if you read up on how the real Dean O'Banion died, this scene is actually very accurate. He died, in his flower shop, after a man offered him a handshake, flanked by two other armed assailants at his side.
"The O'Banion killing sparked a brutal five-year gang war between the North Side Gang and the Chicago Outfit that culminated in the killing of seven North Side gang members in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre in 1929." From wikipedia. God bless everyone.
I absolutely love when Van Alden lets out his true nature while held at gunpoint. You can really see how O'Banion is visibly shook by how serious and intimidating he is. Don't fuck with Nelson Van Alden...
Van Alden used reverse psychology on him and it worked. It was a long shot but it worked here and when Capone put a gun to his head. They were so shocked hearing him be completely honest it threw their whole game off.
A guy comes home with a bouquet of flowers. His wife says, "I guess I'll have to spread my legs again." The husband replies, "Why? Don't you have a vase?"
+Trey Thompson Some didn't. They'd believe they were invincible in their own territory, which is pretty evident in the Chicago "north side/south side" dispute.
Trey Thompson Plus, killing him was kind of a dumb move. Almost cost both Torrio and Al Capone their lives, when people who were loyal and loved Dean O'Bannion sought revenge.
"I'm looking for someone called Kal'El, if you heard of them I'm very interested in obtaining any useful information about them. It's important I find this individual quickly."
There’s finally been an historical depiction of O’Banion without an Irish accent. (He was born and raised in Illinois.) Also, in other scenes from this series, he’s correctly called “Dean,” (or “Deanie,” as a nickname), his middle name, which he apparently preferred to his first (Charles). He was not named “Dion” and no one but the newspapers called him that. There's very good historical research here.
Van Alden was always one of the most interesting characters on the show. The other criminals were mostly steered into their profession by birth and circumstances; Van Alden a clearly a guy who wanted to be morally righteous and upstanding but wound up with an entirely different life due to his volatile and unpredictable nature. Cops and criminals generally have a code; Van Alden was both, yet didn't have one despite he much he wanted to think he did. On the surface, he seemed to be disciplined, reserved, even a bit repressed; every once in awhile he'd blow an O-ring, and his true volatile nature would up into a mushroom cloud of violence. His unpredictability made for some of the best scenes in the series.
I don't know if I'd say it was because of his volatile/unpredictable nature; he just kept being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people. If he hadn't have gotten pushed around, he wouldn't have taken an iron to that guy's face.
@@lordmeric3180 depends on the flower. Some you can strip and clean neatly, others not so much. Also when arrangements are put together there is trimming done to fit the particular arrangement and it takes way longer to completely pivot or move to a can
I did photo and video for a florist company a while back - you could have all the trash cans you wanted, it didn't matter. There were _going_ to be trimmings to sweep up.
I love how all these guys do such a great job of portraying what I would imagine these historical figures were like. Yes, there's a lot of liberties taken probably, but it is a show after all. I just appreciate that even a side character like O'Banion was done in a way that feels accurate.
Biggest one (aside from Gyp Rosetti and others) was whole Jimmy Darmody-plot. He's very, very loose adaptation of one of Enoch Johnson's associates, James H. Boyd, who Johnson planned to succeed him. He never got quite there, because Johnson was arrested for tax evasion and his actual successor, Senator Frank S. Harley, took over atlantic city. Boyd moved as his enforcer and became his trusted man instead. Much like Jimmy Darmody, Boyd also served in the war(albeit in second world war, since boardwalk empire's timeline is different). Also while Arnold Rothstein is made as wily and clever he was in real life, his relationship with Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky is much more antagonistic mentorship. He makes a habit of having hand in their pocket which creates tensions, while in real-life they were much more amicable. Even decades after his death, both Luciano and Lansky had only good things to say about him. Luciano credited Rothstein for teaching him how to socialize and lead, while Lansky said Rothstein was undoutably greatest business man he ever knew.
I love this show but it had a lot of unsatisfying deaths for the main characters. But Van Alden's arc is really outstanding. He's a psychopathic murderer and zealot, totally beaten by life, and every time he intentionally fucks up something kinda lucky happens to get him out of it, but it draws him deeper and deeper into a life he hates. But he's unkillable, no matter how he tries. And then, finally, he just can't take it anymore. Him dying screaming in Capone's face is just amazing because you know he's finally happy.
i mean this is pretty close to how o' bannion died in real life. we obviously have no idea what was said but someone came up shook hands and held onto it so he could reach for his own gun and 2 others shot him one with a 45 and another with a 38
Wiki article: "On the morning of November 10, 1924, O'Banion was clipping chrysanthemums in Schofield's' back room. Yale entered the shop with Genna gunmen John Scalise and Albert Anselmi. When O'Banion and Yale shook hands, Yale grasped O'Banion's hand in a tight grip. At the same time, Scalise and Anselmi stepped aside and fired two bullets into O'Banion's chest and two into his throat. One of the killers fired a final shot into the back of his head as he lay face down on the floor."
