The Constable episode is one of the show's finest....Compelling, nail biting to the end, with the perfect ending not only for the owner's trust in Philip, but the vindication of that young art dealer who already knew his craft but didn't quite believe in himself at that time.
What an amazingly entertaining show this is. Fiona and Philip have kept me up way past my bedtime for several nights now. I often say that I'm not really a person that 'binge-watches' TV shows when asked, but now I will have to confess that I'm completely obsessed with Fake Or Fortune and simply can't get enough. Riveting and educational, so glad I found this great program. Thank you to all that are involved in producing it. Please keep going.
Love this show. As a Portrait painter, who studied at a top art school, and whose family was involved in the art world as dealers for 50 + years.... My 10 second reaction to the Tom Roberts , was it's REAL, late 19th century, a very fine piece of work, and it's a self portrait, look at the long skinny legs. (as his grand daughter confirms 2/3rds of the way through.). I find it amazing that the Australian art authority could say "well it looks like any young man from the late 1800's"...??? poppycock !" I also find the quality of the figure and face extraordinarily great ! I have a very high batting average for guessing the outcomes on this series. I must admit I doubted the Constable but I had never seen his rough sketches before. Wonderful content and very well researched.
Jeepers, the emotion depicted in the Tom Roberts painting is emblematic of emotions Joe must be experiencing going through his trials and tribulations while working so hard only to lose so much. I can see why he was so drawn to it. I'm so glad he hung in there; it was meant for him. I'm so happy for them. I'm so happy for Joe. I almost wish that he could keep that painting but I feel it has served its purpose for him by allowing him to put that chapter of his life to bed and move forward with the means to provide for his family. Who knows, maybe Tom Roberts's spirit presided over that auction and sent that painting Joe's way. I know if I were the artist I'd surely want to see it go to him.
I feel so much pain for a fortune lost by the host..he fervently tried to validate the origin and was thwarted by seniors arrogance..such grace hes displaying..true gentleman
The synagogue of satan took marketing, pharmacia to a high art. How did we get here? Control of these mind control mechanisms from a long time ago. Research this. Art has been $laundering since the get go. Music, film and current media is no exception.
This show is incredible. It does make me wonder how many collectors are unknowingly sitting on a gold mine or if they actually have an unknown forgery.
What a good kind couple. I love your show so much! Wish I could watch them all on Streaming service, but they only have two seasons there. I have to "find" them all here instead. Please make more! :) You make my day every day, and I am so passionate about art history. Philip's passion for the masters is so contagious and I want to be like him! Fiona, you are a gem and such a great counterbalance for Philip...the best duo!!! Thanks to you both!
The Tom Roberts painting's story made me sob so many times while I was watching. The parallels between the painting and Joe's story just made it more emotional.
I love the Forensic and depth of the show! While I feel bad for the host /previous owner, if you think about it, he actually plays a role in the timeline of owners, which is remarkable in itself!
Constable's painting is absolutely beautiful. I can see Constable, right now, sitting somewhere with Albert Bierstadt and Thomas Moran, enjoying each other's company and talking about painting. I would love to be there with them just to listen.
Fake or Fortune started season 11 a month ago. I wish we had some different episodes on here. Its the only place I can view them 😢 I watch these episodes several times a year as I keep coming back to check for more episodes. Ive been hooked since I watched the first season over a decade ago, on TV here in New Zealand. Three of my favourite things rolled into one, Art, History and Forensic Investigations.
@@PlatinumIrishrose Yea I had been watching that show and thoroughly enjoy it. Especially Baldrick (Tony Robinson but forever Baldrick to me 😂). I haven't watched it in about a year though coz the last few times I watched it, there had been an entirely different team. No Tony and no Phil. It just wasn't the same without them. 😭 I REALLY, REALLY loved the Britain's Bloody Crown Series too. Probably my favourite so far. Cheers, thanks for the recommendation anyway. Exactly the sort of stuff I like watching 👏
The reason the Constable stopped being considered a "Constable " is because the rich folks no longer own it. I'm sure no one would have told Lucy Doheny Battson that her painting was a fake. 😄
Tom Roberts' sketch book provided the bulk of evidence, esp given that there are no official records for the painting. A forger would not have had access to the sketch books and so would not have known about the composition. I really felt for the Australian couple throughout their episode. I was thrilled for them when the final decision was read!
