I had a custom fitting. It was a great sales pitch! I gained 20 yards distance between 6-irons from mine (32-degrees) versus new (24-degrees). I couldn't wait to get the fitted clubs. Then I started looking at what I "got sold." I paid 163% more for the same clubs (including shafts) than if I had ordered directly from the manufacturer's website--not to mention they were the second most expensive clubs they could sell me! I figured out the loft difference and realized that there was no effective gain against my 24-degree 4-iron. Yep, I GOT SOLD! Everybody says, "Go get fit," but if you are not working in the industry it's more likely you will "get sold" too.
Sure you're in the majority. Fitting is a by and large a scam, another word for a hard sales pitch. I've been advised GI clubs and hand made Japanese forged at two different fitters in the space of two weeks. They either haven't got a clue or just don't care - or both. Bottom line is that pro golfers have got absolutely no interest in anyone with a handicap over 5, they are lower life to them, just a means of making some money. A good idea is to get your numbers from a paid fitting and then put your bag together yourself via eBay/used/second hand and find a guy at the range to tweak them for you. Quite enjoyable once you get into it..
Hannah, I love your content and really enjoy your insights, style and off course laughter. So nothing disrespectfull: but you live in another world with your talent, swing and age. You live in another world with the quality and attention you get from brands, fitters and pro's working with you. Sure you will benefit, improve and profit, if only incremental and based on the performance and caracteristics of your swing on that day. However.... In our world, the 10 t0 20 hc we get to fit max 3 heads, 2 or 3 shafts and within an hour or so we are sold the dream. I have been fitted 65, 85 grams shafts and 105 gram shafts for irons, regular and stiff, CB's, hollow bodys and distance clubs all in the span of a few months. Only by buying second hand sets and loose shafts (FW/D/Hybrid) and trying these in real life situations on course, not on a DR mat only (mats kill your swing anyway) I figured out what suited me best. Yes it looks more expensive, but selling not performing gear, usualy with no or minor loss is much chaeper than buying the dreamset for £ 1500, - thats not performing or disappoining.
One consideration is whether your swing is repeatable. I have had a few fittings and decided that i had to do something about my swing fundamentals first because my swing variations negated a good recommendation. So I agreed with my pro to take lessons every 8 weeks and get consistent. I then got fitted, again, and the recommendation was quite different and far better.
I’ve had fittings at American Golf and they’ve always used the range balls. I noticed the guy in the video avoided the question “does AG use different brand balls for a fitting “ His answer was “yes, no”. Then he explained that the technology in balls has improved over last 5 years.
When I've been fitted at AG, I always take a sleeve of my balls with me, Srixon AD333 or TM Soft Response. They will let you use them, and you will get truer results than using a Pro V1 or TP5
I do like the video, but it would be nice to see a high handicaper go through a fitting and see what kind of improvement they get. Seeing a scratch golfer get fit doesn’t really translate to someone that hits it fat most of the time. I’m not trying to hate on the video. I’m finally going to bite the bullet and spend the money and go get fit for new clubs. Very curious to see what clubs that fit me could do.
Ego: 100% ! I have played golf since 1997, and I have seen SO many guys that want "tour blades"... they need to "shape their shots" and stuff like that ... and yes; they really shaps theirs shots (slice or hook).... I think that 90% of the guys I have met (in this category) would be scoring lower with more forgiving clubs... if not more.... I was at a fitting not long ago; and he asked me what I was thinking regarding "type" of clubs and shafts: And I just said: I don't care: what ever is best for me.... and he said "thank goodness...", and we had a chat about, espessially guys", that came in and "know" before the fitting that they HAVE TO HAVE xtra stiff shafts (or whatever), and it is a struggel when they actually have a regular swing.
Hi Hannah...lots to think about from this video...I was lucky to have a fitting at Scottsdale Golf and to their credit the fitter did ask me most of the topics you mention. I have ended up with a blended bag of clubs from different manufacturers.. great video
I like the guy saying 4-6 degree gap...I had my custom fit irons spaced at 6 degrees as decided 15-18 yards per mid range club was plenty accurate for me! allowed me to get two options at each yardage between 200-230yards with a mixture of irons, hybrids and fairway woods. I do get comments on having so many head covers in the bag though!
Thanks Hannah. This put some of my concerns to rest. I'm really thinking about saving up and getting a driver fitting. I currently have a Mavrik that I just can't seem to hit well, even after tinkering with the settings on it.
I'm starting to feel like a stalker, but I really enjoyed this video. I'm on the fence about getting a custom fit set, but I do have a lot of love for my 13 year standard G10 irons. I'll defo consider getting fit now, but I need to think about where I'm at with my irons at the moment. Cheers Hannah!
