Tri Z 250 Yamaha two stroke three wheeler YTZ 250 ATC 250R Honda tecate
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- Tri Z 250 Yamaha two stroke three wheeler YTZ 250 ATC 250R Honda tecate
Post from TimSr. a Tri Z expert at 3Wheelerworld.com:
"As far as 86's handling any better than 85's, yes, the changed tire sizes work better, but since tire selection is matter of basic setup, I dont consider that a better handling trike. The bigger forks are stronger, but they have the same rake, and same length, so again, they have no effect on handling. Stiffer spring in the 86? Maybe it does, but again, they are sprung for the riders weight, which is also a matter of basic setup, and a lighter spring is better for a lighter rider. If stiffer= better, than an ATC110 has the best suspension of all. For a 150-160 lb rider, the stock 85 Z has excellent front suspension. For a 170 lb guy like me, the 86 might be better, or you drop in a set of $80 progressive rate springs from DK. I see no engineering changes between 85 and 86 that affect handling at all. They simply put a little more thought into basic setup.
Without changing frame geometry the Z will never corner like the R or the T3, which is what we usually mean by "handling", but the longer wheelbase is a handling asset for jumping, and straight lining.
All awesome machines, but top speed is Soooooo irrelevant. How fast you can do 0-50 is the name of the game. I dont know where the heck all these guys are riding at 60 or 70 mph, but my guess is Ive rarely, if ever hit 50 on a race track, and I cant remember the last time I found a field big enough to wind any of my two strokers all the way out. The drag strip at haspin ends before I can be totally topped out on my Z,even with its super low gearing. Geez, I had an old Honda CB175 twin that would do 75. Does that mean its "faster"?
Once again, if you can ride my Z, which has no major modifications, puch teh throttle and shift through the gears, and tell me its noticeably slower than whatever youve got, then I am dying to see what you are riding."
Here's a post from Denn at 3Wheeler World.com about the 250cc Shootout:
"If any of you follow ebay you might remember a month or so ago, there was a 250cc shootout from an old newspaper called the ATV NEWS for 86 being sold on there. This was the most thorough shootout I have ever seen and I have the dirt wheels and 3&4 wheel action ones also. They had clocked all three bikes, the top speeds were as follows TRI-Z 70mph, 250R 68mph and the tecate 58mph. They had printed everything, like the gear ratio of each gear, number of teeth, and how fast each bike went in each gear. The degree of rake and trail for each bike. Everything technical about those bikes is listed. Here's my favorite part!! The TRI-Z was the winner of the shootout. They tested each bike on actual motocross tracks and flat tracks and the TRI-Z had the fastest times and was the best handling. Not like dirt wheels and the others that test everything in sand as if everyone lives around the corner from GLAMIS! They said the motor had the most useful power band out of the three meaning it had something to offer in each stage from low, mid and top. I will gladly make copies and send them out to whoever wants one. It is a three page article and really the most interesting one I have ever read regardless if the TRI-Z won or not. I would also like to add as a current owner of 3 Tri-z's . That the 85 tri-z was a piece of crap compared to the 86. The engine in the 86 has a broader power band and the suspension is completely different. It is extremely difficult to bottom the front of the 86 tri-z. Most people give tri-z's a bad rap cause of the 85. Most people can't get a hold of a refined 86Z. They really are a totally different bike."
Tri Z 250 Yamaha two stroke three wheeler
I dont know what is more vintage, the Tri-z or your sunglasses.
😂 those glasses are legit.
Ronald Tartaglia ha ha ha
My thoughts exactly
@@250rtrxjunkie cool bike...
@@250rtrxjunkie ...
I was totally enamored with these machines back in the day. I was also it the BMX scene as well. Thank you for the trip down memory lane!👍🏻
me too... they are beautiful.
That is GORGEOUS! I like that even more than the ATC 250R. LOVE the color scheme, just like the first Banshee that came out in 1987.
so do I :)
Man that brings back memories!!! I got mine when I was 12 and no business riding it. Lol
Wow
Very cool ‼ I raced 3 whlrs & thn 4 whlrs for long time. 3 whlrs are making a come back. alot of people are getting back into them. Wick On ✊
awesome brother!! Glad you got to see it! Great times they were!!
