First and foremost, great playing, and thank you for doing a tone comparison the right way. We hear exactly what comes out of those amps and NOT how crazy someone went with their ProTools. As a Fender guy- I currently have a Vibro Champ- I have to say when you bypassed the pedal board and went straight into the amps, that Magnatone was sublime. I'm still Team Fender, but I'm going to closely look at Magnatone and see if there's something apartment friendly I might pick up. LOL Great demo and, again, great pickin'! Thanks.🤘🏼
I have a 65” Deluxe Reverb Reissue and a Vox AC-15c1 and run them both in stereo using my Strymon Volante. It’s got that magic. I use the Keeley Oxblood as my main overdrive. 🇺🇸
@@gryphon37 If you get a chance look up the Danelectro Daddy-O OD pedal' cheap but well built pedal' EQ lets you dial in OD/Distorted tones. Good with other pedals' outta the 7 OD pedals I own it's the best so far.... only draw back is it's size and it's kinda fugly looking. Works
I owned the Magnatone Twilight and wound up selling it. It was very capable and the pitch shifting tremolo was cool but I found it to be very 'forward' and "in-your-face'. I have owned a Fender 64 Deluxe Reverb Custom Hardwired for several years now and simply put, it is "musical". It has a way of sounding dimensional where the sound it not as focused or punchy as the Twilighter. Great demo sir. I too admire your skills, chops and talent.
The Magnatone sounds wonderful. But the Fender is no slouch and I would be perfectly happy with either of those amps. I love 'em both. Maybe an attenuator would help open up the Magnetone more for home use? Nice playing too Derrick!
Hey man, great video. Personally i like better how the Fender sounds, warmer maybe? Also maybe due to where the mic was in the room but to me the Fender better balanced in the mid freqs. Thanks for sharing
Nice demo, thank you! The Magnatone did sound great, but I think the Deluxe would be my choice. The Deluxe seemed to have little more definition overall. Thanks Derrick, Cheers!
I’ve owned most all vintage 60s Blackface Fenders, just for reference. I’ll take that Magatone over the new handwired Deluxe hands down, thick body tone, more organic more natural, got punch, rounded highs. The Fender sounds thin with brittle highs, no girth.
Very nice video Derrick. Came looking for the Magnatone and pleased to see the comparison with the HW '64 (which I already have). Hmmmm, both sound excellent with your chops. I'm sure I could make them sound somewhat mediocre. Love the look on both. Somehow Fender seemed to capture my idea of cabinet height to width ratio with their amps. It just looks correct and balanced. Maybe that's because those are the amps I've seen most. The Magnatone is no slouch in the looks department though. I have to give a shout out to PhilX for making many of us aware of the brand. I'm not sure I'd know about Magnatone if I hadn't seen his videos. Anyhoo, again nice playing. I liked and subscribed. Hope to keep enjoying your content in the future.
Nice playing, Derrick! To these ears, if you graphed the frequency response of these two amps, the Fender graph would be shaped like a “u” (scooped mids) and the Magnatone like an “n” (prominent mids). Different strokes for different folks, of course, but they each sound great in their own way!
Great playing, both sound great. I think the Deluxe is a little more tailored to a Tele, where all the best sounds I've heard from a Twilighter have been with Gibson-style guitars. The sounds that Big Thief get with their Twilighters are giant.
One thing this video demonstrates, you can’t go wrong with a fender deluxe. At some point whether silver face or blackface, new construction or vintage. I am definitely adding a deluxe to my gear
@@voxpathfinder15r the deluxe reverb is the greatest amp ever made in my opinion! Perfect size, volume, tone, simplicity, and weight. Everything about it is perfect for gigging and recording.
Sounds great if you’re using your cell phone to record with try putting it in the center of the amps not off to the side give it a little bit more accurate volume
I had the twilighter stereo, and it was warmer for sure. It lacks the crispy brightness of the Fender for sure. Which was ultimately why I sold it and got two vintage brown face fenders instead.
