Since I will be mailing this mouse, I will be doing one of my "Final Impressions" (long term use) videos for this mouse. Make sure to Sub up so you don't miss it.
Just bought the es and have problem with double klick even though i changed p.rate to 500hz. Only defect otherwise really nice. I agree with you the weight should maybe be little more balanced as it is back heavy
Sorry no Pulsar mice for me anymore. My new X2H mini jams all the computers I connect it to - must be defective microcircuit. So even it says ESport to me this is not reliable technology.
Loved the comparisons here and glad to here how much you enjoy the mouse considering my es is on the way! Great to see they have the option to go either way for those who like the lighter weight and simpler design. One thing I wanted to note is that I'm sure the implementation of the sensor is excellent on the eS as well as what looked like some of the best click latency scores out there based on one of Pulsars tweets (I think i saw 0.4ms). Most likely a nil point for most people and perhaps wouldn't have much effect for the majority of in game performance but it certainly lives up to its competition ready name for those who want to know they have the ultimate performing hardware on paper.
yeah that kinda stuff is useless marketing to many. I absolutely love the es, but finding it hard to justify the extra 30$. I''m still struggling, lol but I tend to gravitate towards the regular v3
I fucking love my ES. I finally found a mouse my hand was meant for. Edit: Now that I'm off work I can add to this. Fit, Finish, Form, Weight is all perfect. Durability is perfect. There is nothing defective with this mouse, it's all still functional. I've had this mouse running on 4k polling rate since I got it 7 days ago and I still have not charged it. At time of typing this I'm at 55% battery life. This lasts longer than my thorn at 1k polling, and it lasts longer than my GPX. A+ to Pulsar.
Not as bold as the DAV3, you can actually dance around and flick this much easier, it’s not “always” touching your palm/top hand like the dav3. The DAv3 is still great, but this is just 🤌
Hey Techne, as a DAV2 Pro user looking to upgrade in the future. Hows this compare to the Thorn, DAV3, Outset AX, or Stormbreaker? I know you did a bit of a video on the topic a few months ago but some of these have come out since then!
Thanks for the video! Already ordered V3 eS version yesterday and this video made me want to try regular V3 to decide which one fits me more, now i have to wait for the next month because no money atm 😅
I was looking over those two mouses last night. I was so conflicted either I get the Xlite V3 or Xlite V3 esports… Closest I have ever hold is around 63G Ergo which it is the Razer Deathadder V3 Pro faker edition. It is interesting that the Xlite V3 esports doesn’t need a software to edit your DPI’s… While the other… Xlite V3 It’s only 55g. I haven’t really made up my mind on getting my first pulsar mouse. I’ll think about this getting either one later.
I have the deathadder v3 pro. I ordered both the es and the regular. I don't say this often - but he's right. The coating of the regular feels nicer to me (like a smoother version of the white deathadder v3 pro feeling, less grainy, takes no time to get used to). I couldn't care less about the aluminum scrollwheel and the screen. I actually don't like these as they "feel" heavier, though they might not. I'm still switching between the regular xlite v3 and deathadder v3 pro (black).
Does your V3 eS have a small secondary audible click from when you release the left and right clicks? Never heard this on any mouse I've owned but not sure if mine is a QC issue and if I should return it?
This 4k dongle per device is pissing me off a bit honestly. Why can't one dongle works with every device from the same brand. I believe Lamzu is like this? As for the metal scroll wheel ... my Kone Dr.Disrespect has one and it's soooooo slippery.
@@TheTechne I sold my Atlantis mini which was 4k but I can still pair the normal Atlantis 1k to the 4k dongle. It's one device paired maximum but still, I don't need to buy multiple.
Shape is King! 👑 It's an ERGO .. YOU like Ergos. I and most Pros like *Ambidextrous* symmetrical mice. So to me it's a No-Sale. For my office, I'm certain it would be fantastic.
@@TheTechne .. I play one game, I have at least $14K invested (CPU-Z J8P8UR) .. I played Call of Duty since there was a Call of Duty multiplayer. I'm a hair away from being 60 and I destroy the kids every day. OMG I wish I were in my teens .. I definitely would go MLG Pro. There is no out of the box mouse that I care to use, instead I use a GPX (I have a ton of them) heavily modded mouse .. but it's the shape that I keep coming back to. I buy literally every okayish mouse out there. It's not about the money. It's not about one brand being better than the other, I literally couldn't care less. None of that matters to me. I only care about how it feels good in my hand and how it translates into aim and destroying the kids. 👍😎
mouse of the year is Finalmouse, stop cappin' 😆jokes aside, Pulsar has been on a war path updating their mice and giving gamers options. love to see it
the ec2 was my favorite mouse for a long time, so I searched high and low for a good wireless clone. None of them felt quite right until I got the xlite v2 mini (i know, it's smaller, but the regular felt a little too big to me for some reason). I played great with the mouse for a while, then became ecstatic when I heard the ec2 wireless was coming out. I bought it IMMEDIATELY, played with it for weeks (months?)... and ended up hating it and going back to the xlite. So, definitely buying as soon as the size 1 comes out in (hopefully early) december!
