GAME SINS | Everything Wrong With The Quarry
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The Quarry is the spiritual successor to Until Dawn. Which is why is has all the same sins plus new ones as well. It supposed to be a horror game, but I only found unintentional comedy.
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I can't believe there was no sin for Abigail trying to pet the hog. I mean a counselor that works on a camp in a forest should have at least the basic knowledge that you don't pet baby hogs, because there will be a mother nearby. That pissed me off so much.
Tell me about it. I know fuck all about wilderness survival, to the point of sleeping in the car last time I was forced to go tent camping, but even I know you don't go petting wildlife.
Imagine getting mad over something that literally has no baring on the game. Bro, grow up.
@@koibitothescrublord4977 This is a video ridiculing ridiculous shit that happens in the game. Hell, this entire channel is based off of that concept. Dartigan often uses common sense to point out goofy things. Makes sense the people watching the videos would do the same. Not petting a wild hog is common sense.
@@koibitothescrublord4977 I see my opinion really touched you. Sorry, bro, try to stay positive instead of being whatever you're representing right now. :)
Dartigan missed that because just got tired, I guess, of the sheer amount of shit in this fking game.
The thing that I hate about the quarry is that the game kept trying to set up characters relationships just for them to not be a thing in the end smh.
They even indirectly try to make Ryan and Laura a couple because Laura flirted with Ryan and then the biting Ryan scene. Also Dylan thinking him and Kaitlyn have no shot with Ryan because Laura is more of his type.
@@andrebryant5081 which was so stupid like Laura was already taken
@@CriticalErrorexe Yea the game made it seem like fanfiction can be written about Ryan and Laura if the player choose to get Max killed.
@@andrebryant5081 It’s funny you mention that because if you get the Gypsy hint from the “Lovers” tarot card. It shows the scene of Laura biting Ryan.
@@andrebryant5081 I think that entire thing was very one sided, Laura just going along and not caring. Ryan was the one showing interest, Laura was more worried about hurting another person with her decisions and getting people involved then biting out of love for Ryan. It's heavily implied Ryan has a lot of confusion with his life and other parts of him, even who he likes and his sexuality.
"an albino big White wolf" *looks like every other werewolf in this game*
Good point - for me though, it was so goddamn dark throughout the whole game that I felt I never really saw what the werewolves looked like at all. I kept checking if I'd turned down the screen brightness by accident.
He really is white you just can’t see it because the game is darker than literally any other piece of media ever created
He is white, just completely covered in blood
@@thesardonicpig3835 tall white bald dudes, who's skin is actually blackish brown so it'll look like fur
Kinda like The Sims 2 werewolves
I think they just didn’t think it thru because his eyes were white and if you noticed all of the wolves had different colored eyes but only silas’ were white
Eliza felt terribly underutilized in the game. Unlike the previous horror hosts, she was not just a commentator or a mental projection, but an actual character unto herself. She had an agenda. She wanted to push you toward a certain path, killing the Hacketts and sparing Silas. What a fascinating twist that could have been, if they had been more subtle about it. Imagine going through the game following her advice, only to find that in the end you got a whole bunch of the counselors killed too. And then knowing that if you played again, she'd actually be actively working against you. You'd have to watch her advice carefully to know what *not* to do, and try to work out your own path.
She could have done so much more. Her ghost shows up multiple times throughout the game, but all she does is look creepy while whispering a few unspecific messages on the phone and saying people's names. What if there was a way you could have found out that she was the one who put the idea in Caleb and Kaylee's heads that they should be able to run free once all the kids and counselors were gone after the end of camp? What if she was the one who clued Chris in on what happened to Laura and Max? Perhaps by making his phone glitch and replay Laura's message?
On another note, it's sad that the final lodge battle is so limited in its scope after the game takes the time to build it up. Only Caleb actually attacks. It is well known by now that the best way to allow certain characters to live is to get them infected and then wait for them to disappear for the story. What if there was a cost to doing it that way, though? If you had to also survive against Nick, Dylan, and so on, depending on who got infected.
In UD the scenes made sense with the DR at the end because you realized who the DR was talking to. The brother who set the whole thing up thus giving the store another layer because you could see how fractured his mind was after the deaths of his sisters.
With Eliza you never know if she’s talking to you or a character just to find out it’s been the player she’s talking to which makes no sense. and then the podcast getting evidence from who knows where
@@randypence6289 i always chalked it up to Emma sending it to the podcast sense she is the only one of the cast to get name dropped although she still gets name dropped even if dead so im guessing it was Ryan but again thats just a guess given the material of the game
Yeah, that would be cool. It definitely would have been better if the hag could only communicate with characters infected with lycanthropy, to conceptualize her as the pith of the curse, the sapient intent at its heart which is subtly driving the infected towards the destruction of the hacketts - rather than just having her be a separate supernatural phenomena floating around being vaguely creepy. It's just more tidy narratively speaking.
to be fair, eliza’s tarot card tells you to cut off dylan’s hand, even though we now know that the best thing to do is to let him get infected so he can survive the night and keep his hand.
i like to think that the card shows us to amputate because it is the only way to save dylan without killing silas, which is eliza’s goal.
That would've been super interesting! I'm upset this isn't real :(
That bit where Dylan is trying to send out an SOS message in the radio hut was actually mostly improvised by Dylan's actor.
Omg seriously?? That makes me love it even more, it’s my favorite part of the entire game 😂
@@dovahsara yes this is true plenty of clips of miles confirming it
@@maddogmajimaswifey3868 I’m obsessed, that’s amazing lol
The herd of bears yeah I’ve heard of bears was so good 😂
@@vegas_party_animal7737
Dylan: Why'd you cut it off?
