STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI - Redux Review
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the fact that these movies were the last chance to have luke, han and leia in the same scene is soul crushing.
Everyone is coming back! ...But they're not gonna hang out much at all. Han & Luke? Nope. Oh, and in each movie one of them dies. Brilliant. I'm so stoked because I've waited forever for this...even it they're kinda remakes with few new ideas. One the biggest studios with unlimited cash and the ability to attract the best writers on the planet. FAIL. 😑
I guarantee you, Harrison Ford told him he would come back for a truckload of money, and my character gets killed off. And he falls off a bridge. SMH! 😢
Looking back at it, the Disney Star Wars trilogy is the biggest fuck up in Hollywood history.
Purely because they had everything available and messed up.
Now, many of the original cast members have passed away, so it is now completely impossible to do a good Star Wars sequel.
I haven't watched the old movies so I don't care about the old people but I liked Rose and Finn in these new ones.
Just wanted to drop in and say that I've been watching your reviews for long enough now that I can honestly say you've become a comforting and familiar presence in a world where I increasingly feel like I'm going insane. You're thoughtful and sincere and I'm glad you're out there. Welp, seeya later.
@Andrew Lovely _ gahhdam the shy attempts to compliment then dip as to not seem like one of the other hornybois no work no more homie it's 2022... you seem lovely and sincere, which I 'preciate, but put it on table guy show her what you workin with. K seeya bye
This is so true.
shes not gonna sleep with you 😂
“This movie is like learning… you were adopted” may be one of the funniest and upsetting (yet poignant) movie review quotes, I’ve heard so far. What an incredible way to articulate a feeling.
This perfectly captures my sentiment walking out of the theater. I was questioning my entire existence as a Star Wars fan. I distinctly remember walking to my car and thinking, do I actually hate Star Wars? An existential crisis is really not what you want to have happen coming out of a tentpole blockbuster.
Same thing with Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.....
I guess, it's not a good idea, when you wait 20, or even 30 fuckin' years to make the next movie of a classic film franchise, especially when CGI has completely taken over and movies are more like fuckin' video games.....
At the very end of TLJ, a random guy sitting behind me said "this movie could have been mistaken for a parody". Which is absolutely spot on
Its crazy. The original movies were so iconically great that, despite 2/3 of this series being entirely unwatchable, ppl still care about the franchise enough for the discussion to continue. Just shows how good those originals were.
Eh the originals are not “great” also. Even Empire is not that good(Rogue One is better). The franchise is relevant because of marketing, toys, exposure..capitalism 101. Empire is definetly a good movie though and it has some heart.
Andor is extremely watchable. I reluctantly gave it a shot, and wow! It's one of the better TV shows this year. It actually makes the Empire menacing.
After TLJ, I quit Star Wars. I used to be very deep into the fandom, lore, and community. I quit cold turkey until Andor. It's worth your time.
@@dominicpinchott7432 Sounds like i might need to peep that 👍
@@dominicpinchott7432 Even as a TLJ fan, I highly recommend The Mandalorian and Vision, both creative and unique spin on the SW ethos. And if you like 3D animations, Tales From The Jedi and most episodes of Clone Wars are worth the time (specially if you're into lore and stuff).
@@enman009 the lore is so massive now. Amazing how much they've been able to develop the SW universe
I just found you from an extraordinarily old review of yours and you have an incredible, intricate, and balanced way of reviewing. Well done!
Star Wars is no longer fun to talk about and needs to be put away for a very very long time.
You’ve summed it up perfectly there for me.
I think the idea of killing Snoke was so that Kylo Ren would become the main badguy in the final film. Though JJ Abrams was like like 'Nah I'll just bring Palpatine back, it was Palpatine the whole time.'
Leia Poppins was the biggest WTF moment I ever had in a theatre
For me it was what they did to Luke Skywalker.
@@timtags that's not a moment, it's a movie
@@timtags Luke made sense to me. 🤷♂️
@@virgogaming6488 why? It would make sense to me if they set it up in the previous movie. But having it set up in a brief flashback, his character being where it is, is incredibly unsatisfying. I would have respected it more if they turned him to the dark side than being a boring sad sack that does absolutely nothing.