"What do you got that says you're sorry and won't do it again?" Love Frankie Yale. Most underutilized gangster on the show. Sad we didn't get to see his conflict with Capone.
Rhoads Gilbertfan yeah, he loved his wife so much that they settled him up, calling his joint to tell she was felling pretty sick. He desperately went to her rescue, with his guard down, and they ambushed him.
reimuslocke Plus he was just 32!. He basically rosed up almost on his own. Loved and respected by a lot of people. Heck, even Al Capone, Lucky and Meyer needed mentors and top bosses to screw over in order to be at "the top". Dean was basically his own boss and had his own gang of 20-30 men. The flower shop was a great source of "legit income", so he had little problems with "income tax". And killing him almost cost the lives of Torrio and Al Capone and there was even 5 more years of "gang war" and a lot of it for the memory of Dean O'Bannion.
stuckonautomatic They murdered one of the most well respected and popular gang leader in Chicago. I highly doubt the people who respected Dean would just "forget about it".
Part of me thinks he had to have been in a spot or spots like that before. When you go dead in the moment but it hits you later. The way we are 2 different people in the same form and one terrifies the other.
True story they used REAL flowers for this scene even though the producers objected because they were already over budget. Sometimes the drama behind the scenes is even more exciting than what you see on screen
On screen - a character gets killed. Off screen - "What do you mean real flowers, we are over budget already! Look at this excel sheet - it's all red! It should be green, you understand that, right?!"
I think the only reason van Alden didn't kill O'Banion is because he needed him as a cover to avoid suspicion, especially with 3 fucking dead bodies in the back.
No, the reason Van Alden didn't kill him was because Van Alden is a fictional character, and it would have changed a pivotal American true crime event in ways even the producers wouldn't dare do.
Van Alden set up O'Banion here, that's why he went on that diatribe when O'Banion had a gun to his face. He was expecting his killers to arrive and needed to buy time before O'Banion killed him. At least, that's the way I remember it.
@@insertusername7141 VA didn't set up O'Banion, he just took credit for it to get in with Capone. and in turn Capone took credit for the hit as well. In the show's universe, I'm pretty sure Torrio was really behind it. Evidence being he gave Capone an unsure look afterwards when he said he took care of O'Banion and Frankie Yale's involvement (Torrio used Yale to kill Big Jim Colosimo in Season 1).
Breaking bad came out before this. I don't really like Narcisse because he's just a fatter version of Gus(BB). The way he talks, acts etc. is exactly the same.
7 years late, but Van Alden should've gotten more screentime. I always thought the showrunners was going to steer him being caught in the middle of the Outfit-North Side Chicago war, with things ending with the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
A bit like when Nucky asks Harrow how many men he has killed and quickly answers with the exact number of 63 and Nucky kind of realizes he is dealing with a force of nature best left alone that you hope will be on your side when needed.
Those dead bodies at the end... Finally somebody is realistic. A lot of shows show a body that's supposedly been there a couple days and not a fly or anything on it.. This show was well done and thought out
MIchael Shannon's performance is often overshadowed by other more prominent characters but he never failed to give it his all in BWE. He was amazing to watch.
Legend has it the gangster shaking hands with O'Banion wasn't part of the hit squad. He was a spiritual guide, holding his hand and keeping eye contact to ease his transition to the spirit world. That dropped chrysanthemum at the end was part of an arcane incantation, symbolic of the journey ahead.
this series was perfect in the way its all done so "simplistic"realistic way, not before they shoot them whole speeches, and one liners, just a job, boom! boom! dead!..