I have a 85 with a D.G exhaust and you made my day, you did leave out the 350X witch is a beast but it's 4 stroke.
I love this vid, more of these please. Siiiiick bike. I'm picking one up Monday (85) almost as good, haha
Nice YTZ! Sounds good too. I have an 86 250R but I dig all the trike brands.
I have the big 3, 87 Tecate, 86 250R, and 86 Z--red like yours. I would say the Z has the best suspension and brakes by far. The engines are pretty close in stock form. The Z can definitely be made into a ripper with the Wrench Report mods, carb, pipe, etc. The weakness of the Z is the light front end due to the rear mounted tank, it makes the steering vague.
That exact model just about killed me. But hey i was a teenager.
Very cool 👌 I have the black and red 85 tri z250 it needs freshened up but is still in amazing condition thank you for some insight on this beast you know your stuff 💯❤
You can add a primer bulb from a boat between your tank and your pulse pump and it will start in a kick or two. Super easy, doesn't look too bad and it saves you on cold mornings.
That almost sounds legit and crazy enough to work, a way to charge the cylinder. You can also rock it back and forth in gear to charge it, think cr 500
@@shanejohnson437 oh it definitely works. I've done it in UTVs and a few ATVs before and it works GREAT. even if the pump is on its way out and slowly loses prime. It acts as a secondary check valve. Primer bulb is legit.
@@thisislargemouth5566 great idea...thank you!
Can't go wrong w/Yamaha!
Fantastic review; I appreciate that history. The Yamaha was the best looking race trike imo
Agreed
That thing is beautiful. And u find the previous owner from this video. Pretty awesome! I had a YZ 80 as a kid with that same factory energy induction air box deal.
Yep that's true! He reached out to me from the vid! he he...really great to re-connect to him! Thanks for watching!
Had a black 86. They are pretty mild in stock form. With porting and a pipe they can get more hp than an atc. Super fun bikes.
This guy look like that kid who always said my dad will sue your dad but all grown up 😆
I think you bought that Tri-Z from me about 18 years ago. It was in boxes in my shop. Near Tyler, Tx.
YES I did bro!! That's exactly right!! Lee holy cow dude!! If you see this email me: darius.youwealth@gmail.com How did you figure it out from the video? Ha ha... yeah I see I talked about in the video! I still remember that listing! :)
yes you were right...once I got it together she started right up. I was able to buy new plastics front and rear for it. Ended up doing the Phase 1 mods and rebuild. I still remember that day and thinking 'what the heck did i get myself into' but it was perfect like you said! Thank you bro!!!
Good Ole days
Very Nice! Love the Tri Z just picked up a 1985.5 bkack and red. Keep the vids coming! Can you show how you put the intake together?
All i did was buy a clamp on filter. Just make sure it fits the bell of the carb (i.e., the big part of the carb).
Raced 250r's and Tecate's, I was never beaten by a Yamaha. No knock on them because I owned two 86 Tri-Z's.
“Boost bottle”? You know those are an urban myth, right? You need to get back in your suburban castle, hank hill 🤣 Yamaha says, I believe! It’s like the hose running from the exhaust manifold in my truck up to the air cleaner, a b.s. part. There ya’ go
yes I do....but that's what came on it! :)
They supposedly helped low end power an came from early-mid 80s dirtbike lineup.
Had that exact same 86 tri-z bike . I couldn’t take the 250R though but the triZ looked the best. Drove it till the clutch wore out in it …. Then sold it 😢
**WTF!!!!** SORRY, but I never knew blk/red was special edition, yet I bought mine in 96(pre internet) as a barn find & went thru a full rebuild, including .050 wiseco piston. It was a beast after I fixed it up & another thing was the reserve air box on the upper right frame u pointed out. I bought it w/an empty oil bottle there but didn't know what/why it was there, after going to the dealer & ordered the proper reserve, it made in amazing difference. Thx for info sir & beautiful machine. Oh yeah, I was told 86 was a 6 speed trans, is that true?
