The Scandalous Life of Pastor Ted Haggard... And His Dark Return | Documentary
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- In the early 2000's, Ted Haggard was recognized as one of the most prominent pastors in the United States. He was President of the National Association of Evangelicals, a best selling author, served on several state boards, and spoke with then-President George W. Bush by phone every week. He pastored a megachurch of 14,000 and taught conservative values... But Pastor Ted was living a double life, one that was more shocking than a chemistry teacher cooking some blue sky. In 2006, what Pastor Ted did in the darkness, literally, would come to light in front of the entire world.
Video Chapters:
0:00 Intro:
1:41 Chapter 1: Ted & Tongues
14:33 Chapter 2: Empire of Lies
28:27 Chapter 3: The Comeback King
46:05 In Loving Memory...
46:39 Pets of My Subscribers
Intro & Outro Music: Promised Land by Tim McMorris
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Hey guys, the audio jumps around a bit from minutes 7-12 (that is the only part of the video like that). We had a few copyright claims we had to trim out, but the story should still be understandable. My sincerest apologies!
Thanks for clearing that up. Enjoying your content but the jumps were a bit distracting. Still subscribing. Keep up the great work.
Oh, I thought it was a buffer, which would be odd actually. no problem, and no need to apologize.
There are at least 2 parts like this.
God Damnit!!! (just kiddin')
@@panam747🤣🤣 best comment!
One of the most disgusting things about people like this--besides the hypocrisy--is them gaslighting their innocent partner into thinking it's *their* fault. Creep.
They are psychopaths!!!!!
Yes , that was not someone who was admitting they are the problem and that is a red flag that there is no change in behavior
He is just wicked
@@B.A.Pilgrim Is this you Gayle?
I feel like I want to go to church. 11323
The audacity of this man to tell Gale ANY of this was her fault... This was HIS decision, his choice.
His gaslighting of Gale was disgusting.
That's Evangelicals. Everything is always a woman's fault. Nothing is ever a man's.
Lordshippers are some of the most prideful, wicked people you will ever meet.
They talk grace through faith but then redefine faith as obedience and belief as total commitment.
They say that you must repent of your sins to be saved.
That's law keeping and has never saved anyone or contributed in any way to salvation.
Saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ "alone" for salvation.
Repentance of sins is a service issue.
Salvation is absolutely free and not conditional upon service.
I serve God faithfully out of love and gratitude for the free gift of salvation, whilst the faith plus works equals salvation crowd serves God to help out with their salvation.
Therein lies the difference between us.
@@hogansheroes2793 no true Scotsman right there
And the absolute disgusting audacity of him to try to have sex with her that night, knowing that she was trained to submit to sex with him whether she really wanted it or not. Repulsive. Women are objects to the church, because it's an organisation by and for men, this can't be repeated enough.
The thought of the escort seeing one of his clients talking crazy on tv and going “🤨 I know that ain’t who I think it is…” is actually hilarious 🤣😭🤣😭
Hahahahahahah
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How millions of people can’t see through these professional grifters and liars is beyond me.
There are millions more people who can see right through people like this, but cults are sheltered from reason.
Right 😅
Cognitive Dissonance and a "Follower" mentality help.
You mean human beings, since grifters and liars, along with much worse, are in every walk of life? You people love scapegoating religious hypocrites - when hypocrisy and bad conduct is to be found all over the place.
True
This guy is like a ‘kissing cousin’ to Tim Ballard in the LDS church
“I did buy meth but, I threw it away” 😂😂
Lol 😂😂😂
Sounds possible enough
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Sure he threw it away. He was into the massage .
Agreed, anyone that believes that is an idiot. Where there is smoke there is fire. He has sexual problems! Shame on him. So sad his wife could not see the truth. He’s a liar!
drives me insane to know that whistleblowers seeking justice are the ones that often suffer the most in these cases. Love to Mike
I agree. Mike is the true hero of this story.
The messenger is the first to get shot.
Very true.
The culprit denies the allegations then the entire community condemns the whistleblower.
in this case, there is no such justice, neither was Mike a victim. Thats not how logic works. He wasnt harmed or disadvantaged whatsoever. So no, he is not a person seeking justice.
@@allinaday9882 your words didnt generate any meaning at all to be honest. Wtf are u trying to say?
How disgusting that he trys to blame his wife for him straying outside the marriage.
All narcisists do this!
When u love someone and u trust and believe them and u are blinded by their lies ...I know how that feels! U make them ur life. Many a day I sat on our front porch while he traveled for work and cried and asked God was i such a bad person that i deserved being lied too, cheated on, screamed at that everything was my fault? I had quit dressing myself up...Quit wearing makeup,,,cooked for him, making sure he had everything he wanted, never denied him sex, mowed the 5 acres and maintained the house so he wouldn't have to do anything but rest when he came home. Lived thru alcoholism and screaming and yelling because he made the living and believed I did nothing, everything was his, and I had sold my house that I had before we married and put the down put on, let my kids live thru his greed and selfishness...a job I had written his resume and sent in for him being a Corp Dir. Of Facilities over 37 facilities over multiple states which involved traveling, but of course he landed the job thru his interview because of his knowledge and abilities, but it went too his head and he was the boss of everything..me, the house, my kids (that weren't his, and he always let me know that) he had made me give up my business and my license years before that, saying it cost him money for me to work but I was stupid to realize it was the control of not being able to control the money i made and what i could give my kids. People like that hide their deciet, cheating, verbal abuse with sick ideas and that u are nothing without them so u become brainwashed.....these sick people understand control.
Indeed. Koolaid drinkers.
Hes a narcissitic sociopath...he blames his problems on everyone else
As with the other doc I’ve seen if yours, this too was well-researched and legit journalism. And damn compelling. I say that as a national journalist of 30 years. Nice work.
I am acquainted with two people who came from Australia to attend one of the Rev Haggard's classes. Upon arrival, they were informed that the Rev Haggard was "in disgrace" & that the class had been cancelled. They never received a refund. This occurred years before the famous scandal broke. Haggard's escapades were known to the church leaders long before they were exposed.
Oh wow 😮
@@Morning404 Are you surprised? Haggard is one of those "He doth protest too much" types.
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Demons
Blaming his wife, disgraceful!
It was her fault that she didn't have a penis. Duh.
