‼ DISCLAIMER ‼ I did forget RIIZE in the ranking and I am SORRY about it. They'd be right over Super Junior, as I only enjoy Get a Guitar (#2) and Memories (#1) from them! But I love both songs so they deserve to be a bit higher than the groups below UMG also forced me to cut a segment of SuperM for some reason, so I'm sorry if it looks awkward now!
@@aie44444 If my memory is correct, I said "The true supergroup, the lineup is almost entirely made out insanely talented individuals. Sadly, I mostly only loved their first Mini Album. I had the chance to see them live and I will forever be grateful for it, they truly know how to make a show!"
Love how Wayv is your favorite NCT sub unit! I really love their albums and as I'm currently taking my second chinese course in college, it's so fun to study with their songs haha
I would loveeee to learn mandarin, it's such a beautiful language, same goes for cantonese but I can't quote every dialect out there but you get my point haha
My favorite SM artist is Red Velvet but I adore a lot of the music of the artists under it. And yes, you should make this a series, I want to know your ranking of other companies' artists
@@viviylleia Ooh, great, can't wait to see your JYP ranking (and your opinion on Xdinary Heroes, if I'm being honest) I understand holding off from HYBE for a time, considering the current shitshow they are in now
@@albarr953 Yeah, I don't want to 1) create more fanwars than there already are 2) have people thinking I'm releasing this because it's a trendy topic right now
Was holding my breath when I realized Red Velvet and Shinee would be the top 2. Then let it out when Shinee got #1!!! Using a clip of Evil too omg ... you're so correct that's one of their best songs ever.
My favorite sm group is definitely f(x), one day i never heard of them and now their in my top 5 groups ever. Also jet changed lives (atleast it changed mine)!
I wanna do this: 1. EXO (Everything about them is perfect, i dont have anything else to say, SM wasted so much) 2. NCT Dream (Used to dislike their songs, now I love them, my fav sub unit of NCT) 3. Super Junior (Was my very first kpop group back then 10 years ago, they aren't anymore my fav group, neither a top 10 place but I grew up listening to their music and watching their shows, it was the first boyband I truly stanned, the "i just wanted to know their names" I found SHINee and TVXQ thanks to them so here we are a decade after) 4. SHINee (They were my second kpop group and the reason I wanted to look for more kpop groups, i might not stan as much as before but they have a special place) 5. TVXQ (Truly legends of kpop, i was so into them when i got into kpop) 6. NCT 127 (Their songs are either a hit or a miss for me so that makes me difficult to stan them) 7. SNSD (Not truly into ggs but they are the definition of iconic) 8. WayV (Awaken the world album >>>>>) 9. NCT U (I find difficult to stan them because of the constantly changing members) 10. BoA (I started to like her a lot thanks to SuperStar SM, another queen from SM) 11. RIIZE (Good songs but not into them at all with alm the dram going , wish them the best tbh) 12. F(x) (They were ahead of their time, SM didn't deserve them) 13. SuperM (SuperOne album has to be one of the best albums released from SM Ent) 14. Shinhwa (They have bangers) 15. Red Velvet (Idk anything about them besides their tittle tracks but talented as hell) 16. AESPA (Its interesting their concept but i dont like their songs overall, not saying they are bad but they aret my taste) 17. NCT Wish (Don't hate them but i need to see more from them) 18. Got the beat (Honestly, not interested in them) 19. S..E.S (Not really interested in them) 20. H.O.T (idk anything besides of Candy and Full of happines) Edit: I forgot RIIZE
4:46 wow that surprised me because imo nct u has some GREAT bsides, a few recs that i like personally: - timeless (also go and boss from the same album, but i’m never sure what’s considered the title track with nct u albums) - misfit - volcano - light bulb - my everything - make a wish - deja vu - nectar - faded in my last song - from home - all about you - new axis - universe (let’s play ball) - know now - dreaming - round&round
@@viviylleia well, like i said, with nct u albums it’s pretty hard to say what the title track is. Because from what i gathered, the real title track is always the one with all the members on it, for nct 2018 it is black on black, for nct 2020 it’s resonance, for nct 2021 it’s beautiful and for nct 2023 it’s golden age. But they do promote songs like make a wish, go, universe and boss, so i’m not sure if they count as 100% b-sides…. but nonetheless, nct u has many good bsides :)
you gotta separate the art from the artist. suju has a pretty good discog and probably the best vocal line in all of kpop. pretty much any group from gen 2 and before has had problematic moments which were almost career ending but it feels like suju is the only one who ends up getting any hate for it. not defending their actions, but I just think that good music shouldn't be judged by things that the artist has done. other than that though this list is amazing
SM groups were my introduction to K-Pop back in 2010, so I have such nostalgia and love for every single one of these groups. I loved seeing your list! 😊
A Bside to enjoy from NCT-U? - From home - Faded in my last song - I.O.U - Raise the Roof - Light bulb - OK! - Round&Round - Sweet dream - PADO - The bat - Interlude: Oasis NCT has the best Bsides in kpop But regardless shinee #1!!
I will definetely listen to those!! but I actually know raise the roof and from home out of those and I love from home so much I'll give you my review! Also shawols rise
My top 4 would be: 1. SHINee 2. f(x) 3. EXO 4. Red Velvet They all have near to flawless discographies, though personally, SHINee is in a league of their own, not only in SM, but k-pop in general
My preferred SM artists only based on discography - Red Velvet EXO Boa Aespa SES Shinee TVXQ F(X) SNSD SuperM NCT (can't categorise) GOT the beat. The rest I don't know their discography properly.