@@taddy_mason4197did you not understand what Luke's final act did for the Resistance and Leia? Luke sacrificed himself to save the good guys from being murdered by the First Order. He used the Force as a defense and not for attack like a true Jedi should. If he had done nothing then he wouldn't have pulled the biggest troll in the galaxy on his dear nephew. Yes the movie has a lot of issues but don't say Luke did nothing because that isn't true at all.
A couple things that are messed up about TLJ is that Finn goes through the exact same character arc that he does in TFA.
He starts the movie as a selfish coward that wants to run away, but the actions of his friends inspire him to be brave.
He's also on the reviewing end of a speech from Rose about how war and slavery is bad. Finn, a black man who was brainwashed child soldier needed to be told that war is bad.
Ha-freakin-rumph.
This was just the beginning of Disney/Kennedy’s identify politics crap
I'm surprised the whole Rose - Canto Bey 'storyline' didn't get a mention. You could edit it out and it would have zero effect on the main plot.
Your reviews are always enlightening and address great points on the strengths and shortcomings of the movie you're discussing. Thanks for keeping your reviews classy and offering substantial insight, the Adult Swim comment is spot on. Keep up the wonderful work!!!
I remember back when this was in theaters I went to visit a buddy of mine since we had agreed to go and watch it together. Dude couldn't go for some BS reason even after I went to his house (the theater was close-by) so he basically wasted my time. I was so mad at him at the time.
Months later when I finally watched this movie I was so GLAD that I didn't have to endure it in a cinema. So very glad lol
the best part of The Last Jedi was when Poe makes a yo-mama joke and the first order general said "it's Huxin' time" and huxed all over the bad guys
The best part is the end credits.
Your comment is the best comment.
Hux yah!
Perfect Review! You captured all the important points in my opinion...without mentioning how your expectations got subverted :D
Only recently discovered your channel. I love your confident delivery and presentation of your thoughts; you speak with sophistication and intelligence, but are never arrogant or condescenfing. Also, that English accent you did is very fetching :)
Watching this film is like finding out your adopted. Mic drop quote. Best review ever. 😂😂😂
Great review. I remember when the trailer for force awakens came out and someone posted it and said "so excited for this!", and my response was "um, have you seen the prequels?". His reply was "but this is J.J. Abrams". Hmm...
JJ abrams has been riding the good will of the first couple seasons of Lost for like 2 decades. Amazing.
@@lockekappa500 Which is ironic since he only did the pilot. The show is really Lindeloff's from the jump. At this point his work on 09 Star Trek was the primary plus going in.
While JJ Abrams isn’t exactly the best defense for why something will be good, just saying “have you seen the prequels” isn’t the best defense for why something will be bad. Especially since it was widely known that the creator of the prequels would have zero involvement in the making of these new ones. It would be like someone being excited for the new Dune movie and you saying “Well did you see the David Lynch Dune?”
My enjoyment of this review is tempered by the realization that I am going to feel compelled to watch the prequel reviews. Fortunately you don't include clips, so that's merciful of you. I've joined your Patreon, though I've no idea what to expect from there, I just like what you're doing in general.
I saw it recently and finally started to enjoy it.
Some of the smartest criticism on TH-cam. I wish you more viewers and more fame and fortune to match your brain!
THANK YOU for finally articulating my then inexplicable feelings of confusion, disappointment, and aggravation upon leaving the movie theater. the last jedi was truly the most abysmal experience i've ever had in a movie theater.
Just wanted to say that you’re my favorite thumbnail ✨
I think you really nailed it here, I never get tired of listening to peoples thoughts on the sequel trilogy. The sequel trilogy should have been an easy slam Dunk. I can almost picture in my mind the way it should have went and how captivated Star Wars fans should have been with this instead, it's absolutely Astounding how disappointing these movies came to be as a trilogy. It's almost an impressive achievement at how disappointing these movies were.
Rey, when someone asks you if you’re a Skywalker, you say YES!
Nimble little Minx!
I’m shocked at how respectful your comment section is from people who enjoyed the movie. I’ve received such condescending comments for not enjoying the film. You’ve really built a great and respectful audience. Great review, saying things better than I ever could.
who are these people that enjoyed this movie??
