Can cerium oxide fix glass pits or pitted windshield? let's try it

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  • @stefanpuffer
    @stefanpuffer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Glass is hard to polish and from what I understand, cerium oxide is good for polishing out fine scratches. Anything that you can feel with your fingernail won't come out and even with fine scratches it can take hours of polishing with a rayon pad and a DA to get them out. What you did is probably something that any DIY car guy would do...get some compound and put a polishing pad on their drill. Might be good for removing water spots but that's about it. Thanks for posting this video because it helps to set expectations and I think a lot of people have high expectations based on marketing hype of these products. And wow, what a mess! Glad that your wife made it through the sandstorm with just some etched glass. Sandstorms can be very dangerous at times so I'm happy to hear that she's okay obviously since she made it home and at the end of the day that's all that matters.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thank you! I appreciate this comment its exactly what I wanted to show the rest of the DIYers out there so they wouldn't expect a miracle from some powder. She made it thru and didn't even stop the car which is what she should have done just pulled over and wait for it to pass . We learned now 😆 🤣 what to do in these situations.

    • @antasticmessors6073
      @antasticmessors6073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For scratched who you can feel with your finger you'll need sanding paper, when you got out the scratches, THEN you are ready for Cerium Oxide

    • @A7Xdookie
      @A7Xdookie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I saw a glass company use pummace powder first before the cerum oxide

    • @shawnk8685
      @shawnk8685 หลายเดือนก่อน

      thats a whole paragraph to say: sand it first

  • @PandaMan02
    @PandaMan02 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    dual action sander with a really fine grit, 2k or higher, to get the pits out, then use cerium oxide to polish it.

  • @elit3401
    @elit3401 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Good video and effort. Sadly, I have the same problem and will end up replacing the windsheild.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man ya just figured if anyone was in my boat and was planning on trying this stuff just go ahead and skip it

  • @onemischiefmaker7032
    @onemischiefmaker7032 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Pro tip here. I assure you that you can remove the pits. But will it be cost affective to do so apposed to just replacing the windscreen? What you have to do is find out roughly how deep the pits are in microns by the way there is 25,400 microns per inch. Then you will have to use a course abrasive pad and water only as lubrication. Run the entire pitted area and the glass will turn very hazy during this phase. never let the glass get above 200*f degrees . like to maintain between 150*-175* by cooling with water in a spray bottle. Then the next step is to a fine abrasive pad and water. Over run the first area by 2 or 3 inches if possible to avoid noticing ridges on the finished glass but in your case you will be doing the entire windscreen anyhow. The heavy hazy will turn a lot lighter with each abrasive step . The next step is to use a very fine abrasive pad with water only in this step the haze will be very fine. Now in the 2nd phase you use the cerium oxide to polish. If mixing the power I like to see it as thick as yogurt. In this phase the glass heats up quickly still maintain the 150*-175*f ish temperature. This phase will turn the glass crystal clear. It would take me several hours and cost around $100.00 for supplies. It's not really worth doing but it can be done!

    • @HalfEhHackGarage
      @HalfEhHackGarage 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      thank you so much for the info! im going to be trying this on a few of my project cars. buying new glass is not available so i have no other choice! i got some pits on the glass from not being careful enough when grinding, so id like to try and buff them out, at least better than it is. thanks again

    • @HenryPiffpaff
      @HenryPiffpaff หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@HalfEhHackGarageWhat's your experience by now? Did you try it and if so, what abrasive compounda did you use?

  • @IamAli89
    @IamAli89 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Sad to see you didn't succeed, but thanks for showing everyone the reality 😊.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya man it was unfortunate thanks for watching

  • @Costa_del_Artlepool
    @Costa_del_Artlepool 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've bought a VW with 170,000 miles on it. Sweet engine, good bodywork, new-looking interior but it definitely has a 170k windscreen. I cleaned it and cleaned it thinking it was stubborn dirt/sap, and my heart sank a little when it dawned on me that it was thousands of tiny chips and scratches. All signs point to a new windscreen, but it's hard to spend such a lot of money for something that's only a problem when driving toward the low sun.