This isn't what happened. My grandparents lived two blocks away from the flower shop at the time in a tenement with my grandfather's brothers who had married my grandmother's sisters (it's an Irish thing) and my dad, who was a baby. The site is in North Chicago, now one of the swankiest parts of town, but it those days it was known as Kileen. This was one of the roughest, if not the roughest, slums in America and makes anything around today look like a kindergarten. Deanie was a very tough boy and a stickup man by inclination. He was not only robbing the liquor shipments of other guys, usually the Italians because it was too dangerous even for him to fuck with the local Irish, but he had screwed Capone and others on a business deal. They bought a brewery fron him on good faith at a fair price, but Deanie knew thw Federal Prohibition agents (Eliot Ness and his type) were ready to raid it in a couple of days and neglected to inform the buyers. They lost most of their investment and the secret soon came out, probably through boasting by Deanie or his guys. The men who came in were gangsters that Deanie knew and they were there to arrange wreaths for the funeral of one of the "terrible" Genna brothers. Deanie did all the gangster funerals despite any personal differences with the deceased. Deanie was right handed. At least one of the gunmen, there were probably two, was a lefty so when they shook hands as they greeted each other at the shop entrance they both shot him. Deanie's giys were in the rear of the large shop. The hitmen almost certainly had been sent by Capone and his associates. A week or two later my grandpa was coming home drunk from a local saloon and stumbled. He fell through the plate glass window of thexflower shop. Needless to say, the boys were on edge so when grandpa came to his senses there were a lot of guns pointed at him. Then somebody said something to the effect of "Oh shit! It's only Mac coming home drunk!". It was an Irish neighborhood and everybody knew everybody and were suspicious of outsiders. When grandpa got home grandma had already heard all about from the neighbors. For the first and only time in their marriage she beat the shit out of him and told him they were moving back to Los Angeles, where my dad had been born. My father's side of the family has been in LA ever since, so you can imagine O'Banion's death is of some interest to us. I never saw my grandfather drunk. In fact, for an Irish family, there was remarkably little of it around. The flower shop survived until the 1960's. It did most Chicago gangster funerals long after Deanies's demise and also got a lot of funeral and wedding business from the Catholic cathederal across the street. It was much bigger than the set in the series. The site is now the parking lot for the cathederal, which was there at the time of O'Banion's death. It's on tours of historic Chicago and you can do Wikipedia and Google searches about it using Dean O'Banion's name. About 20 years ago I worked with a fellow engineer who was Al Capone's grandneice through one of his honest brothers (while his brother Ralph was a vile pimp, another brother became a lawman out west and was famous for his bravery and honesty in his day, though he dropped the Capone name, while other brothers led normal honest lives). I told her this story and she got a kick out of it. In return she told me some funny family stories about Al Capone, who had his virtues as well as his vices.
@@8523wsxcYour opinion is absurd and ridiculous and by far the most annoying thing I’ve seen about The Boardwalk Empire. Michael Shannon owned the hell out of his role.
A fairly accurate portrayal with the handshake. However, the assassins used the funeral of another mobster as cover due to the fact that gangland funerals were expensive and flashy affairs where thousands would be spent on flower bouquets. The killers used it as a pretense. They said they were there to order an expensive bouquet. I believe the handshake became known as the glad hand killing. Now Little Deanie as he was known was definitely a psychopath and loved to prank people ranging from exlax to packing a double barrel shotgun with hard pack clay, loading it for his mark,then betting him $100 bucks that he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. The mark would lose an arm or half of his face when the shotgun inevitably blew up. Deanie would still be laughing his butt off about it days later. Just a little backstory on him.
In reality, the closest L tracks at the time were 5 blocks to the West of O'Banion's shop. Over Franklin Street. The subway was later built beneath & parallel to where the shop once was at State & Superior.
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if you read up on how the real Dean O'Banion died, this scene is actually very accurate. He died, in his flower shop, after a man offered him a handshake, flanked by two other armed assailants at his side.
Yes. True
"The O'Banion killing sparked a brutal five-year gang war between the North Side Gang and the Chicago Outfit that culminated in the killing of seven North Side gang members in the St. Valentine's Day Massacre in 1929." From wikipedia.
God bless everyone.
Almost all the hits are accurate af, johnny torrio, frank capone, joe the boss, maranzano all of them. Great fucking show I discovered it real late
How do people know? lol
The handshake was to hold him still so the other 2 could shoot him without him trying to flee or pull his own weapon.
The way he terrified O’Banion out of killing him. He was so intimidating.
I think O'Banion honestly didn't believe him, but was more surprised by how aggressive Van Alden was getting.
@@WildBillHickumsthis, he was tired of his “awww shucks” behavior and wanted a reliable killer.
@@mikeg2491 Very good take, I didn't even think of that.
That’s the logical answer 👍
He even stood up against al capone and ralph too. “Hit me one more time and youll regret it..” this man was pushed to the edge all 5 seasons
I absolutely love when Van Alden lets out his true nature while held at gunpoint. You can really see how O'Banion is visibly shook by how serious and intimidating he is. Don't fuck with Nelson Van Alden...
Who is Van Alden and why is he in this scene? This is fiction.
Fuck man I thought this was a documentary, you got a good eye you know that.
@@scottishninya But it's a true story that's better than this crap.
@@whiskeyroast8302 lol really calling boardwalk empire crap? It's a dramatize world dude chill out. How's your blood pressure?
@@scottishninya 🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely love Michael Shannon. He was perfect for this role. Whoever did the casting in this show deserved an award
Chicago guy
Critically underrated actor. He was beyond phenomenal in The Ice Man
Michael Shannon was one of the producers.
Who is Michael Shannon? O'Banion or Van Halen?
@@user-qr3hq5lx7j van alden
"What's that Mr. O'Banion? I can have the rest of the night off and a bonus. Thank you, Mr O'Banion, thank you very much!"
And all the secrets I just told, could you keep those to yourself?
And a golden handshake as severance pay...
Should of left 20%, like Frank Lucas.
Talk about a guy that had it coming...........
Notice how O'Banion puts his gun down when Van Alden starts spilling his guts. Definitely a "holy shit" moment for him.