Thanks for a nice comparison - liked and subscribed as anyone should do. The most obvious difference in voicing of the two for my ears happened when you plugged direct. And it really is very interesting how these two amps with very similar topology can sound different, not only tone-wise, but also volume-wise. I would like very much to hear more comparison of these amps from you. Maybe with sm57, maybe plug Magnatone to Fender cab/speaker and vice versa... I think it would be very interesting. Cheers!
The Magnatone sounds cool but seems even a bit more scooped than the Deluxe which is crazy. I can imagine the Magnatone sound sitting in an interesting place on some recordings but in most cases or in solo I think I would chose the Deluxe. Have you considered what speaker is in the Magnatone? If it's a high efficiency one then a less sensitive speaker might help with the volume issue somewhat.
@@7171jay if you put a less efficient speaker in the magnatone it would break up to early and never get where the tubes are working good. It’s just a loud amp. Perfect for outdoor gigs
Magnatone Panoramic stereo really is in a class of its own, even when stacked against stellar amps like Fender. Nothing else has that magic for me. I do prefer a Gibson tone with these over a Fender guitar.
A Deluxe Reverb FSR with a Celestion speaker is being released in 2025 . That would be an interesting comparison in the future . Deluxe Reverb possibly sounds better at lower volumes .
If you ever want to “upgrade” I’d avoid the fender handwired deluxe. $3199 is for the handwired and pine cabinet but they cheap out on components and use quick connect wires instead of accurately soldering them. They also added reverb to both channels making it have this constant hum even at low volumes. Your normal deluxe sounds more or less the same, it’s just the speaker. The handwired deluxe also breaks up a lot quicker. Go to a boutique Brand if you ever decide to upgrade that doesn’t cheap out.
The speaker in DlxR HW (Jensen C-12Q) is disastrous crap. Swap it to superior Jensen Tornado Classic 100. Plug in the Normal channel and it beats Two Rock - used to have TR.
@@samizdat113 deluxe has a Jensen c12q and the magnatone has a magnatone branded speaker, I believe it is a WGS g12c but I’m not 100% sure of that. If so, I know for a fact those speakers are crazy loud.
First and foremost, great playing, and thank you for doing a tone comparison the right way. We hear exactly what comes out of those amps and NOT how crazy someone went with their ProTools.
As a Fender guy- I currently have a Vibro Champ- I have to say when you bypassed the pedal board and went straight into the amps, that Magnatone was sublime. I'm still Team Fender, but I'm going to closely look at Magnatone and see if there's something apartment friendly I might pick up. LOL
Great demo and, again, great pickin'! Thanks.🤘🏼
I have a 65” Deluxe Reverb Reissue and a Vox AC-15c1 and run them both in stereo using my Strymon Volante. It’s got that magic. I use the Keeley Oxblood as my main overdrive. 🇺🇸
That oxblood is such a good pedal. It's my go-to as well 👍
@@gryphon37 - I’ve owned many OD pedals throughout my career and the Oxblood in conjunction with my Exotic’s EP booster is all I need to do the work.
@chuckdriver8269 I'll have to give the EP a try. I use their SP compressor and like it quite a bit.
@@gryphon37
If you get a chance look up the Danelectro Daddy-O OD pedal' cheap but well built pedal' EQ lets you dial in OD/Distorted tones. Good with other pedals' outta the 7 OD pedals I own it's the best so far.... only draw back is it's size and it's kinda fugly looking.
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I owned the Magnatone Twilight and wound up selling it. It was very capable and the pitch shifting tremolo was cool but I found it to be very 'forward' and "in-your-face'. I have owned a Fender 64 Deluxe Reverb Custom Hardwired for several years now and simply put, it is "musical". It has a way of sounding dimensional where the sound it not as focused or punchy as the Twilighter. Great demo sir. I too admire your skills, chops and talent.
You had el84s in the twilighter?
@@Dave-rk2nlno, the twilighter does not have EL84 tube sockets . It was 6v6’s
most of that is from the stock magnatone speakers they benefit from some warmer alnico speakers imo.
i had a vintage 65 DR. all original except some caps. it was amazing. not the same as the custom DR. i used a brown box which made a huge difference.
