i do it like this: jump -> cstick up -> down on analog stick immediately -> cstick up again the important part of it is putting the analog stick down after the cstick goes up to do the up air. if you do it this way, you don’t have to time the fast fall at all, and can just press c stick up for a fast fall at the apex.
Alibaba yes, but it’s to do the fast fall. see, after you’ve jumped, you can hold down on the analog stick, and input an aerial with the c stick. this will give you a fast fall on the first or second frame where you will be able to do the fast fall, while still imputing the aerial. the same applies for short hop aerials. if you hold down on the analog stick before the apex of your jump, and input a direction, such as up on the c stick, it will give you a fast fall
Great video as always man. Heres how im doing it: Buffering Up Air by doing Jump (X) and Upair (Analog Stick Up + A), immeaditily after the jump come out i switch the analog stick down and flick the c-stick to the right for the fast fall. Timing is strict and i also discovered that it works best when the opponent is about 80%. Thats works best for me.
Honestly I wish i could to show you how your videos changed me I literally started smash 2 months ago and my joker was terrible now he is my best character all because of your videos
If you're struggling to do this combo I would recommend using a lighter character and working your way up to heavier ones, personally I would pick mewtwo as he has a big hurtbox and it's what works for me
This can work very well if you can either play with claw grip or set a shoulder button to jump. I play Melee with claw grip so transitioning to ultimate wasn’t difficult. But definitely something that everyone should try for a month!
agree! i have a shoulder button set to jump but i still use X for the infinite because i feel like shorthopping with triggers are more difficult than with X or Y. I use trigger jumping for other things though
Yo, maybe Captain L's enhanced training mode would help you lab these kinds of things? I'm not sure where you're at, but if you're not super confident in doing the arduino shit yourself, there's usually a guy in the local scene selling em decently cheap, or I could help you out. Anyways might be worth looking into if you plan on doing a lot of labbing, since it's way more reliable than the combo counter. Anyways great video keep em coming man! edit: lmao nvm ur probably aware since you used a clip from his vid, I'm blind
I do uair drag downs differentlh. What I do is I buffer the uair then fastfall on the fourth hit. On bigger/heavier characters you want to fast fall on the third hit because they are bigger. That's what I do and it works for me just fine.
Hey thanks for the video! I will be trying it out to see if it works for me. It's one of those things that if it happens it just happens so I really didn't put a lot of focus on it. Let's get back to the lab again
instead of the fast fall's timing, i think the most difficult part in this combo is the jump. sometimes the game didn't save your jump buffer and you will uptilt like an idiot..
damn i cant use the x button to jump, have to grab with it cuz controller issues, can u make a guide on how to do my taxes? Im just playing, ive been wondering on how to do this myself so ill figure it out with this, nice videos as always my dude!
If you can't get correctly the shorthop you can press 2 jump buttons at the same time. I have 3 jumps buttons (L/ZL/X). Why? Because if I press L and X for the jump I don't have enough time to buffer a shorthop aerial (Undragdownable aerial), and if I need the finger of my right hand inmediatly (Like in this trick) I just press L and ZL for ensure the shorthop. Even if you don't have a Pro controller you can use the GameCube controller with R and Z/X/Y. I *never* learn how to shorthop at the traditional way.
question. you said that you pressed X for ur jump and then flicked the c-stick for ur up air. is it possible that I can press jump and A at the same time to do the short hop aerial easier but only worry about the fast fall timing?
you can indeed buffer the up air but that will make it harder to NOT get the last hit, which will obviously end the infinite. by slightly delaying it, its a lot easier to only get the first 4 hits and continue the infinite. and even if u delay it, the infinite will still be true! delaying the up air slightly tends to work better in my opinion 😁
I need some help landing the up smash at the end, I can’t get it
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Hello man, this combo is indeed not true at early %. It starts being true around +70% on midweights (you can verify by setting the CPU to "control" and go frame per frame so you can see if the CPU can shield or not before getting hit by the 2nd uair) but the combo counter wont show up until like 90%. Thus i recommand setting the CPU to 90% to practice it, because if you can get the combo counter to show it up as true at 90%, then you can perform the combo correctly at 70% as well, so it helps you to know if you're doing it correctly or not. Also, you want to buffer the uair during the shorthop. Once this is done, you have to figure out the correct timing to fastfall. You got a 4 frames window to input it after the 3rd hit of uair hits the opponent, thanks to the generous buffer window of fastfalls in this game.