Bet he was thinking "What kind of nut job S.O.B. did i hire."
And then they do nothing with that side of him.
That confrontation did not go the way he originally envisioned it would.
Van Alden used reverse psychology on him and it worked. It was a long shot but it worked here and when Capone put a gun to his head. They were so shocked hearing him be completely honest it threw their whole game off.
Rich Weigel what if he didn’t actually commit those crimes but said he did anyways. They’d still believe him if he’d sound real enough no?
A guy comes home with a bouquet of flowers. His wife says, "I guess I'll have to spread my legs again." The husband replies, "Why? Don't you have a vase?"
Super non-PC but who cares? Funny AF!
Lol Uncle Junior over here
😂 I thought I was back in the 70s there
That's hilarious.
I'm going to have to tell that one to my wife!
@@ezekielbrockmann114 do so at your own peril
Love how the corpses of the three iron salesmen are still out in the back. Maybe O'Banion was planning to use them as fertilizer...
What u mean.. love? xD
It’s hilarious that they’re just still laying there undisturbed, Van Alden just doesn’t give a fuck
@@stentor9640 you think O'Banion would've been like "why are there 3 dead bodies out here?"
@tapset he literally looks at them when he walks in 😂😂
I never understood why a mob boss like o banion didn't have guards in his shop
Trey Thompson Arrogance, at least as far as the show's concerned. Just look at how he treated Van Alden.
+Trey Thompson Some didn't. They'd believe they were invincible in their own territory, which is pretty evident in the Chicago "north side/south side" dispute.
Was probably too cocky, when he screwed over Torrio it's like he didn't expect any kind of revenge or something which seems pretty stupid.
I think he was trying to be incognito but I could be wrong.
Trey Thompson Plus, killing him was kind of a dumb move. Almost cost both Torrio and Al Capone their lives, when people who were loyal and loved Dean O'Bannion sought revenge.
Van Alden gains 100 speech when his life is threatened.
"I used to believe in god, but now I don't believe in anything at all. Oh, also, I come from a planet called Krypton"
He woulda been shot right there.
I was wunderrin where I seen him B4!!!
@@UnCreativeDeconstructionism It wouldnt of hurt him.
"I'm looking for someone called Kal'El, if you heard of them I'm very interested in obtaining any useful information about them. It's important I find this individual quickly."
@@PuppetierMaster fuck is you talking about
There’s finally been an historical depiction of O’Banion without an Irish accent. (He was born and raised in Illinois.) Also, in other scenes from this series, he’s correctly called “Dean,” (or “Deanie,” as a nickname), his middle name, which he apparently preferred to his first (Charles). He was not named “Dion” and no one but the newspapers called him that. There's very good historical research here.
I like how his death was accurate to life that's how he died he was shaking Frankie Yale's hand then Al's men killed him
I thought O'Banion went as 'Charles' and the newspapers called him by his middle name Dean?
What other movies/shiws has he been in?
Historical accounts claim he sang with an Irish accent.
@@Michael-cs3li If that is true, it was probably an affectation.
Van Alden was always one of the most interesting characters on the show. The other criminals were mostly steered into their profession by birth and circumstances; Van Alden a clearly a guy who wanted to be morally righteous and upstanding but wound up with an entirely different life due to his volatile and unpredictable nature. Cops and criminals generally have a code; Van Alden was both, yet didn't have one despite he much he wanted to think he did.
On the surface, he seemed to be disciplined, reserved, even a bit repressed; every once in awhile he'd blow an O-ring, and his true volatile nature would up into a mushroom cloud of violence. His unpredictability made for some of the best scenes in the series.
Great statement.
Im guessing you are great at writing, good job
Yep - reminds me of Seth Bullock alot, only if Seth Bullock had decided to go all in on criminality
He was in the right for drowning shlomo for fucking up his investigation too tbh.
I don't know if I'd say it was because of his volatile/unpredictable nature; he just kept being in the wrong place at the wrong time with the wrong people. If he hadn't have gotten pushed around, he wouldn't have taken an iron to that guy's face.
I love how his wife transformed from innocent to complicit and then to the bane of his existence.
The police are going to have a hell of a time investigating this. Dead iron salesmen and a dead mobster, what the hell was going on here?
Just another day in 1920s Chicago
Also three dead mooks in the back alley, it's all a fucking mess
All 4 of them were gonna straighten Van Alden out, but fate put a pretty big crease in their plans.
Cue csi opening music.
The smell must've been very horrendous 🤮
As if the CPD gave a shit back then.
As someone who worked in a flower shop in college, sweeping the trimmings is a pain in the ass
I mean you could trim them on top of a bucket or trashbag. Whose out their double work like that.
why dont you just hover them ?