Went for fitting at American Golf. Rubbish. Dint check my height, or hand size. I’m short with small hands. Don’t check existing length of my clubs. They are short. Dint listen to my budget. I wanted an iron set and drive for max £1000. He was saying the starting price would be £1400. Was a complete waste of all our time
Single digit player and I've gone 9 wood and 7 wood. So much better so far. Was too inconsistent with hybrids and long irons. Ball flight is a bit high, but X shaft keeps ball flight a bit more penatraty 😅
nothing wrong with that! I have hybrids, long irons and 7 wood (no 9 wood!) for options at the top end. Find it so much easier to soften a short iron shot so maximised options at the top end instead! Ultimately, what works for you is the right answer!
Sounds like there have been a few ... less than good experiences with club fittings. If you find yourself in OKC, you should check out Ball Golf. I had a great experience (fall 2021) and love my clubs (G425s). Hannah, when are you going to do another video with Jack Backhouse? I rewatch your "break 80" video every once in a while. I like the course management videos you've posted.
The best thing i ever did for my game as i got older, was take clubs out. Driver 11.5°, 5 wood, 23° hybrid, 7 and 9 iron, 50 and 56° wedge and of course a putter.
Yep. That's basically my dad's setup and he regularly shoots in the 70s. Hits it right down the middle and has a solid short game. He always says, "I really hate shooting my age." He's 80. 😆
As a TH-camr you get to work with the best custom fitters. I paid $200 for a driver fitting when he did a crappy job. In the end, complained that I didn’t buy anything.
I love your content, however what is the point of being fitted for clubs using a ball that you don’t normally use, surely you will get false results. At my fitter, I always use the ball I play with (AD333) which gives me good feedback because I know my distances. If I was fitted using a Prov1 or similar then what good is that data, because I can’t afford to pay £40-50 a dozen for premium balls. Plus my fitter is independent and has all the brands to test.
I know Hannah is trying to help out with this video but honestly, unless you know a fitter you can actually trust it is not worth it. A good golf swing works with any club as long as you use roughly the right stiffness/shaft. I would say as long as you are not of Single digit or better forget the fitting and go for lessons. A good golf coach can even give you recommendations on what to get based on your skill/swing.
I kind of have the opposite experience to this, I can hit some awful shots with non fitted clubs and I have decent technique. I have used so many fitters over the years even before I did videos and haven’t had a bad experience. I do tend to stick to seeing fitters from brands and not sure if that helps. It is interesting people have lots of comments really about the quality of fitters. Where abouts are you based I wonder if it is a location thing?
I bring the balls I game to any fitting or when I buy any clubs. Been hitting the TM Inked as of late and have really liked them. I wasted $400 on a fitting and the clubs I got based off that fitting got sold. Just because I'm tall, 6'6", they had me at +1.5" in length and 4* upright. Everything went left...everything. I ended up going standard lie and length in the MP 243. Tried 2 flat in the i530 and didn't like the feel of them at all. The place I did my fitting asked me how close I was to a certain, more pricey, part of town. I asked them why...you going to base your pricing off where I live? The silence was deafening on the other end. That should've been my first clue not to go there.
Went to three iron fittings at 3 different places, American Golf, PXG and AF Golf, got three different advised lie angles going from 3 up to 1 down…Either the measurement equipment in all three places is inaccurate or my swing changed wildly from one fitting to the next. Both are possible! The fitting at American Golf was most definitely not done with a decent ball, it was in a bay with a bang average range ball. Enjoyed my experiences at both PXG and AF Golf and had confidence in my fitters, not so at American Golf, who were the people who fitted me 1 down, standing 6ft 4 with a steep swing Physics tends to suggest i need a more upright swing, but who knows! Big recommendation for the team at AF who told me they could not improve on my irons as a package although some irons were better in certain areas. I value that sort of honesty hugely and went straight to a wedge fitting where I used some of the money saved from my iron budget to purchase three new wedges as mine were a bit tired. Always considered fittings as good as a lesson for the insights it gives to your game, so definitely worthwhile for most golfers. No one’s swing repeats shot in shot out, but, I remain of the view that the higher the handicap the greater the difference between swings, the greater the swing inconsistencies the less relevance to a fitting session which works on small incremental gains.
@@timmarchant8380 lie angle is interesting as every manufacturer has their own standard. So 2 flat in one brand could be 1 flat in another brand. Lie angle will also change relative to the length of the club, so a shorter club with play more flat and a longer club more upright so may require a different change.
