The Best DAW Controller For You? Icon DAW Control Surface Comparison

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  • #dawcontroller #mixmusic #homestudiosetup
    What is the Best Daw Controller for your setup? This is the ultimate Icon Pro Audio DAW Controller Buyer's Guide. In this video I compare 3 different DAW Control Surface setups to help you decide which one would work best for you.
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    Index
    00:00 Video Start
    00:25 Intro
    03:59 Platform M+
    05:19 QCon Pro G2
    06:14 Qcon Pro X
    07:24 Expansion Options
    08:54 The Desk Factor
    09:53 Which Controller is for you?
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    What is the best daw controller for you? Every Home Studio has different needs and requirements. There is no doubt that the best daw control surface will elevate your Home Recording Studio game and help you get better mixes simply by giving you that added layer of control over your mix projects. Icon Pro Audio has an extensive lineup of DAW Controllers. If you are looking for a daw controller with motorized faders I compare three in this video. I've got the icon platform m plus, also known as the icon platform m+, Icon Platform Nano, Icon QCon Pro G2 and the Icon QCon Pro X. Also included in this video are looks at the QCon EX G2, QCon XS, Platform X+ and the Platform B+
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  • @ChrisTopheRaz
    @ChrisTopheRaz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wasted over 30 minutes on videos, trying to figure out whether the G2 or the X were flagship until your video. People are just not on board with what their viewers are actually looking for. Thank you for that.

  • @DVTOM
    @DVTOM 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's about time someone did this! Thank you!

  • @monkeybarrelmedia
    @monkeybarrelmedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was the best review of these faders. Helped us make a choice on the Pro G2 with extenders!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sweet! Enjoy it!! Thanks for your thoughts!!

  • @danielstartek1497
    @danielstartek1497 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    iCON Platform M+ best piece of kit I ever bought!

  • @guydematas9447
    @guydematas9447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The lonely rocker has done it again. Thanks for putting together these great videos. They really help me with my own home studio. Keep them coming.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Post pics of your studio! Would love to see it 😂😂

  • @CreativeSauce
    @CreativeSauce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking great man! What an awesome fresh start :)

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks mate!! Appreciate your support and encouragement!!

  • @rjkuser
    @rjkuser 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the new opening! Great job!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! It was time for a refresher...

  • @Rickytee2
    @Rickytee2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    New intro nice!! Studio looks fantastic Love icon gear they really have got it locked down in the controller sector, something there for everyone. Have the G2;s Pro x's next.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks as always my friend. And that Icon gear looks sweet in your studio as well!

  • @keysbythenumbers
    @keysbythenumbers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, worth the sub. Oh and the intro was pretty cool too!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! Really appreciate it! And glad to have you here!! Look forward to hearing from you again...

  • @mitchellquinland9439
    @mitchellquinland9439 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just had to returned five units with the two main units of the ICon QCon Pro X crashing continually. Found it takes too much time out of a working day fixing problems. Therefore, phase it in slowly & make sure you’ve got a back up system so you can continue with your work flow. It’s nice when it works good, but I found it too temperamental and couldn’t take it. Support was also an issue from many warehouse outlets & even more so from ICon QCon being slim on the ground. So do your research to make sure it does what you expect it too and that your not left to get on with it because of its unfamiliarity in the industry tech world. At least this has been my experience in the UK.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sorry your experience hasn’t been positive. I did another video about DAW controllers where I said you have to manage your expectations with devices like this. We all have different expectations. But the one main point I made is to NOT expect these devices to do everything. They can’t. They are a great accessory but certainly not a master controller for every function. It’s important to understand that before buying one. Which is why I made that other video.