@@lordmeric3180 depends on the flower. Some you can strip and clean neatly, others not so much. Also when arrangements are put together there is trimming done to fit the particular arrangement and it takes way longer to completely pivot or move to a can
I did photo and video for a florist company a while back - you could have all the trash cans you wanted, it didn't matter. There were _going_ to be trimmings to sweep up.
every time I'm trimming I think of this scene, and in my mind I can hear "sweep up the trimminz!"
"What do you have that says 'I'm sorry and won't ever do it again?'- Roses are for my girlfriend. What do you got for my wife?" RIM SHOT
I love how all these guys do such a great job of portraying what I would imagine these historical figures were like. Yes, there's a lot of liberties taken probably, but it is a show after all. I just appreciate that even a side character like O'Banion was done in a way that feels accurate.
Biggest one (aside from Gyp Rosetti and others) was whole Jimmy Darmody-plot. He's very, very loose adaptation of one of Enoch Johnson's associates, James H. Boyd, who Johnson planned to succeed him. He never got quite there, because Johnson was arrested for tax evasion and his actual successor, Senator Frank S. Harley, took over atlantic city. Boyd moved as his enforcer and became his trusted man instead. Much like Jimmy Darmody, Boyd also served in the war(albeit in second world war, since boardwalk empire's timeline is different).
Also while Arnold Rothstein is made as wily and clever he was in real life, his relationship with Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky is much more antagonistic mentorship. He makes a habit of having hand in their pocket which creates tensions, while in real-life they were much more amicable. Even decades after his death, both Luciano and Lansky had only good things to say about him. Luciano credited Rothstein for teaching him how to socialize and lead, while Lansky said Rothstein was undoutably greatest business man he ever knew.
I love this show but it had a lot of unsatisfying deaths for the main characters. But Van Alden's arc is really outstanding. He's a psychopathic murderer and zealot, totally beaten by life, and every time he intentionally fucks up something kinda lucky happens to get him out of it, but it draws him deeper and deeper into a life he hates. But he's unkillable, no matter how he tries. And then, finally, he just can't take it anymore. Him dying screaming in Capone's face is just amazing because you know he's finally happy.
i mean this is pretty close to how o' bannion died in real life. we obviously have no idea what was said but someone came up shook hands and held onto it so he could reach for his own gun and 2 others shot him one with a 45 and another with a 38
He's not psychopathic.
Wiki article: "On the morning of November 10, 1924, O'Banion was clipping chrysanthemums in Schofield's' back room. Yale entered the shop with Genna gunmen John Scalise and Albert Anselmi. When O'Banion and Yale shook hands, Yale grasped O'Banion's hand in a tight grip. At the same time, Scalise and Anselmi stepped aside and fired two bullets into O'Banion's chest and two into his throat. One of the killers fired a final shot into the back of his head as he lay face down on the floor."
Yale's two buddies got baseball - batted by Al later
@@daniellinehan63 see now that i wanted to see thatt!
Just like sopranos said....notice how all these gangster Italians have names that start in a vowel.
@@bretthart1352I just watched that scene yesterday lmao
"What do you got that says you're sorry and won't do it again?"
Love Frankie Yale. Most underutilized gangster on the show. Sad we didn't get to see his conflict with Capone.
Facts! He took out Big Jim Collsimo too, straight monster.
Every one of those killers eventually bought it. Pleasure of reprisal
How hard would it have been for HBO to just give this season 4 more episodes to cover that, like every other season got?!
Soon as Frankie Yale walk in, you know O'Banion is a dead man
Which is why it's so surprising Frankie got whacked so early on in real life. Dead at 25
35 not 25
All three of O'Bannion's assassins ended up dead.
Rhoads Gilbertfan yeah, he loved his wife so much that they settled him up, calling his joint to tell she was felling pretty sick. He desperately went to her rescue, with his guard down, and they ambushed him.
@@lucasdamotta2931 Whoa! I mean, how petty can one be to do set up someone in that manner? It doesn't get worse than that.
O'Banion had a gun to his head, and STILL Shannon gave him the shivers. Great actor.
So went the "Sicilian handshake."
1958Shemp Technically it’s the Calabrese handshake lol
“And while you’re shaking my right hand, I’ll stab ya with the left.”- Ol Dirty Bastard
he made an offer he couldn't refuse
dean o banion was a great character, great actor who played him too.
reimuslocke Plus he was just 32!. He basically rosed up almost on his own. Loved and respected by a lot of people. Heck, even Al Capone, Lucky and Meyer needed mentors and top bosses to screw over in order to be at "the top".
Dean was basically his own boss and had his own gang of 20-30 men. The flower shop was a great source of "legit income", so he had little problems with "income tax".
And killing him almost cost the lives of Torrio and Al Capone and there was even 5 more years of "gang war" and a lot of it for the memory of Dean O'Bannion.
Interestingly, all three guys involved in the hit were themselves murdered within the next 5 years.
It's a dirty business.
stuckonautomatic They murdered one of the most well respected and popular gang leader in Chicago. I highly doubt the people who respected Dean would just "forget about it".
live by the sword, die by the sword.