The Magnatone sounds wonderful. But the Fender is no slouch and I would be perfectly happy with either of those amps. I love 'em both. Maybe an attenuator would help open up the Magnetone more for home use? Nice playing too Derrick!
Hey man, great video. Personally i like better how the Fender sounds, warmer maybe? Also maybe due to where the mic was in the room but to me the Fender better balanced in the mid freqs. Thanks for sharing
Magnatone's highs and body have my attention, although you can't go wrong with a Deluxe.
Nice demo, thank you! The Magnatone did sound great, but I think the Deluxe would be my choice. The Deluxe seemed to have little more definition overall. Thanks Derrick, Cheers!
Super helpful comparison. Have been curious about the twilighter. Princeton player myself. Also i dig your taste in pedals!
What are the chances id see you in a random video
@@BrandonJGuitarist001 HAHAHA no way!!!
Both amps sound great but you're playing is off the charts !! Mighty fine !!
I’ve owned most all vintage 60s Blackface Fenders, just for reference. I’ll take that Magatone over the new handwired Deluxe hands down, thick body tone, more organic more natural, got punch, rounded highs. The Fender sounds thin with brittle highs, no girth.
Very nice video Derrick. Came looking for the Magnatone and pleased to see the comparison with the HW '64 (which I already have). Hmmmm, both sound excellent with your chops. I'm sure I could make them sound somewhat mediocre. Love the look on both. Somehow Fender seemed to capture my idea of cabinet height to width ratio with their amps. It just looks correct and balanced. Maybe that's because those are the amps I've seen most. The Magnatone is no slouch in the looks department though. I have to give a shout out to PhilX for making many of us aware of the brand. I'm not sure I'd know about Magnatone if I hadn't seen his videos. Anyhoo, again nice playing. I liked and subscribed. Hope to keep enjoying your content in the future.
@@hideawayblues6878 Lukas Nelson was the one who showed them to me!
Holy that magnatone sounds insanely good!
Your camera being closer to the Magnatone made it sound fuller. I liked both, depending on what you were playing.
Nice playing, Derrick! To these ears, if you graphed the frequency response of these two amps, the Fender graph would be shaped like a “u” (scooped mids) and the Magnatone like an “n” (prominent mids). Different strokes for different folks, of course, but they each sound great in their own way!
Great playing, both sound great. I think the Deluxe is a little more tailored to a Tele, where all the best sounds I've heard from a Twilighter have been with Gibson-style guitars. The sounds that Big Thief get with their Twilighters are giant.
One thing this video demonstrates, you can’t go wrong with a fender deluxe. At some point whether silver face or blackface, new construction or vintage. I am definitely adding a deluxe to my gear
@@voxpathfinder15r the deluxe reverb is the greatest amp ever made in my opinion! Perfect size, volume, tone, simplicity, and weight. Everything about it is perfect for gigging and recording.
Both amps sound great. I personally preferred the sound of the Magnatone. Nice comparison video!
I like the sound of the fender better
Absolutely fantastic have a wonderful day also a fantastic weekend ❤😊
3:14 some sheryl crow!!
I have owned a Super Reverb and a Bassman Reissue that I loved.As much as I love Fender that Magnatone has it going on!
The deluxe is good until you need to play outside and realise that a transistor radio has more volume.
What kinda gigs are you playing where you can’t be heard on a Deluxe 😂😂
Sounds great if you’re using your cell phone to record with try putting it in the center of the amps not off to the side give it a little bit more accurate volume
The Magnatone sounds fuller to me, while the Fender sounds much boxier and dark. I like the magnatone… very vintage sounding which is my style.
I had the twilighter stereo, and it was warmer for sure. It lacks the crispy brightness of the Fender for sure. Which was ultimately why I sold it and got two vintage brown face fenders instead.
it sounds fuller cuz it's closer to the camera mic
Yep, the Magnatone speaker was more on axis than the Fender. Evensong, a great demo of these amps. Thinking of getting one of each. Thanks.
