The Fatal Flaw of Hailey's On It (and Why It's Okay to Not Be "Story Driven")
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- I mean, it's still better than Star vs.
0:00 - Introduction/Why Is This Future Crap Here Again?
4:46 - They Could've Learned From These Shows
6:32 - The Reveal That Killed This Show
10:48 - Oh Dear God, Don't Go Down the Path of Star vs. the Forces of Evil!
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I was just kinda turned off by the fact that the plot is “you have to kiss your friend or else the world will end.”
Right
But you still watched it.
@@0deadx21 Ive littlerly only seen one episode
@@0deadx21 I stopped watching when the love triangle started
Yup. This was a huge reason I felt turned off the show. It completely undermines the consent of both parties, and is just generally kinda gross and violating? Idk.
Someone in the studio decided to take telling a chronically anxious person “it’s not the end of the world!” as a suggestion for a plot.
Just.. a girl with anxiety is being pushed to do things she wants to do but is scared to try- which would be fine if it wasn’t UNDER THREAT OF GLOBAL ANNIHILATION.
Who thought this was a good idea??? It has such an unhealthy subconscious message to just pressure anxious people into doing things
Holy fuck I never realized that before. Now that I think about it more, yeah that is some messed up shit. 😨
Yeah, I always felt off about that that you have to accomplish these tasks with 100% success or the world will end. Weren’t the tasks Hailey made was for her to try them and have fun, not to make the world a better place? But instead, the whole threat of ‘the end of the world’ would make people feel they can’t have fun with the stuff they try because what matters more is success (it’s not always the case).
Dude I just realized that cuz of ur comment 😭like even the random unimportant things on her list will end the world if she doesn’t do them??
Yeah I have anxiety and this is not the best way for anyone with mental health to handle their fears. Because forcing someone to do stuff they r not ready for is not a healthy way to cope and do things. But it dose seem like a cool and interesting concept and artstyle I agree with this
Honestly they should’ve kept the whole “fate of the world” stake as a mid-season or season 1 finale reveal. Let things play out more episodically so Haliey has a reason why she would avoid items like that as she would just think it’s for fun
Last I remember reading, Beta was originally a more minor character but the crew loved how Gary Anthony Williams portrayed him so much that they upgraded Beta to main character status.
Honestly I would too, he’s hilarious! 😂
I would too. I loved gary Anthony Williams in Malcolm and as uncle ruckus in the boondocks 😂😂😂
Beta is pretty much the saving grace. If it was just Hailey and Scott then thered be no one to balance out the awkwardness. Hence why Star and Marco went so 🍐 shaped.
I had my doubts when "will they/Won't they" was woven into the key premise. I may wait in line at a Disney park, but I HATE WAITING WHEN THEY TELEGRAPH THE ENDGAME COUPLE!!
I think Lumity getting together in the middle of s2 made it difficult for me to tolerate WT/WT anymore, because it was fun seeing them as a cute couple.
I honestly would have liked it if S1 had ended with them actually kissing/finishing the whole list, and then wondering "now what?" because the rest of Hailey's steps to success weren't written down.
It’s so funny cus Kim Possible showed that doing WT/WT AND dating can work. They initially didn’t intend for them to date, played around with the idea in later seasons, and then went for it with the finale. But then ppl wanted more, so they actually gave them a whole season as a couple and it was great.
You’d think that ppl who submit shows for Disney would know about KP and that it turned out great (yes I know some ppl didn’t like it and I also wasn’t a fan until I saw how they executed it and it sold me on it). They’d have know about shows like Star vs. and what not and that it can end horribly.
There’s been lots of shows like American Dragon that had endgame couples and broke them apart for different reasons, and they usually worked really well too. But dragging things out artificially sucks.
@@BelBelle468plus with Kim Possible the show didn’t start revolving around Kim and Ron’s relationship - both when it was being teased and when they actually started dating, nor did their characters revolve around each other/they had their own agencies. The show still stuck to its premise, the thing that drew people in, while also having their relationship develop alongside it. Havnet seen Hailey’s on it but the fact the plot kinda hinges on the fact she has to kiss her best friend that she’s crushing on has kinda soured me and a lot of people on it, hell the original pitch title was “I will Not kiss Scott Fenderman”. Star vs also infamously dedicated a lot of time on the Starco ship and the ensuing love triangles, affecting the plot of the show as it drags out and even making the characters unlikeable with how they treat their partners, so by the time they finally got together most people ddint care/were annoyed.
People praise "The Owl House" for featuring a Girl/Girl relationship, but I also appreciate them for having the pair of them get together part way through the story instead of saving their relationship for the tail end of the series. I wish more television writers were willing to actually show us a relationship developing over time.
Yeah the Owl house and Kim Possible are great in not only naturally developing a WT/WT, but also showing the audience the main couples as ACTUAL couples.