  • @iglasner
    @iglasner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Slick new intro! There is definitely some badass musical sorcery going on behind those frosted glass doors! 😂🤘

  • @citytonightproductions
    @citytonightproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great intro bud, always a treat to watch your vids! You’re finally getting around to the icon pro x review! Been waiting months! Love mine, so much to use hands and ears without my eyes watching waveforms! Would love to see some tutorials on set up, and use as the Icon webpage is ridiculously bad for info. Especially updating the software, and using extenders in different configurations. Took me a while to get the system to work with an extender on each side of the controller.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much! I know it was overdue. I know Icon is really trying to step up the game on the support content. It's a tough topic for me to do because there are so many different DAWs to cover and I just use one. But I know they are working on getting better at that by tapping more creators so hopefully that will get better soon. Cheers!

    • @citytonightproductions
      @citytonightproductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker right on, you’re doing a great job and I always appreciate your vids! Your new studio looks great too, nicely put together! It’s Nice to have a ph environment reset once in a while and change it up, seems to kick up the creativity a notch I find. Cheers

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@citytonightproductions Always appreciate your thoughts my friend :)

  • @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
    @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great intro, and a nice fresh look!

  • @NigelDThompson
    @NigelDThompson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking and sounding great. Love a short vid on how you got that Geddy Lee bass tone you have in your awesome intro music.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much! Ha! That bass riff literally came out of me the night before I posted the video so I had to throw it in there. I was thi king I should tackle bass tone....perhaps we'll see that here soon!!!

  • @Illkacirma
    @Illkacirma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thnx for chkng all these things out!

  • @STxFisherman
    @STxFisherman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks for the great info.

  • @TheStudioDrummer
    @TheStudioDrummer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful. Thanks dude.

  • @bealezebub513
    @bealezebub513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whoa, weird. I was just going through your older videos that were about DAW controllers yesterday. Good timing!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Must be something in the air! :)

    • @bealezebub513
      @bealezebub513 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker synchronicities!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bealezebub513 I think so! ;)

  • @allenbaker_music
    @allenbaker_music 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the Rush bobbleheads!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A must for the studio!!! :)

  • @marcelolewinmedia
    @marcelolewinmedia 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent overview.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @stevesrecordingtips7247
    @stevesrecordingtips7247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    New intro looks amazing!

  • @sandrakaminsky7107
    @sandrakaminsky7107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the new intro!

  • @everennui1
    @everennui1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    damn. 6 feet of desk space. i thought I went overboard when I made mine 70".
    I was really hoping for a comparison between some of the other brands, but I'm sure the pricing doesn't make that easy to do. Thanks for the demonstrations and thoughts!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! I would absolutely consider cross brand comparisons but I need the gear. I've reached out to other companies...we'll see what happens going forward....

  • @LonelyRocker
    @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ✅✅✅✅ Is a DAW Controller right for YOUR Home Studio?? Pros and Cons-----> th-cam.com/video/EguPsI2VwJ0/w-d-xo.html 🔥🔥🔥

  • @flowa44
    @flowa44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That intro is tight.........thanks for sharing

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Glad you enjoyed this....

  • @MetalTalk666
    @MetalTalk666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!!! I could decide. G2 for me.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure! Enjoy it!!

    • @MetalTalk666
      @MetalTalk666 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker I definitely will! I'm very excited.

  • @mauriciotejada7960
    @mauriciotejada7960 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice bro thanks

  • @Arsonloke
    @Arsonloke 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video thanks

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!

  • @Drewundonear
    @Drewundonear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not anything im interested in but great video! Ill stick tot to the faders on my keyboard as I send off my tracks to get mixed...

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They're not for everyone but thanks for your thoughts!

  • @MustacheVerra
    @MustacheVerra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice!

  • @TANAKAKINGYO
    @TANAKAKINGYO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, this is best review for iCon's surface!
    I am a staff at a distributor in Japan. If there is Japanese subtitles, Japanese customers are very happy.
    If we prepare JP text, can you make embedded subtitles?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there! Glad you enjoyed it! Sure! I would be happy to do that for you. Go to the about me section here on my channel and send me a direct email. I will add it as soon as you send. Happy to communicate with my friends from Japan!

    • @TANAKAKINGYO
      @TANAKAKINGYO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker Many thanks!
      I will do it.

