Update: I forgot to take the dongle out of the OG Superlight when weighing. It's 62g without (and thats with my replacement feet) Sorry about that mistake
@@ze3bar Compared to other logetch, zowie and razer mices that I own, clicking is slightly harder but much more confident, you can't accidentally click, at least in my case. And once you do, it's pretty strong and accurate
The only thing that logitech missed in their new G502X and G Pro X 2 Superlight was the switch. This optical switches are far behind the Razer's last version. They must have put mechanical switches instead.
Razer's QC is far behind like everyone else so it kind of balances out. Both are overpriced in todays market with things like Lamzu, pulsar etc in the market. Shit even Glorious has had better QC lately than razer with their DA v3 pro and Glorious makes some good mice for the price, but we all know their QC woes over the years at least they are really good with their warranty unlike Razer who will refuse to replace a keyboard because I took the keycaps off to clean it and the stem on my number 2 key pulled off with the fkn keycap. Apparently cleaning your keyboard voids warranty according to Razer. I recently got a Pwnage SB and while definitely expensive, I love the mouse. It's worth to me since it's practically a EC 2.5, super light and fantastic build quality. The click implementation is some of the best I've ever seen. Optical switches on mice are really just marketing, they serve no advantage over standard switches in terms of latency, consistency etc. They, in theory last longer but tbh that's not a big issue. The SB is my endgame mouse for now, 51 grams, great battery life when not on 2k which is unnoticeable in games at the cost of battery life. Stuff above 1k is really really diminishing returns, barely noticeable on high refresh panels in windows, unnoticeable in games besides when they cause performance issues like razer's 8k in some games and even 4k in a honestly pretty wide range of games. Plus SB click latency is crazy low, just as low as razers 8k optical mice, showing like I said optical serve no performance advantage over standard switches. They aren't like keyboards were you can set profiles for gaming with magnetic switches that switch from typing modes at high actuations to low actuation like .1mm.
@@Abadeez Nah, optical switches are not marketing, in fact optical switches could simplified the debounce algorithm, also traditional switches have both electrical life and mechanical life, but optical ones will never scrap for electrical failure
@@ivanborgia3384 I wasn't saying optical switches are marketing, the polling rate is, just like sensors now since they've been flawless for like a decade now. Optical switches are fine, they don't offer a performance increase like they do on keyboards however was my point. They don't reduce latency and they don't feel as consistent switch to switch. Nothing wrong with optical switches at all, but they aren't needed and they don't make mechanical switches in mice irrelevant like they and magnetic switches do in keyboards. Opticals can still fail electrically, that's actually typically how they do fail before their actual mechanical life span. Optical are still mechanical btw, you still have to have practically everything a traditional switch does minus the contact that actuates the switch. Technically optical have more points of failure but tbh switches failing in general isn't really an issue and in theory Opticals can last longer but mechanicals can last just as long. Not putting down opticals but they aren't game changing or even needed at all especially compared to keyboards. They don't off anything better than a traditional switch and in fact they often times feel inconsistent on the same mouse. Razer does well with their switches but even my DA v3 Pro feels slightly different between m1 and m2 not enough that it matters or notice it during game, but the QC on the v3 pro is dogshit so the switches are the least of the concern.
The only reason for me to cop GPX 2 , is literally the adjustable Lift off distance which i always wondered if Logitech was gonna fix it on their mice for people who loved higher LoD.
Tbh, now even newest Finalmouse looks like pretty good deal, especially in Europe, u have UltralightX 8k for 189 usd instead of 169 euro GPX2 2k, and UX is 2 times lighter mice.