Ryan: You told me to!
Dylan: Ah that was a bad idea
i think emma might have been making fun of jacob for saying "wheel-barrel" instead of wheelbarrow. there's just no way she had no idea what a wheel barrow is and the writers that was a worth while line to include
@@candle340 Oh yeah. I’ve noticed it too
when I first heard the line I assumed the conversation would be about him saying booty.
@@candle340 those people are just stupid
At once I had the impression she was laughing at him there.
I dunno, Zoomers are pretty dumb.
I felt like they released this game earlier than what they should have. Not only because of the various glitches but also because the story seemed incomplete. Until dawn was a masterpiece, but this really felt short of expectations. Also, when they bragged about how many unique endings there were and then it all turned out to just be different variations of a podcast, that was super disappointing. I had hoped that we would get something a little bit more.
the end is where they rushed it with the static images of the endings of each counselor.
The only ending that was worth doing a playthrough is turning everyone werewolf. But in the end they still kinda flubbed it cuz they just shut down the camp. Instead of having some weird place where the kids and hackett family have to now live there until next moon.
Yes I recall that the release date was originally supposed to be in October. But it was released in June. What the hell. Definitely an unpolished game, but I still enjoyed playing it. Also, online mode doesn't work on my game
this is way more complex than Until Dawn. Of course it is almost the same game with the same clichés, but Until Dawn has like a maybe a few dozen outcomes, this one has almost 200. Also the characters here are imo way better. Until Dawn has some fortes, for example imo there is more sense to the exploration parts there. Also the choices in this game are way more complicated. You can shoot your own friends, you can side with Silas or the Hacketts, or none of them, etc. You can shape the story much more.
I wouldn't say until dawn was a masterpiece, but yeah the main flaws in the quarry likely had a lot to do with rush. Still, both great games, and the quarry definitely improved some of the flaws I saw in Until Dawn (even though, in other ways, it's worse than the predecessor)
a few thoughts:
- the moment they mentioned that the summer camp is two months long and you realize that a full moon happens typically every 29 days, the story falls apart.
- this has been going on for SIX YEARS and they STILL don't have a sure-fire way to control the family members who turn on a full moon. even with electrified fences that they put nick into but let the others run free???
- they've been looking for silas for six-ish years and never once thought to look in the place where his home burned down.
- the characters become useless after they pass their possible death scene.
- the plot with jacob sabotaging the car goes nowhere and is never mentioned again.
- apparently the streamer mode to use non-copyright music doesn't work. it's all copyright music.
- the podcast at the end is awful.
About the fences: i thought that Gaming Harry menyioned that some of the werewolfs consented to locking themselves up but there were others (like caleb and kaiylee, probably spelled that wrong, sorry) who just wanted to do what they wanted when the full moon came
They didn't care about the safety of others + consequences afterwards
You sure about the copyright music? The songs are different when you play in streamer mode.
@@MarcoStassen99 from what i understand, they don't own the music or have rights to it so it can still be claimed even if it is different than the original soundtrack.
@@Stiasteny to me that doesn't make sense in combo with the 2 month summer camp
The first point is actually explained in the game in the clues. But yeah the rest mostly true.
EDIT: Benjamin broke it down wonderfully.
9:48 Literally all you'd have to do is end camp a night or two earlier. Then that way if something DOES go wrong, you have time to figure out a plan to get everyone to safety. It seems maybe the entire Hackett family lacks common sense.
The 911 situation annoyed me too. I can't fathom the idea of someone, especially camp councilors not knowing how to use 911.
Like 4 year olds know how to call 911.
*4 year olds*
Yeah, it would have only made sense if the question was alright so what should I say Nick was attacked by a wolf or a bear because obviously I can’t say a monster
The only character who would have the right to even question the idea would be Nick but the poor bloke was half eaten so 😭
idk, Ryan was giving off autism vibes or something to me, sometimes people like that need to practice things before they do it. He obviously couldn't just say werewolves to the responder, but something like "Guy got attacked by an animal in the woods, need help" probably would've been sufficient.
Dude, just the way they talked when they were about to call. Like wtf? The writers clearly tried to be funny and cliché, but instead they just made the 2 dudes comes off incredibly retrded!
Biggest sin for me was the number of times someone would enter a room/building after being attacked or fleeing a pursuer and LEAVE THE DOOR OPEN. Whatever these supposed camp counselors were paid, it was too much.
Yes they got to the lodge and left both doors wide open
The corpse is one of the missing hikers. There are also a “no swimming” sign and rule for no one to jump into the lake while they’re canoeing.
Hell, as an ex camp counselor. Kids tip canoes all the time so the fact they never fell is accidentally is a stretch.
@@Tues48 The body is at the very bottom, I doubt they would see it if they just fell in.
@@soundstorm7 if the lake was more murky I would agree with you. But it's clear enough for Jacob to see at night, the body would be most visible during the day
Let's not forget the bottom of the lake is full of what looks like water mines and razor wire.
I'm surprised that you didn't sin the fact that:
-Kaylee is impossible to save while you can save Caleb
-If Ryan is bitten by Laura, Werewolf Chris will still kill him.
-That despite finding evidence that the Hackett's spent thousands on electrified cages, it doesn't explain why neither Chris, Caleb, nor Kaylee put themselves in there and why Chris used chains in the same house the electrified cages are.
-Never explains why Silas was a werewolf to begin with.
-The purpose of the Hackett family tree and legacy if the events that caused this happened 6 years prior. (Unless there was something I missed that made a further connection to the gypsy women.)