  • @ZillaYT
    @ZillaYT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm going for the Icon QCon Pro G2.

  • @redviagra
    @redviagra 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The SSL Uf8 and the UC1🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'd like to check them out...

  • @felipousismix
    @felipousismix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video Dan, but double-check your mix, too much volume difference between some segments.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you...and man. People are watching me like a hawk now ;) I fight the perfectionist side so I can get out videos in a timely matter but then I always miss something...I can't win! 😂😂

  • @krishermstad
    @krishermstad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've gotten a lot of mileage out of the platform M+ with just 8 channels. I think if I "upgraded" though I'd want to a move to a more advanced version.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was my first hands on with it...it's really a great controller. Very refined and streamlined...

  • @russellloving3242
    @russellloving3242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOVE your videos man. Question for you... What desk are you using in your new setup? And what size monitor screen and how is it attached? I have a G2 rig at my own studio, but we are setting up a studio at my church. We wanna go to a Pro X setup and im searching for a desk, Keep up the great work

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much!!! Really appreciate that. Believe it or not but my desk is a combination of different pieces from Ikea. I got the widest tabletop they had. Theres a 4 cube shelf behind the desk with a little pedestal I found on Amazon that the monitor sits on. And the second monitor is a monitor arm that affixes to the desk. And my little rolly rack is also Ikea. It's 19 inches inside so I bought some rack rails, mounted them inside and boom...instant rack. I'm pleased how it turned out...I'm thinking of doing a tour video and I could detail some of this stuff...

    • @russellloving3242
      @russellloving3242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker very awesome and ingenuities, i will definitely look into some of those ideas. Thanks so much. If you do make a vid along those lines i will be watching. I recently subscribed, We make different kinds of music, but thats why i like your channel. its informative to all types of musicians and engineers

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@russellloving3242 Awesome. So kind of you. Really glad you hopped aboard! Looking forward to hearing from you in the comments!

  • @ryanreeves8931
    @ryanreeves8931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you customize the function of any of the buttons w keyboard shortcuts? (ex. Dupe tracks w/o content, snap. etc). I know the SSL can do it. If the Icon Pro product can as well, The Qcon is 1/2 the price with what seems like the same functionality if this is the case.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The best way to answer that is to point out that this is a midi controller. So if that keyboard shortcut triggers a midi event, then yes. That midi even can be mapped to the controller. The brand doesn't matter really. they all conform to the same protocols (Mackie, Hui, Logic). The available functions are decided by the protocols and not the controllers. That's important to understand. So sSL doesn't get any more access than any other controller. Watch this video where I discuss controller expectations: th-cam.com/video/5n_aPsB1E4E/w-d-xo.html&t

  • @nbg1120
    @nbg1120 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, is it posible to just buy the platform nano, and then later down the línea, get the platform extender?
    Or do I have to buy the platform main unit too?
    Great vídeo by the way!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! The Nano can operate on it's own. I did a dedicated video on that one. You can find it on my channel.

  • @eljodioerrante
    @eljodioerrante ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thakyou very much

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure!

    • @eljodioerrante
      @eljodioerrante ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker ¡Oh my god! My spelling is lousy.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eljodioerrante 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @eljodioerrante
      @eljodioerrante ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker I hope Icon rewards you as you deserve, because you have managed to convince me to enter the world of controller through your brand. Your work is appreciated.
      On the other hand, I am also a guitarist without a band...
      Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy it!!! I think they appreciate me. Too bad I don't get a commission! ;) Best to you for the holidays!

  • @derkhedemann5606
    @derkhedemann5606 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I now have a Behringer X-Touch DAW Controller, it works well, but it is unclear, so it has no meter bridge and the faders have no segment metering, so you really have to look closely at what you are doing because you quickly send in too much.
    and the Behringer x-touch dont work on any DAW software.
    that is why I am now looking into the Icon DAW Controllers, as I have heard many good stories about the DAW Controllers from Icon.
    the Behringer X-Touch is good for beginners, but as a professional producer you quickly reach the limits.