Completely agree with the 4k or even 8k polling rate. It is the latest tech, regardless of people think they feel it or not. It should be there. The minor improvements they made doesn't warrant buying this thing imo. This was the best they could do after 3 years? Also, why not release a gpro x superlight mini? That would have been a banger, and a lot of people would have bought it guarantee.
i completely disagree. why would they spend time trying to implement a higher polling rate when it has no noticeable benefits? whats the point? j to say its there? logitech doesn’t usually implement things like that until they are either perfected or actually make a difference. i dont think the minor improvements do warrant anyone that alr has a gpx to upgrade but for the average consumer ( most of which likely have wired) this mouse will b very appealing. i agree more sizes should b made but whos to say thats not otw? overall i just rly dont think not having 4 or 8k polling rate is even close to a big deal. imo shoulda used better switches and maybe nocked a couple gs off the weight.
I disagree. It annihilates your battery even at 2k and it is unnoticeable in games. You can notice even 2k in windows and doing some stuff on high refresh panels like 240hz but it's negligible and you don't notice while playing games unless it tanks performance in that game. Imo mice, especially "wireless" mice shouldn't be pushing passed 2k right now. 2k cuts your battery life in half or more from 1k and you don't notice it at all in games. Even if you do 'feel' smoother it won't provide any performance benefits since your body can't even come close to taking advantage of 1k let alone anything higher. It's fine if you want to push it in wired mice but push it in wireless mice when 8k you're charging the damn thing in like 6 hours is crazy. You don't get a full day out of 4k and 2k you get about 2-3 days, obviously this varies some but it's about par for the course from my personal experience. Compare that to 1k where you can get like 1-2 weeks of battery life, not only prolonging the life of the mouse by limiting battery degradation but keeping you off the wire as much as possible for no real world benefit besides to say "haha im on 4k/8k plebs" except all it does is kill your wireless mouse faster and you'll get no performance benefit from it. Razer should work on making a mouse that doesn't have massive QC issues within a month of use before worrying about marketing with high polling rates. Polling rates are basically turning into mice sensors, where people bitch about it not being THE LATEST 3395 when the 3395 had issues with wireless mice and battery life but has no advantage over a 3370. Shit it has no advantage over a like 3330 except for a big DPI number! OH BOI! Same thing with polling rate, offers you nothing except killing your mouse's lifespan but OH BOI IT'S A BIGGER NUMBER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. Take it from me who owns far too many mice and have used each of them for at least several months. I notice nothing in game going from 8k to 1k, do notice it around windows and some stuff like that but nothing that actually benefits me in real world usage. You sure as hell notice the battery life, degradation and when the game doesn't like it though. I wish mice makers would do what keyboard do with their on the fly profiles, make it so the mouse will in game swaps to higher polling rate and out of games even alt tabbing you can drop it to w/e you want, like 500hz to prolong battery life when you don't need higher rates. I don't know why none of them have done this yet when keyboards have had it for actuation points for years now with the magnetic/optical switches. That makes more sense than the dumb push for higher polling rates just to use as marketing for suckers that think it does anything except kill their $150+ mouse faster for them.
@De4dSp0t I disagree. Both of my 4k mice feel smoother when running in 4k versus 1k. It could be placebo, but I don't think so. Regardless, if you don't want to run it in 4k or even 2k, then run it in 1k then and save the battery. No one is forcing you to run it in 4k. All I am saying is there are people who want that higher polling rate, and it is becoming the standard now regardless of you being obviously bitter about it. At this day and age, and the fact all of these other manufacturers are releasing 4k polling rate at significantly less cost, there is no reason at all that it should not be available on a $150 flagship mouse from Logitech. This is just greed, plain and simple. Terrible release
@@mikerzisu9508 alright boys, letz disagree to disagree🤣 personally i find this new gpro update underwhelming for the price. idk about the polling rate. the weight reduction is so minimal, that i would rather purchase the older model for a cheaper price. or more likely an x2v2/x2h/atlantis mini/hati ace+. i was waiting for this release to see if anything grand comes out of it, but this is note like a mediocre attempt to keep it up to date. hot swap switches or better optical switch that is easily spamable. better side buttons or a least a weight reduction thats in the low 50s. i am sitting happily on my v2 pro and cant find a single reason to even check this out. the other mice i mentioned seem to offer better performance for the money.