Thanks for the video! These are my favorite songs from the groups you mentioned in the order you chose: 1. Shinee "Why so serious?" 2. Red Velvet "Red flavor" 3. Aespa "Yeppi yeppi" 4. f(x) "Toy" 5. BoA "Copy & paste" 6. EXO "Wolf" 7. Girls Generation "I got a boy" 8. WayV "Phantom" 9. NCT 127 "Fact Check" 10. TVXQ "Mirotic" 11. NCT Dream "Candy" 12. NCT U "Make a wish" 13. SES [I don't know any] 14. SuperM "Jopping" 15. Got the beat "Step back" 16. HOT "Candy" 17. Super Junior "Swing" 18. Shinhwa "Uh sha uh sha" 19. NCT Wish "We go" 🙏🧡🎼🕺🪩✨
@@doraszn @viviylleia. She’s freaking lieing she hates nct she a goddamn evil lier she has maggots in her mouth she’s playing u she’s love it but she is disgusting DONT PLAY GAMES @viviylleia stop lying we know who you are and we know who you are stop playing games she’s evil
I recently got into Super Junior, and nah, you were missing out a lot by believing all those rumours. They're massively talented and fun. Probably the most talented group I've stanned so far (I stan a lot of group like bts, w1, txt, enha, exo, etc) It just makes me sad how people easily believe anything on the internet and I don't understand why people act like other kpop group like shinee or red velvet are not as problematic as them when they did and said the same thing as suju?
My problem is mostly with Siwon and Shindong honestly, but I did listen to most of their songs, just rarely ever stream it, I said it myself that they are very talented and make great music
@@viviylleia okay you hate them bec shindong said one wrong thing in the past and siwon for not supporting lgbt but said nothing about shinhwa when almost half their members literally got in jail.
@@viviylleia might as well not mention anything about suju being problematic cuz you ain't saying that for group like shinee. I don't understand how people can like shinee but hate sj when they're literally the same and so close with each other? Like sj literally hold late jonghyun's coffin?
My rank -nct dream -nct 127 -wayv ( they have amazing songs I don't get why most nctzens ignore them) -Nct u -aespa -exo -riize -red velvet -shinee -nct wish
As an nearly 8 year Exo-l I can understand your feelings towards Shinee. Because no other group I staned after them gives me so much emotions and strength as Exo. I called it "my first love syndrome " ㅋㅋㅋ. And my rating would probably be: 1. Exo 2. Nct U 3. Nct dream/ Nct 127 4. Aespa 5. Red velvet 6. Riize 7. Girls generation 8. G.O.T 9. Nct wish 10. Shinee 11. SuperM 12. Super Junior 13. F(x) 14. Boa 15. H.O.T
Great video! SM artists have been special, for sure. As someone that entered K-pop in 2018, I have a different perspective. I don’t really know the older group’s discographies, except for their most popular songs. Out of those, I’d say SHINHWA is my favorite….even their recent releases sounded fun to me. Of the groups I’m more familiar with, I’d say: 1. NCT Dream - they have a few misses, but for the most part their songs are wonderful 2. EXO - the talent, personalities and songs are great 3. WayV- Xiajou, Hendery and Ten are ACES 4. NCT127 - wether you like their music or not, they are a special mix of talent 5. Aespa - loved them since debut Honorable mention: Riize: monster rookies (Memories, Get a Guitar and Impossible are excellent)🤩
I indeed forgot about Riize but wrote my opinion on the pinned comment, and I agree with your song choices for them!! I'm curious, what do you think of Smoothie by the dreamies?
I feel like BoA should be number 1 no matter what. Her impact on the industry I feel trumps literally everything else any group or soloist that has ever been in the kpop industry ever. Only rivaled by Psy but even then, I think she beats him impact wise. She literally saved the industry when it needed to be saved, no one has paved the industry like she did.
@@viviylleia that's fair, personally. I think BoA should be #1 because music be damned. She saved the industry allowing for every other (non-1st gen) group to exist. And to top it all off... her music and dance ability are iconic. (I know I said music be damned😂, but having good music definitely helps lol)
THANK YOU for ranking SHINee #1 and ranking them over EXO and NCT. A lot of younger fans just jump to 4th gen and maybe 3rd gen, but they don't bother to consider one of the best groups in the industry. Yes, SHINee is my ult, and for good reason. I'd say my top rankings would go: SHINee #1, WayV #2 (I like a lot of NCT songs but all the other subunits just kind of run together [except Dream]). I know all WayV members, and Mark and Taeyong, but there are just sooo many others I can't keep up. EXO #3 and Aespa #4. I love lots of songs from other groups but not enough of one particular group to rank them. You would have laughed if you had heard my internal dialog while watching. The more you counted down and hadn't mentioned SHINee, I got more and more excited. When you got to #2, I thought "if she forgets SHINee, I'm going to unleash some words" (don't worry, I'm not a mean shawol). Then...YAY!!! BTW, fun fact you probably already know: Jonghyun wrote Playboy. I love his sultry solo performance, but have you seen EXO's live? It's ... ahem ... :) Ok, done with my novel, lol.
That's why Play-boy is my favorite EXO song! SHINee are my ults and Jonghyun as well! I can never get enough of his solo discography Ive been a Shawol for more than 10 years so I feel you when it comes to younger fans overlooking them 😭 I need more shawols on my channel
Nct is like my gateaway to SM through Make a Wish. Then I got into Exo cuz of Tao. But why most people hate former members tho? Even the members themselves avoid mention them? Then I found this one particular group that doesn't give a fck. Super Junior literally never afraid to mention and even hangout with their ex members. They even don't care mentioning former members of other groups lol. That's why they're my ult. They're just different 😂
Our taste in kpop are so similari think the difference wouldve been id put TVXQ on #1 ofc kinda biased since they're my whole childhood and NCT 127 and exo above aespa, red velvet and SNSD and f(x), nothing to do with the fact they are girls group just my peak top is NCT EXO SHINEE TVXQ i vibe more to boy groups in general even though i love and listen a lot to aespa and red velvet and some SNSD and S.E.S just not as much.