A magnesium scroll wheel I think. Magnesium is the lightest metal, and only about 1.6 times heavier than most plastics. Weight difference from that is minuscule.
I got my Xlite V3 and I like everything about it except for the coating. Even in your video I can see your fingerprints on the coating, I've never had a mouse do this before. It looks dirty even when my hands are clean, very annoying.
Pulsar continues to be my personal favorite mouse company, the shapes they come out with across all their mice are just unbeatable to me, looking forward to what they have coming up next month!
I badly wanted to try this mouse but after the issues that I have with my 2 copies of x2 Bruce Lee (both have horrible clicks), I'm sticking with tried and tested brands like Razer and Logitech. Great review though.
How does it compare to the Thorn tho? 🤔 The es version has some obvious positives, bettery batterylife, metallic scrowheel and comes with 4k dongle. But also theres downsides, "worse" coating, no rubber on mwheel, heavier and its more expensive.
Thank you for your quality work, I watched lots of your videos and finally I chose v3 es. You say what you don't like and what doesn't work in your review, which is rare now. Suddenly your opinion becomes sincere and true. THANKS
hi bro, a interesting topic is the compatibility with the software, the v3 is compatible and the es no, it´s a problem for the people use 600 dpi or 900 and other thinks
The reason the eS 4k dongle doesn't work on the regular version is probably because the eS version use a different MCU. My guess is that it only works for other eS version's mouses too but it probably doesn't matter anyway since they already have their own dongle anyway
Possible, or it has its own specific wireless channel to minimize interference at LAN events. Their goal was an "esports" version and there is usually a lot of other people using wireless tech and stuff.
best and honest reviewer on yt, love your content, the pressure tool thing was a bit weird to see first time but maybe its gonna be new meta :D cant wait for me normal V3 to arrive, nice to hear that you prefer the v3 over the es v3
Hi super video, thanks! I would like to ask do you have any plans compare Pulsar Xlite V3 vs Lamzu Thorn its only mouse with same shape which you didnt compare and it realy missed me.
My issue with the xlite v2 is the scroll wheel accidentally actuating. I know you said the xlite ES is easier to accidentally press but in the buttons portion of your vid, I saw the opposite. You actuated the scroll wheel multiple times accidentally on the regular version and never did on the ES version. IDK what to do, maybe there's another zowie clone without that issue. sigh
@@TheTechne Yeah, I still have to try it... For ergos I have ec2c, dav3, outset, np01, dav2, and I returned the kone. I think that the outset has the most natural shape but it feels heavy compared to the ec2c without the inner-hand maneuverability and balancing. Also not a fan of the way it has the lower part of it that comes into contact with your carpal just taken away... The Thorn would address all those issues I'd imagine-- still curious how it is head to head with the xlite v3 though.
@The Techne How is the scroll-wheel CLICKING on the none ES one? On mine, it's super stiff/heavy, requires so much more force than on my other mice I ever tried.
I'd love to see if the eS actually has a meaningful difference in terms of polling stability because of the driverless version it has. It seems more attractive to me since I have had an issue in the past with the Razer 4k implementation on the viper mini SE because of the software. As well as the wireless polling stability on the coolermaster MM712. The weight at the back does concern me slightly since I have the MZ1 wireless and that has the same issue with the weight feeling a little chunky. I think I have heard that the weight difference is actually mostly because the eS has a larger battery to try and compensate a little better with the 4k polling and less so from the screen. Seems great though. I'm just waiting for the X2H mini eS though (they just announced the regular sized X2H eS is coming soon. Hopefully the mini comes next year soon-ish). Very similar dimensions to the coolermaster MM712 and that is my favorite shape to date. I know the shape is slightly different, but I just don't want it to be too big. Fingers crossed
Pulsar is absolutely killing it, i got the Pulsar X2H mini recently and there are zero issues with it, perfect build quality, perfect shape and size for me, and its hella light
Pulsar remains on my permanent no-buy list. I bought their special edition X2 Super Clear, only for it to have a defective mouse 2 (right click). Pulsar didn't believe me, demanded video proof, and still refused to pay shipping costs to have it sent back to be repaired or replaced.