  • @kevinkieel6778
    @kevinkieel6778 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3m cerium is what you want along with a dual action or at least random orbit polisher (makita or even harbor freights Bauer ) the Bauer 6" is only 100 beans and is actually worth it. You need a speed of 3k with very slow overlapping strokes and decent pressure. Now Griots glass pads work great, but 3m trizact pads are preferred. sand pits at the depth of a grain of sand will not come out. but half depth will and wiper hazing and scratches will vanish. If done right windshield will be less reflective and water will repel better, a result of cerium

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Man im digging your comments it reminds me that sometimes research doesn't make up for experience I appreciate it

    • @davidm3210
      @davidm3210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What type of pad would you recommend for the 3M stuff? I've heard that those glass disks can produce some bad opticals if used improperly. I was able to remove the wiper haze with CeO2 slurry, an orbital & a buffing bonnet turned inside out to the rough fabric side. My orbital crapped out and I tried the same as video w/ same results (or lack thereof). 3" felt wheel -no luck, 6" felt disk skipped all over. I do believe the drill adapter rig is only good for spot removal of scratches.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @David M to be honest my friend you are far ahead of me in these situations I couldn't give sound advice on what works in a particular scenario that's why I tried myself and thsts as far as I got into it.

    • @GlassGenius
      @GlassGenius ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@davidm3210 yeah that's right, cerium can cause distortion. 100% if used incorrectly

  • @StephenJohnson-jb7xe
    @StephenJohnson-jb7xe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I guess if the pitting is deep enough then you would have to remove a lot of glass to polish them out. Also even if the polishing did improve the pitting, if what remained of them has trapped some of the cerium oxide then they would stand out even more so perhaps you need to find a way to clean out the residue trapped in the remaining pits.

  • @demoniodeinframundo2
    @demoniodeinframundo2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in that case, I usually use a sharp razor and a clay bar in order to descontaminate the windshield after polishing with cerium oxide. The success depends on being patient and hard working.

  • @holyterror1966
    @holyterror1966 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Some insurance companies will cover the cost of windshield replacement without a claim or deductible, it can be replaced quickly and easily in your driveway or workplace if there is a chip or crack. I would check into that as well.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pretty much what we had to do

  • @mikef.6216
    @mikef.6216 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for this video, I have to replace all my windows except the rear in my 2018 Camry, paint and headlights are ruined also. Damn sand.

    • @A7Xdookie
      @A7Xdookie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You could sand the headlights using wet and dry go from 240 grit up to 3000 grit and then polish them, they will come up like new

    • @JeffreyBellmore
      @JeffreyBellmore 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Same all 4 windows and windshield

  • @newfinishautospa
    @newfinishautospa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I’ve been able to achieve a visible improvement with the cerium oxide and a DA buffer after going at it for a solid 20 minutes in one spot, but it wasn’t perfect. It would also take at least 2 hours of non-stop buffing to cover the entire windshield, and the putting would only be reduced.

  • @charleshines5700
    @charleshines5700 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are polishes that have the white cerium oxide in them. I used one on my vehicle and it stripped away all of the rain repellants. I didn't even have to use a polisher for this since the windshield is in good condition. If you want that new feel that it has when it left the factory a polish with cerium oxide in it will do that for you. I am not here to promote any product so I am not going to say which one I used. I imagine there must be dozens of polishes that are similar to it anyhow. I can't tell if any work better since I have only tried one brand but I imagine that a more aggressive polish would be for neglected swirly windshields that are ugly and glary at the same time (also unsafe).

  • @dynamotightstar3472
    @dynamotightstar3472 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the vid. I was looking for proof that it works but im happy to know it doesnt and I wont waste my time.
    What others have said about sand paper and heat i dont think Ican botherdd with all that.