That pissed me off too. 😤
Feeling bad for the folks that trusted him and were donating to this disgusting individual !
Nah, that's actually expected behavior from a narcissist. What should disgust you is that she didn't dump his goofy ass immediately. Instead, she chose to try and salvage their business. She's pretty gross, too.
Yes that made me mad
Been running through your channel, just wanted to quickly say that you're stuff is awesome and I genuinely appreciate all the effort you clearly put into this. Thanks!
Indeed ❤
I really thank my Mom for telling me when I was young to never worship the man/woman (women were not allowed in our church) in the pulpit- she said they are no better than we are- I honestly didn’t understand that then/ but as I got older I appreciate her wisdom ~ ❤️
In my 70+ years of being on this earth I can assure you that the people who yell the loudest about certain "sins" are the ones who are committing those sins more than anyone. Like the husband who accuses his wife of cheating when in reality HE is the one who is cheating. And in my opinion these hypocritical preachers are the worst of them. This is why so many people have moved away from organized religion. If they lie about one thing, they lie about everything.
10000%
@@Duracell231 I'll add a few more 000's
Wow. Attacking people… then bringing Satan’s influence into damaging behavior. These aren’t white lies. It’s hypocrisy. I was raised Southern Baptist and saw this hypocritical behavior everywhere. Having faults and acknowledging them can actually build trust within a congregation and between people. This behavior doesn’t. It’s destructive and hypocritical. This is why you could never pay me to step into a church ever again. Please be kind.
Most if not all rich televangelist are conman ,charlatans,andgrifters
@@brotherpaul963 bla bla bla.
Well. Didn’t expect to see my former pastor’s face on my TH-cam feed this morning. 😳 I look back on those days and I cringe. My younger self fell hook line and sinker for all of it. I’m not proud of that. And I’m sorry. All human beings deserve the same basic human rights. Everyone ought to be able to go about their lives without fear of being discriminated against or physically harmed. Isn’t that what America should be about?
I want to say one more thing. Mike Jones, thank you. You had the guts to do what nobody else would. And you paid a terrible price. I’m sorry. I’m not someone who had any influence or authority in the situation, but for my part, for putting someone like Ted Haggard on a pedestal, I’m sorry. You deserved better in the aftermath of all this.
Very commendable of you. Thougb i would say i find these churches to be predatory of ppl who are omly seeking comfort in their lives. Your ability to grow and learn is more than enough. Peace ✌️
We are all on a path of learning! Glad you found the light. I imagine you feel much better outside such a judgmental environment! ❤
Your revelation shows that you have a heart like Christ. I went through the same thing, realizing that conservative Christianity is a farce, and that Jesus wants everyone to feel loved and accepted. I'm so glad you shared your experiences because it's encouraging for those of us who also live with some shame from that period of our lives. 🙏🏻❤️
You’re all very kind. Thank you. ❤
@@lotusthemermaid That's an amazing comment. I never thought about the difference between Christianity and "conservative Christianity", but you're so right.
That car interview was an eye opener for his wife. She couldn't take her eyes off of him, and shook her head before looking at the reporter in the end. I really feel sorry for her. On the other hand, she agreed with ruining gay people's lives.
His repetative lying...seemed TOO easy
I lived in Colorado when this was unfolding and I remember the local tv and radio news covering this nonstop. I felt really bad for his family, especially his wife. At first. That didn’t last very long. I’ve seen so many famous ministers turn out to be extraordinary sinners in my lifetime. Power and fame can be well-handled by very few.
Well, I still live in Colorado and congratulations for getting out. It's turned into an absolute cesspool. These mega churches are evil. Christ taught us to sacrifice and take up our cross. All of these Joel Olsteen types teach people money to be their God. They're an abomination.
Very few indeed can handle power and fame.
As a professional narcissist, Ted Haggard has always someone else to blame for his actions.
God doesn't want you to be an abused doormat, Gail.
I can’t help but laugh every time a mega church pastor gets caught
👏🏼HERE👏🏼FOR👏🏼IT! 😂
Am I right to suspect Joel Olsen????
@@ann-sylvianalule305 Joel Olsen or Joel Osteen ???
@@sakuraesther6309 my apologies .. I meant THE Joel Osteen ..
@ann-sylvianalule305 I suspect there will be a lot coming out about that fraud in the coming years.
Very much enjoying your uploads. Just stumbled across you lastnight and am enjoying every second. Keep up the awesome work! Subscribed!
PS: It seems there were edits done after posting. I assume that said person in this video tried some sort of strike against you? Still a great vid
"For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.” Luke 12:2 kjv
How ironic that Mike Jones is the only person that was honest in this whole sordid tale. Kudos Mike, you're a hero.
bootlicking queerism doesn't give you any credibility in any way no matter how much google you have in your mind
@@DennisMHenderson Yeah a true hero doesn't involve himself in slinging meth.
They're both wrong, but Mike has way more integrity and he provides actual useful services. A rub and tug and some Tina, that serves a purpose. Preaching/running a massive church and making false promises along with bogus prophecies, that leaves you with nothing but fairytales and an empty billfold/bank account.
@@saulespino2510 yes, the hero in this story is Ted himself. Take your time tell it, he bought the meth but he threw it away because it's wrong. Ted is a hero in every story he tells.
Edit, I should have also included that I completely agree with you 100%. I have never seen or learned of any heroes that sell dope.
Yeah ratting on someone that did something illicit with you for your own gain makes you a snake.
I went to the same high school as Rev Ted. Too bad no one is looking farther back. His Dad's preaching was in a major PBS documentary in the 70s--Middletown. Fascinating.
Growing up in charismatic churches, even then I still felt uncomfortable and weirded out by speaking in tongues. My entire childhood, my dad said it was a thing that happened if you just had faith. I remember at 15 or 16, praying with people around me, laying their hands on me. I kept thinking... Why is nothing happening? Why don't I feel this rush of holy power coursing through me?
After what felt like an eternity but was only about 10 minutes, I began to fake it. I felt like they were all expecting something to happen, so I just pretended. Only as an adult did it occur to me that all of them were pretending too.
That’s what they all do. Not really faking but caught up in the emotions
I know many Evangelicals who have confessed the same…maybe it does exist but so many people have not
I speak in tongues. It does not come through others wanting you to have this gift. I wanted to speak in tongues to please Jesus and no one else. If you don’t speak in tongues you are still saved and loved by Him.