She rulz. We love her ideas and presentation 💯👈
I wasn't going to comment since I don't _really_ have anything to say, but thanks for making this video. You said much of what I've always thought about this movie, but was never able to put into words.
Thanks again
The opposite of love is not hate, but indifference. You got there.
I remember taking my little cousin to see it, and upon leaving the theater, he absolutely loved it but many others did not, so I’m curious how the movie will fare down the road with the generation of kids from today. I grew up with the prequels and have always had a soft spot for them despite glaring flaws that I’ve noticed as I got older, so it’s interesting in that sense. I rewatched it recently since I got Disney Plus for free via my carrier, I’m mixed on it but it’s not horrible, Rise of Skywalker is an abomination.
I'm glad to hear that you are coming to the end of reviewing Star Wars movies: there are so many movies more worthy of your attention.
You're so right in saying the movie was mean spirited. I felt the same when watching it. I was such a huge Star Wars nerd but can't watch anything SW anymore and I'm kind of glad in a way to be done with it. It was ruined from beginning to end for me with this one so I'm done, as well with the garbage Marvel films. I appreciate old movies even more now from the 30's through the 50's. P.S. you're the best film analyst I've seen in a million years. I'm old. Film criticism along with the love of film used to be a thing with Pauline Kael, Roger Ebert and others, etc. You're up there with them and maybe surpass them in many ways. I'm being serious.
Andor and The Mandalorian are good shows on DisneyPlus.
@@Chimpangel Thanks for the suggestions I just don't care anymore. When you see favorite characters trashed it takes the fun out of it for me. The FX and all that were just icing on the cake in those movies. I really cared about the original characters.
This is a great review, well done. Yea I felt the same way about Luke...While I don't think it makes sense to have Luke Skywalker go through a time of extreme doubt and disillusion with the world after having arrived enlightened and triumphant after his huge hero's journey of the original 3 movies, I do think that it's artistically *possible* to have a Luke arc that is like that, like you say in your review.. If it was handled correctly. They just don't give Luke anywhere near the seriousness and respect, and just plot definition to back up portraying him like that, and it's not even close
Thank you for this journey through star wars… it was a lot of fun…
I‘d really like to hear your take on Rogue One as well.
Looking forward to your next video…
@deepfocuslens The kid at the end with the 'rebel ring' is known as the 'broom kid'. If you look closely, the 'broom kid' uses the force to pull the broom into his grasp, hence the name 'broom kid'. Many speculated that this force-sensitive kid would have a role in the next movie (perhaps as a new Luke), but this didn't happen.
You nailed it, Star Wars is over. I was in 5th grade when the first Star Wars movie came out. Stars coming on the scene was monumental.
The next two movies were also huge.
The prequels which came out in the late nineties were steadily bringing Star Wars down.
But Disney Star Wars is truly the death of Star Wars. Nobody cares, Star Wars is now uncool, disliked, hated.
We are in a world now we are in a world now that people scoff at Star Wars.
Each 3 films in this trilogy felt like they were going in a completely different direction. It was all a giant mess in a blender.
3:26 The best summary of this film... ever!
Wow you articulated how I feel about The Last Jedi perfectly. Oh well.
"Legendary badass ladies gotta stick together..." Best eye roll moment ever 😆
The only character who needed to die due to the actor dying in real life didn’t. And they had an opportunity for a rather beautiful send off -which is them quickly spoilt it with that ridiculous matrix/Mary Poppins ripoff. That part alone made me realise Disney doesn’t know what to do with Star Wars. Or why the originals hold a special place in our hearts from our childhoods
It was a movie with so much potential. For a moment there was a touch of Kylo Ren reflecting the Dune Messiah book, he almost touched Heathcliff Wuthering Heights levels of gothic, rebel against your blood and roots levels, but it was crippled by all the popcorn waffle going on around it. It should have been a story about Rey and Kylo Ren, and their questioning of everything. Unfortunately it wasn’t.
Great review, as always! I was sooo done with Star Wars after this abysmal trilogy, BUT to my utter, utter shock, there is still hope. While "Mandalorian" lent SW a helping hand, "Andor" is literally saving it. It's truly impressive how well the series is done.