I was a odd child while most ten year olds were saving money to purchase a bicycle, i saved for a drawing. I'm so glad now that all the artwork I ever purchased, I would write a letter of when and where I purchased it with the receipt attached to a envelope on the back. I met my life partner at thier art exhibit where I commisioned a piece from them. I purchased many, many pieces over the years and had many commissions I paid always giving each artist the same exact instructions of a rough idea that i wanted painted always the same subject. Now behind my desk and surrounding my office walls is a scene depicted by around 175 artists in thier own interpretations. I also made sure that they never saw my collection before hand, amazing enough there is no two that are the same all distinct differences, I even have several sculptures of the same scene, even jewelry and for when I'm gone a memorial form of graveyard sculpture. I have been extremely lucky that I was able to purchase many before they were famous, or known artists.
I can’t believe that lady’s comments about “Rejection”. I find the man’s fave and presence to be the most compelling and moving part of it. It definitely speaks to me
The art dealer receipt handwriting that looks like "oil on hefer" is trying to say "oil on paper". John Constable, the British artist known for his landscape paintings, often painted studies in oil on paper.
I was watching the one about Churchill I’m France, and it made me realize how unfair it is to go back and ask someone who has given it a thumbs down to admit they’re wrong and admit it IS painted by the artist in question. Pride alone will screw the owners out of thousands. Sad really.
A chemical analysis of the paint used from the back of the painting along with that a of a known painting of Tom Robert's would be a legitimate analysis, and about a 100% confirmation of legitimacy of the painting, as artists back then generally mixed their own paints from pigments, and oils. Their Robert's painting has all the hallmarks of his work and is a beautiful painting. A very good investment. I doubt there was someone that long ago who would've been copying his works. Well done.
I dont believe the harsh criticisms of this programme are entirely fair. Not everyone has seen all these superbly entertaining programs..or, as in my case, I had only seen one of them. Glad to see the others.
I fully expect that quite soon, TOW will be offering mosaic wall/countertop decor created from"..... recycled porcelain and ceramic plates..."The tesserae(small pieces) carefully-selected by the Duchess herself...an utterly brilliant way to make practical use of accidentally-broken plates from the Duchess's very own china cabinet, and hand-crafted according to her exacting standards of Art and Style." Of course she would happen onto this "hands-on" opportunity to sell HER rage-shattered "flying saucers"...and plates".
Wait, so who took off the extra coat of paint on the Constable? Old lady Battson? Her husband? Because the 1950s sale catalog of the painting showed that tree in full bloom, and then the real painting had all of that stripped away. Is that the reason the experts in the 1990s sale of the estate thought it was a fake Constable? Why did the Battsons not have any records of this stripping away of paint? Was it an art conservator in California who did this? It would’ve been nice if this bit of the mystery had been filled out. Instead I’m left here guessing about a rather important part of the provenance trail. As for young Philip Mould in the 1990s, trying to prove this was a real Constable? He didn’t have access to those two sketches that proved the painting was the real deal. One was buried in a private art collection Philip had no idea existed (the present owner dug that one up) and the other was in some random museum in the south of France. He was only able to view that sketch because he got a fine digital copy of it. In the 1990s this was not possible.
It seems that the original owners of the CONSTABLE painting could sue the auction house in London that said it was a fake and then sold it for less than it was worth. They were definitely cheated since it is now proved to be a real Constable.
So Joe and his wife aren’t renting an apartment? Isn’t she working? Isn’t he? I have no doubt they were under stress because their business failed but this seemed a bit over dramatic. Curious to know what their apartment looked like.
In the seco d half it looks like she is putting her fingers ON the painting. I certainly hope not. Maybe she was only pointing, but one should never put fingers on any painting.
i am an artist, the sketch is a fake. i Felt it from the word go! my reasoning to escape my superstitions: the stroke directions shows it was done by someone different. the free handendness in the painting, the twirls, they lack on the sketch. yet they are the most basic of the notable pattern
Mate, you are seeing a picture taken with a 1916 camera, that has been digitalised and you are watching it through a pc screen. the contrast is higher, while the original picture is faded because of time and sunlight. The sketch is original, the provenance quite clear.
@@benediktmorak4409in this case it is a compilation of multiple episodes, just the intro is the same. After that the next episode starts. I find it very practical to have it in the background while doing my chores, sketching or work.
Sorry no thumbs up. No likes. And i am off after a few minutes. A glued together of old Episodes. i don't even care to find out if it is really 2.48 hours.
@@QuiltedKittenFosters others also want to know. Like i am glad when i read replies like that. So i don't waste my time watching and only to find out it is all just one more -downloader - jumping on to the bandwagon. Splicing together some popular episodes. and make money out of it.