@@RapturereadyforJesus tongues isn’t some unknown language. To speak in tongues what would happen is let’s say you have a church of English speaking people and there is a Russian there that doesn’t understand. Speaking in tongues would allow someone to speak where the Russian would understand.
This is what the Bible says about how it works. All the gibberish talking is of the devil
@@Daniel-yd7mx no, speaking in tongues is a gift from God that only He understands. When we pray in tongues, we remove all human thoughts so that the perfect will of God is spoken.
There have been testimonies of one person speaking in another earthly language that ministered to the person understanding that particular language.
It is up to the Holy Spirit to decide how He wants to use tongues.
1 Corinthians 14:2 KJV
For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
We need to applaud one of the biggest heroes of this story. Mike really did THAT. He definitely knew that this would socially destroy him, that he could very likely have attempts on his life. Yet he stood up to that sham of a man even though literally every single odd was not in his favor.
An absolute Queen of both the lgbt and anti corruption communities.
Yes, bravo to you Mike👏👏👏👏
But why is Mike so ANGRY?? If his purpose was to expose TH and his hypocrisy, he has fully achieved his objective. Well done! Good job! But the anger says something else. Is it because he wasn't paid as much as the others?
Yes I do commend his motivation to expose Ted when he was being so deceitful to those around him and potentially bringing deadly diseases home to Gayle.
His need to be a male hooker, umm, not so sure about that.
Just because mike likes guys doesn’t mean he wants to be a girl or a queen
Ooooh, wow, Mike Jones is one of those gossipy, small town whores Norm warned us about. Such a hero.
When I saw this guy on Breaking Bad, I thought that psychotic smile is him being great actor playing deranged lunatic. What a shocker when I learned this was his regular expression. How are people not seeing this?
This is what happens when we don’t make ourselves accountable to others. Ted’s second church was set up with leaders, called Elders, but they had no voting power in church direction. A pattern that Mr. Haggard has maintained throughout most of his life.
The unmitigated audacity of this man at every single turn to refuse to take responsibility for his own grown adult actions - denying it constantly and only confessing when he had no choice, then daring to say to his betrayed wife’s face that it was her fault for any of it! Gail is an incredibly sad example of how toxic the mentality is about marriage and relationships in many religious circles. I can’t stand this man
Just remember we're almost done before God and giving account also remember that God the creator of heaven and Earth has the first and last word on everything I pray he repent before he does God
"I bought it but then I threw it away." I can't stand that. Nobody fucking does that. You don't buy the drugs and throw them out. If you go as far as buying, you're going to use it. The audacity is off the charts.
@@leroy2110 huh?
lol
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That first guy ''talking in tongue's'' was seconds away from blurting out yabba dabba dooo. lol.
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🤣💀 it made me so mad and now I'm hollering
😂😂😂
I've watched a few of your videos and they are put together very well!
Mike Jones you absolutely Rock. Very glad You brought this pos to the light. I am sorry for what you endured, especially during this time. NTGG You are really great at bringing these videos ❤❤.
He blames his wife for his actions. Enough said.
Haggard’s Astonishing Hypocrisy is Still a Wonder to behold 15 years later.
Straight Nonsense! Blame the wife I don't know what to say.
Haggard says that “blaming his wife” was and still is The Christian thing to do because that’s what Adam did in the Garden of Eden. Tbh, alien and ufo conspiracists make more sense than religious people.
What an asshole to blame his wife!
I know right!!! How could she do that to him.
I have so many feelings about Gale and how religion can turn women into victims and perpetrators. Her putting out for Ted after finding out the horrible things he did, including endangering her sexual health because she had told other women to do the same thing made me sad
Some religions can turn people, not just women, into victims.
Evangelicals teach from birth a woman's role... they know in no uncertain terms that men are required to commit Adultery with Hookers.
Putting out 😂😂😂😂
I don't pretend to know what all the victims feel or felt..but I do know that how OR what one chooses to forgive or not forgive is their prerogative...their choice. One thing is for sure the amount of unforgiveness one holds-in can weigh very heavy on one's soul and it can physically & emotionally tear and bring one down even to the point of death depending on how added anger hooks onto a person's being. I believe the Pastor's wife is simply trying to live her Faith out in forgiving her husband. In Matthew 18:21-32 the Lord Jesus was asked by one of his disciples(Peter) on.."How often should one forgive their brother ( in Faith) who sins against them? Jesus answer was..."not only 70 x 7 BUT 70 X 70...." meaning an infinite/limitless amount of times. Christ's Word (The Holy Bible) speaks in his prayer (Matthew 6:9-13), "...and forgive us AS(same as) we forgive those(others) who trespass (sin/do us harm) against us..." encourages us to forgive AS we would want others to forgive us. DO NOT judge the Pastor's wife for wanting to forgive...ONLY God knows what he has asked of her and PRAY God's strength & blessing is over her and her children. In the end each one of us will face our Maker & Creator as to how we lived our lives; what we did with the breath of life HE bestowed on us during our human journey on this earth and/or whether or not we took to heart to love and forgive AS HE did with us...To be true to God's Word.
ONLY he knows what sin lurks in our minds and souls...God have mercy on us. NO ONE is above God..., "...for it is written, Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.".
@@evacastilleja2385 forgiveness is just an excuse for people to act like trash and do horrible things because they can guilt people into 'forgiving' them and do it all over again. It's disgusting how religion is gaslighting people.
I'm so sorry Mike Jones. You did the right thing. I'm happy you brought this to the light. The Bible says what is done in the dark will be brought to the light.
Thank you for the documentary. I was angry & saddened by it all. I knew Ted & other pastors there. I was a pastor at another very large church in Colorado Springs. One of the things I noticed in my involvement with New Life church, was a lack of real accountability… I often wondered, does Ted have anyone in his life who is holding him accountable and vice versa? We all need those kinds of people in our lives, to help us with our own potential blind spots. I remember after the initial scandal and his admission, there were people that were involved in a restoration process and eventually Ted allegedly came out from under them. That raised a pretty big red flag for me. One of the people who was mentoring him was Pastor Jack Hayford out of the Los Angeles area. Jack from all accounts was an incredible man and passed away in Jan 2023 at age 89. Jack wrote dozens of books, was on the radio, and was very well known. There were no scandals associated with him as far as I know.