I quit Star Wars entirely after this movie, I reluctantly started watching Andor and am elated to find it is one of the best things on TV this year. For the first time, ever in Star Wars, the Empire seems truly horrific and menacing. Now I understand how fear will keep the local systems in line.
Mando sucks too. Ando is the top content
@@Lucas-cz5to sure. But if Mando hadn't been the success that it is, Andor for sure wouldn't happen. We've got Favreau to thank for maintaining that SW lifeline.
The title and thumbnail say it all, still always great to hear your thoughts. This movie is great if you're blackout drunk.
I agree with you. I have to say I also like the salt planet as a concept, the scene of Leia stood in solitude at the hangar door in silence, with the high collor on her coat, overlooking the horizon is one of my fave scenes. So atmospheric and full of tension and feeling of loss...but then the following battle..a let down.
deepfocuslens - "This movie is like learning... that you were adopted." You got em Ryan
I'm going to suggest Andor to you as a piece of Star Wars content worth watching. Many think of it as the best Star Wars has been since The Empire Strikes Back. I'd love to hear your thoughts on it when you get the chance to see it.
I never thought that I would get my love, or wonder, for the SW universe back, but Andor has done it! Subtle nods to SW history that makes the world feel real. No constant winks and nods and lightsabers. It's among the best TV of the year. It really feels like reading the SW novels as a kid. Exciting and fresh.
The last jedi is punk baby!
Totally agree with your review, Luke was done dirty, thank you for your review
The best review of this film and the sequel trilogy in general that I’ve heard. Thank you.
Could it be that maybe, _just maybe,_ the eigth chapter of a nine part story is not the ideal place to deconstruct the whole thing? I mean, you could finish the thing properly and deconstruct it later, in a separate project... no?
Coming to think of it, I have the impression that we had an already complete story told in six parts and that elements of it had been already thoughtfully, skillfully, artfully and successfully deconstructed in a videogame (KotOR II). But maybe that's just _my_ impression.
TLJ made me care about Star Wars again. It was refreshing and emotional and featured set pieces worthy of the franchise. It all in hindsight means nothing but at the time before the Abraham's retcon I was excited for SW for the first time.
Honestly, I feel the same way.
I agree. And Andor is pretty great too!
Same. I thought they were just going to rehash the original trilogy, but Last Jedi gave the sequel trilogy a new direction and purpose.
I remember falling asleep when I saw this in the theater. Still haven't seen The Rise of Skywalker and don't plan on it.
I waited until it arrived on Netflix. After about a half hour or so, I was playing with my phone. So boring
I was so upset with this film that I walked out of the theater halfway through it. At the very beginning when Luke threw his lightsaber off the cliff, not one person in the packed theater laughed. I heard a few groans though.
Lol. Here we go. And when we getting a Livestream!!?? 😂.
Star Wars died when it was bought by Disney, that's my take. As a former student of the film critic Howie Moshovitz I really appreciated your review of the film. I saw it in the theatre with my brother and I was so bitterly disappointed. I didn't even bother to go see Rise of Skywalker. As a whole I pretty much agree with your assessment of the film. It was a very "pretty film," but ultimately a completely disappointing and frustrating film that betrayed/pissed off the fans. It was also soul crushing because movies were always a source of joy and escapism for me. This movie tore my heart out from my chest, threw it on the floor and stomped on it. They did Luke dirty, and Mark Hamill tried to subtly try warn us. He even said to the director, (which one I forget), "I like everyone's part but mine."
This was a nice vid; you do great work.
Oh, by the way; you are gorgeous 😍🥰😍🥰.
Late to the game but thank you for this re-review! I think a lot of people had a similar take where upon first watch, they felt the movie was good but, after a re-watch and some reflection and comparison to the saga as a whole, realized this movie was NOT all that great and did so many of the characters we love(d) dirty.
I hope people watch this because of your opinions, nothing else. Very good
Great review completely agree. I think it was the only one of the three that had the chance of saying something original
Luke’s nephew brutally murdered all of his students, and in Luke’s mind, it’s maybe because of him. So when Rey shows up and hands him the saber, what is he supposed to say? Thanks, let’s begin your training now
Well, surely not toss the lightsaber in a comedic fashion behind his back. This feels like a parody. Actually the whole movie feels like a parody.
