I appreciate both of you so much. Simon made some awesome analogies that really resonated with me. One was like “trying to hang a name tag on air” (in the context of identifying with spaciousness), another was “an internal civil war,” and another had to do with false advertising, which was followed by an ad literally the *exact* second after he said it 😂 ❤
Thank you for pointing out areas that can continue, especially how the sense of embodiment can still exist. That's true here and has been creating doubts. As far as false advertising I feel we are in a new era of finally getting the truth about awakening. Blessings 🙏❤
Here's an amusing thought I had. Emoji's....who are they for? They signify smiling and anger and what not, but they aren't real...essentially we are...an emogi....or human characters are emoji's.
The guy on screen has no idea what you are talking about. And you don’t see this. That’s a problem because you are counseling someone you can’t see deeply.
When it comes to the old character popping up occasionally, it's kind of like you built a house at one point, but then tore it all down, poof it's all gone. You looked through all the destroyed remains ad found one single nail that isn't to bad, you take it, and use it in the new house you build. It doesn't mean a damn thing, but that nail from the old house is in the new house somewhere. So occasionally you have that thought pop up of oh yeah....that nail's still out there or in here somewhere eh? Not bothering anything or doing anything, oh well. Like a thought, it pops up briefly then is gone.
Emotions/feelings are not truth but it seems like they can be blockages to truth…so looking inside includes feeling these in order to get to the place of surrender.
Awareness is "me" even though it's nothingness, despite there being no you. "You" are the awareness trying to be someone/something but that you has no identity. Nothingness can't be aware of itself, it's nothingness, yet we are nothingness. It's all just a silly paradox.
i competely agree resonate don't fight fear our emotions express how we truly feel i'm always ok how i truly feel but everyone else is not ok with it but only some are ok how we truly feel i think it's ok to be honest how we actually trulty feel i also think it's ok if some choose to have fear it doesn't matter to me at all either the only thing i will always don't resonate with is that i'm not actually here or there everything i experience is an fake illusion hologra i don't buy into that at all i will always think that i am actually here or there that everything i experience here and my dream and imagination is real to me in my book that's just my perspective take on it
@@minimal3734 Thanks for sharing that it's not that i aren't there, i obiously are what's false is the idea that i are an object in a world of objects i also want to let you know that i also don't see it that way that i are an object in a world of objects is false it's not false to me that's just my perception but thanks for sharing your perception take i respect that thanks for sharing
so helpful thank you...yes, for me the LOVE thing has kind of been a big carrot/goa so to speak (the way once experienced)...some do radiate that though or are more an expression of it...seems so..
The wholistic Oneness is the realm; containing all things, and that it's always present. Beyond the space of thoughts or sense perceptions, there exists nothing but Consciousness. Our True Self is, thus, a non-linear state of dimension.
Surender can be a technique or a way to look at reality. “Be ok with whatever arises” is a mind trick to control perception in the attempt to remain centered in what feels like the self. Surender is happening. It is currently in the perception. The same with the other millions of things that are currently happening and currently in the perception. Not one of these happenings are more “spiritual” than the other. These millions of happenings is life. The feeling of “nothing is the self” is also one of the millions of happening. Don’t put any importance to that feeling. It’s nothing. It’s only interesting now because it’s a fairly new experience and fun to talk about. What’s wise is to be able to use this realization in a practical way to contribute towards the evolution of consciousness, instead of just observing a new dimension. Although life is happening, therefore the practical will realize itself.
Great topic! Before I listen to the presentation I got the idea that surrender is already the case. How do you drop a tool that's already dropped? "Not my will but Thy will be done" is not a choice, it's a statement of a fact. God is the same as Brahman, changeless. Brahman is all there is. How can we change Brahman? We can't! Because the Atman (individual self) is a facet of that same changeless diamond.