Silas is a werewolf most likely because his mother practices black magic.
Caleb and Kaylee apparently weren't locked up because, while they normally would be, they ran away so that they could become werewolves and attract outside attention because they wanted the whole nightmare to be over (i.e. they were dangerously stupid)
Don't forget the zip line. You either jump for it, even though the view makes it seem like more a jump in the lake, or "'finish realing it" and it's just there instantly with no realing.
•Werewolf Chris kills infected Ryan by knocking the shotgun into his face, instead of biting/eating him.
•There’s a note in the game which explains why caleb and kaylee were free, as they stated they were fed up of being locked up in cages or something like that. Still pretty dumb but Tbf if they stayed away from their family they had no way of knowing the counseleors were still at camp.
The reason why Ryan dies to Werewolf Chris is because the infection hasn't spread too far and so Chris couldn't smell the werewolf blood within Ryan
More people probably know Ariel Winter and Brenda Song than Justice Smith.
I am over 30, so i know Henricksen and Raimi, and nobody else XD
I only know of Brenda Song and Justice Smith
@@DasKame Haha, same.. Oh and i know Ethan Suplee (Bobby) from ''My name is Earl''.
@@DasKame that's on you being old.
@@justmike1201 I Quote Lance Hendriksen in the Game "Ah... fuck this!"
35:30 The biggest Flaw: The Hacketts had ELETRCIS FENCE-CELLS and an ENTIRE POLICE STATION with Cells... and they locked Chris witch 2 tiny Chains in the Attic?????
Yessss! In the Attic or that rickety cellar with a single lock that can be easily broken with two wrenches. They weren’t even trying.
Yesss, and the hunters could just ask them to hide inside the house, but no, the mystery must continue..
Yeah why not lock the kids in the electrified cages if you can’t use the enter cage and put Chris in the jail cell simple enough. If the kids have a problem with that then that proves that they need to be put down or in this case just Caleb since killing him would cure his sister and Chris
@@vegas_party_animal7737 i mean theorically yes but i don’t think chris would agree to kill his own son especially since the family still can find silas.
I feel the writers just gave up at some point
I felt the biggest sin was not allowing to skip cutscenes (after completing it at least)
The whole game is practically a giant cutscene
Agreed. My biggest complaint is that Until Dawn had more interactions than cutscenes making it extremely enjoyable both the story and the interactions. Whereas this game seemed like 95% cutscenes. When it was finally interactions it was like “tap X” just to be followed by another hour of talking. I found myself turning it off in the middle of cutscenes many times because it felt never ending and like I was watching an 8 hour movie.
@@21tyson55 right, i want to get all the trophies in this game so bad but these cutscenes and 7hr dialogue is irritating 😭
@@21tyson55 Same, I played Detroit Become Human right before The Quarry and was shocked by how little gameplay there actually is in comparison. And a lot of times you only need to walk forward for a minute to trigger next cutscene, it's still fun but damn a year more in development for more gameplay mechanics would have been a blessing.
This game just felt so rushed and it had so much potential. The concept is really interesting and it has a lot of hidden details but it could’ve easily been made into an Until Dawn 2 if they spent more time on it and just adjusted the timeline to fit the first game
Calling it the quarry was a safer bet tho. If they called it until dawn 2 and it flopped, then suddenly their most critically acclaimed game is put in a worse light, which they likely don’t want
Surely if Chris told the counsellors they to stay inside because Open Hunting season starts (which is kind of true) and if they wander about in the woods they’re likely to get shot they would have been more likely to comply?
Agreed, if he would've gave the counselors some sort of excuse instead of giving them zero explanation of why it is important for them to stay inside the lodge, they might have been more obedient
You literally have cages designed specifically to keep werewolves in! Why would Chris, Caleb, or Kaylee EVER be a concern!?
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Also, I appreciate you pointing out that Ryan has a good argument against Laura killing Chris since the latter actually took measures to not hurt anyone, Sheriff Rami told her not to go to the camp (granted, he could have made up a story about Chris not being there, but still), and she got herself mixed into this mess by breaking into the dude's house.
Caleb and Kaylee would normally be in the cages or otherwise locked up, they deliberately left before this could happen in the hopes that the outside world would discover the werewolf problem and maybe kill them. They're really, really stupid.
@@scytheseven9173 Tying in with my other comment about exploring the Hackett family and how they try to cope with the curse, I wish Caleb and Kaylee had actual on screen time if only to see the rest of their family react to their stupid decisions. Given that the whole curse and subsequent 6 years of heartache were their fault, I could buy the rest of the family being _very_ frustrated and even borderline abusive towards them
Just going off how Laura is, I don't think she would've listened to anything he said. In Laura's mind, she called so they were in the clear. She blew off Max asking if she actuall spoke with Chris or left a message and her whole 'What's the difference?' then calling him a dick for rightfully just being frustrated spoke volumes about her character. Honestly, I just can't see Laura as a hero. She's responsible for Max getting infected and never takes accountability for anything. Chris took measures to keep himself away and she ignores that. Instead, she runs through the camp guns blazing that Chris is the cause of all the counselors getting bitten. Even though, while in the jail, Travis DID tell her he was hunting the original werewolf to put an end to all of it and asked her help. She doesn't see any of the other werewolves as people, except for Max. She gets pissed at Ryan and berates him if he turns down the bite. She's constantly snapping at Max and he's always apologizing to her for being irritated with her fuck ups. She said bring tools..he shows up with two and she about started arguing with him about not having brought the whole tool box? So if the counselors had listened to her...they'd still be infected, with the exception of Emma if she was bitten by Max instead of Nick. Caleb and Silas were the werewolves infecting everyone.