  • @moreausylvain
    @moreausylvain ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid. To bad you didn't show a fader moving with the direct sound. That's my #1 main concern for any controller :p
    I use Xtouch.. it's terrible, loud fader sound and step "clicliclic" rather than smooth silent moves. Want to upgrade but yeah.. to bad nobody does sound comparaison.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your feedback. I've actually done a bunch of DAW Controller videos. I'm certain I covered this aspect in at least one of them.

  • @MrBuckshot18
    @MrBuckshot18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Im going to downgrade to the Platform M+. I had the G2 but noticed I used my keyboard a lot more than most the buttons on the G2. The faders, Jog wheel, mute and transport is all I really used

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, I wouldn't call it a downgrade. It's smaller, sleeker unit but same quality. Not a bad idea if you know what you need...

    • @MrBuckshot18
      @MrBuckshot18 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker loosing some features. I feel they should lower the cost of the M+ about 100.

  • @MasterOneMusic
    @MasterOneMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome as always man! Thanks so much.
    Quick question, can you connect the Platform X (just extender) with platform nano, without a platform M?
    Thanks man

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much!! That's been asked before. If you are adept with midi and can custom map it, in theory it should work. For optimal use, the main units have all of the function keys and the transport controls. It's worth an experiment....

    • @MasterOneMusic
      @MasterOneMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker will do and let you know results
      Thanks man

  • @_emanmodnar
    @_emanmodnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m considering buying the platform-size due to the size. However the M+ does not have the functions I need.
    What are your experience with combining Platform M+ (or X+) together with the Nano Air on Logic Pro?
    Icon just gives a disclaimer, telling that only some or no functions will work……

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve tested all the ones you see in the video. As they are all midi controllers they should all work. But there are so many specific functions it’s hard to say if it will work for you. I mainly use them for mixing and panning. Other functions I just grab the mouse. So really hard for me to advise you from here.

  • @everennui1
    @everennui1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just checking out your DAW control surface videos yesterday. What divine providence?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A couple of people said that...my timing is good today I guess :)))

  • @jdssurf
    @jdssurf ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've got Ableton, getting a Push, need a midi keyboard that's bigger than my little keystep.
    So since most keyboard faders suck and don't have mute and solo, i'm looking for separate units for faders, the console 1 looks great for me but 600 bucks.
    Think one of this would be a solid choice or should I spend more, making mostly music like Underworld old trance and such, maybe some Enigma like stuff.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Again...budget. Only you can determine that. Console 1 is a good product. as are the units I featured here. You need to try them out and see which one you like best....

    • @jdssurf
      @jdssurf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker gotcha, sry if i posted same question on dif vids of yours

  • @Eddywars
    @Eddywars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the g2 memorize plugin mapping or do you have to midi learn everytime you open the plugin? Thank you.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s not specific to the G2. All controllers use a protocol that are DAW specific. There are too many plugins on the market for any of these to be efficient with plugins. They are mapped. But any changes you make will be universal to all plugins. I think. I’ve never tried it.

  • @revelationsoundstudio
    @revelationsoundstudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wished you compared it to the Mackie Controller and Expanders

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      This comparison was highly recommended but I would be very interested to compare other controllers if I could get them...

  • @EthanSetiawan
    @EthanSetiawan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you elaborate on using the platform nano with the x+ (or m+)? Does that work with full functionality?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can simply set them up together. One as the main controller and one as an extender. It's quite straight forward...depends on your DAW but should connect without issue...

    • @EthanSetiawan
      @EthanSetiawan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker without physically connecting them? I see there's no port on the back of the Nano to go to the X+ or M+. Then you have to set something up inside your DAW or the included iCon software...?

    • @_emanmodnar
      @_emanmodnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Icon states on their webpage that the Nano might start at ch1 (taking up ch1-8), and Platform M+ would then begin at ch9… Is this customisable in Logic Pro?