Why did the good Pastor Jack waste so much time on Ted Hagerty? I’m not condemning him but I think it was unwise. There are so many others with better souls in greater need
It's all false religion
You mean like Elvis? All yes-men for the money
@@steveperreira5850 I absolutely disagree. Everyone is precious, in God sight. All of us need God’s grace every day. God doesn’t give up on anyone in this life and neither should we.
@@steveperreira5850 Agree. Would you expend a year of effort on one piece of baggage like that, or a day of effort on somebody who actually just had a bad time? Ready-Teddy went out of his way to grift, cheat, lie, and then sleep around.
Thank you for showing empathy towards Mike Jones in this video. What he did was incredibly brave and I hate to hear that he's had to suffer for speaking out.
He should learn to respect his clients privacy instead of betraying them.
What they do or dont do outside their paid meetings is none of his business.
@@cocksure8430 no, that no longer applies when one of your clients is literally campaigning to make sure you don't have basic human rights (for the exact same thing that they're doing with you).
Also, in general, if a client harms a s worker, they no longer have any duty to keep the client's identity private. S workers are NOT the ones in power in these situations, the clients are.
@@cocksure8430 Man, you didn't watch the video. Mike reported a SHADY SCAMMER, showing the perfect family picture, only to protect a multi-million BUSINESS! People can do whatever they want IF not taking the money of thousands of people believing him + promoting a low against gay mariage and shaming gay people, when HE IS the one cheating on his wife, doing illegal drugs and gay himself. I hope thanks to Mike at least a few people opened their eyes and stopped making this guy richer and richer.
@@cocksure8430 Mike is not a doctor, or a lawyer, or a clergyman. There were no confidentiality agreements signed in this case. Mike is a member of the community just like anybody else, who has the right to expose a wrongdoing and stand up for his human rights.
@@SilhouetteSE Mike is a hero!
When I was 12 my bestfriend and I met some girls at our neighborhood pool. We all became friends. 1 of the girls was the daughter of a pastor and the other girls went to that church and their private school. While we went to public school and I was raised catholic. Anyway we were invited to go to a summer camp and we went. While there were fun things to do at the camp like horse back riding and go carts and water slides, we were expected to go to church services every morning and every night. This is where things got crazy. There were all these exdrug addicts getting on stage and saying how the lord changed them and everyone was speaking in tongues and people were passing out. The 2nd night we were there we walked out of church service and there was a boy around our age acting intoxicated. I was concerned and asked if he was ok. They responded to me that the boy was drunk in the holy spirit. This boy was thrashing around and acting insane. That night my bestfriend and I decided to call our parents cause we wanted to go home. My mom came and got us 2 days later. It was like a 10 hr drive. I'm 41 now and remember it like it was yesterday.
Haha yeah, there is weird shit like this in religion. I’m used to it cuz I grew up in it, but now as an adult it seems crazy that grown adults believed all of this stuff.
Good on you and your friend for not getting caught up in the hysteria.
I will tell you about a passage in the Bible about the Apostle Peter. On Pentecost, Peter went out and was telling the people about Jesus Christ. He was speaking in every different language of the people there. Jews, Greeks, Samarians, etc. People thought he was drunk because he was speaking in different languages so everyone would understand what he was saying. It was 9:00 in the morning. My point is, that people are affected by the Holy Spirit. I know for a fact. Some people fake it, but it is also a fact that the Holy Spirit will impact that person to an extent that they are filled completely with the Holy Spirit, and they laugh and dance and are filled with joy from the Spirit. Some people would think they were drunk, but they were NOT. You have to read the whole Bible to understand just what the Holy Spirit does in someone's life.
@@JesusismyRock773 Pfft, you blathering on about stories from the holy book of fables is not helpful. Surely if you'd actually read the book you'd be at the very least skeptical.
This is the same book with talking animals and this god dude committing mass murder 😆
"drunk in the holy spirit". OMG 😆😆
I want you to know how much I appreciate you saying "their/his/her God" instead of just "God". I grew up in an evangelical church and the hypocrisy drove me away from organized religion in general and was somewhat traumatic; your phrasing it this way is so welcomed.
Same, I've become straight up anti-clerical. Even as a Christian.
Love your show, Josie. You have a great voice and you make the stories very interesting.
What always stuns me is the Bible has TWO reasons for divorce. Abuse and adultery. You DON'T have to grin and bare it. 😢
According to the bible from what I’ve seen it’s only fornication
@@Memo4Christ fornication is between singles and adultery is for married people stepping out of their marriage
Two more reason; trying to teach a spouse to drive, and and assembling flat pack furniture together.
JESUS acknowledged the lady at the well marriages, all 4 of them, then he told her to marry the guy she was with.
He didn’t say anything about her previous divorces.
IT IS OK TO GET DIVORCED IF THINGS ARE NOT WORKING OUT. life is too short!
Man created marriage and created the threats of divorce. This was to keep the woman clinging to him while he galavanted around acting like a “Christian”. This isn’t exclusive to men. Women do the same thing too.
@@cotswoldcuckooI think, you are confusing the Bible and an IKEA catalog (although I'm not sure which has the most magical thinking) 🤔
I hate how he said if he was younger (in his 20’s) he’d call himself bisexual but he doesn’t now because he has a wife and they like their simple life. You can be in a loving relationship with someone of the opposite sex, and STILL be bisexual. It doesn’t mean you need to cheat on your partner with someone if the same sex though, that’s just a shitty person thing.
Exactly I agree
Well put. 'Bisexual' does not equal 'cheater', but apparently in this man's value system it does.
Right! When you are heterosexual and marry, you don't stop noticing or being attracted to others. You just make a decision not to go there, not to put yourself in a situation where you will cheat. He's a cheater and a liar and a blamer. And a grifter.
Exactly
I used to be a flight attendant. One day I had Rev. Haggard & his wife as my guests on board. Most likely I was one of the few ppl in Europe who knew who he was. It was a short distance flight, hence my encounter with them was very brief. The impression I got was, that she is quite a Karen... I said my piece.
Best business? Religion.