@@nodinitiative they were murdered not by Irish gang but orders from Al Capone himself.
@@johnvaliegal6786 well...Al Capone himself was also targeted but then again, Al Fatso had an army of bodyguards to protect him.
Michael Shannon is a criminally underrated actor.
Part of me thinks he had to have been in a spot or spots like that before.
When you go dead in the moment but it hits you later. The way we are 2 different people in the same form and one terrifies the other.
I never see anything but praise for him
@@yommish touché
True story they used REAL flowers for this scene even though the producers objected because they were already over budget. Sometimes the drama behind the scenes is even more exciting than what you see on screen
On screen - a character gets killed.
Off screen - "What do you mean real flowers, we are over budget already! Look at this excel sheet - it's all red! It should be green, you understand that, right?!"
that place is a parking lot now, across the street from that cathedral, walked by it many times in Chicago
Hehehe sooooo many old mob places are parking lots now. I’ve always wondered why. Maybe easiest thing to build moneywise while still hiding the bodies
Part of that super- tall apt.tower
Wasn’t the real person Dion O’Bannion?
@@Grandtrunk Nah. It was actually Dean, which was his middle name. I believe it was the newspapers that referred to him as Dion for some reason.
love real history.
I love how he robbed his ass at the end
I think the only reason van Alden didn't kill O'Banion is because he needed him as a cover to avoid suspicion, especially with 3 fucking dead bodies in the back.
Those fucks deserved tho lol
No, the reason Van Alden didn't kill him was because Van Alden is a fictional character, and it would have changed a pivotal American true crime event in ways even the producers wouldn't dare do.
Van Alden set up O'Banion here, that's why he went on that diatribe when O'Banion had a gun to his face. He was expecting his killers to arrive and needed to buy time before O'Banion killed him. At least, that's the way I remember it.
@@insertusername7141
VA didn't set up O'Banion, he just took credit for it to get in with Capone. and in turn Capone took credit for the hit as well. In the show's universe, I'm pretty sure Torrio was really behind it. Evidence being he gave Capone an unsure look afterwards when he said he took care of O'Banion and Frankie Yale's involvement (Torrio used Yale to kill Big Jim Colosimo in Season 1).
Van Alden is the original Walter White.
Breaking bad came out before this. I don't really like Narcisse because he's just a fatter version of Gus(BB). The way he talks, acts etc. is exactly the same.
BushcraftBritannia Hate to tell you but the calm, collected, educated and polite villain archetype came way before Breaking Bad
Alan Parker You don't say?
Jake Miller I do in fact say, but what do you say about what I have to say?
Alan Parker Go fuck yourself
This was a Al Capone hit for Dean deaf comment about Al's deaf son
Harrison Jackson yessir
About taking over the Northside
Love Van Alden’s transformation throughout the series….he just grabbed the money and bounced, what a Gangster 💰💰
Van Alden had more lives than a cat 😂
Their relationship starts in a flower shop and ends in a flower shop. How cute 🌸 🌺 🌹
"Whaddya got that says you're sorry and wont ever do it again"
love that lol, referring to the setup of Johnny Torrio.
The good old days before everything was on security camera
Van Alden's story arc was the mast fascinating of the entire series. Amazing performance from Michael Shannon
Wow you're such a writer.
Absolutely love this show...the story the casting the props lighting Art Deco...it's all there...wish it was longer
Bro the way he changes his whole personality like a switch is amazing I love this character and how he struggles through the whole series 👍
Michael Shannon seriously needs one of the leading roles next season.
he just died so sorry :)
7 years late, but Van Alden should've gotten more screentime. I always thought the showrunners was going to steer him being caught in the middle of the Outfit-North Side Chicago war, with things ending with the St. Valentine's Day Massacre.
He’s dead
So is this comment
you can tell he was questioning his whole life after van alden started to expose himself
A bit like when Nucky asks Harrow how many men he has killed and quickly answers with the exact number of 63 and Nucky kind of realizes he is dealing with a force of nature best left alone that you hope will be on your side when needed.
Those dead bodies at the end... Finally somebody is realistic. A lot of shows show a body that's supposedly been there a couple days and not a fly or anything on it.. This show was well done and thought out
Anyone at all: **threatens Van Alden's life**
Van Alden: **BEAST MODE: ENGAGED!** 🤬
In reality, all these guys that killed obanion got killed with in a year, Murphy was no joke, he came and avenged his cousin
Just watched three clips from Boardwalk Empire and I’m reminded what a great series it is.
1:20 a little General Zod came out there lol, “Everything I did, I did for my people”
(O'Banion gets killed)
Dude: Here, you need a chrysanthemum more than I do
Gotta love how one hitman was tryna give ol’ Dean an open casket while the other guy wanted to get the job done.