The fact that I’ve heard and seen clips of this show and never knew it had a time travel plot says it all honestly
It’s not a story driven cartoon, it’s an episodic cartoon cosplaying as one.
Exactly
God, imagine if the series was just allowed to be itself, and the premise was: “Haley got out of the hospital after a long illness, and now that her life is coming back to normal and readjusting to school life and friend life, she finally has the opportunity to complete her bucket list that she made during her hospital admission.
You have the potential for emotional topics about illness and anxiety and regret and loss (or fear of it). While also having a premise that’s not trying to be too big. It would also allow for all those “Haley’s a social disaster” stories this series was obsessed with because ‘no duh, she spent the better part of X time in a hospital, no wonder she can’t socialise to save her life’.
Pros
- I like Hailey's character design. It's kinda a breath of fresh air from the circly face designs in modern cartoons.
Cons
- Why does nearly everyone else's character design look kitsch or corny. I haven't pinpointed that exact word I wanna express.
- Style and substance feels anemic even if it were live-action.
- The silliest way to use the "save the world" plot device
everyone else just looks a lil weird right? I look at her and im like- yeah ok. Then I look at other characters and I feel like theres smth different
@@olliewithab1926I think the problem with the art style for the rest of the characters is the fact that they are all so inexpressive and they just don't look like they have much going on for them. Something I love about cartoons is the fact that they can make characters expressions/movements really exaggerated for specific scenes, Hailey just doesn't do that. Their movements are just extremely stiff all the time. I also think that the character designs lack personality, like I could not imagine any of these characters living a life outside of what Hailey is doing. And I'm not sure if its just me, but the eyes are unsettling and just look soulless?
This has a very a PBS looking art style
Funny you say that- the random little blond boy who apparently makes dangerous robots in the future gives Tobey McCalister from WordGirl energy lmao
It does have a sort of word girl or maya and Miguel look to it
@@Power11112ikr?
I've never seen this show, so I didn't realize it WASN'T a Pbs Kids show. 😂😂😂
The animation style sadly doesn’t feel like PBS, though.
What bugs me about the whole "Hailey having to kiss Scott" thing is that if it's dragged out to long no one will care when it happens. Plus Hailey getting all hung up on her romantic feelings for Scott is so unnecessary cause as we've seen several times in the show a work around/technicality helps check off items. All she had to do is give Scott a friendly peck on the cheek and it's done.
She could of just fallen on Scott's face on "accident".
Star vs already bungled that, and Miraculous somehow did it even worse. This show was doomed the second they put that premise in.
Hailey Wasn't On It for you
This show might have worked if they went the 'Doug' Route of being a grounded show about a girl trying to overcome her indecisiveness via imagination herself in alternate fictional scenarios but overthinks her problems as a simple solution that requires stepping out of her comfort zone at her pace would be the answer.
As someone who is a huge fan of Disney show like Amphibia and Gravity Falls, I got say say
“Hailey’s on it” is probably one of the most mediocre story driven show Disney has ever come up with
It felt like I was watching one of those godawful Disney Channel sitcoms if they were animated
OH MY GOD I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THE FUTURE LADY IS HAILEY.. I literally have never watched a single episode but solely from the ads I knew.. I just had a feeling! I’m so glad I’m not the only one lol
i think its hailey and scott kid (its why they need to be together)
Initially I thought so too but further studying her features I think if anything she’s Hailey and Scott’s daughter
@@MouetteRoquefort Is disney really going to do the they need to be together crap cause it doesn’t work look at Star vs the forces of evil
i had no idea it wasn't supposed to be obvious up until now lmao. i've never seen the show so i assumed it was just stated to be future hailey
I was turned off from watching the show was the fact the plot was about fulfilling a future.
I believe your future is what you make of it. But this entire series is about fulfilling it.
Same, it felt like the whole point was for them to kiss, nothing more.
Those aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.
Yeah, I kinda enjoyed what I've seen so far of Hailey's On It, some likable characters (Hailey, Scott, Beta, Kristine and Becker are my faves), a handful of funny moments, but yeah, it ain't a masterpiece by ANY means. As fun as the story can be in places, some of the plot elements like the tasks in Hailey's journal can feel pretty flimsy. It doesn't have the clever formula-driven humour of Phineas & Ferb, the story-tightness and effective stakes of Gravity Falls, Amphibia and Owl House, the sense of energetic slice-of-life fun of Big City Greens or the sensitivity and nuance of topics that The Ghost & Molly McGee surprised us with despite being a mostly episodic and bouncy fun supernatural musical comedy. (And don't even get me started on the modern Marvel masterpiece that is Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur. Anyone who hasn't watched that yet is missing out BIG TIME!)
Overall, for me, an okay show, just not one that will be talked about a lot down the line like its contemporaries still are after their endings.