Why would anyone go to AG for a fitting? They will fit you to whatever gets them the best commission. Go to a good golf pro for your fitting. Failing that go to somewhere that charges a fee but isn't working on commission.
I always go through these points at basically every fitting I have had. Usually just discussing it while you are hitting balls as part of the natural conversation so intrigued why you think that?
Fitting is very important, but don’t go to American Golf, they are clueless. Maybe this one guy is ok, but everywhere it’s just an average shop assistant with a little knowledge fitting you. Ask them about swing weight for instance. Blank faces. I needed a replacement grip 50gm. I was given a mid size 60gm. Fitter said, ‘10 gms! Won’t make any difference!’ Clueless. I really like your channel Hannah, but don’t sell out to AG, not classy enough for you.
Fitting makes sense, IF you have a consistent and repeatable swing that yields the required distance and accuracy. It is a waste of money, if you aren’t. Learn from a coach and practice, practice and practice! It is a very difficult sport.
Just DON'T go to American Golf in Chester. Useless, waste of my time! Didn't show me any numbers, told me to go and get lessons! (Was a 15 handicap at the time, now a 12)
I had a custom fitting. It was a great sales pitch! I gained 20 yards distance between 6-irons from mine (32-degrees) versus new (24-degrees). I couldn't wait to get the fitted clubs. Then I started looking at what I "got sold." I paid 163% more for the same clubs (including shafts) than if I had ordered directly from the manufacturer's website--not to mention they were the second most expensive clubs they could sell me! I figured out the loft difference and realized that there was no effective gain against my 24-degree 4-iron. Yep, I GOT SOLD! Everybody says, "Go get fit," but if you are not working in the industry it's more likely you will "get sold" too.
Sure you're in the majority. Fitting is a by and large a scam, another word for a hard sales pitch. I've been advised GI clubs and hand made Japanese forged at two different fitters in the space of two weeks. They either haven't got a clue or just don't care - or both. Bottom line is that pro golfers have got absolutely no interest in anyone with a handicap over 5, they are lower life to them, just a means of making some money. A good idea is to get your numbers from a paid fitting and then put your bag together yourself via eBay/used/second hand and find a guy at the range to tweak them for you. Quite enjoyable once you get into it..
Hannah is the only youtuber who I don't mind hearing ask me to 'please subscribe' on every video.
Hannah, I love your content and really enjoy your insights, style and off course laughter. So nothing disrespectfull: but you live in another world with your talent, swing and age. You live in another world with the quality and attention you get from brands, fitters and pro's working with you. Sure you will benefit, improve and profit, if only incremental and based on the performance and caracteristics of your swing on that day. However.... In our world, the 10 t0 20 hc we get to fit max 3 heads, 2 or 3 shafts and within an hour or so we are sold the dream. I have been fitted 65, 85 grams shafts and 105 gram shafts for irons, regular and stiff, CB's, hollow bodys and distance clubs all in the span of a few months. Only by buying second hand sets and loose shafts (FW/D/Hybrid) and trying these in real life situations on course, not on a DR mat only (mats kill your swing anyway) I figured out what suited me best. Yes it looks more expensive, but selling not performing gear, usualy with no or minor loss is much chaeper than buying the dreamset for £ 1500, - thats not performing or disappoining.
Dead on. The second-hand bin is filled with someone else’s custom fit dream.
One consideration is whether your swing is repeatable. I have had a few fittings and decided that i had to do something about my swing fundamentals first because my swing variations negated a good recommendation. So I agreed with my pro to take lessons every 8 weeks and get consistent. I then got fitted, again, and the recommendation was quite different and far better.
I’ve had fittings at American Golf and they’ve always used the range balls. I noticed the guy in the video avoided the question “does AG use different brand balls for a fitting “ His answer was “yes, no”. Then he explained that the technology in balls has improved over last 5 years.
Haha the yeah no is a South Africans way of saying yes 😂
Could take a sleeve of balls of your own choice for the fitting?
Yes.
When I've been fitted at AG, I always take a sleeve of my balls with me, Srixon AD333 or TM Soft Response. They will let you use them, and you will get truer results than using a Pro V1 or TP5
@@russtbird I always do, much better and accurate results than using a Pro V1 or TP5
I do like the video, but it would be nice to see a high handicaper go through a fitting and see what kind of improvement they get. Seeing a scratch golfer get fit doesn’t really translate to someone that hits it fat most of the time. I’m not trying to hate on the video. I’m finally going to bite the bullet and spend the money and go get fit for new clubs. Very curious to see what clubs that fit me could do.