The Constable episode is one of the show's finest....Compelling, nail biting to the end, with the perfect ending not only for the owner's trust in Philip, but the vindication of that young art dealer who already knew his craft but didn't quite believe in himself at that time.
i would use my tongue to shine fiona's boots, that's a fact
@@deacy_6218 👅👢 😜🤣
I can not agree more. Not the boots, but Craig Barron's observations. All in all, this is a very engaging series.
What an amazingly entertaining show this is. Fiona and Philip have kept me up way past my bedtime for several nights now. I often say that I'm not really a person that 'binge-watches' TV shows when asked, but now I will have to confess that I'm completely obsessed with Fake Or Fortune and simply can't get enough. Riveting and educational, so glad I found this great program. Thank you to all that are involved in producing it. Please keep going.
Love this show. As a Portrait painter, who studied at a top art school, and whose family was involved in the art world as dealers for 50 + years.... My 10 second reaction to the Tom Roberts , was it's REAL, late 19th century, a very fine piece of work, and it's a self portrait, look at the long skinny legs. (as his grand daughter confirms 2/3rds of the way through.). I find it amazing that the Australian art authority could say "well it looks like any young man from the late 1800's"...??? poppycock !" I also find the quality of the figure and face extraordinarily great ! I have a very high batting average for guessing the outcomes on this series. I must admit I doubted the Constable but I had never seen his rough sketches before. Wonderful content and very well researched.
Jeepers, the emotion depicted in the Tom Roberts painting is emblematic of emotions Joe must be experiencing going through his trials and tribulations while working so hard only to lose so much. I can see why he was so drawn to it. I'm so glad he hung in there; it was meant for him. I'm so happy for them. I'm so happy for Joe. I almost wish that he could keep that painting but I feel it has served its purpose for him by allowing him to put that chapter of his life to bed and move forward with the means to provide for his family. Who knows, maybe Tom Roberts's spirit presided over that auction and sent that painting Joe's way. I know if I were the artist I'd surely want to see it go to him.
888q5 😊😅😊😊😅😅😅😅
I feel so much pain for a fortune lost by the host..he fervently tried to validate the origin and was thwarted by seniors arrogance..such grace hes displaying..true gentleman
The synagogue of satan took marketing, pharmacia to a high art. How did we get here? Control of these mind control mechanisms from a long time ago. Research this. Art has been $laundering since the get go. Music, film and current media is no exception.
I was SO excited for Joe, when the Tom Roberts "Rejected" was finally accepted. I was crying tears of joy for Joe.
This show is incredible. It does make me wonder how many collectors are unknowingly sitting on a gold mine or if they actually have an unknown forgery.
I am so glad I found this channel. Fake or fortune is amazing.
What a good kind couple. I love your show so much! Wish I could watch them all on Streaming service, but they only have two seasons there. I have to "find" them all here instead. Please make more! :) You make my day every day, and I am so passionate about art history. Philip's passion for the masters is so contagious and I want to be like him! Fiona, you are a gem and such a great counterbalance for Philip...the best duo!!! Thanks to you both!
Just a terrific show. So well done, supported by a pair of charming and dedicated researchers.
The Tom Roberts painting's story made me sob so many times while I was watching. The parallels between the painting and Joe's story just made it more emotional.
I love the Forensic and depth of the show! While I feel bad for the host /previous owner, if you think about it, he actually plays a role in the timeline of owners, which is remarkable in itself!
Indeed.
Constable's painting is absolutely beautiful. I can see Constable, right now, sitting somewhere with Albert Bierstadt and Thomas Moran, enjoying each other's company and talking about painting. I would love to be there with them just to listen.
Fake or Fortune started season 11 a month ago. I wish we had some different episodes on here. Its the only place I can view them 😢 I watch these episodes several times a year as I keep coming back to check for more episodes. Ive been hooked since I watched the first season over a decade ago, on TV here in New Zealand. Three of my favourite things rolled into one, Art, History and Forensic Investigations.
If you enjoy history, look up Time Team. A British show having to do with Anthropology and, well, you'll see! Give it a chance.❤🎉
@@PlatinumIrishrose Yea I had been watching that show and thoroughly enjoy it. Especially Baldrick (Tony Robinson but forever Baldrick to me 😂). I haven't watched it in about a year though coz the last few times I watched it, there had been an entirely different team. No Tony and no Phil. It just wasn't the same without them. 😭 I REALLY, REALLY loved the Britain's Bloody Crown Series too. Probably my favourite so far. Cheers, thanks for the recommendation anyway. Exactly the sort of stuff I like watching 👏
This show is truly sensational.
