony and before canon for sports and fast (press)action. all the other assignments like reportages, documentations or portraits i shoot with manual focus - mostly with apertures from 0.95 to 1.4 with m-mount lenses, because of the benefit from the combination of inconspicuousness, haptics and image quality. maybe the one or the other shot would not be out of focus if would use af. but it is sure, that i will miss more pictures if i would use af in a lot of cases. first because the camera does not know where i want to have the plane of focus, secondly, because if i would have to shift around with the af-point, the situation will be gone before because i am faster in manual focusing than shifting the af-point with a joystick exactly to the point before focusing. so - as i wrote at the beginning, this is a plea for not to rely on af exclusively, if you have practice, manual focusing can bring pictures which af sometimes can not.
... and to mr.dpreview: with a porsche 911 you would not drive into rough terrain, neither would it make sense to compete with a landrover defender at the monaco grand prix.
With linear manual focus (like your M-Mount lenses) it’s possible to get great manual focus accuracy with a lot of practice. The Hasselblad uses a focus-by-wire system that makes it nearly impossible to get repeatable results shooting any moving subjects. This is part of why AF performance is so essential.
Jordan @ DPReview
How does it compare to the Leica sl2...
Sorry FF Camera users, Raw, 16 Bit Medium Format Files are just better in every way, hire, beg or borrow a MF Camera and find out for yourself. Camera Functionality is an altogether different thing and is dependent on what you want a camera to do.
Is there a shuttersound possible ?
The lens is Carl Zeiss?
now it's my dream!
Hummm... a Subaru = GFX or an Aston Martin = X1D ii ?
At 3:00 , I wish the guys in the background did something unexpected , like I don't know, photobomb, or jump in to the water, or maybe fight :)
Colors again are amazing. Nothing like sony nikon or even canon, its on anothe level. People who care about ooc colors will love this.
I mean if anyone caught the difference in color between the blad and Fuji…..that should really make you realize the difference right there. Night and day better.
Night and day? The raw files or camera processed jpgs?A person who owns both or either camera will typically have use cases that and skill to have an output that matches intent. And compared to which output? GFX 100S or 50R? Not being combative just curious. I hear this usually not from users but from TH-camrs making strange comparisons and examples that are either poorly processed or ill matched. Usually annoyingly inconclusive to me since only excuses of time or lack software/settings literacy or availability are given when issues are pointed out to authors.
@@anthonyrock5039 the color is more accurate the HNS. I am a proud owner of a phase iq160, and h6d-100c, a one time renter of the Fuji GFX 100 and as far as processing goes I am a working director of post production for a major cosmetics company and have worked as a Senior Retoucher and colorist at top level retouching houses like Gloss. I am not a TH-camr making comments. My client list is pretty legit and I rarely, rarely make these sorts of comments.
@@Darkshutters Great to know this J.D. I appreciate your comment more congratulations and continues success to you. Then you understand my comment as well regarding raw output. Same regarding commentary on comparisons. I also have owned various Hasselblad 120 bodies and digital gear from way back (showing my age hehe). Currently own full 100s fuji system and had the 50s before that and eyeballing the x2d and curious about its output vs h6d100c. Worked at various studios in FX in advertising film animation and games until I burned myself out (more than 15 years of 6 days weeks) but still happily in the private commercial space and writing.
What kind of cat is that?
Didn’t even know this released
Months ago
Do you think learning the craft might be useful on those occasions when, for example, your automatic eye detect goes on the fritz. Just an idea. I realise that most watching your channel will be point and shoot as that is what you talk about, but it could be useful.
Sure which is why for the portraits I took with flash I used manual focus extensively. Doesn't change the fact that the auto focus on this camera lacks the useful features that many other brands now incorporate. A Fuji GFX system for example would give users an effective eye detect focus and if you wanted to exercise your craft you could manual focus all day long too.
@@niccollsvideoHow commendable. Thank you. And you make a fair point that you focused manually when using the flash. Otherwise you could have concluded you were watching someone use a £5,000 camera as a point and shoot and complain that it's not very good at it. A spoof if you like. But of course you represent the bar in camera assessment that others can only strive to attain. Regards, Ian.
Was hoping for a Nikon Z6 prores raw video
photojournalistsf can’t think of anything more dull than a prores raw video.
@@mavfan1 I'm hoping to get a sample to test shortly. Sorry @mavfan.
When you will do Nikon prores raw review video?
When I get a sample.
Wonder what will leica make in the format.
i'll stick with my gfx
What did he say about this camera's performance that doesn't hold true for either of the 2 GFX50 cameras? If anything, this camera is easier to hold, better built and offers flash sync at 1/1000 sec.
@@silvestrocrino3256 1000 fps you say? Please tell me more ;)
@@beautifulmanclub2512 ... now now... you know I meant at a shutter speed of 1/1000 of a sec...
@@silvestrocrino3256 1/2000 if you are referring to it's top sync speed.
I just don't get why this camera is so incredibly expensive. Does it have a diamond lens mount? Does it have an engraved celebrity autograph? Was it designed by Louis Vuitton? Or is it really just that hipster? Let's be honest: it has a very very good sensor, but everything else is pre-2010, after watching this review. Not worth my 6k (euros).
5.5k and it does not do what my xt3 is doing?
Sounds that it's very hard to defend. It might be excusable for a new brand on thr market. Maybe.
hmm. the lens and color science is just leaps ahead of most other cameras full stop. I also find it fast enough for street, so, not everyone needs the toys
Beautiful camera but would cost about 3 months of my Social Security!
I'm doing just fine with only 1 kidney and eating cereal twice a day (every once in a while I steal the neighbor cat's food for a little extra protein)
2023 - is this camera worth buying? Did they improve the faults?
Another review from you: I love Sony and I wish Hasselblad would do the same but they don`t... Too bad! 02/10 I think you are too affected and you should do a break.
sure if you’re trying to just make up a long video or what but why would you review a Honda and then talk a whole deal about it being trash on an f1 track? this is not a sports camera. That’s all there is. otherwise great review as always.
If it’s expensive it’s no problem if it is very special more special than al others , but it not !
better than my gfx 50r on colors better grip better lenses have leaf shutter but i'm keeping my gf. but next hassy x1d 3 my gfx has to go
Leica S is still the king
Definitely for full frame.
Enhancing the user experience by making the Auto Focus Terrible.....yeah, ok
It is still bad, to be fair though the AF did get slightly better but compared to everything else on the market it's way behind.
@@niccollsvideo When it goes from bad to still bad it's not a product for me. :D
Half a product for twice the price
I like DPReview, BUT... they dont seem to get high end cameras at all... look at all the LEICA hate over the years. Take what they have to say with a large grain of Canadian salt.
also a Canadian and also don't get it. can you please explain what these two high-end cameras are doing that the higher-priced Fuji and Sony cameras aren't doing?
That cat needs some focus adjustment/s :)
At least it's not as noisy as sony a7r iv. But the price...
Nice piece of jewelry not some much a good camera for the price.