Good luck finding a fitter who gets even close to providing the type of service you see in these videos too.
@@bsmith4u2 100%
Ego: 100% ! I have played golf since 1997, and I have seen SO many guys that want "tour blades"... they need to "shape their shots" and stuff like that ... and yes; they really shaps theirs shots (slice or hook).... I think that 90% of the guys I have met (in this category) would be scoring lower with more forgiving clubs... if not more....
I was at a fitting not long ago; and he asked me what I was thinking regarding "type" of clubs and shafts: And I just said: I don't care: what ever is best for me.... and he said "thank goodness...", and we had a chat about, espessially guys", that came in and "know" before the fitting that they HAVE TO HAVE xtra stiff shafts (or whatever), and it is a struggel when they actually have a regular swing.
Hi Hannah...lots to think about from this video...I was lucky to have a fitting at Scottsdale Golf and to their credit the fitter did ask me most of the topics you mention. I have ended up with a blended bag of clubs from different manufacturers..
great video
excellent content found it very interesting the various ball comparisons
I like the guy saying 4-6 degree gap...I had my custom fit irons spaced at 6 degrees as decided 15-18 yards per mid range club was plenty accurate for me! allowed me to get two options at each yardage between 200-230yards with a mixture of irons, hybrids and fairway woods. I do get comments on having so many head covers in the bag though!
More headcovers usually means someone who has had their bag sorted out properly in my experience!
@@hannahholdenNCG 🙌
Thanks Hannah. This put some of my concerns to rest. I'm really thinking about saving up and getting a driver fitting. I currently have a Mavrik that I just can't seem to hit well, even after tinkering with the settings on it.
Going in for my first custom fitting ever in a couple days! At club champion
Nice, enjoy it!
Very interesting. Thank you. 😊😊😊
You’re welcome 😊
I'm starting to feel like a stalker, but I really enjoyed this video. I'm on the fence about getting a custom fit set, but I do have a lot of love for my 13 year standard G10 irons. I'll defo consider getting fit now, but I need to think about where I'm at with my irons at the moment. Cheers Hannah!
🙏 great video information Hannah cheers
Went for fitting at American Golf. Rubbish. Dint check my height, or hand size. I’m short with small hands. Don’t check existing length of my clubs. They are short. Dint listen to my budget. I wanted an iron set and drive for max £1000. He was saying the starting price would be £1400. Was a complete waste of all our time
Great info
Loving your subscribers cut aways 😂😂😂
🤣
Single digit player and I've gone 9 wood and 7 wood. So much better so far. Was too inconsistent with hybrids and long irons. Ball flight is a bit high, but X shaft keeps ball flight a bit more penatraty 😅
nothing wrong with that! I have hybrids, long irons and 7 wood (no 9 wood!) for options at the top end. Find it so much easier to soften a short iron shot so maximised options at the top end instead! Ultimately, what works for you is the right answer!
7 woods and 9 woods are badass!
@@hannahholdenNCGDustin Johnson hit a 9 wood today on the 246 yd par 3 at the PGA championship..
Tell the fitter I say hello from South Africa 🇿🇦
Noticed the accent too 😊
Sounds like there have been a few ... less than good experiences with club fittings. If you find yourself in OKC, you should check out Ball Golf. I had a great experience (fall 2021) and love my clubs (G425s).
Hannah, when are you going to do another video with Jack Backhouse? I rewatch your "break 80" video every once in a while. I like the course management videos you've posted.
Great advice Hannah, I’ve forwarded this to a mate who’s going for a fitting but definitely needs to park his ego and his brand loyalty 😅
😅😅😅
The best thing i ever did for my game as i got older, was take clubs out.
Driver 11.5°, 5 wood, 23° hybrid, 7 and 9 iron, 50 and 56° wedge and of course a putter.
Yep. That's basically my dad's setup and he regularly shoots in the 70s. Hits it right down the middle and has a solid short game. He always says, "I really hate shooting my age." He's 80. 😆
As a TH-camr you get to work with the best custom fitters. I paid $200 for a driver fitting when he did a crappy job. In the end, complained that I didn’t buy anything.
I love your content, however what is the point of being fitted for clubs using a ball that you don’t normally use, surely you will get false results.
At my fitter, I always use the ball I play with (AD333) which gives me good feedback because I know my distances. If I was fitted using a Prov1 or similar then what good is that data, because I can’t afford to pay £40-50 a dozen for premium balls. Plus my fitter is independent and has all the brands to test.
I’m sure you could take your ball and get fitted with them! These are just the options they provide
I never see any left handed clubs. So I struggle to get a fitting. Withe such a limited amount and choice.