Sm boy groups are something else, I'm not much of a bg stan but most of the boy groups I listen to regularly are SM groups so I see where you're coming from
RIIZE, Tayeon, Key, Minho, Kangta, Nævis (she’s on one song so it counts), U- know Yunho, Max Changmin, Hyo, Seulgi, Kai, and so many more just don’t exist anymore apparently
I do know them, I just said artists originating from groups will not be included. So Yunho and Max are from TVXQ, Hyo SNSD, Seulgi RV, Kai EXO and I could go on... I just included BoA because she always was a solo artist and joined got the beat only later on and it's not even her main activity
Great video, but you forgot about CSHJ The Grace. It was a female group that debuted in 2007, and they were supposed to be the female version of tvxq. Sadly, they weren't successful enough, and of course, SM threw them away. But, they were the best vocal group that SM will probably have.
I've heard their name but as I stated in the video, I didn't want to rank groups I am not familiar with, it would be unfair to put them last just because I don't know them / barely know them
0:43- this group is what happens when you try to cater to a lesbian and bi sexual audience but then just give up half way through and cater to straight men and think good enough, same audience right? 1:16- I forgot they were under SM entertainment but I gusss we all have humble beginnings in making boy groups that cater to the girlies 2:19 - the first of many sacrificial groups 3:02 - WHY DID THEY DISBAND 3:29- WHY HAVENT THEY DISBANDED, they can’t even comeback with the amount of incongruent military services 4:03- the first group made to cater to the girlies and gay men across the world 4:29- the most average NCT group? 90’s love was unfortunately in my Spotify wrap for 1 year 5:05- finally an NCT group that caters to The girlies and gays almost exclusively. 5:38 - the BTS before BTS, sadly no one under the age of 19 knows they exist 6:11 - does anyone actually like there music unironically 6:40- they had 1 good song and then they left 7:14- MOTHERS- ALL OF THEM 7:48- FATHERS ALL OF THEM 8:18- I know I said mothers earlier and I’ll say mother again but like THIS IS MOTHER 8:51- Mothers but in like that way we’re they only kept a strong choke hold on stoners and gay guys 9:25 - finally an SM girl group that also caters to the straight guys, it was rough for them 9:56- thank god I’m only giving my opinions on the group and not the ranking in this comment. Anyways I wonder if Red velvet ever thinks about how they were created to have an audience of the girls, gays, and life forms from other planets, like they are peek human excellence 10:29- well yes, SM’s first shot at creating boy group excellence
Superm should be able to comeback now unless am don't want them too. Only one that is enlisted is taeyong and I think everyone else is done or don't need to enlist
@@peachxtaehyung taemin left SM and they have to more military enlistments if we count some of the other SM idols that have replaced Taemin in performances when he was on military leave
10:46 Oh yes I would like 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Lucifer is close to be my favorite Kpop song, I listened to the whole album and I was not disappointed ! Could you please recommend me the next album I should listen to ? (Appart from your favorite, which I'm definitly going to check 🤭)
If you have a lot of time on your hands, definetely The Misconception of Us! If not, the Everybody album is a no skip except for maybe Queen of New York, but all of the other songs are at least a solid 9/10! Or I could make a playlist for you if you'd like!
@@viviylleia OYYY SHUT UP DONT BE SO CLEAN YOU HAVE PLANS TO RUINED NCT WISH INCLUDING MEMBER SAKUYA THEN ILL PROBALLY REPORT TO SM ON THIS ON ATTEMPT TO RUIN SAKUYA ILL FREAKING REPORT YOU
Hiii friend!! Heres my ranking! Just with the ones you included because Im lazy !! 19. f(x) (Never will get into them, I dont like much and Amber always ruined any chance they had-) 18. Got The Beat (Step Back ruined any chance they had for me lmao) 17. H.O.T (I really havent found much to enjoy from them but I also dont hate anything-) 16. S.E.S (They make a lot of cute songs!) 15. Red Velvet (I dont know if Ill ever get why people enjoy them but oh well lmaooo) 14. NCT Wish (Havent really gotten into them but they make decent stuff!) 13. TVXQ! (Really never got into them, like some of their music tho!) 12. BoA (Her music is good, from what I know, which isnt much lmaooo) 11. Super Junior (Used to stan, just dont like some of the members- Especially Shindong- But they make a lot of good music-) 10. Shinhwa (I will always be a stan 😌) 9. SNSD (Queens!!) 8. SuperM (Literally, I was such an SM stan when I first got into kpop XD SuperM was so high on my list- Their music is awesome anyway!) 7. aespa (Getting back into them after unstanning when Savage released- I enjoy their music a lot!) 6. EXO (I love them sm) 5. NCT U (All NCT units in 2021 wouldve been at the top XD Bside wise, I listen to NCT U the least (except Wish) but my favs are Volcano (one of my all time favorite nct songs!), New Axis, Sweet Dream, Raise The Roof, & Pado!) 4. SHINee (Miss when I was obsessed with them ngl... my SM phase went away, but I still love my boys
My heart broke when I saw f(x) last I would have never guessed your ranking to be like this but I'm not surprised about the boy group supremacy on your end!!
when I'll change it to candy crush then what (flower rhythm changed my life btw I needed that 2017 OEC sound soooo badly and I was obsessed with Kehwa)
I feel like the two SM supergroups are not it. How do you fumble when you literally have the best/top GG/BG members grouped together? The only reason outside of the mid songwriting/production is maybe members may have different styles and strengths/weaknesses. Not to mention they fumbled SM The Ballad too...