I loved the shape of the xlite v2 mini when I had the chance to hold it a couple of months ago, now I'm just waiting for the Xlite v3 size 1(mini) to be released and it's a no brainer order for me.
I agree, my xlite v3 eS arrived in today and I am so happy I traded up the outset AX for it. Couldn't of wished for a better Pulsar mouse FINALLY! I just pray the QC stands up as well as the previous v2. Hands down awesome driverless mouse, I thought VAXEE was good with theirs but man! Not having to turn my mouse on & off when changing settings is amazing. Well done to Pulsar I can finally say! ..So far. (prays in QC.)
@@TheTechne I did yeah that M1&2 do feel better also! I just love anything software-less etc! So the eS was just perfect for me. I get it though! If you don’t need all the bells and whistles that normal v3 is perfect still!
@@JQURNEY the Outset is still a solid mouse! I can’t deny, it comes come down to hand support and sensor placement in my opinion. The Outset is one of a kind shape I’ve never had before and it was nice! Sadly the sensor placement was too far back for the way I grip. For me the xlite is better because of sensor being in a more central position. Also the fact I can change any setting on the fly with a clicks where the Outset you have to slide the power switch off hold buttons then switch it back on. Hope this helps!
Would you recommend this to someone with 22x11 hands in cm? Im trying to get rid of my wired model O which feels rather tiny specially the sides. I do feel like waiting for the large one is the move, but the wait for that is another story. Let me know! Relaxed claw enjoyer by the way.
I just switched from a model o wireless to the V3. There's more height in the middle and it's about 0.5cm shorter, but I've switched from fingertip grip to palm grip to relieve some wrist stress. My hand is 20cm and it fits perfectly in my palm. Your fingers may hang over a bit.
I previously used the Logitech G Pro Superlight, but found it uncomfortable due to my hand size, which is around 18 by 9 cm. When using a palm grip, I felt like I couldn't fully grasp the mouse. I also own a Lamzu Maya, which is a smaller version of the G Pro Superlight and feels more comfortable, but I'm still searching for an even better fit. After researching , the Pulsar X3 Lite caught my attention as it is designed for palm grip users. However, based on EloShapes, it appears to be comparable in size to the Logitech, slightly larger, while the small version is similar to the Maya. Do you think upgrading to the Pulsar X3 Lite would be a good choice for me? What I'm specifically looking for in an upgrade is a mouse with a hump that either goes up or maintains a similar height, avoiding a downward slope. The objective is to fill the space between my palm and fingers, not entirely but sufficiently, akin to the comfort level provided by the Logitech G Pro Superlight. Do you think the Pulsar X3 Lite would be a suitable upgrade?
T, as a fellow ergo mice lover - especially the Xlite v2 - I was waiting for this review. But tbh, I had to watch it twice because I was laughing so much during the first viewing that I missed some of the info. 😆 I'll probably be getting the regular Xlite v3. Thanks for yet another informative and entertaining video! 🍻
LETS GO!! Check those banana weights again. I think they may have got mixed up when you set them down to weigh the mice. In my opinion Guatemala bananas are way better. More Banana for sure . Also, it has 0.001ms less latency in comparison to the Ecuador banana, which I am really sensitive to. Ecuador banana does have a better tried and true shape. Oh, the mice look nice too. 😂
OMG love this one. So, I have V2 Wireless and Logi Superlight for daily... Would you recommend the upgrade to V3? Seems awesome to me, truly want to hear what u think brother?
Techne i had a question for you about the difference between virtuoso xt and void pro wireless. Why are the equalizers different between the two headsets, they dont sound the same at all even if i use the same settings. Rn i use the void pro wireless because the sound quality is absolutely insane, bass works amazing for the action packed fights in shows. But i dont get that with any other headset and ive used from 600$ headphones all the way down to 30$ astros.
the void pro's are older, classic 20-20 freq. SO they do have that older preferred deep gamer classed sound. The new virtuoso pro's sound somewhat like that actually, but they are open back and wired
@@TheTechne Ok thanks for the insight on the matter. I have another question if you dont mind; i got another void pro wireless(void elite) and it sounds completely different to my old one. I prefer the sound to my used void over the new sound. Why is that? Also whenever i get void pro wireless headsets, its always the elite wireless is this on purpose or a mistake on my part. Both my headphones are void elites but the first one i got from amazon under the name Void pro wireless. The second time which was today the lady gave me the elite which was my fault for not noticing but yeah are they considered the same thing and im just making pro up somehow lol?