I know Hannah is trying to help out with this video but honestly, unless you know a fitter you can actually trust it is not worth it. A good golf swing works with any club as long as you use roughly the right stiffness/shaft. I would say as long as you are not of Single digit or better forget the fitting and go for lessons. A good golf coach can even give you recommendations on what to get based on your skill/swing.
I kind of have the opposite experience to this, I can hit some awful shots with non fitted clubs and I have decent technique.
I have used so many fitters over the years even before I did videos and haven’t had a bad experience. I do tend to stick to seeing fitters from brands and not sure if that helps. It is interesting people have lots of comments really about the quality of fitters. Where abouts are you based I wonder if it is a location thing?
We now have something in common. My bad shot is too the left too.
😂😂😂
I bring the balls I game to any fitting or when I buy any clubs. Been hitting the TM Inked as of late and have really liked them. I wasted $400 on a fitting and the clubs I got based off that fitting got sold. Just because I'm tall, 6'6", they had me at +1.5" in length and 4* upright. Everything went left...everything. I ended up going standard lie and length in the MP 243. Tried 2 flat in the i530 and didn't like the feel of them at all. The place I did my fitting asked me how close I was to a certain, more pricey, part of town. I asked them why...you going to base your pricing off where I live? The silence was deafening on the other end. That should've been my first clue not to go there.
Went to three iron fittings at 3 different places, American Golf, PXG and AF Golf, got three different advised lie angles going from 3 up to 1 down…Either the measurement equipment in all three places is inaccurate or my swing changed wildly from one fitting to the next. Both are possible!
The fitting at American Golf was most definitely not done with a decent ball, it was in a bay with a bang average range ball.
Enjoyed my experiences at both PXG and AF Golf and had confidence in my fitters, not so at American Golf, who were the people who fitted me 1 down, standing 6ft 4 with a steep swing Physics tends to suggest i need a more upright swing, but who knows!
Big recommendation for the team at AF who told me they could not improve on my irons as a package although some irons were better in certain areas. I value that sort of honesty hugely and went straight to a wedge fitting where I used some of the money saved from my iron budget to purchase three new wedges as mine were a bit tired.
Always considered fittings as good as a lesson for the insights it gives to your game, so definitely worthwhile for most golfers. No one’s swing repeats shot in shot out, but, I remain of the view that the higher the handicap the greater the difference between swings, the greater the swing inconsistencies the less relevance to a fitting session which works on small incremental gains.
@@timmarchant8380 lie angle is interesting as every manufacturer has their own standard. So 2 flat in one brand could be 1 flat in another brand. Lie angle will also change relative to the length of the club, so a shorter club with play more flat and a longer club more upright so may require a different change.
Why would anyone go to AG for a fitting? They will fit you to whatever gets them the best commission.
Go to a good golf pro for your fitting. Failing that go to somewhere that charges a fee but isn't working on commission.
All fitters make commission…
How much did AG pay for the feature?
But AG are known to push people to specific clubs as commission can vary throughout the year.
Most club professionals are not pressured by brands.
American golf do not have enough choice of shafts and no premium ones.
200 dollars by Ping in Canada. With existing clubs.
Great video but as a fitter this would take ages to fit going through all these points
I always go through these points at basically every fitting I have had. Usually just discussing it while you are hitting balls as part of the natural conversation so intrigued why you think that?
@@hannahholdenNCG sorry it was a joke that got lost I mean if we walked round like you did in the video
Fitting is very important, but don’t go to American Golf, they are clueless. Maybe this one guy is ok, but everywhere it’s just an average shop assistant with a little knowledge fitting you. Ask them about swing weight for instance. Blank faces. I needed a replacement grip 50gm. I was given a mid size 60gm. Fitter said, ‘10 gms! Won’t make any difference!’ Clueless. I really like your channel Hannah, but don’t sell out to AG, not classy enough for you.
Fitting makes sense, IF you have a consistent and repeatable swing that yields the required distance and accuracy. It is a waste of money, if you aren’t. Learn from a coach and practice, practice and practice! It is a very difficult sport.
Is American Golf a good place to have a fitting??.
No…..😂😂😂😂
Worst possible place for a golf fitting 😂
Just DON'T go to American Golf in Chester. Useless, waste of my time!
Didn't show me any numbers, told me to go and get lessons! (Was a 15 handicap at the time, now a 12)
He says “guys” while talking to a woman.
😂
I thought the same thing, passive misogynist views are rife in golf, mores the pity.
Get a life. Guys has always been used to encompass both men and women
OK nice hands and nails...
Everyone has a fetish I guess.