  • @ricktipton9563
    @ricktipton9563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Seems to me a round with more course grit would help. You'd scratch the hell out of it with the course and polish it out with increasingly fine grit. I don't see how it could hurt to try.

    • @ronfox5519
      @ronfox5519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could wind up with a messed up windshield. Glass is extremely hard & we are trying to achieve a very high level of polish.

  • @MarcsRandomVids
    @MarcsRandomVids 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm late to the party but cerium isn't coarse enough to remove enough glass to make the surface flat. If you started with a heavier grit to flatten the surface and worked your way up to cerium ox,,,more than likely looking through the windshield would be wavy.

  • @Stephen1455
    @Stephen1455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, exactly!!!! I have the same!!!!

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bro u gotta tell me is there a way to fix it or is it just time to replace?

  • @arontesfay2520
    @arontesfay2520 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You would have removed the pits eventually. it would just have taken a LONNGG TIME. I'm talking hours of polishing a single area. You should have started with a more aggressive glass cutting compound and then finish off with the cerium oxide polishing compound once you got rid of the pits.
    Oh and it's a good idea to cover the paint around the windshield since you're working with an abrasive.

  • @ahmadadam5182
    @ahmadadam5182 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yup those ‘stars’ are hard to impossible to remove and worst part is the cerium oxide will clog them up leaving an uglier visual mess … i know coz ive done it … it was a mess of an attempt … so ive left with two choices … replace the windshield or live with it … i chose the latter … have a nice day bro.

  • @RobbyWorld1
    @RobbyWorld1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. Thanks for posting.

  • @rks911
    @rks911 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    شكراً لك 👍🏽

  • @thomas_Customz
    @thomas_Customz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    First off you should have used a corded drill, and an actual rayon glass polishing pad. Your results would have been significantly better

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Love the enthusiasm but I politely disagree, after talking to actual glazers there is no actual fix to pitting in windows unless u have a flat panel of glass which we know a windshield is not flat unless u have a jeep.....maybe, then u need special equipment to resurface it. This will not do that.

    • @thomas_Customz
      @thomas_Customz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @weekendwrench that is true what u are using will not remove pitting and depending on the depth of the pits you would more than likely end up distorting the windshield trying to remove them. For light scratches and shallow pits, they have glass sanding discs made specifically for this type of work and you follow that up with rayon glass polishing pads or lake country polishing pads with ceriglass or cerium oxide, I've even used hand soap containing hummus and mixed in rubbing compound which works really really well for wiper scratches. My original comment wasn't meant to lead you to think your results would have been a perfect windshield but u would have stood a better chance at getting the shallow pits out after several hours of serious grinding it out. I'm not a professional just sharing my experiences and limited knowledge

  • @zicoballiram7602
    @zicoballiram7602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Looks like you're using a foam pad which is a huge mistake if you are. You need a glass polishing pad which has little to no foam backing. Also, you're using too much water which is heavily diluting/ washing away the paste (which looks to be too thick in the first place). Polish 1/4 of the windshield for about 20-30 minutes straight or even longer with heavy downward pressure to achieve results.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's the glass polishing pad that came with the cerium oxide

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I spent over 1.5 hours with different textures, it can't be too thick and too much water at the same time. Overall I firmly believe cerium oxide helped with scratches and imperfections but not for pits

    • @rtd9153
      @rtd9153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, no. They make foam pads that can be used for heavy cutting to no cutting to anything in-between. He is using to much material. He also needs to work a small area, clean, and then continue working the area until the desired result. The drill isn't sufficient in this case also which is probably a moot point anyhow. I managed a detail business for 14 years and buffed tens of thousands of vehicles, btw. Glass is an entirely different beast though and replacement is typically the only true option.

    • @davidm3210
      @davidm3210 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@weekendwrench Yes, that was the correct felt pad. I'm just a diy'er but I think your effort was sound, just that the pitting was too severe.
      '

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidm3210 exactly 💯

  • @A7Xdookie
    @A7Xdookie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Used cerum oxide got the big scratch barely visible but got lots of swirl marks even after polishing with autoglym glass polish any ideas what steps to do next?