  • @djsilent01
    @djsilent01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the OG Qcon Pro. If I go to the Nano or the M+, do you feel that will be downgrading for me? Im still unsure.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, I wouldn't call it a downgrade. It's all about what you need. If you don't use all of the features and you'd rather have more space on the desk then it's an upgrade not a downgrade...

  • @christianrholt
    @christianrholt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, would you say there's a noticeable speed/reaction time difference between the G2 and the X (with the quicker USB connection) ?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly? I haven't really noticed. The faders react so quickly. I don't think the connection makes any difference as the data is likely well within the bandwidth of USB 2.

    • @christianrholt
      @christianrholt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker Thank you! Really appreciate it!

    • @christianrholt
      @christianrholt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker I greatly appreciate your help, videos, and timely response.
      My last question is have you used a Mackie MCU Pro, if so, how does the G2 or X compare overall?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@christianrholt My pleasure. I haven't used the MAckie but from what I hear it's overpriced...I tried to get one to test in the studio and where I am there are supply shortages...so not much to say about it I'm afraid. But a mate of mine sold his and got an Icon and is happy....

  • @JerridFoiles
    @JerridFoiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd like to offer some constructive criticism. I have now watched a couple of your videos and while I do find them informative and helpful, they are also a bit awkward and seem to lack consistency/continuity. I would spend a little more time in pre-production writing out your script and making sure it flows a little tighter. You can also achieve this in post production with some clever editing. But as I said before, your videos are informative and helpful, so thanks for making them.
    I also have a question: Are there any DAW controllers compatible with GarageBand on Mac?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your thoughts. I'm always looking to get better so good constructive feedback helps. I wear all of the hats here so sometimes the stress shows in my delivery but I'm always trying to get better at that. As for Garageband I'm not sure. Does it have the Mackie protocol built in. That would be a dead giveaway. It's not so much the controller supporting the DAW, it's the other way round....

    • @JerridFoiles
      @JerridFoiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker It would be closer to Logic, but I don't know if it has any protocols specifically.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JerridFoiles I don't use Garageband but DAWs need the control protocols for external devices to work. Shouldn't be too hard to figure that out...

    • @_emanmodnar
      @_emanmodnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve heard somewhere on some other review that DAW-controllers doesn’t work with GarageBand, because GarageBand doesn’t allow MIDI to flow bi-directional (only in, not out). So controllers would not be able to read settings.

  • @eljodioerrante
    @eljodioerrante ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see that the video is from a year ago, but I'm trying to grow my home studio with a controller. I was wondering if the Nano has expansion possibilities?
    Thank you.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. The expansion is actually served by the DAW and not the controllers. You can connect as many as allowed by your system. The order of them is setup through your DAW. In essence controllers are just midi devices.

  • @timmyblack8588
    @timmyblack8588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    very very nice video. did icon sponsor this video for you?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you. Icon has provided access to the equipment so I can review them but they DID NOT pay me to do this video. And I Absolutely use their gear daily in my studio.

  • @FacuPuig
    @FacuPuig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So... you can use the Nano and Platform M+ together? lets say I have the money for the nano but then I want to expand 8 more Chanels is that possible?
    Thank you

  • @andrewillingworth
    @andrewillingworth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    was wondering if you can use a DAW Controller with the likes of the Behringer X32 RACK Digital Mixing Console?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd guess not as it's designed to work with a DAW utilizing a protocol like Mackie or HUI. Unless that unit has those protocols. I've never used one.

  • @uptownphotography
    @uptownphotography 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do the jog/shuttle wheels do very fine movements on these units?
    I have Studio One and it is very hard to navigate if I just want to move the play head a few seconds using a mouse.
    So i am looking for a controller which moves the play head with the jog wheel in very fine movements similar to what i did when doing video editing where I could move 1 frame at a time.
    Thanks in advance and nice video as always...
    Phil
    NYC / Jersey Shore Area

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much. The best I can say is they are not surgically accurate. You can fly around and get into the weeds but you're still better off with the mouse and keyboard for super precision. I think a jog shuttle has its limitations in my opinion....