Did she honestly expect that the right thing to do was for Travis to just let Max go while he was infected? Risk him killing others? His methods of doing it needed work but it doesn't take a genius to figure out Travis was doing them a solid by keeping them in the jail versus killing them or writing it off as not his problem. They knew he was a werewolf, Travis didn't deny it. Not once did she stop and own up to how her own actions and pushiness forced Travis' hand and landed them in their predicatment. Its someone else's fault all the time with her.
If you eavesdrop on Chris' call, there's info there that makes it appear that Caleb never showed up to turn himself in to his family.
@@GLoLChibs You pretty much summarized Laura's (and for that matter, almost every one of the female characters in this game AND almost every t.v. and film made in the 21st century) perfectly.
Laura = overindulged, c*nt who feels no culpability, loyalty, compassion, or understanding for anyone, or their motives, but EXPECTS everyone to feel the exact opposite to her and her needs.
It's a hypocrisy that "Hollywood" (eg. ALL forms of influential media) has been working @ for decades.
I'd expand on the bigger picture of it all, but suffice to say, the character flaws you've observed here are not limited to this character, this game, or even this medium.
One could say that it's a "man-made" virus and the only cure would be a time machine.
@@david_davidson Kaitlyn and Abigail were pretty enjoyable characters. I really hated what they did with the Abigail/Nick angle- Consensus of the counselors was that Nick was really sweet and shy, yet all the interactions with him are pretty much him being a dick towards Abigail because of the infection, setting up Abigail to be sympathized with. Meanwhile, Laura is the only character not at all affected by the infection until she wolfed out.
Even in UD, while Jess was annoying and entitled, she was remorseful for what they did to Hannah and Beth. We did get to see that part of her, and Ashely was too. Ashley was just a super flake when it came to Chris and probably one of the most manipulative characters in that title. So aside from Laura, I found TQ's female cast much more likeable than UD or the DPA.
22:34
That’s what I hate about these games. The devs want us to save everyone, but what’s the point of saving the characters if some/most of them fade into the background after their first scripted deaths or “pivotal moments” like you said?
I also hate how some characters are easily killable and disappear (as you said) while others are invincible because they can’t die till the very end. Feels like the devs are lying whenever they say “anyone can be the hero.”
And then there’s no real changes to the ending based on who alive/dead/infected. Just a 1-2 sentence blerb of their status. And then a pointless podcast. At least Until Dawn gave us govt recorded interviews with survivors (who asked about their friends status ) or special ops going into the area and seeing what happened
like the salim in the last game who I'm fairly certain you can't fucking kill he's terrorist surrounded by us army and killed several members yet the game kills one character if he tries to kill him it really feels like the devs made him the protagonist of reality for fun felating him I dunno
@@marley7868 You mean Salim? I wouldn’t call him a “terrorist.” The Curator said it best when he called Salim a “reluctant soldier.”
@@jaytonius560 kinda my point the group he was with didn't really inspire confidence of well not being total jackasses and yeah salim my bad wasn't sure how to spell it either way an outsider wouldn't know that and he did shoot up your men so completely justified but no game takes his side hard to the point of ridiculousness
The monster is supposed to be a werewolf but why does look like the wendigo honestly they should have made this into a until dawn 2 have it take place a few years after the first game and have the mountain and the lodge be rebuilt and turned into a summer camp after what happened in the first game and have campers and counselors come to the camp as a trail experience to gain investors and make the camp official have wendigo josh appear in the first game along side new wendigos and have some of the original survivors of the first game come back to deal with wendigo josh once and for all and your choices while playing the game effect not only the ending but how the story plays out you know make your own decisions have alternate outcomes and boom I just made a better game than the Quarry
Bro you just blew my mind. That was such a great idea!
that wouldn’t make sense tho bc how would this game know who was alive in ur until dawn game? 😂
@@diegosbae5534 the same way mass effect and the walking dead did. You keep the files on your ps4/5/pc then when you put in the new game it reads your choices from the previous game so that the new one is effected
My god man, use a fucking period.
@@diegosbae5534 save Data
I'm sorry Dartigan, but as someone who do a little sidework as an UberEats driver, I can absolutely guarantee you that - Unless (maybe) you are rich enough to pay for AT&T services - no bars is a very VERY common ground while driving around... A lot of places I have to go loses internet signal while I am driving... I believe this probably wouldn't happen with AT&T (not sure) because they have a bigger coverage or whatever, but I promise you I tried all the small ones and they all lose signal... So, I dont believe this will be something that will be classified as "past thing" anytime soon...
I have Verizon and have bars a lot of places driving around
@@desireehinrickson8296 verizon is not a small company...
@@kismetsantos1204 I know plenty of people who have small companies and still get service soo 🤷♀️
I have Verizon and literally just spent the weekend camping somewhere with no service whatsoever. You have to drive a few miles away from the campsite to get a single bar and I couldn’t stop thinking of this game when I was there 😂
That's weird, as terrible as the prices are, I rarely lose bars with T-Mobile
To be fair, this guy didn’t seem to pay much attention to the game. He called Nick “Nate” and Dylan “Dwayne” multiple times, and the body is clearly hinted to be one of the missing hikers. Maybe the “sin” would be that so much isn’t memorable, but it’s a little sloppy too.
21:43
Sin! Who is Nate? The guy's name is Nick.
31:18
Sin! Kaitlyn is spelt wrong. Also Dwyane's name is supposed to be Dylan.