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Replace the windshield

    • @stackmosayless-1669
      @stackmosayless-1669 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What grit abrasive pad did you use?

    • @A7Xdookie
      @A7Xdookie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@stackmosayless-1669 not 100% sure it was the yellow followed by the red cerum oxide and autoglym glass polish afterwards

    • @A7Xdookie
      @A7Xdookie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @weekendwrench window would cost more than the car is worth, besides they are micro swirls just need to figure out tye next step to get those less visible

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@A7Xdookie my man if u figure it out come back here and let us know what u did and what u used

  • @cloudchaser9951
    @cloudchaser9951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi
    so i bought one of those squeegee wipers from dollarama. terrible mistake. i left some scratch marks on the side passenger windows. but not deep enough for you to feel it on your finger nails. u think this product will fix it up?
    thanks

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think this is the perfect application for light scratches

    • @cloudchaser9951
      @cloudchaser9951 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weekendwrench thanks
      is there a grit number for the applicator that youve used or any that you can recommend? thanks

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just a cotton pad that comes with it on Amazon ill try to find a link

    • @cloudchaser9951
      @cloudchaser9951 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@weekendwrench thanksss

  • @Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
    @Rajjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s a good experiment though !

  • @helamanssons1491
    @helamanssons1491 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i know you know this, but glass pitted that much will require a significant amount of surface removal to diminish the pitting to zero. the windshield would be less than oem thickness, which is a concern. because of that, and not being an expert, i'd just replace the pitted windshield, and lovingly tell my wife to not drive in a sandstorm if she didn't have to. visibility is compromised, as well, like with fog or heavy rain, so driving regular speeds is pretty much a no-no. now, you have a dangerous piece of glass windshield that will sparkle up at sunrise/sunset, keeping you from safely viewing the road as you drive.

  • @xeattesa370
    @xeattesa370 ปีที่แล้ว

    xyah pki felt pad polish ke?pki span je dh cukup?

  • @christophergrove4876
    @christophergrove4876 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Grateful for your video, though. I need to watch my dollars, so thank you!!

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Brotha we all do in this economy

  • @crowdsurferx
    @crowdsurferx 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pro Tip from professional detailer. Use a felt pad, you are using a foam pad, that is too soft of a pad for anything. Also the pits might be too deep to be polished out anyway. Might just be better off using comprehensive insurance to replace the glass

  • @SalvadorSTMZ
    @SalvadorSTMZ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine is similiar. Not as bad but maybe 50% there. I think mine is due to ice, since i bought my car from canada.
    What did you end up doing?

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Replaced the windshield brotha it makes no sense to spend 8 to 15 hours and possibly not make any progress when a windshield replacement is about $200 with guaranteed results

    • @Born_Stellar
      @Born_Stellar 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ice wont chip glass, its just rock/sand hits at speed on the highway.
      and its not THAT cold up here!

  • @moldovanucalin8827
    @moldovanucalin8827 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That cerium oxide is only good for removing calcium deposits. For that windshield first you need to sand it with different diamond pads( from ~500 to 1000-1500) and after that the polish

  • @TBAGTOM
    @TBAGTOM ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think a call to your insurance company to have the windshield replaced would have been cheaper and less time consuming. Interesting experiment though.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      For a 500 dollar deductible vs the 24 dollars I spent on product and my own time is my own free time is not worth it and a new windshield was only 230 dollars by itself still not worth the deductible.

  • @safecarsforyou
    @safecarsforyou หลายเดือนก่อน

    You won't be able to get rid of pits, you need to sand to remove some glass material with the sander so that the outer glass surface reaches the depth of the pits. Cerium oxide polish won't help you get rid of pits. It's like taking a sponge bath thinking you will get cleaned up as a shower bath.