Does moon girl have story? I wanna watch it, but usually I only watch shows with story because it feels fulfilling :)
@@TheDeerBird Oh, it's got PLENTY of it.
@@VigilanteLulu AMAZING
@@TheDeerBirdyup it’s pretty good I’d recommend giving it a watch when you can; plus the animation is extremely insane
Chances are, the sitcom thing was probably put in to satisfy Disney's wants.
I find myself kind of a fan of the series, aaaaand I agree with pretty much everything you said about it’s odd tone and implementation of certain elements. The fantastical time travel stuff feels like a convoluted excuse to jumpstart Hailey’s adventure. Besides Beta, who isn’t that integral, the sci fi stuff just kinda disappears for most of the show, coming back at random, out of place times.
The whole series works for me when it leans into being a grounded sitcom. I found the characters fairly relatable to people I know, the stories were fun, the humor surprisingly was to my personal taste, etc. I just wish it wasn’t being intruded on by this looming “end of the world” conflict, bringing in stakes that don’t belong in a show with this vibe and tone.
Wouldn’t it have been more fitting if Haily was doing her list items out of mundane reasons? Like … … I don’t know, her family was moving in a year, so she wanted to complete as much as she could in her home with her friends before she had to go? Maybe Haily had a particularly bad experience with anxiety (panic attack?), resulting in her desperately doing all her list items to brute force herself into a more confident, stronger person. Maybe you could make a point about how mental health takes time, with her list being a coping mechanism as much as a challenge. The end of the series would be her accepting professional help, of something. Heck, Haily doing the list could just be motivated by the idea she’s somehow destined for greatness. Future her would be a figment of her wild imagination, who she wants to make proud. I mean, haven’t we all thought about how our future selves would be grateful for the choices we made now? The whole idea of Haily saving the world is just something caused by the same anxiety young people feel. Ya know, about how it’s up to them and only them to prevent a climate change based global disaster (I like the idea of this version making the point that one person alone isn’t going to fix climate change. The fact that this serious issue is completely solved in the official version of the series is kinda gross). I just like the idea of Haily doing the list items out of her own character defining choices, and perhaps, even flawed thinking. What do you think?
You cooked a five course meal
Gravity Falls was a pandora's box for western animation. Can't do episodic shows anymore, need a long running gimmick to string viewers all season.
Amphibia says hi
I really think the show had potential but there are big issues.
1. It has a really unappealing art style
2. It should have been a little more episodic
3. Why is there shipping stuff?
My theory for this show is the CHAOS in Chaos-bots actually stands for something like: Central High Authority Of Space-time (basically a variant of the TVA). What if the professor is actually from a different future where Hailey didn't complete her list? This way the bots wouldn't be trying to stop Hailey to destroy the future, but restore it to whatever apocalyptic way it was supposed to play out.
Would adding a multiverse element to the already ambiguous time travel premise make up for the show's weak elements?
I remember watching Wish amd thinking, "I think Walt Disney Animation's revival era formula has finally turned against them", and that was coming from a guy who loved their films from 2009-2016 (and Encanto). And I then thought "at least their TV Animation division is going stong". This show makes me question that. What this show doesn't seem to realize is that Phineas and Ferb, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star VS The Forces of Evil (the good parts at least), Milo Murphy's Law, DuckTales 2017, Amphibia, Big City Greens, The Owl House, The Ghost and Molly McGee, and Moongirl and Devil Dinosaur aren't just driven by their stories, their continuity, their fantastical imagination, or their humor. Those are part of it, but, IMO, they would be nothing without their characters. All of the former stuff just helps develop them. And you can't have a character driven show that's also reliant on a big story and world if the main character isn't motivated by something personal. that's why I and so many others had the same headcanon as you. Like Eda said, "if we all waited around for a prophecy to make us special, we'd die waiting. And that's why you need to choose yourself."
Choose yourself. Those two words are the main reason why these crazy adventures don't clash with these fun comedies. The main characters CHOOSE to go one them. Luz CHOSE to stay in the Demon Realm and become a witch, Dipper CHOSE to figure out the mysteries of Gravity Falls, Marcy CHOSE to get herself and her friends stuck in Amphibia, Molly CHOSE to befriend a ghost, Wander CHOOSES to help people and try to befriend and diagnose villains, Phineas and Ferb CHOOSE to crazy projects, Cricket CHOOSES to act out, etc. All the crazy events in these show happen because the protagonists CHOOSE to do something. And the adventures their choices result in help them grow and develop as a result. The same thing goes for the romance. Luz and Amity chose to get together. Isabella chose to have a crush on Phineas. Candace chose to crush on Jeremy. Molly and Ollie chose to get together. And the reasoning behind all of it gave them great chemistry. One of the big reasons Starco was eventually hated was becauee it was literally forced onto Star and Marco. The only reason why Hailey wants to finish this childhood bucket list, is because some random lady from the future told her if she didn't fulfill it, the world will end. For all we know, she forgot about that checklist along time ago and got over her crush on Scott! So, yeah, the only way this could have worked for me is if the lady WAS a future version of Hailey, and this whole thing was a ruze for her to have actual goals in her life, because she becomes an unmotivated loser who grew apart from her best friend because she never got ober or told him how she felt about him. I'd go so far as to say a line like "I only told you the world will end because I knew you wouldn't be motivated otherwise, okay?!" might actually cut deep for a lot of people. Otherwise, what's this supposed to teach kids? Have goals, or the world would end? No! Have goals, or you're life will be meaningless!