I modded my Xlite v2 so that it weight 66g, but then modded the Xlite v3 eS to 69g, and I still feel a huge difference. This is so uncomfortable and requires getting used to, and this is probably not just 3g more weight but also how it is distributed: I definitely feel the eS heavier and much heavier than the v2 non-eS. They look similar but are different. I wish I bought the non-eS one :-/ the eS is a good mouse, but after a lighter mouse and a well-distributed mass mouse, this is just…. Unpleasant.
Hi @@madarasoun3018 , most likely you can't. The mouse isn't supported by any software, it is self-sufficient and what is there doesn't allow for any customisation.
I bought a DAV3 and the Xlite V3 and sent the DAV3 back. This mouse felt better in palm grip and once I've been using it for a few minutes, grips really nicely. For reference my hand is 20cm.
Since I will be mailing this mouse, I will be doing one of my "Final Impressions" (long term use) videos for this mouse. Make sure to Sub up so you don't miss it.
The best thing that came out of the finalmeme release was turning this into a smoothie making channel.
Video coming soon
Next video Techne needs to wear a Carmen Miranda fruit hat. That will be the internet win of the year.
@@the12gaugeshotty don't tempt me
It really is that good. I was surprised I like it as much as I do. The only question for me is what spot will it be on my top list.
Just bought the es and have problem with double klick even though i changed p.rate to 500hz. Only defect otherwise really nice. I agree with you the weight should maybe be little more balanced as it is back heavy
Just ordered this mouse in white, the regular V3 no es. Here's hoping it does me justice, been on my superlight for a while now.
ohhhh now I want it in white :(
Sorry no Pulsar mice for me anymore. My new X2H mini jams all the computers I connect it to - must be defective microcircuit. So even it says ESport to me this is not reliable technology.
Loved the comparisons here and glad to here how much you enjoy the mouse considering my es is on the way! Great to see they have the option to go either way for those who like the lighter weight and simpler design. One thing I wanted to note is that I'm sure the implementation of the sensor is excellent on the eS as well as what looked like some of the best click latency scores out there based on one of Pulsars tweets (I think i saw 0.4ms). Most likely a nil point for most people and perhaps wouldn't have much effect for the majority of in game performance but it certainly lives up to its competition ready name for those who want to know they have the ultimate performing hardware on paper.
yeah that kinda stuff is useless marketing to many. I absolutely love the es, but finding it hard to justify the extra 30$. I''m still struggling, lol but I tend to gravitate towards the regular v3
Im so happy that this mouse turned out good, because I preordered it before there were any reviews about it
your gonna love it
I fucking love my ES. I finally found a mouse my hand was meant for.
Edit: Now that I'm off work I can add to this.
Fit, Finish, Form, Weight is all perfect. Durability is perfect. There is nothing defective with this mouse, it's all still functional. I've had this mouse running on 4k polling rate since I got it 7 days ago and I still have not charged it. At time of typing this I'm at 55% battery life. This lasts longer than my thorn at 1k polling, and it lasts longer than my GPX. A+ to Pulsar.
this is why I always praise Zowie still. shape is no joke king
I KNEW IT!!! If you had to compare it to the deathadder, how would you say its different and where does it flare more / less ?
Not as bold as the DAV3, you can actually dance around and flick this much easier, it’s not “always” touching your palm/top hand like the dav3.
The DAv3 is still great, but this is just 🤌
Hey Techne, as a DAV2 Pro user looking to upgrade in the future. Hows this compare to the Thorn, DAV3, Outset AX, or Stormbreaker? I know you did a bit of a video on the topic a few months ago but some of these have come out since then!
I’ll be covering that topic soon. Just need a little more times with all, to get my head wrapped around them and key differences
I dont know why But i feel happy for Guatemala :D
Thanks for the video! Already ordered V3 eS version yesterday and this video made me want to try regular V3 to decide which one fits me more, now i have to wait for the next month because no money atm 😅
the es is awesome for sure. Just kinda cool extra features for the $, but at the core use the regular is just wow!
Could you make a comparison to the Lamzu Thorn?
yes
I was looking over those two mouses last night. I was so conflicted either I get the Xlite V3 or Xlite V3 esports…
Closest I have ever hold is around 63G Ergo which it is the Razer Deathadder V3 Pro faker edition. It is interesting that the Xlite V3 esports doesn’t need a software to edit your DPI’s… While the other… Xlite V3 It’s only 55g.