  • @kevinkieel6778
    @kevinkieel6778 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you can not correct deep pitting. think your polisher can only correct what it can make contact with... Also that crap you were using is subpar. good cerium oxide is a bit pricey and really works quite well. unfortunately deep pitting is there forever

  • @onepeace2722
    @onepeace2722 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to use corded drill bro + don’t make it dry just keeping put some water

    • @vebez5993
      @vebez5993 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why does it have to be corded?

  • @Unnaymed
    @Unnaymed ปีที่แล้ว

    It's only for optical micro scratch, not for nail scratch.

  • @timmi511
    @timmi511 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m trying to fix my 15 yrs old Windshield came across Cerium and saw your video. I’ll skip it I guess. Thanks for the video.
    By the way, were you able to fix it by any way? Mine has a lot of scratches and it’s quite blurry at night. The lights spread haphazardly all over. Quite disturbing!

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No brother we replaced the windshield

  • @555pontifex
    @555pontifex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    cerium oxide is very fine polishing. Pitting is too deep. You need to take sandpaper to that stuff before bothering with cerium oxide.

  • @BlueMoonVideoProductions
    @BlueMoonVideoProductions ปีที่แล้ว +1

    use 2500 + grit sandpaper

  • @GlassGenius
    @GlassGenius ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's low quality cerium. But even if it was pure, it wouldn't be able to fix the problem in the video. It can also make one hell of a mess if you don't contain the product and mask the car.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Brother you are correct on all accords and it absolutely made a terrible mess.

  • @akbar8427
    @akbar8427 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But those are chips, I don’t think it is supposed to remove anything that aggressive… i bought it for very aggressive watermarks. I hope it will work. If anyone is interested leave a comment in like a month or so because I don’t know how soon I’ll actually do it…

  • @tarellwilliams6925
    @tarellwilliams6925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    boom

  • @ursusskandia
    @ursusskandia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for showing a negative result! The pits are much deeper than wiper scratches and it seems that there is nothing on the market that gets deep enough.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ya man no problem thanks for the comment I know there's a lot of pros out there this was just my experience with it

  • @sezumba07
    @sezumba07 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    😎

  • @rickjames5998
    @rickjames5998 หลายเดือนก่อน

    imagine thinking you can polish glass at home. Love the commenters claiming otherwise

  • @matthiasknutzen6061
    @matthiasknutzen6061 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aluminium oxide cuts harder I think

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe so but this type of work particularly glass is well out of my realm

    • @Two_maligators
      @Two_maligators 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wrong lol

  • @17Peloton
    @17Peloton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tried it. Didn't work

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol can confirm 🤣 what we're u working on?

  • @SniperUSMC
    @SniperUSMC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sound quality is really crap

    • @frankschwartz7405
      @frankschwartz7405 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah, next time he should use a Hollywood sound stage.
      (It's a DIY video)

  • @Eve....747
    @Eve....747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I heard clay bars do the trick.

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean I don't see how clay bar will eliminate the pits if an actual glass abrasive didn't work tho

  • @adinasa8668
    @adinasa8668 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You need to Sand It down first

    • @weekendwrench
      @weekendwrench  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How would I sand glass down? It would turn the glass into just scratches

  • @ValeraT.
    @ValeraT. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How to remove scratches th-cam.com/video/O6_3JEjNeEw/w-d-xo.html

  • @ChrisMcC-j7b
    @ChrisMcC-j7b 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a waste of time

  • @newfinishautospa
    @newfinishautospa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So I’ve been able to achieve a visible improvement with the cerium oxide and a DA buffer after going at it for a solid 20 minutes in one spot, but it wasn’t perfect. It would also take at least 2 hours of non-stop buffing to cover the entire windshield, and the putting would only be reduced.

  • @newfinishautospa
    @newfinishautospa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I’ve been able to achieve a visible improvement with the cerium oxide and a DA buffer after going at it for a solid 20 minutes in one spot, but it wasn’t perfect. It would also take at least 2 hours of non-stop buffing to cover the entire windshield, and the putting would only be reduced.