This is what these zealots do!! They preach that if YOU sin you are going to hell but when THEY are caught doing these "hell-worthy" activities then suddenly it's them being _"tested by God"_* & then they declare themselves _forgiven!!_ Snake oil salesman doesn't even begin to cover it!!
100%
Do as I say not as I do 😂
Also I stole your money because I helped you, you didn't help me a lie a manipulation. I saved your life in front of everyone.....????? ANOTHER LIE!! A preacher did this to my friend smh a fake,
None of them know the first thing about the true God
This is the most ludicrous thing I’ve ever heard in my life: “Ted and I believe God used a gay masseuse to rescue Ted from the sin that was destroying him. God has used the devil to accomplish his will.”
Do these people realize how ridiculous this sounds???
@Kyle Charland that was the craziest thing for me, too. So many mental gymnastics (as well as dehumanizing rhetoric towards Mike).
His wife : yep, that sounds PERFECTLY legit 😇😂 (and it's ok if my husband still needs plenty of other gay masseuses regularly... God needs time to use the devil to accomplish his will 🙄).
Kyle Charland. No. These people don't know how ridiculous they sound. If they did, they would shut up.
So bizzare. As a Christian woman, I'm disgusted that these people pimp Christ as part of the grift. They're not believers, they're decievers.
No more ridiculous than claiming that some comic book "God" copied from books
that were written in languages you can't read had any role to play in this dumb show.
It feels icky to me that Ted kept pursuing Gayle when they were in college when she was already in a relationship with someone else, then later on he threw her under the bus so she still feels like it's her fault and she keeps forgiving him. I don't know if those things are connected, but it's hard not to consider it. I hope Gayle can find her way out of this trap she's been stuck in for 30-odd years and that Ted accepts who he truly is, so he can stop hurting people.
She and Ted look like twins- it’s so weird, yet logical that many couples look so much alike.
I feel sorry for Gail. She's holding on Faith in God and faith in a man.
From the video, I understood that she wasn't in a relationship, but she did end an engagement from high school, and was crushing on one of the Osteen's. Lol. Ted then came in and convinced her to choose him.
He's so unattractive in every way.
@@boatymsboatface3929 I think that's sorta common, you just end up having some sorta sync.
My Skeptical Self found your channel today; it is perfect! Thank you for shedding light on our world's criminally-oriented scammers.
Wow, some time ago I watched a few of your MLM videos. I recommended them to other people a couple of times. I didn't realise it was your channel while watching this video. Great content. I subscribed.
The hypocrisy and corruption of people like him is just staggering. It should always be exposed. Another kick-a** video, Josie!
The way he spoke to Grant on that voicemail message gave me chills. He sounded so conniving and evil. He will never accept the pain he's caused others (and continues to cause others). I'll NEVER understand how people continue to cover for him and support him. They are as MUCH to blame as he is. They empower him to continue exploiting vulnerable people.
Now we need that fruity-pansy hypocrite of Joel Osteen. Smack him across his face would be a great day for me and a bunch of others. Erase that stupid smile off his face and watch how he'd call it a "devil's move". 🤣
WAKE UP LADY. YOU BOTH DESERVE EACH OTHER NEXT HE'LL ASK YOU TO ENJOY THE DRUGS AND MEN WITH HIM.
Does it matter if corruption is exposed? Jimmy Swaggard is still taking money for his religious services after caught frequenting prostitutes over and over again. People still think he is a man of God, and listen to his ramblings, then give him their money. Swaggard has never had to work one day in his entire life. He just rakes in the money and does his sexual stuff. LIfe is good for Swaggard.
My dad went to New Life. He was always telling me how great Pastor Ted was. My dad was crushed when the news broke.
The tricks they use at these events is very ...its very pleasant. They mister up feelings of all kinds and you deel very deepl emotionally moved. They also use the same things in hippy cults. And even hitlers rallies. Hours and hours of it ...ive been to the hippy ones and was like christ on a bike this is like the nuremberg rally... lol. But i have to admit you feel great from it. Hours of calling singing crying drumming shouting spazzing about with permission to fháil around on the floor. Weird.
@@Padraigp My dad said later it was like they were hypnotizing them with the singing
Well if he supports the things this psycho supports then I'm sorry but I don't really feel all that bad...
I’m sure your dad was affected as well as the entire community. Nobody wants to feel deceived especially within a religious community. Mike Jones most likely had been dealing with his identity his entire life and because of the non supportive side of peoples opinions, it unfortunately got the best of him. That’s not saying what he did was not wrong but there’s a lot more in-depth reasoning to why people do things like this. Hopefully over time everyone can move on from it with more understanding and knowledge.
People tend to worship the pastor and not the God they are suppose to believe in.
My cousin, a now retired highway patrolman, gave oral roberts a ticket twice for drunk driving years ago.
Did anyone else get that "Uh-Oh" feeling while looking at that hot tub "family portrait" 😶😶😶😶😫😫😫🤫🤫🤫
As a bisexual person, it’s weird hearing Ted say such accurate things about bisexuality like “gay men who have heterosexual sex aren’t asked to come out as straight [so why should I come out as gay?]”
But then refer to his sexuality as the problem. His problem isn’t being bisexual, it’s cheating on his wife.
Unlike what Ted seems to think, bisexual people can be faithful to their partners just as well as anyone else can.
He kept calling sexuality complicated and never brought up the word “bisexual” and it never seems to occur to anyone else either. The bi erasure in the culture was really getting to me. (I am also bi)
His problem is his promotion of JudeoChristian bigotry against homosexuality.
His problem was (1) not doing as he preached and (2) shaming people for cheating on their spouses and staying true to their sexuality, while he indulged in both. His problem is hypocrisy.
THIS MAN IS A GREEDY LIAR!!! LIARS SHOULD NEVER BE REWARDED!!! HE SHOULD ROT IN HELL!!!
Say it louder for the people in the back!
All churches need to pay federal and state taxes like now
The world makes no sense at all letting them get away with no taxes....Scientology is going down hopefully too.
Mike Jones was my trainer at the time, he told me about this right before it all went down. Mike was a really nice guy and a good trainer, I respect what he did and why he did it! I knew he was about to make a life-changing move and it was going to be tough. I have to say I was a bit shocked by the story, however, I was more shocked at Mike's side job and that I was in a "six degrees of separation" situation. Christian hypocrisy and the fall of another hypocritical pastor stopped being shocking long ago, it's par for the course. The ones screaming the loudest are usually the ones doing the most dirt. His questioning by reporters made me think of a movie line " if you're going to lie, for God's sake lie quickly!" Obviously, you can't pray the gay away!