    • @uptownphotography
      @uptownphotography 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LonelyRocker Thanks for the info. Helpful and appreciated. All the best.
      Phil...

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My pleasure! Cheers!!

  • @soyaleeland2935
    @soyaleeland2935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a different question ;) - awsome screen saver, where can i get it?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha...that's actually been asked before. I made it myself. It was a video background for a video segment I used to do...it's a video loop and not a screensaver ;)

    • @soyaleeland2935
      @soyaleeland2935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker nice

  • @timmyblack8588
    @timmyblack8588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the QCon ProX Have just as good DAW control and Integration with Protools as Avid's DAW controllers like Avid's S1 & S3 control surfaces? or would you say Avid control surfaces is better in term of Protools DAW control and integration?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it’s safe to say any controller designed for a specific DAW will have deeper integration. Avid and ProTools. Presonus and Studio One. That being said it comes down to the features you need. The Avid controllers are WAY more expensive. You pay for that integration. The Icon controllers have built in HUI so they will work well for most mixing features, perhaps minus deeper integrations. Hope that helps.

    • @timmyblack8588
      @timmyblack8588 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker very very helpful! thanks you for your quick response.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timmyblack8588 My pleasure!

  • @ToneyLoco
    @ToneyLoco ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Great video, this is the first video I’ve seen that shows the icon nano connected to the platform extensions. I was wondering is this possible. Because I have the nano, and was thinking about expanding with the icon platform X+. The reason I asked is because I reached out to Icon pro audio support awhile ago and the said that the Nano is not compatible with extensions. But clearly in you video it appears to be. How can I make this setup work?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! Controllers are connected via a protocol and assigned and arranged within the DAW. So once the DAW sees them it’s able to arrange them in a sequential order. I can’t speak for every DAW as I use Logic. But in Logic I just keep installing new controllers and then arranging them in my desired order. Hope that helps!

    • @ToneyLoco
      @ToneyLoco ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I appreciate your reply and your insight on this matter. I use FL Studio, and I’m not sure how it will work,No videos on TH-cam showing how. But I’m excited and curious to try it myself. Maybe I’ll post it…Thanks again for your input!!!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My pleasure! And good luck with that. I don’t know FL Studio so can’t really help there but do,let me know. BTW Icon has some new products coming out soon. Might be worth waiting to see what they have to offer.

    • @ToneyLoco
      @ToneyLoco ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker thanks… I will probably wait to see what’s new with Icon.

  • @djinox9423
    @djinox9423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hy I would like to know can we use icon plateforme x+ as an extension of qcon pro G2 ?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a QCon Pro X and G2 with extenders all working together so I don't see why that wouldn't work....

  • @highland1997
    @highland1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had a Qcon Pro G2 running with Pro Tools unfortunately it kept crashing on a regular basis at least once a day if not two or three times a day, got to the point that I stopped using it. Firmware was all updated, computer was all updated, tried a number of different cables. Also found the jog wheel noisy, very disappointed with the whole experience of owning a Qcon, tried getting an answer from support but nothing, sorry

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry you had a bad experience. Most of the feedback I get on Icon is positive. Sorry that wasn’t the case for you.

  • @AudioJanitor
    @AudioJanitor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can this control MIDI like a VSTi synth? (CC expression etc)🎸

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically yes if you know how to map it. It is a midi controller in a mixer form factor with built in mixing workflow templates.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically yes if you know how to map it. It is a midi controller in a mixer form factor with built in mixing workflow templates.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Technically yes if you know how to map it. It is a midi controller in a mixer form factor with built in mixing workflow templates.

  • @longline
    @longline 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, for expansion, is qcon pro compatible with platform x+?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They don’t have to be compatible with each other. Compatibility is determined by the DAW. I have blended product lines with good results. As long as you know how to configure them.

  • @kaislate
    @kaislate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you use the expansion modules without having the base unit?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Technically yes but you will have no function control. I really don't see any benefit in doing that unless perhaps you custom map it. But I can't guarantee positive results..