@@Minotaur_ I think Hamill’s performance makes it work. It’s surprising and funny, but not over the top funny. It works for me… especially knowing Luke’s arc at the end / Rise
no, maybe look at it and act sad or angry or bitter or something? not treat the moment as a wacky bit of slapstick? you say in your comment it's this deeply emotional matter, yet he treats the intense moment like a Jim Carrey gag or something.
"WeeeeeWP! YOINKS! Peace!" ugh. what a bad, bad movie. we're still talking about how shitty it is. and the worst part is it seems it was made _intentionally_ bad. joke's on us. joke's on our culture. I guess the joke kinda backfired, huh.
@@bijibadness Hamill’s performance makes it work. He plays it completely strait and looks miserable, which makes it funny. And give it time, The Last Jedi will eventually get the love it deserves
It's not about the decision to make Luke the way he was but much more the laziness in which it was done. They give us a cringy 5 second flashback and he pouts in Ireland the whole film. It's boring and lazy writing. Especially if you're fundamentally changing a character.
The scene when Leia floated through space half the audience laughed during the time I saw Last Jedi.
Its not the worst thing in the world. In fact, if Rian Johnson directed all three it would have probably been great (he has made other films that I enjoy). But what I hated is that Force Awakens set up so many things and Rian missed the alley oop.
I never understood why they use different directors for a trilogy. Or why television does it now.
@@lockekappa500 They tried to replicate the success of the original trilogy using 3 different directors.
The last jedi shits all over the world of star wars so sure he needed more films to completely destory a franchise he didn't make.
Disney should contract Tony Gilroy (creator/writer of Rogue One & Andor) to helm a re-envisioning of episodes 7-9 based on George Lucas’ approved novel continuation of the story (which is considered “legends” now, but who cares how you label it).
Gilroy’s work has been SO GOOD & second only to Lucas’s 6 films. Gilroy has shown he can write deeply engaging stories on a budget without the clutch of too much CGI & tacky nostalgia. It would undoubtedly be so profitable.
Gareth Edwards deserves some credit for Rogue One even though Tony Gilroy came in to "rescue it". Personally, I would like to see an original cut that had a longer battle scene as rumoured
“ Andor” while def better than Obiwan and Bobba - has a similar issue almost all Disney shows have: a lot of padding, very little momentum. The Master Stretcher apprach. Why do 6 good episodes if we can make 4 good ones and 6 fillers. Boom. We have 10.
I don’t agree that a show can be called “a slow burner” just because it’s “slow” considering the episodes are short and have characters having pedestrian-level bickering chats dressed as high drama. A space (soap) opera.
It’s like if Game of Thrones characters instead of discussing GoT matters (that are progressing story) would argue about alloys variants that are used to make the iron throne’s swords. I mean yeah, but maybe not for 80% of the episode?
Mostly fat very little meat. It seems that star wars fans (which I slowly feel not one of much) will love anything star wars as long as it has that “grounded gritty feel”. Otherwise how would we (grown man) justify watching a wizzing space cartoon 😈
As mentioned above - give Edwards some credit, R1 didn’t feel as “soapy” as A does. There’s so many scenes in Andor that feel like cheap soap opera.
To be fair, Dave Filoni is solid too. Gilroy, in so far as making a trilogy, would also be a very different tone, and possibly polarising too.... don't get me know, I am fan of what he is / has made, and am keen to see more. Just in so far as a mainline trilogy, I don't think thats where Gilroy would even want to play.
@@andrewj1754 you’re right about that, and perhaps Gilroy wouldn’t be too interested in a helm position… or even in making a strictly adaptive work of preexisting novels, as he seems to be given wide freedom in his past screenplays.
… he had a really interesting podcast interview with Marc Marron about 2 months ago where he discussed the writing process for Andor & his conversations with Kathleen Kennedy. He loved the idea of crafting a Star Wars show without Star Wars “royalty”, Jedi, lightsabers, force battles, massive space battles, etc… but rather showing how mostly unremarkable people in the galaxy react amidst the rising tide of revolution & authoritarian crack-downs.