1:51 ijbol "most members are disgustingly problematic" as if every member is like siwon... like girlie just say you dont know a thing abt the group lmao☠️☠️
Ok for my thoughts on the rankings 0:41- fair 1:13 - well, yes 1:44- get them out of here, they shouldn’t be recongized 2:21- can’t complain 2:50- SHOULD BE HIGHER, truly internalized homophobia for this ranking 3:26 - only cause Taemin is here 3:58- should be higher 4:29- well yes 5:01- ok I’ll let this one pass 5:35- only cause of there legacy, yes 6:10- SHOULD BE LOWER 6:43- Should be lower 7:14- should be higher 7:49- should be higher 8:18 - should be higher 8:52- should be lower but not much lower 9:23- how the in the ever loving ass did they rank so high- lower them 9:54- should be number 1 10:25- should be number 2
@@JEFF.4LVES As I said, I'm not that familiar with NCT, I thought it was more like GOT the Beat, because I don't recognize a few members and only the few that I can remember from NCT, haha
Sorry but most of them arent problematic? "Only" shindong, kangin, yesung and siwon and i think thats it and the only one whos done anything recently is siwon. The others was more than a decade ago when everyone acted like that and said that stuff (not that that excuses it)
Tell me if I'm wrong but I believe the only okay ones are Kyuhyun and Donghae? Leeteuk seems alright too and he seems like he cares about his fans, but I can't get over how Siwon acts as a human being, same goes for Shindong and how he treated his ex and women in general
Yesung is not even problematic. I don't like Shindong honestly but he said ONE wrong thing more than a decade ago and has apologised but suddenly people has free pass to shame him?
‼ DISCLAIMER ‼
I did forget RIIZE in the ranking and I am SORRY about it. They'd be right over Super Junior, as I only enjoy Get a Guitar (#2) and Memories (#1) from them! But I love both songs so they deserve to be a bit higher than the groups below
UMG also forced me to cut a segment of SuperM for some reason, so I'm sorry if it looks awkward now!
++ CSJH The Grace too, don't forget
@@audina34Xd1 I said I wasn't ranking groups I was not familiar with, and they are one of them :)
Can you please put your reason for superm since it got cut 😬
@@aie44444 If my memory is correct, I said "The true supergroup, the lineup is almost entirely made out insanely talented individuals. Sadly, I mostly only loved their first Mini Album. I had the chance to see them live and I will forever be grateful for it, they truly know how to make a show!"
@@viviylleia thank you 🫶🏻
Sm does not have a bad group
THIS
REAL
FOR REAL
Agree every member is talented and no group is bad except the company itself
Shinee being on top 😍‼️
my ults for a reason
I remember my reaction when I heard Sherlock for the first time lol, absolutely served.
My ranking of SM groups would be:
1. EXO
2. Red Velvet & f(x)
3. Girls' Generation & Aespa
4. Super Junior & TVXQ & SHINee & BoA
5. NCT
f(x) will forever be my fav kpop group
Top 5 songs:
1. Ice Cream
2. Dracula
3. Deja Vu
4. Mr. Boogie
5. Pretty Girl
Effects of SM Water:
:Heavenly Vocals
:UNREAL Harmonizing
:No-skip discographies
Love how Wayv is your favorite NCT sub unit! I really love their albums and as I'm currently taking my second chinese course in college, it's so fun to study with their songs haha
I would loveeee to learn mandarin, it's such a beautiful language, same goes for cantonese but I can't quote every dialect out there but you get my point haha
i agree with your nct ranking??
My favorite SM artist is Red Velvet but I adore a lot of the music of the artists under it.
And yes, you should make this a series, I want to know your ranking of other companies' artists
JYP is the next one I will be doing!
I'll restrain a bit on hybe for now, so YG will most likely be next, and then I think I will make you guys vote!
@@viviylleia Ooh, great, can't wait to see your JYP ranking (and your opinion on Xdinary Heroes, if I'm being honest)
I understand holding off from HYBE for a time, considering the current shitshow they are in now
@@albarr953 Yeah, I don't want to 1) create more fanwars than there already are 2) have people thinking I'm releasing this because it's a trendy topic right now
Was holding my breath when I realized Red Velvet and Shinee would be the top 2. Then let it out when Shinee got #1!!!
Using a clip of Evil too omg ... you're so correct that's one of their best songs ever.
My top 3:
1-Shinee.
2-Girls Generation.
3-Red Velvet.
You're the og
Hugeee Respect!! The Misconceptions Of Me is a masterpiece. (Orgel is one of my favorite songs too)
Orgel enjoyers rise!!
nice, my favorites are TVXQ and EXO
YOU have taste
My top5:
5. SHINHWA
4. f(x)
3. SNSD / Girls' Generation
2. SHINee
1. TVXQ!
SHINee is a great choice. I love them (Onew, Minho, Key, Taemin and Jonghyun🕊️)
1. Aespa
2. Exo
3. NCT 127
4. SNSD
5. Red Velvet
6. Shinee
My favorite sm group is definitely f(x), one day i never heard of them and now their in my top 5 groups ever. Also jet changed lives (atleast it changed mine)!
They changed at least two lives then!!