Really nice playing Derrick !!
Thanks for a nice comparison - liked and subscribed as anyone should do. The most obvious difference in voicing of the two for my ears happened when you plugged direct. And it really is very interesting how these two amps with very similar topology can sound different, not only tone-wise, but also volume-wise. I would like very much to hear more comparison of these amps from you. Maybe with sm57, maybe plug Magnatone to Fender cab/speaker and vice versa... I think it would be very interesting. Cheers!
The Magnatone sounds more like a 6L6GC to me.
That song is a G-major.. not minor. Sounds good anyway
The Magnatone sounds cool but seems even a bit more scooped than the Deluxe which is crazy. I can imagine the Magnatone sound sitting in an interesting place on some recordings but in most cases or in solo I think I would chose the Deluxe.
Have you considered what speaker is in the Magnatone? If it's a high efficiency one then a less sensitive speaker might help with the volume issue somewhat.
@@7171jay if you put a less efficient speaker in the magnatone it would break up to early and never get where the tubes are working good. It’s just a loud amp. Perfect for outdoor gigs
Love your playing
dont know if the magnatone is closer to the mic, but I def like it better
Magnatone Panoramic stereo really is in a class of its own, even when stacked against stellar amps like Fender. Nothing else has that magic for me. I do prefer a Gibson tone with these over a Fender guitar.
Dobrá práce 👍👍👍
great pickin
The deluxe sounds like it has more presence and a bit more clarity.
Magnatone looks cool 😎
what's the riff at 5:58? Both sound amazing Magnatone by a nose for me
@@ojaisherpa a song I’ve been working on, I found the riff and just been trying to refine it.
A Deluxe Reverb FSR with a Celestion speaker is being released in 2025 .
That would be an interesting comparison in the future .
Deluxe Reverb possibly sounds better at lower volumes .
Which ever one you decide to sell let me know. Both amps sound great just different.
@@flashingit the magnatone is for sale!
When you twangle the plank it go like booooiiinngg - no doubt oh yes 😊
Is the magnatone 6v6 or El 84?
This may be a dumb question but does the hand wired deluxe sound different from a regular deluxe? I've got a standard model and love it.
@@cerealkiller5688 slightly. It has more presence if anything. The speaker is the biggest difference.
@@Derrick_Rucker ahhh, thx
If you ever want to “upgrade” I’d avoid the fender handwired deluxe. $3199 is for the handwired and pine cabinet but they cheap out on components and use quick connect wires instead of accurately soldering them. They also added reverb to both channels making it have this constant hum even at low volumes. Your normal deluxe sounds more or less the same, it’s just the speaker. The handwired deluxe also breaks up a lot quicker. Go to a boutique Brand if you ever decide to upgrade that doesn’t cheap out.
@@TweedTones This is the 64 handwired deluxe reverb
@@Derrick_Rucker I know
How are you getting reverb on the normal channel of the Deluxe?
@@darwinsaye on the fender deluxe reverb 64 handwired series reverb and tremolo is on both channels.
Have you ever opened for your dad darius?
Fender is the amp you wan't to be heard
The speaker in DlxR HW (Jensen C-12Q) is disastrous crap. Swap it to superior Jensen Tornado Classic 100. Plug in the Normal channel and it beats Two Rock - used to have TR.
What speakers are they running?
@@samizdat113 deluxe has a Jensen c12q and the magnatone has a magnatone branded speaker, I believe it is a WGS g12c but I’m not 100% sure of that. If so, I know for a fact those speakers are crazy loud.
@@Derrick_RuckerActually it's a WGS G12C/S in Magnatone. Which is 100dB od sensitivity. Jensen C12Q is 93.2dB. Huge difference!
Yes agree with the wgs speakers being loud....I put 2 in my 1970s pro reverb....far too efficient,may as well have bought a twin reverb !!
Fender for me.
I cringe when people lay there guitars like that ? So bad for the neck