She’s a beauty!
thanks.
Cool old tri z looks good.
Thanks man!!
Dude that bike is sweet!
there was someone selling one of the black ones in Perth Western Australia a couple years ago. was advertised for quite a while. I thought maybe he wanted too much. 15k I think..
That Is a very nice tri-z. I’ve been looking for one for quite a while but very hard to find.
Nice man. I’ve had one of these.
Own a yellow Tri z fast fun bike
That thing is friggen insane looking, I'd give my third leg for that
Beautiful. How much you pay for it and how much do they usually go for ?
Cool video, keep 'em alive! What' s your jetting, are you running the stock carb? 86 owner here with the wrench report mods + DG pipe (keeping the stock airbox though, I like it better). The wrench report jetting applies to the 85 model only. I find that with the stock 86 jetting (310 main) it runs lean, just bought a 350 main and maybe end up with a K&N filter.
hey Angelos! I have a 2mm bigger carb. It think a 34 or 36 mm PWK. Not sure on the jetting.
I rode both tri z and 250r. 250r handled better and Lil smoother
Are there 3 wheelers on sale in US. Those look much better that ATV’s and UTV’s. 3 wheelers have that appeal that others do not have.
Uhhh, apparently you don’t realize they outlawed these things here in the U.S. and therefore Japan hasn’t manufactured these in almost 4 decades!!!!!
I need this , lol
That's ur opinion....we bitched for years to put them all on all 3 machines and do laps. Cause one person is always a better rider!!!! So that test was a epic fail when they said go!!!
Where do you get OEM Yamaha plastics?
You don’t
U can get the front and back fenders in white on eBay i think the manufacturer is maier? There expensive about £400 in uk pounds and almost another £100 to import here ,also but very rare the red radiator covers and even more rare but new with no holes pre drilled the front and rear fenders in red but I’ve never seen a replacement new front light cowl/surround or the air filter box YET! But u never know Bruce
But definitely no original ones but hey the reproductions are brand new and for me that will do nicely cause if it’s a money thing trying to get the best price for originality then untouched original is what’s worth more but i think in good to immaculate refurbished condition is worth plenty of money and it spoils it to be fare making them over priced and only available to a few because of that
I’ve had my 86 over 25 years and only paid £360 because nobody wanted em everyone scared of em by then after being banned for about 8 or 10 years when i bought it and in all that time I’ve owned and maintained it still doesn’t even stand me at £1000
I got them years ago. Used to be abailable
Do you know where I can see the official wrench report? I can only find bits and pieces from an old magazine. thxz
Check 3wheelerworld.com
damn this was good to no thanks
The third gen Honda 350 is insane
3rd? That would be an 87
Gimme them glasses bro 😎🤘🏻😆
Got them on Amazon!!
What about the 6 speed trans for the 86.
Oh yeah true
How much??
I love your bike, but i have to disagree with you about the 250r. I have ridden both on paved road and in the sand dunes and the 250r was the faster better handling machine. Now the tri-z was spectacular but in my opinion the 250r is king even with the four wheeler world. Just my opinion and i absolutely love your bike for real. Keep it forever!
thanks Richard! I def. tend to agree... on most tracks the ATC 250R is better. Maybe desert the longer chassis of the Z would be an advantage. Who knows. I wish I could post that old ATV News test. I have it somewhere. I also have an '86 R and yes its a better machine! Stock vs. Stock R wins! :)
Will sell it ?
For sale?
6 speed
Want to sell ill pay whatever ya want
350x was out b4 tri z
Really? You could be right
You wanna feel real power, try the HONDA 500R!!! :)
Tiger 500 u mean not to nock Honda as they are the greatest but it was the very rare tiger 500 that was the fastest apparently capable of 100 mph from stock
True. But my ktm 500 is faster
TRI-Z VS 250R RACE
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Very nice trike but wtf is going on with your outfit???????
I don’t know. Just had it that day!!
There's no such thing as a Honda 250R tecate