YESS TELL ME WHAT TO DO APPRECIATION
I wanna do this:
1. EXO (Everything about them is perfect, i dont have anything else to say, SM wasted so much)
2. NCT Dream (Used to dislike their songs, now I love them, my fav sub unit of NCT)
3. Super Junior (Was my very first kpop group back then 10 years ago, they aren't anymore my fav group, neither a top 10 place but I grew up listening to their music and watching their shows, it was the first boyband I truly stanned, the "i just wanted to know their names" I found SHINee and TVXQ thanks to them so here we are a decade after)
4. SHINee (They were my second kpop group and the reason I wanted to look for more kpop groups, i might not stan as much as before but they have a special place)
5. TVXQ (Truly legends of kpop, i was so into them when i got into kpop)
6. NCT 127 (Their songs are either a hit or a miss for me so that makes me difficult to stan them)
7. SNSD (Not truly into ggs but they are the definition of iconic)
8. WayV (Awaken the world album >>>>>)
9. NCT U (I find difficult to stan them because of the constantly changing members)
10. BoA (I started to like her a lot thanks to SuperStar SM, another queen from SM)
11. RIIZE (Good songs but not into them at all with alm the dram going , wish them the best tbh)
12. F(x) (They were ahead of their time, SM didn't deserve them)
13. SuperM (SuperOne album has to be one of the best albums released from SM Ent)
14. Shinhwa (They have bangers)
15. Red Velvet (Idk anything about them besides their tittle tracks but talented as hell)
16. AESPA (Its interesting their concept but i dont like their songs overall, not saying they are bad but they aret my taste)
17. NCT Wish (Don't hate them but i need to see more from them)
18. Got the beat (Honestly, not interested in them)
19. S..E.S (Not really interested in them)
20. H.O.T (idk anything besides of Candy and Full of happines)
Edit: I forgot RIIZE
Immaculate opinions
Thank you!! 🥰
4:46 wow that surprised me because imo nct u has some GREAT bsides, a few recs that i like personally:
- timeless (also go and boss from the same album, but i’m never sure what’s considered the title track with nct u albums)
- misfit
- volcano
- light bulb
- my everything
- make a wish
- deja vu
- nectar
- faded in my last song
- from home
- all about you
- new axis
- universe (let’s play ball)
- know now
- dreaming
- round&round
misfit, make a wish, from home, new axis and universe are bsides?! then those slap hard
I'll listen to the other ones and give you my opinion asap!
@@viviylleia well, like i said, with nct u albums it’s pretty hard to say what the title track is. Because from what i gathered, the real title track is always the one with all the members on it, for nct 2018 it is black on black, for nct 2020 it’s resonance, for nct 2021 it’s beautiful and for nct 2023 it’s golden age. But they do promote songs like make a wish, go, universe and boss, so i’m not sure if they count as 100% b-sides…. but nonetheless, nct u has many good bsides :)
@@viviylleia new axis is definitely a bside tho! It’s a great song, i agree
happy to see red velvet at #2 ❤ tbh i'm not sure what it is but sm artists just hit different, they always have amazing discographies!
I agree so much, the music quality and their talent is beyond amazing
I love artists SM, they are the best, PERIODT⭐️
My faves are shinee, tvxq, shinhwa (though theyre in their own company now not sm), snsd, red velvet
I know that they are in their own company now but since they debuted there I thought I'd include them! also, taste!!
you gotta separate the art from the artist. suju has a pretty good discog and probably the best vocal line in all of kpop. pretty much any group from gen 2 and before has had problematic moments which were almost career ending but it feels like suju is the only one who ends up getting any hate for it. not defending their actions, but I just think that good music shouldn't be judged by things that the artist has done. other than that though this list is amazing
SM groups were my introduction to K-Pop back in 2010, so I have such nostalgia and love for every single one of these groups. I loved seeing your list! 😊
Yesss love venus and perfect man
Venus is my everything
SOMEBODY ELSE WHO KNOWS LOOK AT ME???!!! Thats my fav song from SNSD omg 😭
YOU GET ITTTT I LOVE THIS SONG
Amazing omg !!❤
My fav sme artist is ofc aespa and i agree with your ranking and editing !!
thank you so much!! aespa are sooo good, they're just damned to be in the same company as SHINee and Red Velvet hahaha
shinee first saur real
My pookies
I'd love to see this for jyp and hybe!
A Bside to enjoy from NCT-U?
- From home
- Faded in my last song
- I.O.U
- Raise the Roof
- Light bulb
- OK!
- Round&Round
- Sweet dream
- PADO
- The bat
- Interlude: Oasis
NCT has the best Bsides in kpop
But regardless shinee #1!!
I will definetely listen to those!! but I actually know raise the roof and from home out of those and I love from home so much
I'll give you my review!
Also shawols rise
I would like add Know now to the list
Red Velvet >>>
queens fr
Red Velvet my number 1 group forever ❤
Understandable honestly
My top 4 would be:
1. SHINee
2. f(x)
3. EXO
4. Red Velvet
They all have near to flawless discographies, though personally, SHINee is in a league of their own, not only in SM, but k-pop in general
My preferred SM artists only based on discography -
Red Velvet
EXO
Boa
Aespa
SES
Shinee
TVXQ
F(X)
SNSD
SuperM
NCT (can't categorise)
GOT the beat.
The rest I don't know their discography properly.
that's a solid list honestly
Thanks for the video! These are my favorite songs from the groups you mentioned in the order you chose:
1. Shinee "Why so serious?"
2. Red Velvet "Red flavor"
3. Aespa "Yeppi yeppi"
4. f(x) "Toy"
5. BoA "Copy & paste"
6. EXO "Wolf"
7. Girls Generation "I got a boy"
8. WayV "Phantom"
9. NCT 127 "Fact Check"
10. TVXQ "Mirotic"
11. NCT Dream "Candy"
12. NCT U "Make a wish"
13. SES [I don't know any]
14. SuperM "Jopping"
15. Got the beat "Step back"
16. HOT "Candy"
17. Super Junior "Swing"
18. Shinhwa "Uh sha uh sha"
19. NCT Wish "We go"
🙏🧡🎼🕺🪩✨
you have good taste when it comes to your favorites!! especially wolf and toy
@@viviylleia why, thank you!! 🥰🙏💕💫
@@viviylleia taste more like tasteless and being a mental psycho to drag down nct so stop lieng
the way you immediately gained my trust when u put hoot as snsd"s best song
I love hoot sm it's actually unhealthy
no idea what type of music you like but to recommend nct u bsides; pado, oasis, yestoday & round and round are some of my favourites :)
Yestoday is a bside?? I love that song!
@@viviylleia yes!! on the empathy album :))
@@doraszn @viviylleia. She’s freaking lieing she hates nct she a goddamn evil lier she has maggots in her mouth she’s playing u she’s love it but she is disgusting DONT PLAY GAMES @viviylleia stop lying we know who you are and we know who you are stop playing games she’s evil
I recently got into Super Junior, and nah, you were missing out a lot by believing all those rumours. They're massively talented and fun. Probably the most talented group I've stanned so far (I stan a lot of group like bts, w1, txt, enha, exo, etc)
It just makes me sad how people easily believe anything on the internet and I don't understand why people act like other kpop group like shinee or red velvet are not as problematic as them when they did and said the same thing as suju?