Yes! So lucky to stumble upon it. I've enjoyed all the episodes I can find.
This is a big part of why I collect Art, it's the journey. As always Collect what you love.
Every time they say “Willie Lott’s cottage,” take a drink! Please don’t drive!
Loving the Constable episode. Such an incredible trail of provenance. Wow 🤩
The reason the Constable stopped being considered a "Constable " is because the rich folks no longer own it. I'm sure no one would have told Lucy Doheny Battson that her painting was a fake. 😄
Congratulations!!! I just LOVE seeing people WIN!!!
Tom Roberts' sketch book provided the bulk of evidence, esp given that there are no official records for the painting. A forger would not have had access to the sketch books and so would not have known about the composition.
I really felt for the Australian couple throughout their episode. I was thrilled for them when the final decision was read!
I was a odd child while most ten year olds were saving money to purchase a bicycle, i saved for a drawing. I'm so glad now that all the artwork I ever purchased, I would write a letter of when and where I purchased it with the receipt attached to a envelope on the back. I met my life partner at thier art exhibit where I commisioned a piece from them. I purchased many, many pieces over the years and had many commissions I paid always giving each artist the same exact instructions of a rough idea that i wanted painted always the same subject. Now behind my desk and surrounding my office walls is a scene depicted by around 175 artists in thier own interpretations. I also made sure that they never saw my collection before hand, amazing enough there is no two that are the same all distinct differences, I even have several sculptures of the same scene, even jewelry and for when I'm gone a memorial form of graveyard sculpture. I have been extremely lucky that I was able to purchase many before they were famous, or known artists.
@davidariamirroarkyoung Might I ask what is the subject of commissioned works and if the collection is publicly available in digital form?
Love this episode, it is repeat from not too long ago.
I can’t believe that lady’s comments about “Rejection”. I find the man’s fave and presence to be the most compelling and moving part of it. It definitely speaks to me
The art dealer receipt handwriting that looks like "oil on hefer" is trying to say "oil on paper". John Constable, the British artist known for his landscape paintings, often painted studies in oil on paper.
Wow! Another amazing episode!! Thank you!
Just great entertainment. Thanks to you and your team!
Duuuuude....! You REALLY should have kept that painting, what a riveting show you guys have, I LOVE IT
I was watching the one about Churchill I’m France, and it made me realize how unfair it is to go back and ask someone who has given it a thumbs down to admit they’re wrong and admit it IS painted by the artist in question. Pride alone will screw the owners out of thousands. Sad really.
Ha. I had no idea Fiona Bruce had another job!
A chemical analysis of the paint used from the back of the painting along with that a of a known painting of Tom Robert's would be a legitimate analysis, and about a 100% confirmation of legitimacy of the painting, as artists back then generally mixed their own paints from pigments, and oils.
Their Robert's painting has all the hallmarks of his work and is a beautiful painting.
A very good investment. I doubt there was someone that long ago who would've been copying his works.
Well done.
I feel it is a beautiful and moving painting
You wrote off gauguin’s rape of children in Tahiti quite summarily.
I loved the peaches 🍑 and the incredible use of color was convincing to me .
Awesome result. The artworld is sometimes overcautious when it comes to reversing a decision made by a reputable entity.
SO GOOD!
I so enjoy this program
This is so interesting!!!
These are fascinating
I've seen some fakes that the public accepts as legit, even when they are warned that they appear to possibly be a fake.
When will there be new episodes?
September
It's very interesting, thank's very much 😮
The last Gogan could be a Ricardo Grúa. A Peruvian artist who painted and studied in Paris and if I’m not mistaken he signed RG
Thank you. I have not seen this episode
At 2.35.30 he is pointing at Catalogue number 190, whereas on the back of the sketch it´s number 180..which could fit as well
Congratulations 🎉
WHEN IS THE NEW SEASON COMING PLEASE???
I dont believe the harsh criticisms of this programme are entirely fair. Not everyone has seen all these superbly entertaining programs..or, as in my case, I had only seen one of them. Glad to see the others.
I fully expect that quite soon, TOW will be offering mosaic wall/countertop decor created from"..... recycled porcelain and ceramic plates..."The tesserae(small pieces) carefully-selected by the Duchess herself...an utterly brilliant way to make practical use of accidentally-broken plates from the Duchess's very own china cabinet, and hand-crafted according to her exacting standards of Art and Style."