I haven’t really made up my mind on getting my first pulsar mouse. I’ll think about this getting either one later.
Trust me and snag a regular V3, it’s amazing!
I have the deathadder v3 pro. I ordered both the es and the regular. I don't say this often - but he's right. The coating of the regular feels nicer to me (like a smoother version of the white deathadder v3 pro feeling, less grainy, takes no time to get used to). I couldn't care less about the aluminum scrollwheel and the screen. I actually don't like these as they "feel" heavier, though they might not. I'm still switching between the regular xlite v3 and deathadder v3 pro (black).
Does your V3 eS have a small secondary audible click from when you release the left and right clicks? Never heard this on any mouse I've owned but not sure if mine is a QC issue and if I should return it?
Hello, my xlite v3 es has this sound when I release the right click. Did you return your mouse?
@@peter3d226 I did
@@funkmetalDid you get a better copy? Overall the shape is nice
@@peter3d226 yeah, I got an exchange instead of a refund
Nah... Lamzu Thorn is far better. I think Lamzu Thorn is the Gaming mouse of the year.
Watching this video while using my g703 lightspeed and EC2-CW lol.
can you put PTFE of the V2 on the V3? thanks
might buy it cause of the video lol
The stress test deserved a pay check from Pulsar
Techne, I have to ask the question that we've all been wondering. How many strawberries do YOU weigh? 👀
FWIW most of the weight difference between the two is due to the higher capacity battery in the ES version.
MINI RELEASE DATE WHEN
Pulsar Xlite V3 mini Ultimate performance gear
And now I play the waiting game for the blue v3. I have too many black mice.
This 4k dongle per device is pissing me off a bit honestly. Why can't one dongle works with every device from the same brand. I believe Lamzu is like this?
As for the metal scroll wheel ... my Kone Dr.Disrespect has one and it's soooooo slippery.
Man I was thinking the exact same thing about the dongle
@@TheTechne I sold my Atlantis mini which was 4k but I can still pair the normal Atlantis 1k to the 4k dongle. It's one device paired maximum but still, I don't need to buy multiple.
Shape is King! 👑 It's an ERGO .. YOU like Ergos. I and most Pros like *Ambidextrous* symmetrical mice. So to me it's a No-Sale. For my office, I'm certain it would be fantastic.
speaking as pro's, I think it depends on what game we are talking about
@@TheTechne .. I play one game, I have at least $14K invested (CPU-Z J8P8UR) .. I played Call of Duty since there was a Call of Duty multiplayer. I'm a hair away from being 60 and I destroy the kids every day. OMG I wish I were in my teens .. I definitely would go MLG Pro.
There is no out of the box mouse that I care to use, instead I use a GPX (I have a ton of them) heavily modded mouse .. but it's the shape that I keep coming back to. I buy literally every okayish mouse out there. It's not about the money. It's not about one brand being better than the other, I literally couldn't care less. None of that matters to me. I only care about how it feels good in my hand and how it translates into aim and destroying the kids. 👍😎
Can start to tell you are so over the mice hype lol. I respect it. Stay true.
😂 always “Stay True”
Great vid and comparison. Would love to see Vaxee and Lamzu ergo offerings compared to the Pulsar
mouse of the year is Finalmouse, stop cappin'
😆jokes aside, Pulsar has been on a war path updating their mice and giving gamers options. love to see it
lol, mouse of the year for 💩 release 🤣
Please review the LAMZU MAYA 😀
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What about the large and mini version?
Everything about the eSports edition just seems gimmicky and unncessary. Paying extra for the dongle basically.
Yeah, cool for sure, but not needed
@@TheTechne Agreed. I have the DAv3 with the 4K dongle, and the 240Hz OLED monitor, and playing at 4KHz vs 1KHz is still not noticeable imo.
turtlebeach just announce thier new controller called Stealth Ultra! cant wait till you do the review on it
It looks so good right
the ec2 was my favorite mouse for a long time, so I searched high and low for a good wireless clone. None of them felt quite right until I got the xlite v2 mini (i know, it's smaller, but the regular felt a little too big to me for some reason). I played great with the mouse for a while, then became ecstatic when I heard the ec2 wireless was coming out. I bought it IMMEDIATELY, played with it for weeks (months?)... and ended up hating it and going back to the xlite. So, definitely buying as soon as the size 1 comes out in (hopefully early) december!
What didnt you like about the ec2w?
A magnesium scroll wheel I think. Magnesium is the lightest metal, and only about 1.6 times heavier than most plastics. Weight difference from that is minuscule.
did they fix the double clic issue on the v2?