My problem is mostly with Siwon and Shindong honestly, but I did listen to most of their songs, just rarely ever stream it, I said it myself that they are very talented and make great music
@@viviylleia okay you hate them bec shindong said one wrong thing in the past and siwon for not supporting lgbt but said nothing about shinhwa when almost half their members literally got in jail.
@@Mulukan57 I can't know everything about every group, as I have no idea about what SHINHWA members did
And anyway they're lower than them lol
@@viviylleia might as well not mention anything about suju being problematic cuz you ain't saying that for group like shinee. I don't understand how people can like shinee but hate sj when they're literally the same and so close with each other?
Like sj literally hold late jonghyun's coffin?
@@Mulukan57 yeah because an argument about SHINee without mentioning jjong in that manner is impossible to make apparently
Love seeing that "Misconception of Me" is your fave SHINee album!! They have so many fantastic albums!
My rank
-nct dream
-nct 127
-wayv ( they have amazing songs I don't get why most nctzens ignore them)
-Nct u
-aespa
-exo
-riize
-red velvet
-shinee
-nct wish
someone is a nctzen
@@viviylleiaAND YOU BETTER REPLY TO THIS AND MY OTHER COMMENTS OR ELSE ILL REPORT YOU WITHOUT NOTICING
i’m so sad boa will be retiring ☹️ you’ll be missed queen of kpop! also STAN SHINEE
SHINee are my kings
If you love shinee that much you should give Riize a chance. But of course no one ever replace Prince of 2nd gen if KPop.
I did and I only like Memories and get a guitar:((
TRAX is so underrated 😭
I actually LOVE traxx! Just have never found someone who knows them 😭
No way do I agree EXO at 7 😮
Thank you for placing SHINee #1. I love other groups in SM but SHINee is special.❤❤❤❤❤
I'm a Shawol too!
My fav SM group is def between aespa and SNSD i love them both so much red velvet is a close 3rd tho
I recommend you to listen to I.O.U and Sweet Dream by NCT U. Yestoday is also pretty great
my rank:
Red Velvet/NCT
aespa
GOT the beat
RIIZE
EXO
Girls Generation
SHINee
I love it❤
I love your vids❤
Thank you so much for the support and for the kind comment
As an nearly 8 year Exo-l I can understand your feelings towards Shinee. Because no other group I staned after them gives me so much emotions and strength as Exo. I called it "my first love syndrome " ㅋㅋㅋ. And my rating would probably be:
1. Exo
2. Nct U
3. Nct dream/ Nct 127
4. Aespa
5. Red velvet
6. Riize
7. Girls generation
8. G.O.T
9. Nct wish
10. Shinee
11. SuperM
12. Super Junior
13. F(x)
14. Boa
15. H.O.T
Shinee are perfect
truly kings
My fav is EXO i think my fav album is DON'T MESS UP MY TEMPO
Ga nyangka SHINee no 1 tapi SHINee deserve jadi no 1 🥰
Great video! SM artists have been special, for sure. As someone that entered K-pop in 2018, I have a different perspective. I don’t really know the older group’s discographies, except for their most popular songs. Out of those, I’d say SHINHWA is my favorite….even their recent releases sounded fun to me.
Of the groups I’m more familiar with, I’d say:
1. NCT Dream - they have a few misses, but for the most part their songs are wonderful
2. EXO - the talent, personalities and songs are great
3. WayV- Xiajou, Hendery and Ten are ACES
4. NCT127 - wether you like their music or not, they are a special mix of talent
5. Aespa - loved them since debut
Honorable mention:
Riize: monster rookies (Memories, Get a Guitar and Impossible are excellent)🤩
I indeed forgot about Riize but wrote my opinion on the pinned comment, and I agree with your song choices for them!!
I'm curious, what do you think of Smoothie by the dreamies?
@@viviylleia I hated it😂…BOX is good though.
My fav SM group is also SHINee
Reason: talent,personality
My top 3 fav songs
1. Tell me what to do
2. Don't let me go
3. Countless
My fav album: 1of1
don't let me go is so beautiful
@@viviylleia i agree
Have to agree with the fav Wayv album. Awaken the world only have bangers
Thissss it's too slept on
I feel like BoA should be number 1 no matter what. Her impact on the industry I feel trumps literally everything else any group or soloist that has ever been in the kpop industry ever. Only rivaled by Psy but even then, I think she beats him impact wise. She literally saved the industry when it needed to be saved, no one has paved the industry like she did.
It is based on how much I like them personally! But overall, I do agree!
@@viviylleia that's fair, personally. I think BoA should be #1 because music be damned. She saved the industry allowing for every other (non-1st gen) group to exist. And to top it all off... her music and dance ability are iconic. (I know I said music be damned😂, but having good music definitely helps lol)
RAHHH RED VELVET MENTIONED 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️❤️❤️❤️❤️
OF COURSEE
9:00 1 song - butterfly
Before debut forever only 👑 EXO 👑
I’m waiting for an RV comeback 😢
THANK YOU for ranking SHINee #1 and ranking them over EXO and NCT. A lot of younger fans just jump to 4th gen and maybe 3rd gen, but they don't bother to consider one of the best groups in the industry. Yes, SHINee is my ult, and for good reason. I'd say my top rankings would go: SHINee #1, WayV #2 (I like a lot of NCT songs but all the other subunits just kind of run together [except Dream]). I know all WayV members, and Mark and Taeyong, but there are just sooo many others I can't keep up. EXO #3 and Aespa #4. I love lots of songs from other groups but not enough of one particular group to rank them.