You can have a comedy with continuity or an ongoing story or continuity. You can have a comedy with fantastical elements. But what's the point when it doesn't fit your characters or themes?
Dude how long did this take you to type
@@kingofdemons948 about 30 minutes
Dang I think you hit the nail on why Hailey’s On It doesn’t feel like it works as well as the other Disney TVA shows in terms of its plot. Like for real, Hailey only being motivated to do all of these things just because the fate of the world is put on her makes her character growth feel off and not earn out of truly wanting to improve herself or change. I mean judging from what I heard with the S1 finale, perhaps they could go in a direction of Hailey doing stuff she wouldn’t have before out of just for herself and not the list…..but now she’s going to look selfish for not wanting to do the list now since that stuff being done dictates the world being saved or destroyed. Only way they could come back from this is if they make Hailey be able to change the future to prevent the bad outcome without having to do the tasks from the list.
What do you mean by the Revival era formula turning against them?
In other words, strong character is central for a story.
The show should have taken notes from Phineas and Ferb.
Let the charming mascot have the world saving adventure that only occasionally intersects with the protagonist narrative.
Maybe if Hailey were largely sheltered from the serious consequences, (she IS just a child) the overall narrative tension would feel more genuine?
Make her think she has a sort of future robot fairy godfather, only for her to find out that, no, the apocalypse is coming and she NEEDS to get her shit together.
This structure would make it much more closely reflect, say, The Owl House or Amphibia, but without sacrificing too much of the core of the show.
Or maybe not. I kinda like the idea of Beta going off and fighting chaos bots on his own as a lil, hyper-competent guy while the kids act like silly kids. The show isn't bad at all, just soooo all over the place and would need some fundamental restructure to be a Truly Great show. (And not really my thing, but I can't hold that against it)
I don’t understand why people find the show to look ugly, it not as bad as other shows like pickle and peanut, or Pen zero( which I grew to liking it). I’m glad it isn’t a story driven show because my mind kind of goes nuts for story driven shows, and I can’t tolerate the wait for the next episode. Plus not everything needs to be plot driven. Sometimes it better to have a collection of stories with a good continuity than to have an over arcing story that dictate to end the show because there no way to continue a show once the arc is done because the show can’t go beyond the arc or it would be a spin off.
I think people calling it ugly is less that the actual art style is ugly and more that it’s kind of a bland art style with stiff animation and those things combined make it look ugly in comparison to if it were just a still image, that’s how i feel about it anyway
@@mexvex565
this.
I personally have antaphasia (no mind's eye) and my memory is thus spatial. Stiff, flat animation that takes little shortcuts ALL THE TIME can feel like some real bone breaking stuff.
HOI isn't that bad really, but its a noticeable stepdown from a lot of recent disney cartoons which can't wait to pop the Sokuga moments, or even Ducktales, which IMO had ugly designs, but used said ugly, simple designs as a catalyst to enable soooo much hand drawn goodness. (It was glorious)
I don't wanna be a hater but... I also found the art style kinda ugly 😬 Just another reason why I never clicked with the show. Moon Girl, Molly McGee, and Kiff I found far more enjoyable.
it is super ugly looking
@@NakanoMiku-chan-z2m No, it isnt.
Moon girl is like a walking piece of art that should be framed in a comic museum. This show wouldn’t even reach its feet. The creators of moon girl gave it their soul, heart and life to the show and is clear when you see it
I'm with that. I feel some of the character designs clash with each other. It's too distracting for me.
I think an even bigger problem with this show was how it desperately tried to imitate the humor from Phineas and Ferb, but it just ultimately came off as a somewhat successor to Ben 10 2017. Remember how that show shoehorned Vilgax in the season 1 finale as some big serious threat despite the entire show just being about Ben and family going on wacky expeditions doing obnoxious monster faces? It's kinda like that with this show.
Finding out it has a high stakes serious on going doomsday plot made go from curious about checking it out to kinda not wanting to anymore. I wish it was just a goofy but grounded episodic animated sitcom about a nervous girl fulfilling a bucket list lol.