I know you from somewhere have we met before oneyplays fan
MIchael Shannon's performance is often overshadowed by other more prominent characters but he never failed to give it his all in BWE. He was amazing to watch.
This is basically how it went down irl. Frankly Yale ordered a bouquet, and when he arrived, he and two other dudes air holed O'Bannon
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flower_bouquet
I gotta say one of the highlights of this season for me has been Val Alden. Fucking brilliant. Love it.
I’m pissed that they removed Boardwalk and the Sopranos from Prime 😩
bastards.
HBOMax, foo'.
Hotstar
@@Raphie009 that's where I'm watching it right now
Id really like to see a series based solely on the Chicago war. Characters would literally write themselves
Yep
Literally? They gonna jump off the page and start writing?
@@tapset The stupid kids constantly say that now. Literally this and that.
Van Alden got a raise, pay day, and got to leave work early all on the same day! What luck
Legend has it the gangster shaking hands with O'Banion wasn't part of the hit squad. He was a spiritual guide, holding his hand and keeping eye contact to ease his transition to the spirit world. That dropped chrysanthemum at the end was part of an arcane incantation, symbolic of the journey ahead.
Nice.
Sounds like black magic, some sick shit !
It's an old mafia tactic for doing hits. You shake their hand and it keeps them from pulling a gun while the shooter kills him.
@@dm7131 Old west tactic initially
The sacred and the propane.
"I used to believe in God... but now I don't believe in anything at all"
I find something inimitably terrifying about that statement.
Kind of ironic, considering his last words: "I swear to you by Jesus our Lord that justice will RAIN DOWN ON YOU, if it is my last-"
@@ericsampson372 people change.
@@tylerphillips6523More like revert
How that man didn’t win a major award for his performance as that character is stunning.
Yeah
Michael Shannon always gives his all in some kind of amazing but overlooked role. His whole career is filled with them!
Always thought his name was Albanian. Hence always thought he was from Albania haha
this series was perfect in the way its all done so "simplistic"realistic way,
not before they shoot them whole speeches, and one liners, just a job, boom! boom! dead!..
Gonna miss the little scenes with O'Banion!
Loved this show!! I’ve rewatched it 3 times 😳
0:50 the way he holds a gun changes between the takes. First he holds it to the side of the other guys head than in front of his face.
people like you ruin shows and movies
"I used to believe in god, then I saw some of the DCU movies, now I don't believe in anything".
This isn't what happened. My grandparents lived two blocks away from the flower shop at the time in a tenement with my grandfather's brothers who had married my grandmother's sisters (it's an Irish thing) and my dad, who was a baby. The site is in North Chicago, now one of the swankiest parts of town, but it those days it was known as Kileen. This was one of the roughest, if not the roughest, slums in America and makes anything around today look like a kindergarten. Deanie was a very tough boy and a stickup man by inclination. He was not only robbing the liquor shipments of other guys, usually the Italians because it was too dangerous even for him to fuck with the local Irish, but he had screwed Capone and others on a business deal. They bought a brewery fron him on good faith at a fair price, but Deanie knew thw Federal Prohibition agents (Eliot Ness and his type) were ready to raid it in a couple of days and neglected to inform the buyers. They lost most of their investment and the secret soon came out, probably through boasting by Deanie or his guys. The men who came in were gangsters that Deanie knew and they were there to arrange wreaths for the funeral of one of the "terrible" Genna brothers. Deanie did all the gangster funerals despite any personal differences with the deceased. Deanie was right handed. At least one of the gunmen, there were probably two, was a lefty so when they shook hands as they greeted each other at the shop entrance they both shot him. Deanie's giys were in the rear of the large shop. The hitmen almost certainly had been sent by Capone and his associates. A week or two later my grandpa was coming home drunk from a local saloon and stumbled. He fell through the plate glass window of thexflower shop. Needless to say, the boys were on edge so when grandpa came to his senses there were a lot of guns pointed at him. Then somebody said something to the effect of "Oh shit! It's only Mac coming home drunk!". It was an Irish neighborhood and everybody knew everybody and were suspicious of outsiders. When grandpa got home grandma had already heard all about from the neighbors. For the first and only time in their marriage she beat the shit out of him and told him they were moving back to Los Angeles, where my dad had been born. My father's side of the family has been in LA ever since, so you can imagine O'Banion's death is of some interest to us. I never saw my grandfather drunk. In fact, for an Irish family, there was remarkably little of it around.
The flower shop survived until the 1960's. It did most Chicago gangster funerals long after Deanies's demise and also got a lot of funeral and wedding business from the Catholic cathederal across the street. It was much bigger than the set in the series. The site is now the parking lot for the cathederal, which was there at the time of O'Banion's death. It's on tours of historic Chicago and you can do Wikipedia and Google searches about it using Dean O'Banion's name.