What an interesting story. He seems like a truly good person and someone who obviously had a million times more moral fibre than that disgusting hypocrite. He paid the awful price that whistleblowers do, and it's a shame on American society.
@cosmicmuffin322 He is a good guy and what's sad on the Ted side is, as long as you claim you found Jesus, it's all good, all is forgiven. Even with all his repeat offenses, they'll pretend it never happened. The hypocrisy is why you have so many leaving the church now. That church does owe him an apology, he was dragged through the mud. He'll likely never get it, but I hope he's now okay without it.
Fake news
Ain't I jubilant here? Thanks. The REAL kingdom of devils is tumbling.
@@electricaf365 You're right. You're fake. Glad we got this out.
You have great documentaries. I binged all of the the last few days.
I feel so bad for Mike Jones, he did the righteous thing and he was ostracized. But what he did helped victims come forward. 💔
Male prostitution and meth dealer?
Funny that Ted sought to expose Oral Roberts for stepping out on his marriage and faking religious miracles only to be exposed for both of those things himself. Lol
When you point the finger on someone 4 fingers are pointing back at you.
Was Oral Roberts really involved in extramarital relationships?
@@c.greystone9825 damn if I know. Ted didn't bother to tell us 😂
He was already living a double life and thought everyone was doing the same thing?
"Yeah, the your meds Oral, and you'll quit seeing that f*ckin 500 foot tall Jesus"
~ Sam Kennison
Oh I reckon Gayle knew of Teds little peccadilloes. But she was damned if she was going to loose her position as Missus Head of Evangelicals. Plus she would have had a very comfortable life from church contributions. I’d say she was furious and was totally complicit in trying to cover up.
Your documentaries are such high quality, thank you for everything you do
I don’t suppose he’ll ever see this, but all love and positivity to Mike. He did a good thing for a noble reason and was punished for it. I truly wish him all the happiness and joy for the future.
Beautiful comment ❤
Dude was using meth with paying sex clients. It's not like his life was headed for success before the scandal broke. I find it funny that he isn't blaming the meth use or paid sex work for any of his problems. By the way, I think all sex work should be legal. But it's still an unstable and dangerous way to make a living.
I called him on the phone
Yes, those male escorts are so admirable!
This is the real danger of religion. it can even wrap a bunch of shit and sell it to people as a bouquet of flowers!
You know what’s so unsettling? The UNSEEN/HEARD damage he did to keep his image clean over the decades. I can only imagine how many casualties there were from that “man” and “church”. Disgustingly abhorrent. Thank you, NTGG for another excellent documentary ❤. Merry Christmas!!!
@I'm a little eggroll 💯 agreed. It's scary to think how many more (silent) victims he left in his wake. Thanks for watching and Happy Holidays! ❄️
@@notthegoodgirl Hi,
The one man pastor over his/her congregation, is not biblical, and because of this, all manner of corruption occurs!
If one studies the new testament on the "functions" not leaderships of elders, deacons, wot not, using principles of exegesis, hermeneutics, history, one finds elders ( men + women who were and still should function as bishops and pastors) who were comforters within, not above the priesthood of believers in Jesus Christ.
This doctrine of the one pastor only descended from the Babylonian mystery religions.
@@notthegoodgirl When there is ever a false doctrine, as in the "One pastor over" destruction follows sooner or later!
@@notthegoodgirl Hi Thanks 4 the 👍 up, if that was you or anyone else?
My opinion? The best thing a believer in Jesus can do, to avoid coming under this false system, is to leave Church, all and every single denomination that exists, because they all into it.
Even Churches that have boards of "elders" or the "Eldership" which is basically the same as the one pastor, elders under him/her system!
The above is the office, wethers the elders were merely functions by elders for the weak, + new to the faith, not for those who are mature in the faith, who go directly to God, not a person, although one can still go to the above for help?
The above is a responsibility of the whole body, not just for the elders, in helping the new + the weak!
@@decathlonevent Luckily, more and more people are walking away from organized religion and realizing they don’t need a church to worship & feel close to their God/Jesus/The Holy Spirit. Although I identify as an Agnostic Atheist now, I was raised in a family of Believers who didn’t feel the need to follow the path of performative church going Christians, thankfully. My step-dad is an avid outdoorsman, he’s always said he feels closest to his God out in the woods; I think that’s beautiful.
I love your channel and content!! New sub!!!
I remember him preaching two weeks before the scandal and he said something that did not line up with Christ and I got up and had to walk passed everyone. God put judgement on him..
Wow you must be so smart and blessed by a non existent god….
There are a few things more loathsome than a religious hypocrite, but not many.
This is just so disgusting. Pride, power, hypocrisy beyond words. Never put a man on a pedestal. I hope he is no longer serving in any ministry.
You did a really good job on this video, Josie.
Excellent production quality!
Just started watching today... most probably will subscribe before the week is out.
HC-JAIPUR (19/12/2023)
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This is insane how far in denial people can go only because they are afraid of themselves. If somebody when he was 17 would have told him :"I will love you no matter what" it would have change his entire perception of acceptation. So sad.
I briefly married a closeted gay man who will never come out because of his Evangelical upbringing. His family would completely turn away from him.
He's married four women trying to "fix himself"
@@nicolehall694 Sad. These "fix yourself quests" are usually futile and only make others suffer needlessly.
😲
@@nicolehall694 I'm sorry for your experience which must have been difficult, and I'm also aware of the trap that some non-compassionate fundamentalist families put their members into, keeping this man from ever living his true self.
Well stated.
He joined a Christian school for a car? So, he became RELIGIOUS for MATERIAL GAIN.
Sounds about right.
hahaha
I'm watching from Scotland UK and when you mentioned soldiers in a religious war showing the brave heart clip absolutely me burst out laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️💯. I found that hilarious for some reason 🤣🤦🏻♂️😜👍
Thank you for sharing with us!
There’s an interview with Haggard in the Richard Dawkins video, “The Root of All Evil?” The snarky tone, the sneering upper lip, the lethal, unblinking stare of a wolf, the passive aggressive remarks - they all spell “sociopath.” They can be seen here too.