31:59
Sin! Werewolf Nate is supposed to be Werewolf Nick.
32:19
Sin! It's still supposed to be Nick not Nate.
38:37
Sin! Kaitlyn's name is still spelt wrong.
Yeah that annoyed me. Who ever heard of a Twink naked Dwyane ?
What's really dumb about Dylan suggesting to cut off Nick's arm is if you ask him why you should cut it, he says that he doesn't know he's not a doctor. WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SUGGEST CUTTING OFF HIS ARM THEN??
I disagree because when a body part is infected, in order for the infection not to spread you will need to cut off that specific body part. I’m no doctor but I think this should be basic knowledge everyone knows (even if it needs to be taught to people.)
Also with Dylan I think it’s obvious that he’s skeptical and says/does stuff when in a moment of panic. Proof is when he and Ryan go to the radio shack and after Dylan gets attacked by Caleb I believe, he tells Ryan to cut off his arm but instantly regrets it afterwards. He also brings it up at least one other time after that too about how Ryan shouldn’t have cut off his arm.
What’s actually dumb is Ryan who saw Bobby cut off his finger when Nick bit him, but not say anything to anyone about that or think that there’s something wrong with Nick. What’s also dumb is how nobody pays attention to Nick randomly healing either (thanks to the werewolf curse.)
@@ningmushii Kaitlyn notices Nick is healed. She's the one that tries to check on him but he kept trying away from her and hiding his heals
@@Tues48 omg you’re right, she did mention it but I think the others brushed it off or weren’t really paying attention
@@ningmushii also if you don't shoot Bobby Ryan literally sees him shoot his finger off so the whole choice for Ryan was dumb there i like nick and abi that whole possible relationship was just shat on do to wanting more wolves in the game
17:39 - 18:08
Thank you for sinning this part. That scene was really stupid and cringy. Seriously how hard was it to say " Hey my friends and I are being attacked and one of us is severely injured. Please send help!" These characters are stupid.
12:04
Absolutely. It became such a consistent glitch that my wife and I moved past being annoyed, and started actively looking forward to the next time someone would repeat a line they just said. A couple times they even repeated a line three times. Awesome.
I watched a playthrough in German and sometimes the characters would just randomly speak english for a line or two 😂
It always took any tension right out of the game and I honestly thought it was hilarious
I always like people's first criticism of horror movies/games is that how can people not have Signals on their phones in a world so interconnected?
Simple answer can lie in one thing: Location of Cell Towers
Where I work is a construction site just on the edge of my town, there are some areas of this site where you lose signal, geography places an important role and even to this day, many rural areas lack phone signals and broadband connectivity so it is extremely realistic/possible in this century that people who travel to isolated areas can lose phone signal.
Also there are such things as jammers too which can jam phone signals.
Horror cliche answered.
If they don't explain it, it's not explained, right?
This is still the real world, no?
Most kids, or people who don't travel to more isolated areas actually are baffled when they only get TWO bars on their phone.
I think what you are dealing with here are a few people who are mystified by how the world "changes" the moment they stray too far from mom's basement. 😄
When I go hunting with my dad, the location we hunt has no cell service for AT&T. But some of the other hunters have Verizon and they get plenty of cell service there.
And it kinda makes sense in the game:
-The camp is in a forest and forests usually block signal
-no cell towers in the area
-Chris Hackett doesn't allow phones in the camp, so there would be no reason to put cell towers to have internet
-if there were cell towers, people would call for help when a werewolf attacked someone, resulting in a bunch of cops showing up with regular weapons so the werewolfs would kill/infect them.
Definitely, the low signal makes perfect since
Saw the hype with this game. I’m thinking , they will make these characters stupid and ominous. I watched RDC play this and even they got bored and laughed at decisions by characters. These games are obvious in how they play out
I heard it was made by the guys who made Until Dawn, Man of Medan, House of Ashes, and hard passed, the games are all the same.
@@amateurishauthor2202thats the problem, until dawn was good and they tried to milk the genre, and we get games made with no love of passion but love for money
no way u just called ryan the only recognizable person in the cast, the disrespect on brenda song for that is amazing
Another sin to add: At the shooting scene I shot the bottles instead of the watermelons as Nick, but Kaitlyn still "shoots" the bottles afterwards. The bottles were still gone, she just shot at the air, which played a glass shattering animation, despite the bottles still being gone
Actually the Body in the lake is one of the 2 missing Hikers the game does tell you who he is, and the Hackett’s aren’t opposed to killing people to keep their secret, Constance says no blood so they have killed before and Travis covered it up to cover for his family, the Hackets are no saints specially Bobby, Constance, and Jed. Travis and Chris seem like the love there families and actually care about people while the rest of their family just wants to keep it quiet. Kaylee writes a letter to her grandmother you can find in chapter 9 saying they should just show people. My guess is this letter is the reason they didn’t want to kill any of the counselors at first.
Yeah the "werewolf" design in this game was bad. They should of used the design from Van Helsing, those are real werewolves.
They don't even get Facial Hair:
Every Charakter in those Games are very Shaved for technical reasons
@@DasKame I'm okay with no facial hair for the characters but the "werewolves" get no excuse.
@@brianachim2670 its the 5th Game with the Dark Pictures Games. They should get their Hair/Furr Technology done
@@DasKame I totally agree, it's 2022!
I think they were trying to make it a mystery what the monster was. Problem is I figured out it was werewolves pretty much right away and I'm sure a lot of other people did too.