The heavier clicking of the optical switches are a real turn off. Part of what I love about the GPX1 is the crispy light clicking. I also like the more tactile scroll wheel. Going into this I was automatically going to upgrade to the GPX2 since this mouse shape fits my hand/grip best. But, after watching this I may hold off. Who cares about USB C charging when you charge it once every couple weeks?
I'm a huge fan of the clicks of the Prime Wireless from Steelseries. I have both the Superlight 1 and Prime Wireless, and I switch between the two depending on what my muscle memory craves - lightness or satisfying clicks.
honestly dont upgrade, its a waste of money, the super light 1 is already such a great mouse you can spend your hard earned money in other more needed stuff itsn ot like you are upgrading from the original gpro the a superlight where the weight difference is key and updated features
It's nostalgic to me, I watched your video on the original one years ago and bought it. After my setup was done I stopped watching anything like this, here I am again wondering if the mouse I have that I have got a good upgrade. Thanks for your honest review and good arguments given, don't stop what you're doing.
I LELED at the Linus reference at :43. Razer for their Keyboard short comings are the kings of Mice. This year its all Asus and Keychron Q's on the boards imo.
6:00 this! Thanks Techne for mentioning the fact that almost every mouse that comes out today sadly has no right side buttons - since Logitech left them out on their original superlight, called it "pro" and sold it for more although it had less. Im not a leftie but i use the right side buttons for secondary fire or zoom, so i have a box of old g pros and vipers because new mice don't help with shooters that require these buttons.
I think the intent was to make a product refresh for people who don't already have the first one and less about being an "upgrade." Even if they added buttons on the other side, I still think it wouldn't have been worth it from an upgrade standpoint. The addition of USB-C here is arguably the only real upgrade worthy of note. They clearly still want you to use the first one for a long time if you already have it.
Exactly. I can see how the value is just not there for somebody who already owns a superlight, or a lighter more recent wireless mouse. I, on the other hand, have a wired OG Razer Viper. I'm going to see if they have a superlight 2 at best buy today while running errands. I'm probably the target for this type of mouse.
I just built my first pc and was hoping on ordering today but wasn't't expecting it to get sold out in the first 3 hours. Anyone know how long it takes for Logitech to restock?
Does it still wake up your PC from sleep upon EVEN THE SLIGHTEST movement? Even on wired? Razer mouse, I had, used to do it only upon clicking. Annoying as..
I found AOC GM530 for 14 euros with delivery. It was on back to school sale so I had to buy another one. Great mouse and for that price it's a bargain. I don't need to buy a mouse for the next 10 years lol.
The thing with the hgiher polling rate is you can see the difference even if you can't notice it. Do you have a 240hz monitor in your studio? If you do and you move your cursor in really fast circlular motion you will see the individual cursor frames right? On 1000hz the gaps between these singular images are not even, on higher hz they get more and more even. Now I don't know where the limit is maybe its at 2000hz, would be great if you could test that. Main reason for me to get the GPX2 is the optical switches though and I still use the original GPW.
Biggest difference is the USB-C port in my oppinion. For us travelling a lot, it does make sense to only have devices chargable through one type of cable.
LETS GO!! Remove that sticky tape off the bottom and help with that friction!😂 Quick tech tip for you. Looks like a solid upgrade. They should have released this upgrade like a year ago though.
Great review! I love my current Superlight, don't really see a reason to upgrade, at least not now. Looking forward to a review on the new G Pro X TKL... can't decide if it looks worth it or not.
Gpx2 to be is obviously the better choice, why? Because i dont own a gpxs1 so might as well buy the 2nd, and thats definitly the case with gpxs2 it was meant as something to buy by people who dont already own the first one
At least you won't get double click issues on new optical switches which we tend to get on Omron switches. I had to change all my switches to Kailh switches on my current G Pro wireless. Good upgrade!