Thank you for this enlightening discussion. Brought a lot of clarity to what I’m experiencing currently. Merry Christmas to all of you and all of the viewers. 🪔🎄🥰🙏🔱
The thing is. The anger is triggered by recent events like aging. How is that anger something that was there before when its now that i feel as a woman i get more and more unloveable🤔
@@DougMotel Mmm. Ego wants to be some perfect thing that is separate from the dream. Never realizing it is the damn dream. It's kinda like Agent Smith from the Matrix...it wants out of the matrix but is from the matrix lol.
i also don't resonate that it's not true that we are god everyhing we created our own reality and i also don't resonate that it's not true that we are special because i do competely agree so resonate most that say we are special and we are gods ourselves we are creators powerful beings i do think that is true
It is a concession to language. None of this stuff has english words invented to describe it so we water it down, speak in riddles and do our best to point to something that is pre verbal.
I think any human language is not suppose to be able to explain any of it. Energy is just is. Nothing and everything. It is its own language I suppose.
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I appreciate both of you so much. Simon made some awesome analogies that really resonated with me. One was like “trying to hang a name tag on air” (in the context of identifying with spaciousness), another was “an internal civil war,” and another had to do with false advertising, which was followed by an ad literally the *exact* second after he said it 😂 ❤
Thank you for pointing out areas that can continue, especially how the sense of embodiment can still exist. That's true here and has been creating doubts. As far as false advertising I feel we are in a new era of finally getting the truth about awakening. Blessings 🙏❤
Love watching Simon's enjoyment of the discovery!
Here's an amusing thought I had. Emoji's....who are they for? They signify smiling and anger and what not, but they aren't real...essentially we are...an emogi....or human characters are emoji's.
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This was a beautiful conversation🎉
The guy on screen has no idea what you are talking about. And you don’t see this. That’s a problem because you are counseling someone you can’t see deeply.
@song-rz6hi I am not counseling anybody, and I do not see any problem in enjoying the conversation and finding it beautiful.
Woah 💎 this one.
Surrender is. It always has been. We're just learning to notice it. ❤
When it comes to the old character popping up occasionally, it's kind of like you built a house at one point, but then tore it all down, poof it's all gone. You looked through all the destroyed remains ad found one single nail that isn't to bad, you take it, and use it in the new house you build. It doesn't mean a damn thing, but that nail from the old house is in the new house somewhere. So occasionally you have that thought pop up of oh yeah....that nail's still out there or in here somewhere eh? Not bothering anything or doing anything, oh well. Like a thought, it pops up briefly then is gone.
Thanks for sharing Simon. ❤️
It is often difficult to find the right words. I also experience this lately often. Thanks for sharing 💪🤭
Wonderful and very helpful 🙏 WOW, very helpful, that there is also identifikation, being awareness. Pure light is remaining.
Wow thank you Simon and Suzanne for sharing ❤
Thanks guys, this was really helpful. Like, really really helpful.
The body hurts to keep trying when there is no point. There is just nothing.
This is such a wonderful conversation.
Emotions/feelings are not truth but it seems like they can be blockages to truth…so looking inside includes feeling these in order to get to the place of surrender.
Cosa vedi quando guardi dentro. Dentro dove? Non c’è dentro, non c’è fuori.
Emotions and feelings are just layers of ego. Foot soldiers, loyal to the illusion.
They're neither truth nor not truth. They are there to be seen. Not to be handled, get rid of, suppressed, expressed, analyzed or anything.
@@minimal3734 Ultimately, yes but the person usually suppresses them and they turn into blockages, that’s what we’re talking about.
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thank you so much for all your sharing
Awareness is "me" even though it's nothingness, despite there being no you. "You" are the awareness trying to be someone/something but that you has no identity. Nothingness can't be aware of itself, it's nothingness, yet we are nothingness. It's all just a silly paradox.
i competely agree resonate don't fight fear our emotions express how we truly feel i'm always ok how i truly feel but everyone else is not ok with it but only some are ok how we truly feel i think it's ok to be honest how we actually trulty feel i also think it's ok if some choose to have fear it doesn't matter to me at all either the only thing i will always don't resonate with is that i'm not actually here or there everything i experience is an fake illusion hologra i don't buy into that at all i will always think that i am actually here or there that everything i experience here and my dream and imagination is real to me in my book that's just my perspective take on it
It's not that you aren't there, you obviously are. What's false is the idea that you are an object in a world of objects.