I hate hate HATE will they won’t they plots. It’s just a matter of time until they finally become a couple, but that time waiting is so frequently a waste. What should be happening is the characters relationship progresses to different stages over time, we get to see them grow closer, being out there best in each other, etc., but will they won’t they depends on a lack of progression and sometimes just rocketing people back to the start. It’s not a slow burn if someone keeps blowing the freaking candle out every time you try to light it. Worst of all, sometimes an alternate couple they throw in to push the two apart is actually much more interesting and cuter than the one the show is pushing, but they can’t be a couple because the writer has obviously already picked their endgame.
Just let them be a couple, and if they drift apart make it happen for actual character arc reasons, and don’t feel obligated to just make them the endgame pairing because it’s what’s easiest. Especially because most people don’t have a long-term committed relationship for their first couple, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with showing two people trying to date then realizing they are better as friends. Hailey’s checklist doesn’t even require her to date Scott! They just have to kiss once! One time! I know it’s embarrassing and she’s filled with anxiety about it, but girl the world is gonna end just tell him that’s the case and get it out of the way. When the entire fate of world hangs on one awkward moment, I think you can sacrifice that. The sci-fi plot adds too many stakes to this one relationship to the point where what should be a very personal emotional journey is just part of a checklist.
Personally I think it would probably be a bit more bearable if Hailey and Scott simply just stayed friends throughout the entire series with no romantic feelings for one another whatsoever. It can teach viewers that guys and girls can be best friends without any romantic undertones.
Maybe have some reoccurring characters to be Hailey and Scott’s love interests so that the romance elements don’t overstay their welcome
Hailey's On It was just bad, for me. I hadn't fully watched the episodes, but I had this itch that occured every time I saw this "Future Lady". The source that I'm basing it comes from Ben 10 Omniverse, of all places. In one episode, it reveals a mysterious boy from the future, played by the same person as Robin from Teen Titans, claims he is the son of Ben and the girl that liked Blitzwolfer, a werewolf looking alien that Ben could turn into since the first Ben 10 show. I keep seeing this "Future Lady" as the daughter of both Hailey and that crush of hers. The problem I have is the writers forces two characters, whom are minors, to "just kiss already", by using a future relative as a mouth piece. Not only that, but also have galaxy ending consequences because "Butterfly Effect" being the only explanation given.
It is literally Phineas and Ferb alpha 2. Hailey is the to do list of the day show but instead of Phineas and Isabella it’s her best friend almost like a brother, one is get it over with and one is comedic wait till the ending. Just wait till Disney tries to make a movie or special when Hailey haves to complete the list before time runs out and it becomes a summer belongs to you but with how fast they can finish completing her list. (Also waiting for oh no they destroyed the book and the only thing left on that list I truly wanted to complete was to kiss/go out with Scott.)
I skipped this show because
1. it is ugly
2. the shipping of the two leads. I already had a bad enough experience with starco shippers, lumity shippers, and steven universe fans ( just in general for that last one )
I agree with both
@@Universally2 No, you DISagree with the first. I'll give you the second, though.
Calling it ugly is a bit far imo, the shows no holy grail of art but it looks fine. The second point is only based if someone has interacted with the shippers/fandom, it's not really a criticism founded on the show.
Haileys on it isnt even ugly. I seen uglier cartoons
I don’t think the art style is ugly. But it does feel boring… like not interesting at least.
Recently, i've been iffy about shows that have this basic premise whose purpose is to glue in the audience and hope that they get invested enough to when the show inevitably gets canceled, they're will be enough outrage to pressure the studio to make a renewal/continuation.
This is especially egregious with shows with "hidden lore" that feels like a cheap tactic to get the lore nerds invested in piecing together a backstory that's generally irrelevant to the whole plot.
Great video! Thank you
i notice the show is reaallyyyy good at not letting the romance get in the way of the plot. as in there is NO romance. the conflict of her having to kiss scott feels pointless because it doesn’t feel like she likes him at all in the first place 😭
I always had a theory that the future professor was evil. Just thought it would be a nice twist.
Yeah... even as someone who enjoys this show, I agree that the time travel plot is completely unnecessary. This show basically has the same problem as _The Mitchells vs. the Machines,_ where it combines a simple slice-of-life plot with a larger sci-fi plot, both of which would be fine on their own, but don't exactly gel that well. But even _The Mitchells_ did it better, though that could be because it's a movie, and has the advantage of being able to wrap things up in an hour and a half.
This is so funny to me, because I legit caught an episode of this show randomly on TV last year, I think it was an episode that featured a fashion show(?), I legit had no idea there were Scifi elements until watching this video...
The bitmoji show.
Commenting for the algorithm! This video is extremely well-done. I watched the pilot when it aired on Disney Channel and found it… obnoxious. I thought the style was cute enough but the aesthetic just does nothing for me. It feels bland.