Haus did some testing and found that the 2k polling was just as good as non razer mice at 4k motion latency. However the click latency was worse than the og gpx while both were at 1k. I do have to add that he bought his copy off of someone so it isn't directly from Logitech.
Do you think I will have problems playing games like league of legends because of how heavy the clicks are? because you need to spam click alot to move through the map.
the new switches I love…might upgrade to the superlight 2 when my g pro wireless breaks (left mouse button is loose and worn out, I am expecting it to last another year at most since I’m pretty rough with my mice)
Picking it up myself, had a GPX since it launched 3 years ago. Finally, its started to spin out randomly from time to time, might as well get the new version with better polling and be thrilled.
@@daniellozobia5386 nope nothing like that, i have found a few other people whose GPX started to spin out after enough use as well, seems to just be an uncommon issue.
I hated the coating or plastic type of the black Superlight it leaves handprints and it has a greasy feeling. My brother has the red and it’s significantly less noticeable. Does the black still feel like a regular keycap instead of a PBT keycap in my opinion like it should? Just curious
You gotta clean your mouse. It might just be gunk. What I use to clean the mouse is a Clorox disinfecting wipe the fresh scent. Semi scratch the greasy areas to get a deep cleaning. The coating should go back to brand new and grippy.
I just literally bought the superlight a few months ago but backed from buying and thought i should wait for the Superlight 2. Now, i can say it's worth waiting now, im gonna order this one...
It sucks the side buttons are still subpar. I love the shell material/coating of the Superlight but I have a strong preference for EC2 style shapes. If Zowie ever releases an EC1.5 (in terms of size I mean between the 2 and 1) with an updated shell material like the Superlight’s id be in heaven.
Polling rate is not about feeling it. Its more about the theoretical advantage. That said, to feel it you need at least 240hz, use 1600dpi+ and have a CPU that can handle the polling. Seen in other Benchmarks, the 2khz implementation however, seems to be way better than the 4khz implementation of most mice except razer.
but whats the point of a theoretical advantage bro? i dont understand why everyone is griping ab this. even razers implementation of it isn’t perfect. id rather have perfect implementation of 2k hz than very good at 4k or 8k. maybe j me tho idk
I was honestly hoping for more from the refresh of it. I'll just keep my superlight going, might even snag a second one since i'm going to assume they stopped production of it. I was like "please have updated to usb-c." Honestly though I have a wireless base I throw it on and it's good when I get home from work. Slightly better battery life, and optical switches just aren't enough to push me to get the 2.
Bro be reasonable and stick to your superlight and when superlight 2 get to some dicounts get it as your replacement when your original superlight dies..... Dont buy in this 8k polling shit..... And they will come up whit some new fency number in future.....
I am currently getting a super light 2 delivered tomorrow (May 18th 2024) after my razer deathadder essential scroll wheel was jumping. I will come back once I get it.
The new clicks will help with the double click issue the superlight 1 has. They went with 2k polling rate for the battery life. You will only see a difference on 4k polling rate with a 240hz or higher monitor and a good CPU, it does use power from your CPU.
Honestly, look elsewhere since gpx 1 and 2 are the same shape and it's not ergonomic as 502. Pulsar Pulsar Xlite v3 is coming out soon, maybe Zowie EC3-CW or DeathAdder V3 (similar weight to superlight)
I have OG Superlight Pro, the new Pro 2 and Asus Harpe Ace. After about 3 weeks of usage, Asus wins in all but one category - battery. Asus holds up maybe 5 days at best, thats not amazing. Both Logitech mouse are superior. But other than that, better clicks, much much better side buttons, much better PTFE slides, wheel is about on par. Shape is kinda better on Asus, but not as big. I just cant get of the feeling, the Pro 2 is somewhat unfinised. Side buttons are bad (mine even clicks, but its doing nothing, i have to presss it hard), wheel is weak, those PTFE slides are almost non-existent...its pretty meh in my oppinion, not worth its money.