@@minimal3734 Thanks for sharing that it's not that i aren't there, i obiously are what's false is the idea that i are an object in a world of objects i also want to let you know that i also don't see it that way that i are an object in a world of objects is false it's not false to me that's just my perception but thanks for sharing your perception take i respect that thanks for sharing
Such lovely and genuine conversations.
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Yeah, I've also come to this place where I don't know who I am, and it's perfectly fine as it is.
Knowing who you are is the illusion. It's unknowable, isn't it?
Good comment about the 'loss'. I think emphasizing it so much as Suzan does, is discouraging and also in a way deceiving since so much is gained
so helpful thank you...yes, for me the LOVE thing has kind of been a big carrot/goa so to speak (the way once experienced)...some do radiate that though or are more an expression of it...seems so..
The wholistic Oneness is the realm; containing all things, and that it's always present. Beyond the space of thoughts or sense perceptions, there exists nothing but Consciousness. Our True Self is, thus, a non-linear state of dimension.
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Everything is god. :) but I get you.
No God. Just, nothingness.
Do you guys still have fun and high energy? If not maybe that stillness is opening to higher energies soon enough. Or do you think I’m way off?
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Surender can be a technique or a way to look at reality. “Be ok with whatever arises” is a mind trick to control perception in the attempt to remain centered in what feels like the self. Surender is happening. It is currently in the perception. The same with the other millions of things that are currently happening and currently in the perception. Not one of these happenings are more “spiritual” than the other. These millions of happenings is life. The feeling of “nothing is the self” is also one of the millions of happening. Don’t put any importance to that feeling. It’s nothing. It’s only interesting now because it’s a fairly new experience and fun to talk about. What’s wise is to be able to use this realization in a practical way to contribute towards the evolution of consciousness, instead of just observing a new dimension. Although life is happening, therefore the practical will realize itself.
Great topic! Before I listen to the presentation I got the idea that surrender is already the case. How do you drop a tool that's already dropped? "Not my will but Thy will be done" is not a choice, it's a statement of a fact. God is the same as Brahman, changeless. Brahman is all there is. How can we change Brahman? We can't! Because the Atman (individual self) is a facet of that same changeless diamond.
hello ❤
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Thank you for this enlightening discussion. Brought a lot of clarity to what I’m experiencing currently. Merry Christmas to all of you and all of the viewers. 🪔🎄🥰🙏🔱
PLEASE COULD YOU ACTIVATE SUBTITELS. 🙏
The thing is. The anger is triggered by recent events like aging. How is that anger something that was there before when its now that i feel as a woman i get more and more unloveable🤔
That's the part of the story your character is at is all.
100% but the predicament is that when the ego hears "story" it thinks it is being insulted so it takes umbrage. @@ItApproaches
@@DougMotel Mmm. Ego wants to be some perfect thing that is separate from the dream. Never realizing it is the damn dream. It's kinda like Agent Smith from the Matrix...it wants out of the matrix but is from the matrix lol.
Exactly! @@ItApproaches
i also don't resonate that it's not true that we are god everyhing we created our own reality and i also don't resonate that it's not true that we are special because i do competely agree so resonate most that say we are special and we are gods ourselves we are creators powerful beings i do think that is true
👸🏻🍑💨🎶👃🏽💕🧎🏽. .🏃🏽..🤸🏽➰🛸 umm Suzanne i surrender burn my nose hair umm..
How can things drop away , if there isn’t anything to drop ?
It is a concession to language. None of this stuff has english words invented to describe it so we water it down, speak in riddles and do our best to point to something that is pre verbal.
So you live and you die , in the illusion , do what just do it , what’s the problem ? There isn’t any !🤔😀
This.
I think any human language is not suppose to be able to explain any of it. Energy is just is. Nothing and everything. It is its own language I suppose.
Exactly!
18.44….thank you for saying🫢
is surrendering Grace?
"Grace" would be what comes to meet you once you let go or surrender.