I just gotta say that within the first 40 seconds you sold me on a show whose concept as described in ads were a complete turn off.
Idk whether or not the stuff mentioned in those ads are actually in the show and why you didn’t end up liking it (I’ll have to finish the show to find out), but you’re totally right in that it sounds like a great premise.
I guess I’ll reply to this comment once I see what the issues were and if those issues were the same reasons I didn’t watch it.
Ok so it turns out the issue IS similar to why I didn’t bother with it. It felt like Star vs. redone. Contrary to other ppl, I don’t think Star handled its story or characters well.
Star never felt like she was changing. I dropped the show once I realized she was always going to be the selfish and inconsiderate Mary Sue whose story bent over backwards to justify her. The slice of life elements ruining the show in regards to her never improving or treating even serious things like a joke was present throughout the whole show. And the dragged on romance without consent (Blood Moon) sucked.
Seems like all those issues are present in this show too. Instead of a slice of life where a girl needs to learn to fit in as a regular person on earth, we’ve got a girl who needs to learn to be more adventurous. That slow change could’ve worked for Haley’s on it. But it didn’t, and Star vs. failed as well.
your channel seems cool, Imma sub
This show reminds me a lot of a pilot episode I saw on some streaming network for free. I can’t remember the name, but the premise was that this scientist from the future sent his robot (and himself or maybe a hologram) back to his past to teach his younger self to be a kinder person who can do all of the things his future self couldn’t, like forming a healthy relationship with his sister. Does anyone know the name of the show I’m talking about?
this sort of sounds like Doraemon but I’m not too sure
@@audiovisualcringe no, but that actually is pretty close to the plot too. It was a newer show.
Saving Me?
@@BluffsCastle Yes! That’s the one, thank you!!!
I can’t believe I’m saying this but this is probably one of these types shows where I probably wouldn’t mind it not being story driven and taking the episodic route
I think a premise like this can create all sorts of interesting, fun and creative tasks that she can do. Enough where this series would last around over 100 episodes or so.
Though if we were to take a story driven route, here’s some problems I have. They set up a plot point what could’ve been a really interested and sometimes even useful concept only for it to be dropped for the sake of a cheap gag. If you have a fan, follow the plan and stick to the plan and go all in at 100 percent.
that was the vibe I got from the trailers when it came out. it just felt like two incompatible puzzle pieces
i still hope we get a season 2
I don't see how this show has viewer, no offense to the creators, but I found this show to be really boring, the shows just repeat the same 1 or 2 jokes every episode, and the plot just goes nowhere
Um... isnt there already a show like that? Its a kid that runs into his future self. His future self is a scientist/time traveler and the end of the world is a real thing??
Edit: The show is called "Saving Me". I forgot the name my bad. But yeah. His future self and him got into hi-jinks
Second edit: lol. Isnt this just a copy of it of that but with girls instead of boys?
The letters on the thumbnail are hard to see. Can you try a different color?
It has flaws, okay. But it’s not career ending
Unrelated but I miss sitcoms and nowadays I see cartoons more than sitcoms which is weird tho
Despite the show’s lighthearted tone, I actually saw almost every episode as a high stakes situation. I feel that the insane concept of “do this thing or world on fire” works for me as I’m always wanting to know how Hailey completes a list item. And the whole kissing Scott plot line didn’t really bother me as I feel that the ways they were delayed felt realistic to Hailey’s character, such as when she threw Scott’s phone on the ground to be crushed by the crop machine just so he wouldn’t hear her confession that she recorded when she thought she would die.
Edit: Ok so nobody here agrees with me. That’s fine, I still stand by my opinion 🤷🏾♂️
I was in the hospital a few months ago and judging from The two episodes that I watched of Hayleys on it, it was mediocre at best. I preferred watching hamster and gretel
I've never watched this show even once, i only saw like a compilation of random clips from it. And I already could tell by the dialogue and animation that it was lame. But i had no idea there was time travel involved lol
I can relate to you all too much
And the winner of going from best to worst (best means bob's burgers and worst means some other animated series on netflix) is fox's the critic
I think of Scott as Dwight schrute
They might make season 2 after Moana 2
That's tphe reveal that killed the show? I've known that since the sand castle episode. (What really killed the show was not being an instant hit after one episode.)
this show deserves a distractingly mediocre out of 10
I enjoy the show. I don't _love_ the show, but I enjoy it. I don't disagree with anything you said, though. The "future is in danger" plot _does_ feel tacked on, and I often tend to forget that's a thing.