Since he made such an engaging story without many of those nostalgic crutches, I think it’d be so impactful to see how he tastefully treats those classic Star Wars tropes as well… and in the concentrated form of 2.5 hour mainline films instead of drawn-out streaming series’.
Good Stat Wars now is on TV.
„Andor”, and two last episodes of „Mandalorian’s” 3rd season are one of the best Star Wars stories so far. „Andor” might even be one of the best SW ever.
Maybe something is changing in Disney? Maybe next cinema trilogy will be more ambitious.
One can only hope 😅
Great great reviews of the series all around. Spot on and I enjoyed watching them. Thank you.
I think this sums it up. Rian Johnson, the man who snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Will you rank the star wars after the review series
Yep! Working on that.
@@deepfocuslens i appreciate it ive always been a fan of rankings weather it be franchises or directors work
i remember appreciating this movie when i watched in theaters when i was young because of how unpredictable it was. less than a week later i just sat and wondered wtf was that
I remember watching your original review and thinking you must not really like Star Wars to review it so favorably because the entire ethos of the film seems to be crafted to troll longtime fans. It may not matter in the grand scheme of things but I appreciate you sharing your updated thoughts and your journey with SW in general, even after all these years listening to a voice of reason is cathartic.
I gave up on the franchise already. Interesting to hear that Im not missing anything.
Nothing is worse than The Phantom Menace. How many years did I wait? Seriously one of the worst days of my life, walking out of the Ziegfeld Theater in NYC in the rain and my friend saying "Man... I'm really sorry". 😑
Andor did a lot of the concepts TLJ was going for pretty well
"this movie is like learning that you were adopted". Lol
I was once a huge Star Wars fan since the 1980s. I had played tons of games and collected a bunch of stuff from this franchise. In the 2000s I had bought Master Replicas AT-AT and X-Wing studio scale models. Wasn't cheap.
But TLJ ended all that for me. I was so angry with what Disney was doing, I wanted to leave the theater early but I couldn't, because I was there with family.
The Prequel Trilogy had issues but I still liked them overall. Original Trilogy FTW. Han shot first and all that. But the Sequel Trilogy killed the franchise in my eyes. I went and saw Rise of Skywalker because family wanted to see it and I didn't want to be a downer. Outside that reluctant return, I have never truly come back to the franchise.
Every time I stumble into Star Wars stuff on the internet, even if it's from the Prequel or Original Trilogy, or even the well done Clone Wars series, it's all tainted. It's tainted by the Sequel Trilogy and the damage it did to the franchise. I listen in on what's going on in Star Wars and it's still the same stupid stuff that began in TLJ.
Rian Johnson's claim to fame is Ozymandias.
I just watched the Star Wars Holiday Special for the very first time………..
Holiday Special > Disney Sequel Trilogy
This film broke me. Sure, the prequels were huge disappointments but this was tipping point, the moment when any hope of a revival of Star Wars was driven off a cliff, Thelma and Louise style. It felt like a feature-length exposé to give Star Wars fans the middle finger. And you know what? I gave it right back. It takes a lot for me to feel insulted by a film but this one did it. What an absolute waste of time and talent this was.
I spent a week in DaVinci Resolve making a fan edit. There's a lot of great stuff in the movie, and I ended up appreciating it more after working with the material... but there are parts that I loathe.
Of the sequel trilogy, TLJ is the only one I can sit down and watch. Maybe because it provides quick closure for The Force Awakens. I didn't like seeing Luke in such an awful state as a hermit, but that was the only thing that made sense. He kinda turned into Yoda.
And, the ending with the broom kid felt like a way forward for the Galaxy after the conclusion of the Skywalker Saga. I'm good with ending the trilogy right there..
The part I can’t get over is when benico del toro’s character tries to draw a moral equivalence between the first order/ empire and the rebels. Totally ridiculous considering the events of the other films.
After hearing that "Yo Mama" joke from Poe, I knew this movie was shit.
Oooh Rogue One would be a great review!