    • @kaislate
      @kaislate 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker thanks for replying. Yeah I was wondering if there was any way of possibly just using them as a midi controller. There are really no other motorized fader control 🎛️ that is as good as these and if there are midi profiles for different DAWs and such. S far as I know these aren't doing any processing or anything on the unit anyway so they are control surfaces only regardless. From a business perspective the companies obviously want you to buy the expensive base and add expansions, but if you only need 8 faders and a couple buttons per track it would be nice to be able just to buy an expansion unit.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure. It’s worth trying. In your case this is just a midi controller and can be mapped with their mapping software. It would be worth a test.

  • @philhartley777
    @philhartley777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you found any digital interface mixers that are good as daw controller's? Example: Midas M32r, Tascam Sonicvision, Yamaha TF1 etc. Thanks 👍👍👍

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Presonus makes some great controllers with built in interfaces. My preference is to have separate devices in case you need to update either device you can do separately. But those Presonus mixers are kick ass...

    • @philhartley777
      @philhartley777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker Thanks. Good idea. You've helped so much in my quest for a control surface. Great videos 👍

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@philhartley777 My pleasure! So glad I could help 😎🎸🤘🏽

  • @kzac3000
    @kzac3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Q/ Can I control my subs in Cakewalk with the G2 ?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’ve never used Cakewalk but the controller sees all subs and tracks as the same thing. Subs are just additional tracks in sequence. So technically yes, it not dedicated to subs.

  • @rocvox
    @rocvox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you know of a controller that will work with Magix Sound Forge Pro 15? (or 12)

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Unfortunately I can't answer that question as I've never used that DAW. The DAW needs to support control protocols like Mackie or HUI. If it does, then it's likely any controller that uses these protocols will work.

    • @rocvox
      @rocvox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker Yeah. it doesn't. Thanks, though. Great videos, very helpful.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you. Sorry I didn't have a better answer but I try to provide the best info I can :)

  • @gxlbiscuit
    @gxlbiscuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It looks like some of the motors are slower than the others. Is that normal?? Is that ok?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally fine. You wouldn't keep them in DEMO mode as I have for this video. There is a calibration mode where you can adjust the speed of the faders.

    • @gxlbiscuit
      @gxlbiscuit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LonelyRocker Thank you for the info :-)

  • @simon_patterson
    @simon_patterson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there any competition in the market to Icon?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Icon seems to have the widest range but Mackie, Presonus Behringer SSL all have controllers

    • @simon_patterson
      @simon_patterson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker thank you!

  • @simontassano5992
    @simontassano5992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A question: The display on the Qcon G2 extender looks out of alignment with the faders??? Is this for real?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Out of alignment??? How so?

    • @simontassano5992
      @simontassano5992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker If you look at the graphic of the extender that you use, (the same as is on Icon’s website I believe), the backlight does not appear to be aligned with the faders. (Too far to the left and part of it missing on the right. I’ve searched deeper and have come to the conclusion that it is just a badly made graphic and yes, the backlight screen does align. Take another look and see if you agree.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simontassano5992 The backlight is for the display and has no relationship with the faders. It's aligned to balance with the main unit. All looks great here on the desk. Have to say, this observation is a first ;)

    • @simontassano5992
      @simontassano5992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker maybe you could nudge Icon to fix the graphic - I think it would be critical for anyone considering purchasing one of these units (myself for instance…;-). I’m guessing it’s just a cut and paste mistake from their art dept. It’s tough to photograph a piece with a backlight and have it look right. I’m convinced they dropped an image of the backlight onto the extender, but did not do it correctly. However - small potatoes..;-) keep up the great work and enjoy your new “cave”. Pax, Simon

  • @petersvan7880
    @petersvan7880 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    IMO you get more value for the money with a Behringer X-touch(expander).

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If it works for you then you have the right device for you...