I live in Colorado Springs and did attend New Life for a while. Honestly, he always seemed evil to me. He preached against homosexuality intensely... I can forgive the sin but, I feel like he should stop preaching. Gail is sitting back silently... makes me sad she's not stepping up.
Holy shiz Its the church by pikes peak community College. I used to drive by it everyday!!!
Sure thing buddy
He has creepy eyes. You can’t hide that kind of thing.
She should leave.
It’s disasters like this that make me so grateful for the exceptional pastors and members at my small church. :)
Hahahaha...
@@MrGoogelaar
What's so funny? 0_0
@@FuddlyDud Everyone always thinks their god and their pastor and their church are the best and most flawless, Ted told his wife he had gay feelings yet she believed him when he denied what he was doing, she even believed him a second time, can't you see the irony of it all?
Don't be surprised when one of your exceptional pastors tumbles from the pedestal that you put them on.
@@MrGoogelaar
"Everyone always thinks their god and their pastor and their church are the best and most flawless..."
Ok...what does the ad populam fallacy has to do with the specific circumstances of my church? :P
Also, I never said my church was either the "best" or "flawless." One can be grateful for something despite its flaws, otherwise gratitude would cease to exist.
"... Ted told his wife he had gay feelings yet she believed him when he denied what he was doing, she even believed him a second time, can't you see the irony of it all?"
100% I see the tagic irony. :/
"Don't be surprised when one of your exceptional pastors tumbles from the pedestal that you put them on."
Hence why they are not on a "pedestal," but rather fill a certain role well. We are all painfully human, yet I am grateful for the humans at my church regardless of their flaws and foibles. :)
@@FuddlyDud You obviously don't grasp the irony of what you wrote: " the exceptional pastors and members at my small church" just after watching a video of how a pastor miserable failed while he was trusted...
Just found your channel. Love it
I feel so bad for Mike Jones. I wish him all the best.
And then he blames his wife for his own choices! Straight out of the Narcissist’s Prayer: I didn’t do it. If I did, it wasn’t that bad. If it was, you deserved it/it’s your fault.
Lol I always forget the Narc Prayer and its the best !!
I knew teddy was gay the first time I saw him laughing 😃 and it is showing in his eyes 👀 😳 😭
Yikes.
Just found this channel, thank you!! I was ordained man Episopal priest a couple years ago and the hatred and vitriol from Evangelicals is staggering. I have been branded a baby killer, a heretic to think it was ok to be a woman and ordained, for starters. Shining the light on the darkness within the church is brave and necessary. Thank you!!
False religion
Just found your channel last night and loving it
Him speaking in tongues sounds just like when I was a kid and I pretended with my friends that we could speak French. 😂😂😂
They all know it’s nonsense too. So strange.
While I don't support what this pastor did, I have to be honest, tongues are real.
@@bongiperez7565 Tongues are real they are also one of our stronger muscles and we can lick with them LOL
@@navileblond9981 Absolutely, we can taste yummy food with them and we can speak in a Heavenly language with them. Tongues are indeed awesome. LOL
The apostles were accused of being drunk when they spoke in tongues on the day of Pentecost.
Grew up in church. Played in the church band. Mowed the church lawn. Replaced air filters, fixed broken pews. Glued together dog-eared hymnals.
The church is full of hypocrites. And there's more than you'd think.
Watched the pastor of a local megachurch stay silent while a stagemate berated another human being over her facial appearance.
Another pastor owns a church, leads song service....after singing in his bar band the night before.
Saw with my own eyes, the pastor of a church drive the church basketball team with a female high schooler on his lap.
Church isn't a building, person or group. It exists in your heart.
And I pray that these experiences do NOT take you away from Jesus Christ. All of this is appalling to Jesus. He speaks of this about the end times and mentions so much of what these Pastors are doing. Read the Bible, talk to Jesus, live the way the Bible says we are too, and do not give up on Jesus. Christianity is not a religion, it is a personal relationship with the Living Christ. Follow Jesus and read your Bible. Then you will be able to discern who is preaching the word of God and those that aren't. So many say they are Christians, but their actions prove who they really are.
What's wrong with playing in a band at night.
@@pauladouglas9891
Not a thing. If your not drunk and have no church to preach to the next morning. #fakechristian
@@JesusismyRock773
Church isn't a building. It's in your heart. The hate I see spewed by evangelicals on a daily basis makes me never want to return to any formal congregation.
The church has found a new king. A king who's middle name is hate.
The golden calf at CPAC tells you all you need to know about politics, religion and evangelicals.
You don't need a building to talk to God
And no man is any closer to God than anyone else...they are the highest of arrogant.
Excellent job! Great work.
@5:00… ghostbusters cereal! Good one!😂
I went to this church for a good chunk of my formative years. I saw Ted Haggard every single day. I never once had a good feeling about him or being in the church. His story is some how the LEAST and MOST surprising story. Ted converted me to an Atheist!
Wow! That’s interesting! I grew up in a Pentecostal church and go to a different (actually, more horrible 😒) one now. I stay because I am a teacher to the youth group and I am passionate about teaching our youth- not just about God, Jesus and his teachings- but ALSO to be critical thinkers. I invite and ENCOURAGE them to question everything- including anything I say but more importantly, what any leaders (in the church but also anywhere) say.
I get bad vibes from a lot of the leaders in my church and it irritates the hell out of me. I’m curious- did you ever share your feelings about Ted Haggard with anyone while you were there? I detest how villainous anyone who “questions the leaders” become anytime they voice their opinions - or “worse”, - don’t agree with the leader😒
@@okoala62 My youth leader was a REALLY cool guy. I wanted to be just like him. We connected on sports, skateboarding, art. He seemed like the big brother I never had. Only once did I mention to him that I felt weird around Ted and from that moment on it kinda seemed like the older brother who doesn't want to be seen around the lame young sibling.