Yeah, I noticed that almost every character is an expy of an Until Dawn character. Emma is basically Jessica and Emily combined, Kaitlin is basically Sam, Abigail is definitely Ashley, Jacob and Nick have Chris and Mike's traits divided among them, Dylan is, in a way, Josh, and Ryan is basically Matt, the token brown voice of reason. That makes Officer Travis Hackett a determinate version of the Flamethrower Guy.
I always thought that Travis Hackett looked like a Woody Doll come to life and life-size.
Not sure about about Jacob and Nick splitting Chris and Mike's traits. Jacob feels more like Mike's horny macho act cranked to 11 and Nick comes off more as Chris's naive guy with crush.
Dylan is more of a Chris , while Nick would be more like Matt since they are wasted potential disappearing for majority for the game, Jacob is more of his own character rather than Mike they have nothing in common except being white males with dark hair. Ryan is like Mike since they both have many playable segments & have plot armor, they even have somewhat the same scene when Ryan is trying to save Nick & Mike trying to save Jessica.
To be fair maybe chris can still have heart attacks but they just don't kill him. Also that 911 call clearly lasted long enough for someone to come since we could hear the operator, isn't it protocol when a call drops like that to send a car?
The operator might have contacted Travis since he is the officer in the area
9:50 The real question is why schedule summer camps around full moons. They are like 4 weeks apart, and they also need to prepare for the hunt which probably would take a couple days at least.
10:10 I’m pretty sure Chris Hackett ran the camp before turning into a werewolf.
yes but it seems like common sense to take a break or something once he knows that he’s putting kids in mortal danger💀
Dartigan mentioned Justice Smith, David Arquette, and Lance Henricksen, so I was ready for them. I was lulled into a nice sense of 'Oh hey those guys. Okay' then WHAM! Sudden Lin Shaye. Glad to see she took time off from exploring The Further to be with us today.
I bet one of the Red Doors lead her there.
Which one is this Lin Shaye?
@@Shantae1188 She was the one playing the grandmother inside the house. If that is what you're asking.
@@Shantae1188 Constance Hackett in this. She’s an icon of horror films though. Started in Nightmare on Elm St and carries the Insidious franchise. Over 200 acting credits
@@RobertMischief Oh so that is why I never heard of her. Never was interested in horror movies.
I was so significantly let down by this game. I was actually angry that it finished because it made me realize how much time I invested into this game.
As an American, you sinning the shooting competition, The shotgun needs to be reracked before another shot. You know this.
The reason the shotguns do not use silver in the shells is because they are a deterrent, not to kill the werewolves. Also they really could be for bears also.
Everybody's gangsta till Max pulls up with the binky bonky
There are tons of logic issues with the game, but I do think there is an item you find that explains who's body is underwater. Why they continue to leave it there and order the kids not to swim instead of disposing of it better is still a sin, though.
Will they certainly didn't expect people to go in and look plus they did put traps in case they did they will die
@@kendriccoley7053 So explain it to parents why their kids dead at camp. Because you know kids love to swim at camp if there is a lake.
@@andrebryant5081 well not little kids since they have to obey the rules but since it's last day for these guys
@@kendriccoley7053 There are always bad kids at a camp who will enjoy swimming in a lake especially if it's hot day at summer camp with no A/C
@@andrebryant5081 A murky lake which is shown to be where the toilet waste is dumped?
This could have used some more time in the creation and story vetting. If only it could get a patch to deal with these issues, but the patch probably is 'game replacement' versus fixing pieces. Close but not close enough. I watched so many streamers play Until Dawn to get their game play and commentary. This game, one and done.
This genuinely could have been a 2 hour video if you included everything
My husband loves this game but I find it dull as dishwater. The very beginning made me eyeroll so hard it hurt, the idiot Jacob asked Kaitlyn how he'd break the damn car then it breaks and she didn't notice!?!? HOW!? FACESLAP
The characters are almost all unlikable, maybe I like Abi and Nick a little bit, they're the least bitchy anyway. And yeah the plot and monster are THE SAME as Until Dawn, pu-leeze give us something new to chew on, not the same old dried-out cud.
The body in the lake is one of the hikers mentioned throughout, and the phonelines were most likely cut by Jed & Bobby to stop them making any outside calls. They don't make it a secret that they're tracking them. They also would've let Travis out the cell as Laura didn't break / confiscate his radio that he uses to keep in contact with them. He would've most likely had to have told them about Laura and Max.
thumbs up for mentioning lock picking lawyer on 05:39
Abi’s death doesn’t mean “piss all”… she has to potential to save both Dylan and Kaitlyn in the Lodge later if she’s able to make it to the storm shelter and find the silver shells
So does Emma. Doesn't really make Abigail any less irrelevant
The joke isn’t that Emma doesn’t know what a wheelbarrow is, the joke is that Jacob calls it a “wheel barrel”. She’s making fun of him, she’s not incompetent
Sin 30 is without question the biggest problem with this story. A very brief time after being asked how to dismantle the van, chris gets in an it wont start, and kaitlyn says nothing and realize jacob did what she told him to do.
Ah, my favourite characters: Nate, Dwayne and Jebediah.
You missed the fact that the whole Hag thing with the tarot cards was just utter bullshit. The whole game she helps you so that you won't shoot Silas but then it's a damned if you do damned if you don't situation there!
Like...
You shoot Silas to defend yourself she essentially is like "Fuck you! I hate you! I'll curse you forever!" but if you DON'T SHOOT SILAS YOU GET YOUR FUCKIN' FACE/HEAD YEETED ACROSS THE WOODS.
The game has it's issues but I feel the ending/endgame is where they really just dropped the ball COMPLETELY.