About 20 years ago I worked with a fellow engineer who was Al Capone's grandneice through one of his honest brothers (while his brother Ralph was a vile pimp, another brother became a lawman out west and was famous for his bravery and honesty in his day, though he dropped the Capone name, while other brothers led normal honest lives). I told her this story and she got a kick out of it. In return she told me some funny family stories about Al Capone, who had his virtues as well as his vices.
That story had me mesmerized. Tell more.
Personal stories like this are what make social media sites valuable. We need more stuff like this instead of Tik-Tok s***
If OP is not bullshitting on this one, then we've found a true diamond lads!
I read it all, and is fascinating, all those details was really interesting
What a great comment.
Hes got like a special power where if you put him on the brink of death he becomes death itself
Michael Shannon's talents are certainly not wasted in this series...a great character actor.
Still can't believe he played zod
His character is absurd and ridiculous and his performance is annoying and banal. He's the worst part of Boardwalk Empire by far.
@@8523wsxc wrong. Idiot.
@@flightofthebumblebee9529 This is exactly the level of intelligence i would expect of someone who doesn't realize that fact.
@@8523wsxcYour opinion is absurd and ridiculous and by far the most annoying thing I’ve seen about The Boardwalk Empire. Michael Shannon owned the hell out of his role.
That flower really tied the room together
A fairly accurate portrayal with the handshake. However, the assassins used the funeral of another mobster as cover due to the fact that gangland funerals were expensive and flashy affairs where thousands would be spent on flower bouquets. The killers used it as a pretense. They said they were there to order an expensive bouquet. I believe the handshake became known as the glad hand killing. Now Little Deanie as he was known was definitely a psychopath and loved to prank people ranging from exlax to packing a double barrel shotgun with hard pack clay, loading it for his mark,then betting him $100 bucks that he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. The mark would lose an arm or half of his face when the shotgun inevitably blew up. Deanie would still be laughing his butt off about it days later. Just a little backstory on him.
uh huh
Yeah, that's in the show too.
One of my more favoured hits from the show.. simple, yet brutal.
GENERAL ZOD KNEELS BEFORE NO ONE...well, OK, just this guy.
In a way, I kind of liked O'Banion.
Hated to see him go like that.
Looked like he and Van Alden had come to an understanding.
I'm just glad they kept it accurate to what happened. I honestly thought they were gonna rewrite history a little bit and have Van Alden do it.
what understanding? the outcome was unaffected
One of Van Alden's greatest moments.
alexkrycek21 Van Alden Made this show not just another gangster saga. Well Done!!!
Dean O'banion never had the makings of a varsity florist
Such a great show. I also love the style of the suits back then, they all really need to come back. Waist coats just look so sharp & badass.
Very little central heating back then. Buildings are kept too warm these days for all those wool clothes. They do look good, though.
That’s across the street from Holy Cross Cathedral in Chicago. Numerous of gang land murders around that area.
One of my favorite kills. O'Banion had zero redeeming qualities.
I don't know, that money back guarantee was pretty cool.
1:20 notice how Shannon not only intimidates him but also makes him step back😂😂😂😂
Van Alden as he was spilling his guts suddenly looked bigger whilst the room looked like it was getting smaller and darker.
Frankie Yale knocked of a couple of leaders, thing he was just the go to guy
Yep. First with Big Jim colosimo
Ben Bridges They could make an better character out of him. The actor didn't match him neither.
@@markuskruger4789 Had he be sent to Manny and Angela Darmody would still be alive.
1:32 After hearing all that he’s just like do I kill him or myself
“What says your sorry and won’t do it again?”
What a torturous, bizarre life Van Alden led, exceptionally portrayed by Michael Shannon.
Joe Masseria and Frankie Yale did not have nearly enough scenes.
I use this line every time I walk into a store now.
Well that’s gotta be awkward.
Or use the Flower Shop scene from the movie The Room as well
@@alisterfolson Hi dahgii
Bro was like fuck it I’m convinced just keep sweeping.
I love how non of those bullets hit the glass behind him.
I guess he REALLY didn't like his suggestion...
When you take down the mask and the true self reveals itself.
"Welp."
"Let's have a look at what's gonna be my budget when I'm inbetween jobs."
Well at least he gave him a nice flower at the end…like a at a funeral
The hitmans where: Frankie Yale, John Scalise and Albert Anselmi.
2 died by the bat
In reality, the closest L tracks at the time were 5 blocks to the West of O'Banion's shop.
Over Franklin Street.
The subway was later built beneath & parallel to where the shop once was at State & Superior.
During The War
That's a High Caliber Handshake😂😂😂😂
Now this has to be one of the greatest scenes from this show, what a twist
2:32, guy looks like DeNiro, lol
This hit ain't nothing compared to how Hymie Weiss got it.
Across the street
ah, the bully discovering he bite more than he can chew is always such endearing to watch.
god damn i’ve never seen a hit so smooth
How many hits have you seen?!
Frankie Yale was cold...
Costantino Milvio HE WAS A COLD BLOODED KILLER