Shortly after that I expressed to my Mom that I didn't want to return to church and she was very supportive and open with the discussion. I tried other churches after that, and remained a believer, but nothing stuck. I wouldn't become an Atheist until I graduated from college 10ish years later.
don't let people affect your beliefs. if you lost faith because of another's fault, you really didnt have it in the god yoyu read about but the church and the people there. so, have conviction within yourself, for your own sake. if you are truly atheist, stand by it and be sure of it, if you turn to god, learn about hi and not his fallen man
@@IronKoreEx-Christians might first consider atheism in response to witnessing the obvious judgements, failings, and hypocrisy within their churches and their church elders, but make no mistake - it’s the complete absence of ANY proof of ANY god whatsoever, that confirms and cements our loss of faith.
@@IronKore I didn't lose my beliefs because of Ted Haggard, he only made me rethink that specific church. The thing that ultimately changed my beliefs was the beliefs and teachings themselves.
I'm a female, and I know a lot of people don't want to believe it exists, but this guy made my "gaydar" go haywire the very first time I saw him.
I worked with a guy who was married a few years to his college sweetheart (a lovely woman) and always thought he was a closet case…. a few years ago I saw him on social media at Pride with a boyfriend….. he must’ve left the wife… it was so obvious
Same here, so obvious
@@strawgynxking5944 I wish he would have been able to admit his truth. I don't judge people as long as they don't make victims of anyone else.
Excellent job. I thoroughly enjoyed the documentary.
Oh I forgot to say NEW SUBSCRIBER!!!!😁
It’s sad people are still following this man. I feel sorry for Mike and the others who Ted hurt.
They are sick idiots and deserve what ever happens to them.
Not many.
Mike was speaking the truth while Ted was the liar.The founder of Hillsong church Australia sexually abused this young man and no one believed him. Just like Mike no one believes him.
And its sad that people are still following his religion. Arrogant men like Trump and Haggart believe anything they say is true, or at least believed. Most important is that homosexuality must be acceptable and therefore open. This is why Christianity, which teaches differently, cannot ever be relavent and healthy in society.
So do I. And as a Texan, Conservative and Pentecostal, I’m Proud of Mike for outing Haggard and exposing what a Hypocritical Tool he is. Haggard knows WHAT he is and NEEDS like Larry Craig stop denying his Homosexuality. I WILL NEVER stand up for Homophobia in the Church.
It's always the arrogant ones screeching about morality and how people aren't good enough Christians that are doing some super shady shit on their off time.
Guarantee this guy still has fans. Sad
I like your sound tracks in the documentary
Hebrews 9:27 KJV
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
Here in South Africa, American preachers are worshipped. Thank you for your educational, informative doccies. Hopefully you'll visit our country someday.
Love,
From South Africa
Love and peace to you. 🌹 it's always disturbing when people worship a man. We saw people who once worshipped Christ bow down and worship an unregistered sex offender with a porn star wife. It's a cult.
@@miapdx503 these days more and more of these cults are popping up
@@lebogangshovhote473 I don't know about "cults" but there's one big one...and they want to destroy the nation.
Preachers are a business they do it for the money! Most of them are hypocrites.
money is their God.
Mad respect to Mike for being a man of integrity. I find it utterly despicable that sex workers are treated as somehow less than anyone else and I also find it sad that potential partners have run a mile , like whyyy? All he displayed was honor and integrity and care for other gay people particulary young ones being forced into conversion therapy. He did a brave thing and honorable and if that's not attractive then I don't know what is. I truly hope you find happiness and peace because you deserve nothing less Mike. Shame on you gayle for basically calling him a devil in your pathetic book. And shame on you Ted for messing with young men in your congregation and then lying and trying to manipulate them with your forgiveness crap. Thanks Josie for telling this story.
Prostitutes are not less than anyone, their actions are however what drags them low. We can't treat these actions like they make the world a better place when infact they often do the opposite.
Any potential partners have the right to not want to be involved with a sex worker, even ones who were not involved in any scandals.
While sex workers should be allowed to practice their profession in a safe and legal environment, it is also the right of their prospective partners to pass them over due to it. People are allowed to have their dating preferences.
@@Beex848
Prostitution is the oldest profession-by your logic, society has only gotten increasingly worse since the advent of agriculture.
Also, greater false moralizing there, claiming you think prostitutes aren’t lesser than everyone else and then immediately calling them low.
@warlordofbritannia uhm I think i said their actions drag them down not that they are generally down. I'm also not sure about the agriculture part and it's relevance to what I said but ok.
@@warlordofbritanniaprostitution is not the world's oldest profession. It is more likely midwife, hunter, farmer.
Nobody liked a knock at the back door better than Haggard.
Binging on your excellent documentaries, it's these big church con artists I love seeing get busted, thank you.
I would be proud to know Mike Jones! He deserves a good relationship and job, I wish I was in a position to hire him.
Great job! I want to thank you for giving Mike a voice in this, I remember feeling very sad for him because of the villainization he endured for simply doing what he thought was right.
Mike did do what was right.
I grew up going to New Life. After Haggard left and Brady Boyd took over as head pastor my parents faith really fell away. We stopped going to church shortly after that. In hindsight, there’s definitely a very bizarre energy in that church.
The world tends to define people by outside look ,their clothes,their wealth,their title .we found out it is deceitful.If you want to know who someone truly is, watch what they do when no one is watching.What a hypocrisy when these so call pastor are preaching Jesus said not every one calling my name will be allow in My Father Kingdom.
All religions are cults. Of you really want to know about your religion... research it using outside sources.
So they weren't following Jesus Christ they were following the pastor?. No bueno.
@@SunsetBoulevard111eh, not really. Though I can see how you'd come to that conclusion. I think they were already having a lot of inner turmoil about religion and general and the pastor situation was just the final nail in the coffin.
In 2009 l read an article of the evolution of "Church" leaving Jerusalem and getting to Greece it became philosophy, further to Rome it became an institution finally getting to America it became and enterprise. This was the author 's summation and man was he right?(yes he was right!) My advice to all be like the Bereans in Act 17 study the scriptures for yourself, God Himself will open your eyes of understanding.
I would like to point out that God will not hold those people who do this unaccountable. The worse thing Satan can do is run a crooked church and get people to not look there again for answers. Those who help him in that will pay one day
What a weird thing to say. At 23:15, the report asks "Have you ever used meth before?" and Ted responds with "No I have not. And I did not ever use it with him." It's like a child lying about taking a cookie from the cookie jar. "No, I didn't eat no cookies. I definitely didn't eat the chocolate chip cookies in the cookie jar."