I really like TLJ because it delves into a lot of the ideas that weren't present in other movies that i always thought would be interesting. The idea of a main villian without the Emperor, a person who was chosen by the force to create the balance without a royal bloodline, the set up of a creating a new jedi order from scratch. Seeing Luke as a person and not the mythic black or white character. A stormtrooper joining the rebels and learning to stop running. A hotshot pilot learning that heroics have consequences and sometimes being the best at war is being the best at restraint and conserving as opposed to fighting. They are character arcs and plotlines I love and thought they were interesting things to explore in a Middle chapter. It's just too bad they were immediately ignored in favor of borderline fanfic Rise of Skywalker.
The movie is messy mainly because alot of lingering plotlines that JJ left for Rian to address without an outline. JJ killed Han Solo. JJ separated all of the OG heroes. JJ didn't give any background on how the dark side rose up again, and the first order gained so much power in only a few decades. JJ left so much and gave so little. I have zero doubt that if Rian was hired from the beginning, his trilogy would have been great.
I would disagree with this immensely. The problems of the TLJ wasn't due to what JJ setup. There are some problems but the main issues come from how Rian breaks the lore and characters of Star Wars. Luke saw good in Darth Vader somebody who was far more dangerous and evil than Ben when he was in Luke's school yet Luke went to go kill him for what reason? This is a person who felt the power of the emperor so he felt darkness far greater than Ben's before. Also by using hyperspace as a weapon begs the question on why it wasn't used before if a single ship could be used to destroy massive capital ships, why wasn't this maneuver used before? Also Rian straight up turned Hux into a joke because he thought Hux was funny. That information comes straight from Rian himself. Which is a problem if Hux is supposed to be a villian, having him be a joke isn't a good idea. I could go on and on about the questionable writing in TLJ but to try to caulk it up to JJ's loose threads is questionable.
@sounghungi
1. Luke says in the film that it was a shameful moment of weakness to light up his lightsaber above Ben. The only reason to me that this feels weaker than it should is because we don't see Kylo actually become more evil than Vader, which was a possibility in episode 9. Kylo could have been way more devastatingly cruel than Vader if the storyline of him being the singular ruler of the galaxy without an Emperor or succession of power around him. He killed Snoke, hoping Rey would join him. When that doesn't happen, the atrocities he was going to commit would have been immense if JJ would have actual followed that up.
2. Hux was never meant to be an important villain. In the OT, all imperial officials were bland and sometimes bumbling idiots, with the exception of Tarkin, of course. Having Hux have a kind of nervous and slimy energy really entertained me. I was fine with it.
3. The ship being used to destroy the first order fleet also doesn't bother me mainly because it served the moment of conflict in the story. Having Holdo turn out to be the one who makes not only the sacrifice but does it in a way that sends the message to the First Order was satisfying. Star Wars has a long history of the force, weapons, and abilities being used in ways that work to fit that scene or plot point and nothing else. Of course, if the rebels wanted, they could have just flown any ship into the biggest enemy ships, disabling them, but we also wouldn't have a movie. I dont think that its a big enough moment because even if we removed it and just had Holdo distract them by flying off course or whatever, the end result is still Holdo dying and buying the resistance some time. I've read that there is some conflicting lore on whether it's even possible, but I'm willing to accept it for what it is as a moment in the story.
@@mrbrandonmartin388 1. Just because he said it was a shameful moment of weakness doesn't mean anything. We as the audience has seen Luke and what kind of person he is. Just because the writers will the character to say it doesn't mean it makes sense.
2. Hux was the First Order's commander aside from Vadar. Making him weak makes the First Order weak and makes them less of a threat which is a problem if you have to make the audience feel like there are dangerous stakes involved.
3. Again you're missing the point. If what Holdo did was a viable way to destroy massive amounts of ships with only a single ship, then why hasn't this been used in the past. Why would people bother making large ships which could easily be destroyed by this maneuver. This moment breaks the lore of the series and makes ship battles pointless because realistically speaking they would just kamikaze small ships into large ones if they got the chance. You said it yourself "they could have just flown any ship into the biggest enemy ships, disabling them, but we also wouldn't have a movie" which is the problem. Why create a situation that calls into question everything else before it. Why wouldn't real people in real life try to use this the first chance they got? If there was maneuver like this in real life during war, do you think commanders would saying, "oh well if we do this, there'll be no war."