Of course she would happen onto this "hands-on" opportunity to sell HER rage-shattered "flying saucers"...and plates".
I still think that when a person drinks a lot in my opinion it does effect their moods.
Wait, so who took off the extra coat of paint on the Constable? Old lady Battson? Her husband? Because the 1950s sale catalog of the painting showed that tree in full bloom, and then the real painting had all of that stripped away. Is that the reason the experts in the 1990s sale of the estate thought it was a fake Constable? Why did the Battsons not have any records of this stripping away of paint? Was it an art conservator in California who did this? It would’ve been nice if this bit of the mystery had been filled out. Instead I’m left here guessing about a rather important part of the provenance trail.
As for young Philip Mould in the 1990s, trying to prove this was a real Constable? He didn’t have access to those two sketches that proved the painting was the real deal. One was buried in a private art collection Philip had no idea existed (the present owner dug that one up) and the other was in some random museum in the south of France. He was only able to view that sketch because he got a fine digital copy of it. In the 1990s this was not possible.
There should be a whole episode sometime in 🇺🇸
What about the "Rightful" owners of the Constable?
The opening of the show has a great floral painting in the background I’m wondering who is the artist. Hope someone might know.
Klimt?
It seems that the original owners of the CONSTABLE painting could sue the auction house in London that said it was a fake and then sold it for less than it was worth. They were definitely cheated since it is now proved to be a real Constable.
Proper hangover TV
>>>>>>> HO HUM !!!!!! TIME FOR A COLD ONE, AND ANOTHER SUBJECT !!!!!!!
Not to be mean, but many people of Color has lost a lot yet stood up strong and start again. 😮
Thomas James Art Collection -- on TH-cam
Whoa
The art world is so illogical. Just because someone is famous doesn't make them the best.
The haywane from Jeroen Bosch is much better 🤫
Making an entire herd of aurochs on one moon is fortune no matter how you slice it. Whatcha gonna do with it?
What happened to Dr Barndoor Governor?
So Joe and his wife aren’t renting an apartment? Isn’t she working? Isn’t he? I have no doubt they were under stress because their business failed but this seemed a bit over dramatic. Curious to know what their apartment looked like.
"I CAN'T COPE WITH THIS ROLLERCOASTER OF RE-POSTS."
😭😭😭
Shocked to hear about that nazi list. I shudder to think what would have happened to those people.
In the seco d half it looks like she is putting her fingers ON the painting. I certainly hope not. Maybe she was only pointing, but one should never put fingers on any painting.
Wow really lol
Stream in painting..clear and running. Stream now...full of algae from nitrogen pollution. Makes me sad.
i am an artist, the sketch is a fake. i Felt it from the word go! my reasoning to escape my superstitions: the stroke directions shows it was done by someone different. the free handendness in the painting, the twirls, they lack on the sketch. yet they are the most basic of the notable pattern
i prefer the opinion of experts over ''i am an artist''.
Mate, you are seeing a picture taken with a 1916 camera, that has been digitalised and you are watching it through a pc screen. the contrast is higher, while the original picture is faded because of time and sunlight. The sketch is original, the provenance quite clear.
How will AI assist in authentication?
It shouldn't.
Old episodes that are repackaged, no thanks
Where are the black people.
It's far too long for reruns to sit and watch. I'm very disappointed.
agree. i did not even watch to the end. most of these times these long hours are only clickbait. and after 45 minutes all begins over once more.
@@benediktmorak4409in this case it is a compilation of multiple episodes, just the intro is the same. After that the next episode starts. I find it very practical to have it in the background while doing my chores, sketching or work.
@@katalinelo8011 same I have been making my way through these while working on my costume for a Halloween competition.
clutching at straws, its so cringey how they are trying to flog a fake Constable as a real one.
Thanks Professor.
Sorry no thumbs up. No likes. And i am off after a few minutes. A glued together of old Episodes. i don't even care to find out if it is really 2.48 hours.
But if this is the first one you see it’s a different attitude….
@@juliamcgrath3364 my comment is - me- personally. if -others - will see it for the first time, good for them.
This is not a train station. No need to announce your departure. Just leave quietly.
@@QuiltedKittenFosters others also want to know.
Like i am glad when i read replies like that.
So i don't waste my time watching and only to find out it is all just one more -downloader - jumping on to the bandwagon.
Splicing together some popular episodes. and make money out of it.
@@QuiltedKittenFosters
"AAAALLL ABOARRRRRRD!!!" You are NOT incorrect!!