Hey Cozy, I a pretty legit Joker main but I some how can seem to do this still consistently the percents and characters are not the problem its the execution I know how to do drag down upair's but I cant do the infinite!! WHat heppens is I do it but I dont think Im doing in fast enough becuase the combo meter doesnt show it although mario is at the perfect percent what am I doing wrong?
the combo meter is wacky so dont rely on it, it’d be great if the training mode was actually legit but its not lol just keep practicing and if u have a friend or someone who can DI and try to escape from it thats even better! 👍🏽
Thanks man but I am asking me something, I do the combo exactly like in your video but the combo counter doesn't increase, so am I making the combo bad?
well it depends at what % you’re doing it at. its not true at low %s, it starts being true around the 70ish% depending on character. plus the combo meter in training mode isnt that reliable anyways
I though it was called leffoble because of some cool meaning french word, "sounds fancy" Then i realize it is a dumb combination of leffen and wobble that does'nt even has sense if you think wobbles is the name of the founder of wobbling 🤦🏿♂️
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the homie back again to give me things to train on, looks like I ain't getting out of the lab for a while lol
ima keep yall in the lab for a minute lol
YES thank you for the video and playing The Ideal and Real in the background!
i gotchuu
Love all your Joker tech videos. Thank you for all your work and taking the time to make them.
thank u for the support! means a lot that u enjoy them :D
i do it like this:
jump -> cstick up -> down on analog stick immediately -> cstick up again
the important part of it is putting the analog stick down after the cstick goes up to do the up air. if you do it this way, you don’t have to time the fast fall at all, and can just press c stick up for a fast fall at the apex.
Do you use claw? It seems pretty hard to flick the cstick fast enough
Sean Chua i have my z set to jump so it’s easier to do it
I jump with the index finger and press C-stick with the thumb. It's nice for doing aereals
What is the point of doing cstick up again? you're already doing an upair at that point no?
Alibaba yes, but it’s to do the fast fall. see, after you’ve jumped, you can hold down on the analog stick, and input an aerial with the c stick. this will give you a fast fall on the first or second frame where you will be able to do the fast fall, while still imputing the aerial. the same applies for short hop aerials. if you hold down on the analog stick before the apex of your jump, and input a direction, such as up on the c stick, it will give you a fast fall
Dude,I asked one or two days ago lol. That was such a fast upload. Thanks for this it's proved useful. Keep up the good work
i had already started working on it since before that lol, thank u and glad u found it useful!
@@CozyyPR np man!
man this infinite is so hard because i can’t time the fast fall thank you for this i’m gonna be practising .. mainly to annoy friends in arenas ahaha
thank u for watching! :D
Same it took me about a week but I think I got the timeing down I just have to stop accidentally full hopping
Great video as always man. Heres how im doing it:
Buffering Up Air by doing Jump (X) and Upair (Analog Stick Up + A), immeaditily after the jump come out i switch the analog stick down and flick the c-stick to the right for the fast fall. Timing is strict and i also discovered that it works best when the opponent is about 80%. Thats works best for me.
yea i believe i said leffobles start being true around 70% and up, below that the opponent can usually shield on time
Honestly I wish i could to show you how your videos changed me I literally started smash 2 months ago and my joker was terrible now he is my best character all because of your videos
thats amazing to hear!! keep up the grind!
If you're struggling to do this combo I would recommend using a lighter character and working your way up to heavier ones, personally I would pick mewtwo as he has a big hurtbox and it's what works for me
Cool vid! Keep up the content, chief!
appreciate that G!
This can work very well if you can either play with claw grip or set a shoulder button to jump. I play Melee with claw grip so transitioning to ultimate wasn’t difficult. But definitely something that everyone should try for a month!
agree! i have a shoulder button set to jump but i still use X for the infinite because i feel like shorthopping with triggers are more difficult than with X or Y. I use trigger jumping for other things though
Damn, imagine playing joker on any stage other than a battlefield variant. Big skill time.
Yo, maybe Captain L's enhanced training mode would help you lab these kinds of things? I'm not sure where you're at, but if you're not super confident in doing the arduino shit yourself, there's usually a guy in the local scene selling em decently cheap, or I could help you out. Anyways might be worth looking into if you plan on doing a lot of labbing, since it's way more reliable than the combo counter. Anyways great video keep em coming man!
edit: lmao nvm ur probably aware since you used a clip from his vid, I'm blind
Woawww man you came in clutch with this I had a smile on my face seeing this video :) letsss gooo
lets gooo
I do uair drag downs differentlh. What I do is I buffer the uair then fastfall on the fourth hit. On bigger/heavier characters you want to fast fall on the third hit because they are bigger. That's what I do and it works for me just fine.
Best leffoble guide on yt
thanks bro!
dude your edition skill is so good
thank u i appreciate that!
Finally! Much appreciated
lol cant believe sparg0 literally got a 1000 hit chain with these after just a bit of trying
Hey thanks for the video! I will be trying it out to see if it works for me. It's one of those things that if it happens it just happens so I really didn't put a lot of focus on it. Let's get back to the lab again
its honestly not the most reliable thing but its good to know how to do it in case it happens in-game
The Infinite can be avoid with sdi of course but you can adapte to the sdi and move the up air of the other side of the sdi
yes it is SDIable but you can easily just follow their SDI!