I got my Xlite V3 and I like everything about it except for the coating. Even in your video I can see your fingerprints on the coating, I've never had a mouse do this before. It looks dirty even when my hands are clean, very annoying.
Sorry if i can't play the mouse with my left hand = not worthy to look at! :) (signed front of liberation of the left handed mouse gamer)
Pulsar continues to be my personal favorite mouse company, the shapes they come out with across all their mice are just unbeatable to me, looking forward to what they have coming up next month!
I also love what pulsar is doing, but we gotta give some of that credit to Zowie, a few of their shapes are there as well.
Lamzu have that spot for me - for now.
@@TheTechne gotta agree with you there, Zowie paved the way for sure!
@@fwabble they are definitely a very close second for me, I really wanna try out the maya!
Scale shows 64 grams and you said 54 grams.
I badly wanted to try this mouse but after the issues that I have with my 2 copies of x2 Bruce Lee (both have horrible clicks), I'm sticking with tried and tested brands like Razer and Logitech. Great review though.
How does it compare to the Thorn tho? 🤔
The es version has some obvious positives, bettery batterylife, metallic scrowheel and comes with 4k dongle.
But also theres downsides, "worse" coating, no rubber on mwheel, heavier and its more expensive.
Just give me a lite mouse with a logitech hyper scrolling option, because I can't live without it.
Thank you for your quality work, I watched lots of your videos and finally I chose v3 es. You say what you don't like and what doesn't work in your review, which is rare now. Suddenly your opinion becomes sincere and true. THANKS
@@bis444 🤝
I got the es version I don't feel the 6 grams difference the thing that is a positive I don't have to go into software
hi bro, a interesting topic is the compatibility with the software, the v3 is compatible and the es no, it´s a problem for the people use 600 dpi or 900 and other thinks
The reason the eS 4k dongle doesn't work on the regular version is probably because the eS version use a different MCU. My guess is that it only works for other eS version's mouses too but it probably doesn't matter anyway since they already have their own dongle anyway
Possible, or it has its own specific wireless channel to minimize interference at LAN events. Their goal was an "esports" version and there is usually a lot of other people using wireless tech and stuff.
Both the EC2-CW and my Xlite V3 size 2 have gone back for the Xlite V3 Size 3
best and honest reviewer on yt, love your content, the pressure tool thing was a bit weird to see first time but maybe its gonna be new meta :D
cant wait for me normal V3 to arrive, nice to hear that you prefer the v3 over the es v3
lets see if everyone starts doing it, lol. And thank you so much for the kind words and support
what settings u guys would offer to play in cs2 with ? i cant find the right settings for the mouse
You think the corepadz xlite v2 grips would fit correctly for the v3?
Stay True as always
Nm. They fit pretty well
Hi super video, thanks!
I would like to ask do you have any plans compare Pulsar Xlite V3 vs Lamzu Thorn its only mouse with same shape which you didnt compare and it realy missed me.
My issue with the xlite v2 is the scroll wheel accidentally actuating. I know you said the xlite ES is easier to accidentally press but in the buttons portion of your vid, I saw the opposite. You actuated the scroll wheel multiple times accidentally on the regular version and never did on the ES version. IDK what to do, maybe there's another zowie clone without that issue. sigh
the base v3 scroll wheel is perfect, no accidental actuations, and I'm still using it
Once again thank you for being the best ergo shape reviewer on TH-cam! Please do a video putting this head to head with the thorn!!
the thorn was weird, good but weird
@@TheTechne Yeah, I still have to try it... For ergos I have ec2c, dav3, outset, np01, dav2, and I returned the kone. I think that the outset has the most natural shape but it feels heavy compared to the ec2c without the inner-hand maneuverability and balancing. Also not a fan of the way it has the lower part of it that comes into contact with your carpal just taken away... The Thorn would address all those issues I'd imagine-- still curious how it is head to head with the xlite v3 though.
@The Techne How is the scroll-wheel CLICKING on the none ES one? On mine, it's super stiff/heavy, requires so much more force than on my other mice I ever tried.
it is a bit firm, but very very little travel, so it kinda balances out. As I said in this vid, the regular V3 feels much better
I'd love to see if the eS actually has a meaningful difference in terms of polling stability because of the driverless version it has. It seems more attractive to me since I have had an issue in the past with the Razer 4k implementation on the viper mini SE because of the software. As well as the wireless polling stability on the coolermaster MM712. The weight at the back does concern me slightly since I have the MZ1 wireless and that has the same issue with the weight feeling a little chunky.