The ideas in TLJ would be interesting if it were a "What if..." type of TV show and if the execution of it wasn't totally mishandled.
@@sounghungi we have seen Luke being a kind of person a long time ago. After so many years we can't expect someone to stay completely the same, just like normal human beings evolve and change. The last we saw actually at the beginning of TLJ is a Luke in The Force Awakens that fled and got completely isolated and that didn't want to deal with anything. So that's more of an issue I have with TFA than TLJ. Also I never had an issue with him changing because previous Star Wars movies always seemed like it is a struggle to not fall for the temptations of the Dark Side ...
Have you watched Andor?
Just popped in to cast a vote for you to review The Shape of Water
When the opening bits were scrolling up the screen the first thing I thought was "WTF?! Did a 5 year old child write this?!" And it was all downhill from there.
A prostate exam from Freddy Kruger with the glove on sounds less painful compared to ever watching this movie again. I would've never thought that I would quit this franchise and have no desire in the future of it but here we are.
Same! I quit. Walked out of the theater and never touched Star Wars anything again. Andor has pulled me back in. This is what it was always supposed to be. A "real" world with real stakes and not constant 4th wall breaking winks at the audience. It's honestly one of the best things on TV this year, and best Star Wars ever imo. It feels like reading the EU novels did as a kid.
It gets even worse the more you watch it!
I respect your opinon on Last Jedi, but im one of those that liked this movie.
I liked that Rian Johnson took risks to making this movie and made very different and unique Star Wars movie and i respect that.
Great review Maggie and take care and stay safe 👍.
Probably a weird take but The Last Jedi, from the moment I walked out of the theater, has been my favorite Star Wars film of all time. I’ve loved this movie since the beginning.
It's good to hear that this movie has brought that kind of joy to someone. It didn't do that in my case.
loved this review
for me the problem was always in execution. a lot of great ideas here but it feels disconnected in an almost scene by scene basis.
Having said that i think this is the best directed of all 9 movies (w/ the caveat that both kirshner and lucas directed empire so i dont think it counts). johnson is on a whole other level as a filmmaker than lucas, abrams etc. this is prob. the closest to what a spielberg installment would be.
Original Trilogy - Hero's Journey
Prequal Trilogy - Villains Journey
Sequel Trilogy - Drunks Journey
Disney needs to listen to this…and then listen to it again
... And then never make another SW film ever again.
new sub so im going through your old reviews and when you said "it's like finding out you're adopted" I laughed so loud. What a perfect thought for how this horrid film made me feel.
Call bullshit when you see it how refreshing
The equation of this film feeling like discovering you're adopted. Woof, I felt that (and I love this movie, even with its paunchy middle). I will always adore how you articulate your thoughts about film, even when I disagree. Your channel and perspective are a delight.
You know what would;ve been fun? If instead making the third one the way they did it (i.e all rushed and poorly written) they would've taken their time and maybe even split it into two movies to get it back into a good direction. I would've actually much rather had two completely different movies explaining everything than the actual stain that Episode 9 left in the franchise; truly despicable.
It’s all been said before.. BUT, wtf happened in the Disney boardroom to get this made!
I believe the Laura Dern character functions purely as a red herring. We're meant to assume that Leia will be passing the torch to her character the entire film (maybe even anticipating Leia will die, given Fisher's real life passing). She, like most of the film, is meant for us to reflect on the stakes, scale, and devastation of war.
you give the writers way too much undeserved credit
She is an insult to Admiral Ackbar.
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pretty good call, some of the stills look to me like Kagemusha Shadow Warrior and Ran.
I do agree with you that this movie has an incredible potential. Unfortunately it feels like handing the keys to a Ferrari to a 14yo. I'm still shocked that the series wasn't planned and that Johnson has SOLE writer/director credit
Out of the three sequels I found *The Last Jedi* to be the most re-watchable one. Funnily enough, it was also the one who made me the most angry. 😡 *The Force Awakens* is a poor rehash of a New Hope and *Rise of the Skywalker* is a total mess from beginning to end so I only watched them *once.*
I feel somewhat the same. Out of the sequel trilogy, TLJ makes me the LEAST upset. I'm still scratching my head at some decisions made, but I'm okay. TFA and TROS just frustrated me to no end.