i had the og x superlight but the only problem i had was that it was to big for my baby hands so i got a lamzu mini so i wanted to know is the new superlight 2 smaller than the og one?
thank you so much for your interest, but I'm going to be passing that one up, as I don't play enough games that will benefit from it to really use/test it
Man, what is going on with tech lately? Everything is just about selling. Literally same mouse but internal changes and type C port being probably the most meaningful change lol They could try anything different? Like, put back the optional extra side buttons or something.
I have the G Pro X Superliight with superglide glass skates on the powermat so charging and battery life arent an issue. I did purchase it in red and then changed pcs and built a white one, so now i kinda want a white one.. may consider this one.. lol
Side buttons is the only reason i dropped my old Pro X superlight for a Razer Deathadder V3 Pro since the side buttons gave out on my old Superlight. The side buttons on the razer are miles ahead and firmer - no mush !!! Its really unfortunate the new side buttons are not much better than the original superlight. Looks like im sticking to my Deathadder V3 pro for now.
What I don’t understand is why Optical switches are now suddenly the go-to trend? You can make a comparison of which company has the better “sounding” optical switch but at the end of the day it’s a much louder and more often stiff feeling switch compared to a mechanical switch like a Pink shell blue dot or Omron switch.
I sometimes use the x y axis dpi because I game and work on my ultra wide monitor. So I have a higher horizontal dpi. Just the usb c alone would be a nice upgrade over my gpx
I totally disagree with the final thoughts here. It's like everybody in the comments is talking like all the reviewers here on TH-cam. Have all actually compared the 2 really properly?! The improvement in the sensor is really noticeable to me, and a very worthy upgrade from the Superlight 1! Make sure you have the settings right to enjoy the 2000hz goodness and away you go. It's the same form factor with a much better sensor then the v1, trust me. And all the fuss about the clicks, man, I don't get it at all. It's like there has to be something people can complain about to get the views and the likes. I start to distrust more and more reviewers these days.
CSGO is VERY dependent on cpu clock speed and I think any application that puts even the smallest strain causes the fps drop. When I have a TH-cam video playing while playing CSGO my fps drops just like yours. 5800X3D/6950XT
I think it depends. Like I play to win 100% of the time in games I play at low settings to get max frames, this is made for me. But for 99% of consumers, this is a bit steep
coming from a red dragon s101-3 mouse to a glorious model o wireless back to the red dragon bc the model o broke, i think it’s definitely an upgrade and was worth it
on 1khz this is shit has more latency than the original... i was waiting for this to see if the dav3 pro is still the best option, and still the dav3 pro or the viper v2 is better by miles
I literally spent 1 hour trying to put my words in a comment on different creators. I think since the gpx is now officially a buget mouse and not a high end mouse this thing is just like 5% faster or what and replaces a buget mouse, wow
logitech should have done something more with the side buttons, their way to mushy and just awful. that would have been the best thing for them to do in order to make it worth
Seems too small of an upgrade for such a pricey mouse. Still just like iPhones, Pros would definitely get this over many others. They're good all rounder for everybody.
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Update: I forgot to take the dongle out of the OG Superlight when weighing. It's 62g without (and thats with my replacement feet) Sorry about that mistake
@@HeadoN1337honestly thought I did. Was a big issue with this mouse actually
@@TheTechneyou mean to say they're hard to click?
@@ze3bar Compared to other logetch, zowie and razer mices that I own, clicking is slightly harder but much more confident, you can't accidentally click, at least in my case.