As for the high points, Becker. Becker is always a high point when she appears. 😊
my mom and i started watching it together and we both actually enjoy it but its one of those shows to us thats almost like miraculous. it aint actually good but it has its moments
I've always seen "story driven" narratives, as stuff happening in more than one episode, the worldbuilding is incidental. I think Hailey blew its load too early, and "story driven" shows don't have to be this friggin' complex to understand and get down. Even Avatar was episodic with hints of progression. No really, every episode had a "PREVIOUSLY ON AVATAR" so you won't feel lost watching the episode that came on that day, so in my eyes, that's episodic
It had potential 😭
I dont even interested in the show and found out your channel... so... great video
It's a constant frustration I have these days where nothing is allowed to just be a simple slice of life story anymore. I remember this with Mitchell's VS the machines, it's like they think audiences don't WANT anything that isn't like, a super, grandiose spectacle with epic scenes and action. Slice of life concepts are poorly scotch taped together with sci-fi epic concepts that take over with no correlation between the two. The best part was when the Mitchell's were just being a family on their road trip, and the best part of this is when Haley is just being a normal girl dealing with anxiety related issues.
The thing that baffles me the most about this is that, general audiences seem to like the shipping and angst and simple character interactions more than the stories. I remember every time a new Amphibia or Owl House episode would air, it would be everyone gushing and fangasming over the character interactions and shipping, NEVER did I see anyone discussing the actual plots or concepts of these shows unless it was related to the character interactions.
Please, just let slice of life shows be slice of life. Let them be simple. There is an audience for it, I promise.
Some people are saying there is a love triangle I didn’t know about that I was just tuning in on disney channel and Disney XD and randomly found this series so I tuned in and found it fun to watch until I saw the comments saying there is a love triangle
How did Patricia reacted when Hailey was with Sanjay
At firts glace i woun't thought this show was story driven, it seems somethig more simple
as a fan of HOI, I feel like Hailey needs more character development in season 2. if we ever get updates on it, maybe I'll start watching it more if it has genuine, actual lore.
When I saw the show (I haven’t watched more than 2 minutes of an episode), I actually searched up what the show was about and then when I saw these people need to kiss or everything is gonna die I did not watch any longer
i think it definitely has a lot of potential. it’s average now, but since it’s so new i believe it can be one of the good shows
Well the show got made and that is something you can say.
(Aftermath)
(Knocking on ac door ac opens it and it was Scott)
Ac-oh denoga what a surprise wasn’t expecting you to drop by
(Scott shows ac beta)
Ac-what a cute little bear plush doll what you came over to my house just to show me what you have ever since Hailey banks friend zoned you
Beta-I’m not a plush doll you well proper buffoon
Ac-what the beans it’s alive and it talk
Beta-I do more than just talk I’m from the future
Ac-what is this some sort of joke
Scott-you tell us chaos bot creator
(Presses beta chest but it was the I wuv you button)
Scott-oops wrong button sorry beta
(Presses the left side of his chest shows a projections of ac creating the chaos bots in the future)
Scott-well look at that looks like you’ve been doing some hard work since your hands are dirty
Ac-oh this I was uh uh uh fixing my bike yeah yeah the chain popped off so I thought I can put it back instead of going to a bike store to get it fix
Scott-what’s that
(Scott looks at the table sees a robot and it appears to be Sanjay who was a robot the whole time but in pieces)
Scott-oh my gosh ac killed Sanjay that means I have a chance with Hailey
Beta-no you buffoon he built this and I think I know why you built a robot human just so Hailey could fall in love with instead of her actually true love so the world would come to an end not if we have a say in this
(Ac glares dastardly)
Ac-come on Scott we gotta tell Hailey what’s going on
(Ac pulls out his taser a threatens to zap beta and Scott)
Ac-not so fast you meddlers drop the robot head
(Scott drops the Sanjay head)
Ac-hands up both of you
(Both have their hands up)
Ac-not kick the head over to me
(Scott kicks the head over to ac)
It’s bad wen chikn nugget the indie cartoon that consist of SHORTS THAT USUALLY DOESN’T LAST’s HALF AN MINUTE does an more solid job of doing an story driven show than this one
Why tf do you sound like saberspark lol
Heres a dumb idea. Why not just make her future fake??? Like an imaginary friend.
Make her future self a figment of her imagination. Hailey is an awkward kid so why not make her "future self" a more idealized version of herself. Or at least what she considers her "best self".
By making her future self function more like an imaginary friend that Haileys mind came up with, HAILEY can be explored as a character.
What does she like about herself? What doesnt she like about her self?
What does she have to change about herself?
Does she even need changing?
Is this good for her?
Or is this unhealthy?
Her "future self" could be used to explore her own ideas about herself, how she sees herself an about how others see her and blah blah blah.
It wouldnt be so much a devil or angel on her shoulder. Its just a kid trying to figure out who she wants to be and trying to figure herself out.
If it were done well it could really open her up and confront certain insecurities she has about herself and other such problems.
Anyway thats just my two cents. Take the time travel out of it and make it about a young kid trying to figure things out through her "imaginary friend" that is made up of her own self image, desires and insecurities.