You would have laughed if you had heard my internal dialog while watching. The more you counted down and hadn't mentioned SHINee, I got more and more excited. When you got to #2, I thought "if she forgets SHINee, I'm going to unleash some words" (don't worry, I'm not a mean shawol). Then...YAY!!! BTW, fun fact you probably already know: Jonghyun wrote Playboy. I love his sultry solo performance, but have you seen EXO's live? It's ... ahem ... :) Ok, done with my novel, lol.
That's why Play-boy is my favorite EXO song! SHINee are my ults and Jonghyun as well! I can never get enough of his solo discography
Ive been a Shawol for more than 10 years so I feel you when it comes to younger fans overlooking them 😭 I need more shawols on my channel
Also that click sound all over Playboy is so Jonghyun... he loves that one 😭
@@viviylleia THEN WHY DRAGGING NCT IN THE FIRST PLACE THEN NCTZENS SHOULD SUE YOU FOR BULLYING AND HARRASSMENT THATS WHY KARMA IS COMING
at first i was like oh no nct so low ranking... BUT PLAYBOY BY EXO IS SO GOOD OH MY GOD YOU HAVE PEAK TASTE ILY
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! NCT is low because SM is just THAT company, I really like them!
Sm is the best at vocals❤
Nct is like my gateaway to SM through Make a Wish. Then I got into Exo cuz of Tao. But why most people hate former members tho? Even the members themselves avoid mention them? Then I found this one particular group that doesn't give a fck. Super Junior literally never afraid to mention and even hangout with their ex members. They even don't care mentioning former members of other groups lol. That's why they're my ult. They're just different 😂
Our taste in kpop are so similari think the difference wouldve been id put TVXQ on #1 ofc kinda biased since they're my whole childhood and NCT 127 and exo above aespa, red velvet and SNSD and f(x), nothing to do with the fact they are girls group just my peak top is NCT EXO SHINEE TVXQ i vibe more to boy groups in general even though i love and listen a lot to aespa and red velvet and some SNSD and S.E.S just not as much.
Sm boy groups are something else, I'm not much of a bg stan but most of the boy groups I listen to regularly are SM groups so I see where you're coming from
I just got out of shower I am going to watch it now
hehe I'm curious on what you thought about it!!
@@viviylleia I loved it if you wouldn't mind could you do Jyp Entertainment next?
RIIZE, Tayeon, Key, Minho, Kangta, Nævis (she’s on one song so it counts), U- know Yunho, Max Changmin, Hyo, Seulgi, Kai, and so many more just don’t exist anymore apparently
😂🤣 she said the ones she don't know really and soloists originally in groups aren't included lol
@@peachxtaehyung I saw the part about artists she didn’t know not the soloists in group part
I do know them, I just said artists originating from groups will not be included. So Yunho and Max are from TVXQ, Hyo SNSD, Seulgi RV, Kai EXO and I could go on... I just included BoA because she always was a solo artist and joined got the beat only later on and it's not even her main activity
However I did forget Riize. They'd be over suju
FINALLY SOMEBODY LISTENS TO LUCID DREAM BY AESPA ITS THE MOST UNDERRATED B-SIDEEE😭😭😭😭
It's one of my favorite songs EVER like people don't get it
Great video, but you forgot about CSHJ The Grace. It was a female group that debuted in 2007, and they were supposed to be the female version of tvxq. Sadly, they weren't successful enough, and of course, SM threw them away. But, they were the best vocal group that SM will probably have.
I've heard their name but as I stated in the video, I didn't want to rank groups I am not familiar with, it would be unfair to put them last just because I don't know them / barely know them
@viviylleia lol, I didn't read that part
*2005
@@ventaliq you are right
0:43- this group is what happens when you try to cater to a lesbian and bi sexual audience but then just give up half way through and cater to straight men and think good enough, same audience right?
1:16- I forgot they were under SM entertainment but I gusss we all have humble beginnings in making boy groups that cater to the girlies
2:19 - the first of many sacrificial groups
3:02 - WHY DID THEY DISBAND
3:29- WHY HAVENT THEY DISBANDED, they can’t even comeback with the amount of incongruent military services
4:03- the first group made to cater to the girlies and gay men across the world
4:29- the most average NCT group? 90’s love was unfortunately in my Spotify wrap for 1 year
5:05- finally an NCT group that caters to The girlies and gays almost exclusively.
5:38 - the BTS before BTS, sadly no one under the age of 19 knows they exist
6:11 - does anyone actually like there music unironically
6:40- they had 1 good song and then they left
7:14- MOTHERS- ALL OF THEM
7:48- FATHERS ALL OF THEM
8:18- I know I said mothers earlier and I’ll say mother again but like THIS IS MOTHER
8:51- Mothers but in like that way we’re they only kept a strong choke hold on stoners and gay guys
9:25 - finally an SM girl group that also caters to the straight guys, it was rough for them
9:56- thank god I’m only giving my opinions on the group and not the ranking in this comment. Anyways I wonder if Red velvet ever thinks about how they were created to have an audience of the girls, gays, and life forms from other planets, like they are peek human excellence
10:29- well yes, SM’s first shot at creating boy group excellence
Superm should be able to comeback now unless am don't want them too. Only one that is enlisted is taeyong and I think everyone else is done or don't need to enlist
Yesss at one point tvxq had to the biggest fan base of the world. So deserving of that too. I love them
@@peachxtaehyung taemin left SM and they have to more military enlistments if we count some of the other SM idols that have replaced Taemin in performances when he was on military leave
Understood almost none of the original comment, and the time counts seem downright random. Sorry. Was it supposed to be funny?
@@lulashepard3253 sorry idk how you don't understand it lol
Need this with yg and jyp pls!!!!!
JYP is the next one!!
10:46 Oh yes I would like 🥺🥺🥺🥺 Lucifer is close to be my favorite Kpop song, I listened to the whole album and I was not disappointed !