  • @_emanmodnar
    @_emanmodnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Music is too loud 😒 Thanks for the review though! 🙂

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Music is never too loud!!! 🤪🤪🤪🤪

    • @_emanmodnar
      @_emanmodnar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker 😂

  • @davidlivingston7014
    @davidlivingston7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi does g2 pro works with M1 mac?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'll have to look into that. But if your DAW is supported, it should be by association but don't quote me on that...

    • @Iconproaudio
      @Iconproaudio 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, all iCON controllers work with the M1 Mac.

    • @davidlivingston7014
      @davidlivingston7014 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Iconproaudio Purchased G2 2 days back loving it. Thanks for the reply

  • @MrFelonyLoc
    @MrFelonyLoc ปีที่แล้ว

    how do i put the g2 in vegas mode?

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've never used Vegas but the DAW would have to support HUI or Mackie to connect.

    • @MrFelonyLoc
      @MrFelonyLoc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LonelyRocker you missed my whole question or you dont know what vegas mode is

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh. Haha. I thought you meant Sony Vegas 😂😂😂. You mean all the flashing lights. Power down and hold down the record activate button for track 3 and power on. Try it also with track 5. Enjoy the show 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

  • @justinjones6810
    @justinjones6810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol icon should have hired you to do the product breakdown you did a better job then their own video 😂😂😂

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha...actually if you hunt through Icon's TH-cam channel...you might just see me :))))

  • @MrPearlmasters1
    @MrPearlmasters1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So this video is about what ICON DAW is best for you, not which DAW controller is best.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That’s exactly what it says in the title. I’ve had a ton of requests to do this video.

  • @gnomik33
    @gnomik33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But please make sure you don't buy it for Ableton as for example platform M+ has plenty of issues that are still present after 5 years+

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing. I don’t use Ableton.

  • @morbidmanmusic
    @morbidmanmusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great place. Get rid of the tacky mackie ads everywhere.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha!! I wish I controlled what ads you see but sadly that is all youtube!!

  • @DaRza17
    @DaRza17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shoulda spend that money on some decent monitors lol...

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I quite like my monitors...thank you ;)

  • @darkozoric4184
    @darkozoric4184 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Until they integrate plugin control from the controller....they are nothing but a glorified and expensive mouse. We are getting only partial control of the audio experience through these things. Not worth the expensive $ until plugins can be controlled on them

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I actually disagree. Plugins would have to conform to some standard UI for a universal DAW Controller to be able to control them. And that's not happening. Plugin control is a bonus. To me it's the mixing experience that makes these controllers useful. But we all have different expectations...and that's cool...

  • @MobiusMinded
    @MobiusMinded 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The “best” DAW Controller…. Three choices by the same company…. Ok

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was asked by many to do an Icon gear comparison. I have reached out to other controller manufactures to see if they would like to be covered. Happy to do so if the gear is made available.

  • @mdp303
    @mdp303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So this is just an advertisement for a product. Can’t really see the point of this. I could just go,to the website and look. I don’t know how it cost compares, how well,it works etc. What exactly is this channel for….what’s the point of it? If you want people to subscribe you should make it clear what you’re about.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was not paid for this. I received A TON of requests to do this video because Icon fans wanted to understand the differences between the different units. Sorry it didn’t work for you.

  • @danielstartek9729
    @danielstartek9729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your name must be MacLeod because your opening is "Too Loud MacLeod"!

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  ปีที่แล้ว

      I do all that work and that's what you got out of this???

  • @mrmooch2163
    @mrmooch2163 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 min intro? no thanks

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fingers hurt when you skip forward? That must be tough ;)

  • @TopblokeGolf
    @TopblokeGolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just some feedback, I found myself skipping your videos , you need to get to the point a bit quicker , i

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      All feedback appreciated...thank you.

  • @salintium
    @salintium 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    yeah I just don't buy your advice. You seem more of a gear collector than a real producer/ Eng. All the work going into sound proofing your studio and those are the monitors you use.

    • @LonelyRocker
      @LonelyRocker  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Clearly you don’t have a clue…but ok…