I think I have heard that the weight difference is actually mostly because the eS has a larger battery to try and compensate a little better with the 4k polling and less so from the screen.
Seems great though. I'm just waiting for the X2H mini eS though (they just announced the regular sized X2H eS is coming soon. Hopefully the mini comes next year soon-ish). Very similar dimensions to the coolermaster MM712 and that is my favorite shape to date. I know the shape is slightly different, but I just don't want it to be too big. Fingers crossed
Yeah the tech packed in the es is cool for sure, but shewww the regular v3 just feels so pure and natural in the hand.
Might have to just pull the trigger on the mini X2H from the sounds of it with the 4k dongle. Ahhhh the choices@@TheTechne
@@IStratz oh man this v3 is a must own
3:49 I own a xlite v2 and had an x2 mini. I would beg to differ 😂 Learned my lesson. Gonna wait on this one and wait for then long term review!
I would bought this mouse if it dont had the right stripe it doesn't fit my setup :(
That ES cable end looks like a thunderbolt connection with those extra teeth.
This review has convinced me to return my EC2-CW and get the Xlite V3 regular edition. Thanks brotha!
Pulsar is absolutely killing it, i got the Pulsar X2H mini recently and there are zero issues with it, perfect build quality, perfect shape and size for me, and its hella light
Pulsar remains on my permanent no-buy list. I bought their special edition X2 Super Clear, only for it to have a defective mouse 2 (right click).
Pulsar didn't believe me, demanded video proof, and still refused to pay shipping costs to have it sent back to be repaired or replaced.
ah man thats not cool, did you ever get it worked out?
I loved the shape of the xlite v2 mini when I had the chance to hold it a couple of months ago, now I'm just waiting for the Xlite v3 size 1(mini) to be released and it's a no brainer order for me.
Cant wait for that turtle beach stealth ultra wireless xbox controller vid
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I agree, my xlite v3 eS arrived in today and I am so happy I traded up the outset AX for it. Couldn't of wished for a better Pulsar mouse FINALLY! I just pray the QC stands up as well as the previous v2. Hands down awesome driverless mouse, I thought VAXEE was good with theirs but man! Not having to turn my mouse on & off when changing settings is amazing. Well done to Pulsar I can finally say! ..So far. (prays in QC.)
The crazy thing is the V3 regular feels even better
@@TheTechne I did yeah that M1&2 do feel better also! I just love anything software-less etc! So the eS was just perfect for me. I get it though! If you don’t need all the bells and whistles that normal v3 is perfect still!
Hey man I’m torn between getting this or the outset what makes this better ?
@@JQURNEY the Outset is still a solid mouse! I can’t deny, it comes come down to hand support and sensor placement in my opinion. The Outset is one of a kind shape I’ve never had before and it was nice! Sadly the sensor placement was too far back for the way I grip. For me the xlite is better because of sensor being in a more central position. Also the fact I can change any setting on the fly with a clicks where the Outset you have to slide the power switch off hold buttons then switch it back on. Hope this helps!
@@AINGIRY thanks i think im gone buy both lol !
after watching this i decide to pre-order a v3 size3 :)
Would you recommend this to someone with 22x11 hands in cm? Im trying to get rid of my wired model O which feels rather tiny specially the sides. I do feel like waiting for the large one is the move, but the wait for that is another story. Let me know! Relaxed claw enjoyer by the way.
I just switched from a model o wireless to the V3. There's more height in the middle and it's about 0.5cm shorter, but I've switched from fingertip grip to palm grip to relieve some wrist stress. My hand is 20cm and it fits perfectly in my palm. Your fingers may hang over a bit.
You missed the battery life comparison.
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When the ES is an extra $30 in the US but $50 extra in Canada 💀
im planning to buy v3 es but im claw grip is that okay?
The real question is - do they come in red?!?
I previously used the Logitech G Pro Superlight, but found it uncomfortable due to my hand size, which is around 18 by 9 cm. When using a palm grip, I felt like I couldn't fully grasp the mouse. I also own a Lamzu Maya, which is a smaller version of the G Pro Superlight and feels more comfortable, but I'm still searching for an even better fit. After researching , the Pulsar X3 Lite caught my attention as it is designed for palm grip users. However, based on EloShapes, it appears to be comparable in size to the Logitech, slightly larger, while the small version is similar to the Maya. Do you think upgrading to the Pulsar X3 Lite would be a good choice for me?