Hell Ben 10’s more serialised than this, and that there was a big story going on in the background for each season. Each episode was like a level in a game that builds up to the final battle
>Tfw Saving Me has a better written plot about time travel than Hailey's on it
I kid, I haven't seen the show, just clips, but the clips show the past affecting the future, they change perspectives of the present and future from time to time
If you haven't heard of Saving Me, I get it. I only heard about it from TH-cam ads and it's kinda a Christian cartoon since it was on a Christian streaming service, but shit, maybe it's Hailey's on it done right, and I think that's funny.
Bargain bin saving me
I personally didn’t really care for the show aside from a few enjoyable elements here and there. The finale frustrated me more than anything (not a big fan of will they/wont they romances in media)
I personally still like this show. I enjoy watching it with my sister and that's enough for me. I like the characters and their interactions. But since you did point it out, them wanting to push a narrative but actively not doing it is pretty dumb. I also never really liked the "will they won't they" trope. Just in general though, so it's not enough to turn off the show for me. I still really like it though.
Bailey's on ir is a good cartoon, done right
Maye it was supposed to be a slice of life show, but Disney mandates epic shit
Agreed.
I've only seen a few episodes, and it just left me with a "meh". The whole future depends on the list thing was pulled right out of the gate and I honestly forgot it was a plotline. They should have pulled it out at the last second to raise the stakes a bit, and have Hailey willing to complete the list because she wanted to. The whole kiss your best friend thing felt unnecessarly outdated and forced. I'm actually cool with Hailey and Scott's platonic friendship dynamic. Remember how Svtfoe went? First it was about fighting monsters, then a past queen shunned and hated for falling in love with a guy no one approved and wanting equality, then the show became about abolishing racism. Yet they keep dragging out this will they or won't thing, similar to another awful show about shipping. (Mlb)
Idk, I am following this series because the protagonist looks like a crush I had
You have the right to your own opinion about this show don't let the people in the comments put you down if you like this show that's completely ok it's a harmless simple show for me so i see no problem with it i dunno why everyone is so pissed about it
I wasn’t into this show when the first trailer dropped as it was trying way too hard to be “cool” and “extreme”. The humor wasn’t funny or thought provoking. The characters are all hackneyed and forgettable. And the story is just lame and forgettable. It’s trying to be a Disney version of Rick and Morty with the whole time traveling, science techno babble and meta humor.
The kiss the best friend thing would have been tolerable if the point was she does it in episode 1 just to get it over with and either he is now conflicted when she isn’t about it cause he has a girlfriend or they are clearly best friends with no romantic interest in one another trying to make it work.
Instead it’s this dumb carrot that is seemingly more and more the entire actual thing she needs to do making the villain lamer whoever they end up being
This why like watching anime shonen jump series that is how way long season
This show should've just gone went the full Komi san route
Your complaints may suffer the same issue as many early better call saul complaints. Its season 1. Potentially the lack of focus on the future, timetravel and chaos bots is to subvert our expectations in Season 3. Like Amphibia. Only time will tell.
This show was doomed from the start. The second you go for the will they/won't they plot (especially as your main setting), that's not a good sign.
This show has fans?
I mean yeah, What did you expect? This isn’t even the worst show produced in the world.
If this an indie animation, people would easily bash it on it and prob left it to rot. Since it’s in Disney, It had a more forgiving audience and this will of course able to build a fanbase.
This thing would’ve died out so quickly if it is an indie animated series.
I’m pretty sure there is far worse shows that has been ever produced compared to this. The ratings in IMDB is comparable to Kiff and it basically shows it really isnt the worst show by far.
@@noobishnubreal True, but i didn’t say it was the worst, well not by far.
@@noobishnubreal Wow. genuinely impressed really. it isn’t for me, no wonder, so i should say that.
Honestly? This show is really boring for me. I don’t see it as a complete picture, but more like fragments of cliché stories that don’t amuse me in any shape or form.
Also have you seen the pitching bible of the show? It’s insane, quote: “is a fast-paced comedy-first, animated series with heart - think RICK & MORTY meets PHINEAS & FERB with a dash of KIM POSSIBLE thrown in.” My jaw literally dropped like how it was green-lighted is beyond my understanding.
you think she's Haley? She is, she confirms it in multiple episodes.
Damn… I always just avoided this show bc I thought it looked ugly. Looks like I didn’t miss out on much haha
I initially wanted to watch this show just to relax and have a nice experience watching a slice of life Disney show, I never imagined time travel was remotely related to the show's plot at all.
(Same with Scott, I thought he was Hailey's brother at first, but he's actually her love interest? Yeah... I haven't seen the show and it's already lost me)
I can’t stand this show lol I turn it off everytime it comes on. I think the main characters are way too cringe