You actually can have a character survive after not shooting Silas, if you get the blood vial from Bobby when you have the chance to shoot him.
the reason why she is mad at the player regardless if you shoot Silas (for obvious reasons) or not, she’s pissed you would even try teaming up with Travis to kill Silas putting her son in danger, she wants all Hacketts dead.
@@storiesbyJTK That's not exactly what I said, but either way it's shitty writing because if you dont get to this point then it means all of you are dead.
Sin# 17, believe it or not, it use to be considered odd to be driving around in the middle of nowhere late at night, public road or not. It usually gave off the red flag of someone being up to no good or coming back from doing something no good. The question is completely warranted.
38:00 she didn't try to find her son? You are cutting the scene before she starts calling for him.
I always thought the dead bodies in the lake were the bodies of the hikers who went missing.
I think the podcast in the ending even further discusses this.
Yeah, this game sins video isn't that good or accurate. I'm bummed
The body in the river gets explained if you find the clues and follow certain steps so it's not really a sin.
It still doesn't make sense why they'd put the body there if the Hacketts were responsible.
Why tf is an Evil Dead reference a sin? 💀
I hate the scenes that give the illusion of choice. The most egregious being Jacob still going to find Abi after diving into the water for the rotor arm, where somehow Emma doesn’t hear him dive into the water and swims off anyway? Then Jacob goes to find Abi regardless, rendering the whole choice of diving into the water completely useless.
The second is failing the QTE that gets Abi bitten, since she never transforms and the game never even attempts to address why that is. It’s clear that’s not supposed to happen, and it’s also clear that Abi was intended to die since her arc drops off entirely if she survives the encounter with Nick.
I also just despise how Kaitlyn and Dylan don’t collect the rotor arm. It only makes sense if Dylan is infected, since Kaitlyn wouldn’t have time to grab the rotor arm after checking on him, but my first play through I chose to amputate him so the fact that they don’t take the part with them just absolutely pissed me the fuck off.
Also, why are so many of the interesting story beats dependent on the player failing QTE’s when the QTE’s are so easy? Having to intentionally fail them in order to make things happen is just so incredibly lame. They should’ve been more difficult
And people wonder why the Silent Hill fans want the series to stay dead, if shit like this passes as horror and praised by mainstream media.
The body is one of the hikers, and none of the kids seeing it is because swimming isnt allowed in that section of the water
Ok this game was awesome, I really enjoyed it a lot. However it does have many flaws which I won't deny.
But having said that. hot take incoming: I liked this more than Until Dawn. Yes, you heard me. Please dont flame me in the replies.
I just thought this game had a really good branching storyline, and no character felt like they had plot armour like Sam and Mike in Until Dawn. Everyone was more involved in the story (while I agree Jacob kinda fizzles out in the last two chapters) unlike Matt and Jessica in Until Dawn. Also the fact that every character has three end states is so cool! You can infect every character and turn them into werewolves which has so many differences throughout the story... Emma being a werewolf can dramatically change the second half.
I’ll give you that but this game just feels lower budget and a lesser repeat to until dawn. There’s just something about until dawn that still makes it better and I don’t think it’s just nostalgia
What's sad is that covid really screwed up production for this game and they mentioned lots of stuff getting cut out. I still love the game but it needed a couple extra months of work for sure.
Travis didn’t get bitten or injured in the storm shelter because he had a little werewolf blood on his neck when he asks you why you crashed in the woods
There's a storyline where you can kill the cop after letting Ryan die, thus reuniting Laura with Max. But the result is, you don't even get to go to the place where Silas is. The game just awkwardly ends after the Kaitlyn Caleb scene.
That's what I actually did the first time and I was wondering why I didn't get to confront Silas😄
I really played this game a lot to get the Platinum trophy
the "depends on the bear" joke is funny after playing baldurs gate
I believe the gypsy stuff is supposed to be a reference to The Wolfman
19:45 gotta get a sin for Dylan and Ryan not getting suspicious of the person on the radio saying "two males in the radio shack" when their distress call was only Dylan talking, the people on the radio had no way of knowing there were 2 people there
The problem I found with the Quarry is that it tried too hard to be like 'Until Dawn' and failed miserably in that aspect, since I couldn't find myself getting attached to any of these characters. Some I just found annoying, while others I felt completely indifferent to. What made Until Dawn so interesting and captivating was that it had you on the edge of your seat, giving you a cast of diverse characters with varying personalities that allowed you to get invested into them and kept you second-guessing all of your actions on determining who would live and die.
Where the Quarry failed was giving a captivating plot and characters that the audience could at least semi care about and just felt like a bad attempt at trying to replicate Until Dawn.
Very well said. I completely agree.
Ok, the "take your cloths off" reminded me so much of Plumbers don't wear ties AVGN episode.
Man it's sucks watching these guys slowly decline since until dawn
I enjoy the instalments of the dark pictures anthology, I think this games blows though
It is actually proven later that the hunters did cut the power to the lodge when Abby and Emma are in the cellar and find silver bullets in there.
The body in the lake was one of the missing hikers, which was explained at the end during the podcast, the phone going dead and power going out was also explained when abi is in the cellar when she finds the silver shells on the floor when she sees the fuses missing from the fuse box she states so that's why the power went out.
Kaylee and caleb are not locked up you learn that from her confession letter to her grandma that you find as Ryan after he gets stabbed. It's Nick in the cell who the hell is Nate?
When talking about when Laura bites Ryan and thinking you have to be fully transformed to spread it then why earlier when Nick was first bit, why do you think Bobby shot his finger off after Nick bit him when he was dragging him away when Ryan shows up.