Could you please recommend me the next album I should listen to ? (Appart from your favorite, which I'm definitly going to check 🤭)
If you have a lot of time on your hands, definetely The Misconception of Us! If not, the Everybody album is a no skip except for maybe Queen of New York, but all of the other songs are at least a solid 9/10!
Or I could make a playlist for you if you'd like!
Black hair in NCT Wish’s M/V is Sakuya!!
The comment I've been waiting for the most for the last two days THANK YOUUU YOU'RE A REAL ONE
@@viviylleia OYYY SHUT UP DONT BE SO CLEAN YOU HAVE PLANS TO RUINED NCT WISH INCLUDING MEMBER SAKUYA THEN ILL PROBALLY REPORT TO SM ON THIS ON ATTEMPT TO RUIN SAKUYA ILL FREAKING REPORT YOU
Hiii friend!!
Heres my ranking! Just with the ones you included because Im lazy !!
19. f(x) (Never will get into them, I dont like much and Amber always ruined any chance they had-)
18. Got The Beat (Step Back ruined any chance they had for me lmao)
17. H.O.T (I really havent found much to enjoy from them but I also dont hate anything-)
16. S.E.S (They make a lot of cute songs!)
15. Red Velvet (I dont know if Ill ever get why people enjoy them but oh well lmaooo)
14. NCT Wish (Havent really gotten into them but they make decent stuff!)
13. TVXQ! (Really never got into them, like some of their music tho!)
12. BoA (Her music is good, from what I know, which isnt much lmaooo)
11. Super Junior (Used to stan, just dont like some of the members- Especially Shindong- But they make a lot of good music-)
10. Shinhwa (I will always be a stan 😌)
9. SNSD (Queens!!)
8. SuperM (Literally, I was such an SM stan when I first got into kpop XD SuperM was so high on my list- Their music is awesome anyway!)
7. aespa (Getting back into them after unstanning when Savage released- I enjoy their music a lot!)
6. EXO (I love them sm)
5. NCT U (All NCT units in 2021 wouldve been at the top XD Bside wise, I listen to NCT U the least (except Wish) but my favs are Volcano (one of my all time favorite nct songs!), New Axis, Sweet Dream, Raise The Roof, & Pado!)
4. SHINee (Miss when I was obsessed with them ngl... my SM phase went away, but I still love my boys
My heart broke when I saw f(x) last
I would have never guessed your ranking to be like this but I'm not surprised about the boy group supremacy on your end!!
@@viviylleia So sorry >_< Ive never enjoyed anything from them but I totally respect how much you love them
Flower Rhythm as an intro = person with taste
when I'll change it to candy crush then what (flower rhythm changed my life btw I needed that 2017 OEC sound soooo badly and I was obsessed with Kehwa)
I feel like the two SM supergroups are not it. How do you fumble when you literally have the best/top GG/BG members grouped together? The only reason outside of the mid songwriting/production is maybe members may have different styles and strengths/weaknesses. Not to mention they fumbled SM The Ballad too...
1:51 ijbol "most members are disgustingly problematic" as if every member is like siwon... like girlie just say you dont know a thing abt the group lmao☠️☠️
Super junior should be at least top 10 or 15
Ok for my thoughts on the rankings
0:41- fair
1:13 - well, yes
1:44- get them out of here, they shouldn’t be recongized
2:21- can’t complain
2:50- SHOULD BE HIGHER, truly internalized homophobia for this ranking
3:26 - only cause Taemin is here
3:58- should be higher
4:29- well yes
5:01- ok I’ll let this one pass
5:35- only cause of there legacy, yes
6:10- SHOULD BE LOWER
6:43- Should be lower
7:14- should be higher
7:49- should be higher
8:18 - should be higher
8:52- should be lower but not much lower
9:23- how the in the ever loving ass did they rank so high- lower them
9:54- should be number 1
10:25- should be number 2
my ranking would be:
1. aespa
2. Girls’ Generation & Red Velvet
3. Super Junior
4. Exo
5. GOT the Beat
6. NCT's - I don't really know much about the differentiation here haha
7. SuperM
8. f(x)
9. Shinee & BoA
10. WayV & RIIZE
11. TVXQ
12. H.O.T
13. S.E.S.
wayV is NCT
@@JEFF.4LVES As I said, I'm not that familiar with NCT, I thought it was more like GOT the Beat, because I don't recognize a few members and only the few that I can remember from NCT, haha
@@YoungGames2712 aint no problem tho!
Where's Milk or Black Belt (I think it's Black Belt)
6:32 Mad Town and Simon Says in your favorite songs, you are a real one
those two slap so hard honestly
@@viviylleiaSHUT UP AND STOP PLAYING AND ACTING
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Sorry but most of them arent problematic? "Only" shindong, kangin, yesung and siwon and i think thats it and the only one whos done anything recently is siwon. The others was more than a decade ago when everyone acted like that and said that stuff (not that that excuses it)
Tell me if I'm wrong but I believe the only okay ones are Kyuhyun and Donghae? Leeteuk seems alright too and he seems like he cares about his fans, but I can't get over how Siwon acts as a human being, same goes for Shindong and how he treated his ex and women in general
Well we all have our own journeys in life, being a super junior defender isn’t on my journey or most people’s but glad it’s on yours
Yesung is not even problematic. I don't like Shindong honestly but he said ONE wrong thing more than a decade ago and has apologised but suddenly people has free pass to shame him?
got the beat and mid does not belong together. their whole discography is flawless
I'm really not a fan and I listened to all of it :(( (even though it's short)
@@viviylleiaWell that's that 😭 their mini is one of my fav albums from that year....
Riize ??
Check the pinned comment!
exo at 6 for real.
Where’s Riize?
My ranking
1.Red velvet
2.Aespa
3.Girls generation
4.S.e.s
5.BoA
6.F(x)
7.Got the beat
8. Men
exo is not first, dislike