What I'm specifically looking for in an upgrade is a mouse with a hump that either goes up or maintains a similar height, avoiding a downward slope. The objective is to fill the space between my palm and fingers, not entirely but sufficiently, akin to the comfort level provided by the Logitech G Pro Superlight. Do you think the Pulsar X3 Lite would be a suitable upgrade?
get the size 1 shell
T, as a fellow ergo mice lover - especially the Xlite v2 - I was waiting for this review. But tbh, I had to watch it twice because I was laughing so much during the first viewing that I missed some of the info. 😆
I'll probably be getting the regular Xlite v3. Thanks for yet another informative and entertaining video! 🍻
🍻 😂
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that weight comparison had me wheezing like an idiot.
Hi Techne, between the Lamzu Thorn and Pulsar Xlite V3. Which do you prefer?
video coming on that soon ;)
Is there a mini coming out? My fiancé has the v2 mini. Curious what’s the big difference or changes
I’m sure they will
Any issues with clicks sticking? It was bad enough with the X2H where I returned it.
none what so ever as of now. they feel so good
LETS GO!! Check those banana weights again. I think they may have got mixed up when you set them down to weigh the mice. In my opinion Guatemala bananas are way better. More Banana for sure . Also, it has 0.001ms less latency in comparison to the Ecuador banana, which I am really sensitive to. Ecuador banana does have a better tried and true shape.
Oh, the mice look nice too. 😂
LOL, SpenC, you need to start a banana channel, and I promise I'm your first sub! 🤣
@@TheTechneso many fruit tier lists. Finalmouse strawberries are S tier for sure.
I love me some strawberry banana juice
But you said this about the DAV3 Pro and the DAV3 wired. Now I’m confused😢
Coming in a video next week. BTW I do still love the DAV3, but this is just more flickable
Is ok to use 4k dongle and just use as 1k
All I am ready for is the demon slayer collab!
F in the comments for the strawberry o7
How many "bofa this mice" you want for this video?
Techne: Yes
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nah. Lamzu Thorn got it this year...
OMG love this one. So, I have V2 Wireless and Logi Superlight for daily... Would you recommend the upgrade to V3? Seems awesome to me, truly want to hear what u think brother?
100% no questions upgrade! but get the reg v3
@@TheTechne will do, tnx for that. Just one more, 4k or no point?
Techne i had a question for you about the difference between virtuoso xt and void pro wireless. Why are the equalizers different between the two headsets, they dont sound the same at all even if i use the same settings. Rn i use the void pro wireless because the sound quality is absolutely insane, bass works amazing for the action packed fights in shows. But i dont get that with any other headset and ive used from 600$ headphones all the way down to 30$ astros.
the void pro's are older, classic 20-20 freq. SO they do have that older preferred deep gamer classed sound. The new virtuoso pro's sound somewhat like that actually, but they are open back and wired
@@TheTechne Ok thanks for the insight on the matter. I have another question if you dont mind; i got another void pro wireless(void elite) and it sounds completely different to my old one. I prefer the sound to my used void over the new sound. Why is that? Also whenever i get void pro wireless headsets, its always the elite wireless is this on purpose or a mistake on my part. Both my headphones are void elites but the first one i got from amazon under the name Void pro wireless. The second time which was today the lady gave me the elite which was my fault for not noticing but yeah are they considered the same thing and im just making pro up somehow lol?
I modded my Xlite v2 so that it weight 66g, but then modded the Xlite v3 eS to 69g, and I still feel a huge difference. This is so uncomfortable and requires getting used to, and this is probably not just 3g more weight but also how it is distributed: I definitely feel the eS heavier and much heavier than the v2 non-eS. They look similar but are different. I wish I bought the non-eS one :-/ the eS is a good mouse, but after a lighter mouse and a well-distributed mass mouse, this is just…. Unpleasant.
Hi Do you know how i can map the side buttons on Pulsar V3 ES?
Hi @@madarasoun3018 , most likely you can't. The mouse isn't supported by any software, it is self-sufficient and what is there doesn't allow for any customisation.
I just bought the deathadder v3 😮💨
thanks for the review. is there a good EC1-CW clone out there?
I don't think so yet, thats a big one
Has this man joines a gang since i last saw him, about a year ago
LOL
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Which mousepad do y'all recommend for this mouse?
I enjoy the lethal Saturn pro
Would the v3 be good if my current mouse is a Deathadder elite with palm grip?
I bought a DAV3 and the Xlite V3 and sent the DAV3 back. This mouse felt better in palm grip and once I've been using it for a few minutes, grips really nicely. For reference my hand is 20cm.
@@davehetesi7537 i got the DeathAdder i like it