Woah, I never got Emma transforming late in the game like that. That’s actually pretty cool.
I knew this video was gonna be trash the moment it took like 3 mins just for one thing to be marked as wrong. 😭😭
Despite all the bullshit the creators thought of to include in this game, the crane mentioned at 34:57 actually CAN keep the load suspended.
If it happens to be a 'switchable magnet', that is (which should be the case on junkyards).
These are, in order to keep the safety at max level, a combination of permanent magnets and electromagnets:
Once magnetized, the surface will keep the load suspended, even in case of powerloss. In order to put down the load, the surface will be demagnetized.
clicked off the video for the simple fact that first sin was 10 minutes long.. that's a sin in itself wtf
Man, don't let anyone tell you that you're just a lazy knock-off Channel. You do some amazing work on these custom intros.
As a general rule, the more expensive it is to make something, the less of it you can have. That's why visual novels can have wildly diverging plotlines depending on the choices you make while something more cinematic has to funnel you into the handful of routes they could justify investing the time and money to fully act and animate. The story also has to be nailed down early on, because the moment you realize you've made a major mistake, you have to flush months of work down the toilet to fix it. So they don't.
idk if you rushed through this game or not but there are so many mistakes regarding relationships and names in this video
3:14 I 100% holding back a shit eating grin when my demise is 3 seconds away.
14:52 Well, they already had the models rendered, so might as well put them to good use...in all seriousness, I'll bet they thought they were striving for "realism", but all they accomplished was making the whole thing feel lazy. -__-
25:10 I hate that tired trope in bad horror movies where despite seeing something that defies all conventional logic the characters still openly deny what's staring them right in the face. There's a fine difference between being skeptical and being in denial. >:(
The biggest sin was emma not knowing what is a wheelbarrow
also about the van part in chapter 9 they are right back at the start of chapter 1 where the van caught on fire due to Jacob yet somehow they forget that even happened and also when Kaylien opens the hood and sees a part missing somehow she doesn't remember or think about what jake asked her in chapter 1
I actually really like the Hackett Family - Chris knows he is a danger to others, so he does several measures to protect people including warning them to leave appropriately, chaining himself up in an attic far away, and asking the group to remain cautious at night and stay safe in the lodge. bobby and his father are out hunting and go out of their way to protect the counselors when opportunities present themselves, travis intensifies his search constantly, and Constance takes care of all of them.
Nah they suck. Chris could have done way more to get the kids out of there, it was idiotic to chain himself in the attic instead of the electrified cages, Bobby and Jeb are hunting to free them from the curse not to help the kids. Once the kids knew something was going on, they could have gone to the lodge and been like “yeah there’s animals we can stay inside with you and protect you” instead of Bobby throwing blood at people. And they decide to kill them very quickly at the end whether Constance is killed or not
@@sarahandrade813 you make a good point.
Can we all agree that this studio peaked in 2015 with Until Dawn? And pretty much every game they release afterwards has been largely forgotten about.
I mean I've even forgotten who they were until you made this video
No, we can't all agree.. that's just your opinion
@@Hexentric8 thank you
32:26 they talk about this in game, the hunters wanted to use Kaylee and Caleb to track the white werewolf with their sensitive noses. Although thats really dumb and i don't know how they would make that work
It would have been even worse if they had a loyal pack mentality to Silas once they found him.
@@TheBlackLakeSiren yeah
oh cmon. "Son of a binky bonky" cannot be a sin. you take that back.
Given how Netflix just funds anything these days I think Supermassive can pitch their idea to them.
Facts this should have just been a movie 😂😂😂
14:00 slight misconception, a lot of Australians that live in the outback use bolt action rifles or double barrel shotguns for recreational use.
I feel the sin for the corpse in the lake should be removed. They do explain who the corpse in the lake is. There's a news article stating 2 hikers are missing and at the end of the game if you submit enough evidence it shows that police find the body and confirm it to be one of the 2 missing hikers.
21:45 you played this game multiple times, HOW did you convince yourself that Nicks name was NATE????
Must be a gag, some other names are misspelled and also called Dylan “Dwayne”. I don’t get it tho.
Maybe because the characters are a bit forgettable
Well he also apparently thinks "lawyer" is pronounced "law-yer" and not "loy-yer" so who knows.
29:00 there's still the white wolf tho...
This game is so painful.
It gets explained that they run the camp for money to pay for all the stuff they use to find Sylas and contain the werewolves
That quick time thing doesn't surprise me at my car insurance bill today the sign on the door said turn handle to open so if people need instructions for door knobs they probably need instructions for games
34:02
I literally shot water out my nose, I laughed so hard at this. Wasn't expecting Ryan to pull a 180 on him with his own insult XD
The thing that confused me the most is that they were at summer camp for 2 months and a full moon happens every 2 months. So wtf happened when all the kids were there😂
My biggest issue with games like this is that there is absolutely no way to know which decisions you make are the right ones. Like choices where you are meant to stay put or run. There is no hints as to which way will be more successful. So every choice is basically a 50/50 shot for you to mess everything up.
the game is subtle about it to some extent oppose to the scene with Emma in the treehouse but it’s more like common sense. I get why players would want Max to wash to shore to see the other characters but he’s entirely safe on his island since he was the only danger, why go all the way to another place however Max wouldn’t know this. I wonder who kills Max though because at this point, the other werewolves besides Silas are dead & i’m not sure Silas would be there.
@@storiesbyJTK that was Caleb
The corpse in the lake is that tourist that was killed by one of the werewolves couple months before the summer camp, there is a note about that in the game somewhere
I don't know why he is at the bottom of the lake though