@@CozyyPR yes
instead of the fast fall's timing, i think the most difficult part in this combo is the jump. sometimes the game didn't save your jump buffer and you will uptilt like an idiot..
Very informative video.
thank u! glad u enjoyed :)
This is so character dependant, i can do it w Mario, Villager, but tall characters are so hard
it is indeed!
So for the upair you need to not do a rising upair but as close to the first frame out of jumpsquat upair
i dont put any effort into doing the upair fast, i just do it immediately after, which ends up being a couple of frames of delay (3-4 maybe??)
TooCozy ok thanks this really helps
I keep losing Online XD
I guess I'll need a long time to play him Online cause I can manage offline
Video is nice as always keep it up
thank u! keep grinding!
@@CozyyPR yessir will do chief
damn i cant use the x button to jump, have to grab with it cuz controller issues, can u make a guide on how to do my taxes? Im just playing, ive been wondering on how to do this myself so ill figure it out with this, nice videos as always my dude!
If you can't get correctly the shorthop you can press 2 jump buttons at the same time.
I have 3 jumps buttons (L/ZL/X). Why? Because if I press L and X for the jump I don't have enough time to buffer a shorthop aerial (Undragdownable aerial), and if I need the finger of my right hand inmediatly (Like in this trick) I just press L and ZL for ensure the shorthop.
Even if you don't have a Pro controller you can use the GameCube controller with R and Z/X/Y.
I *never* learn how to shorthop at the traditional way.
hey man whatever works for u! thanks for the tip! :D
You should make a video about Joker's OOS options how he should use them and when.
hey thanks for the great suggestion! :D make sure to join the server my guy
@@CozyyPR Already In it thanks for the great content! You've really helped me improve hope we can have a set sometime.
question. you said that you pressed X for ur jump and then flicked the c-stick for ur up air. is it possible that I can press jump and A at the same time to do the short hop aerial easier but only worry about the fast fall timing?
you can indeed buffer the up air but that will make it harder to NOT get the last hit, which will obviously end the infinite. by slightly delaying it, its a lot easier to only get the first 4 hits and continue the infinite. and even if u delay it, the infinite will still be true! delaying the up air slightly tends to work better in my opinion 😁
Lmao am I the only one that doesn’t do any of my drag down combos with the cstick
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MAAAAAAAN... You're *Too Crazy* for do this.
... _Sorry 4 the pun_
I need some help landing the up smash at the end, I can’t get it
Hello man, this combo is indeed not true at early %.
It starts being true around +70% on midweights (you can verify by setting the CPU to "control" and go frame per frame so you can see if the CPU can shield or not before getting hit by the 2nd uair) but the combo counter wont show up until like 90%. Thus i recommand setting the CPU to 90% to practice it, because if you can get the combo counter to show it up as true at 90%, then you can perform the combo correctly at 70% as well, so it helps you to know if you're doing it correctly or not.
Also, you want to buffer the uair during the shorthop. Once this is done, you have to figure out the correct timing to fastfall. You got a 4 frames window to input it after the 3rd hit of uair hits the opponent, thanks to the generous buffer window of fastfalls in this game.
hey i appreciate that bro! thx for watching! :D
@@CozyyPR np man keep up the great work
Hey Cozy, I a pretty legit Joker main but I some how can seem to do this still consistently
the percents and characters are not the problem its the execution
I know how to do drag down upair's but I cant do the infinite!!
WHat heppens is I do it but I dont think Im doing in fast enough becuase the combo meter doesnt show it although mario is at the perfect percent
what am I doing wrong?
the combo meter is wacky so dont rely on it, it’d be great if the training mode was actually legit but its not lol
just keep practicing and if u have a friend or someone who can DI and try to escape from it thats even better! 👍🏽
@@CozyyPR ty
Thanks man but I am asking me something, I do the combo exactly like in your video but the combo counter doesn't increase, so am I making the combo bad?
well it depends at what % you’re doing it at. its not true at low %s, it starts being true around the 70ish% depending on character. plus the combo meter in training mode isnt that reliable anyways
Is there a way I can get out of it if it happens to me???
if the leffoble is true, the only thing u can do is SDi to the edge of the platform
I though it was called leffoble because of some cool meaning french word, "sounds fancy"
Then i realize it is a dumb combination of leffen and wobble that does'nt even has sense if you think wobbles is the name of the founder of wobbling 🤦🏿♂️
yea i really wish it had another name to it but it is what it is lol 🤷🏽♂️
What happened to this video? It has captions and the titles different
not sure what u mean? i havent added captions and the title hasnt changed 🤷🏽♂️
@@CozyyPR well for me it is huh that’s strange
Yow is this still in the game?
yessirrr
Is this still true?
havent used joker in a while but im pretty sure it still works! 👍🏽
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