And once you do, it's pretty strong and accurate
@@CONNNE I wish the click was lighter tbh after some time the top of my hand and knuckles hurts
@@ze3bar As a piano player, i never had such problem 😅 the definition of skill issue
The only thing that logitech missed in their new G502X and G Pro X 2 Superlight was the switch. This optical switches are far behind the Razer's last version. They must have put mechanical switches instead.
u mean optical right
Razer's QC is far behind like everyone else so it kind of balances out. Both are overpriced in todays market with things like Lamzu, pulsar etc in the market. Shit even Glorious has had better QC lately than razer with their DA v3 pro and Glorious makes some good mice for the price, but we all know their QC woes over the years at least they are really good with their warranty unlike Razer who will refuse to replace a keyboard because I took the keycaps off to clean it and the stem on my number 2 key pulled off with the fkn keycap. Apparently cleaning your keyboard voids warranty according to Razer.
I recently got a Pwnage SB and while definitely expensive, I love the mouse. It's worth to me since it's practically a EC 2.5, super light and fantastic build quality. The click implementation is some of the best I've ever seen. Optical switches on mice are really just marketing, they serve no advantage over standard switches in terms of latency, consistency etc. They, in theory last longer but tbh that's not a big issue. The SB is my endgame mouse for now, 51 grams, great battery life when not on 2k which is unnoticeable in games at the cost of battery life. Stuff above 1k is really really diminishing returns, barely noticeable on high refresh panels in windows, unnoticeable in games besides when they cause performance issues like razer's 8k in some games and even 4k in a honestly pretty wide range of games. Plus SB click latency is crazy low, just as low as razers 8k optical mice, showing like I said optical serve no performance advantage over standard switches. They aren't like keyboards were you can set profiles for gaming with magnetic switches that switch from typing modes at high actuations to low actuation like .1mm.
@@Abadeez Nah, optical switches are not marketing, in fact optical switches could simplified the debounce algorithm, also traditional switches have both electrical life and mechanical life, but optical ones will never scrap for electrical failure
@@ivanborgia3384 I wasn't saying optical switches are marketing, the polling rate is, just like sensors now since they've been flawless for like a decade now. Optical switches are fine, they don't offer a performance increase like they do on keyboards however was my point. They don't reduce latency and they don't feel as consistent switch to switch. Nothing wrong with optical switches at all, but they aren't needed and they don't make mechanical switches in mice irrelevant like they and magnetic switches do in keyboards.
Opticals can still fail electrically, that's actually typically how they do fail before their actual mechanical life span. Optical are still mechanical btw, you still have to have practically everything a traditional switch does minus the contact that actuates the switch. Technically optical have more points of failure but tbh switches failing in general isn't really an issue and in theory Opticals can last longer but mechanicals can last just as long. Not putting down opticals but they aren't game changing or even needed at all especially compared to keyboards. They don't off anything better than a traditional switch and in fact they often times feel inconsistent on the same mouse.
Razer does well with their switches but even my DA v3 Pro feels slightly different between m1 and m2 not enough that it matters or notice it during game, but the QC on the v3 pro is dogshit so the switches are the least of the concern.
The only reason for me to cop GPX 2 , is literally the adjustable Lift off distance which i always wondered if Logitech was gonna fix it on their mice for people who loved higher LoD.
but, is it worth the update from GPX1?
@@HyperCS2 no.
I would say no unless u like higher lift off distance
The only upgrade that matters is the USBC charging
its not even that big of a deal
@@axrrrel exactly the entirety of the upgrade's to gpx 2 is "not a big deal"
@@ABOOM124 haha yeah they fcked it pretty up with the new gpx2
Not even cause the battery is like the razer one now it had longer life on the normal gpx
Tbh, now even newest Finalmouse looks like pretty good deal, especially in Europe, u have UltralightX 8k for 189 usd instead of 169 euro GPX2 2k, and UX is 2 times lighter mice.
Completely agree with the 4k or even 8k polling rate. It is the latest tech, regardless of people think they feel it or not. It should be there. The minor improvements they made doesn't warrant buying this thing imo. This was the best they could do after 3 years?
Also, why not release a gpro x superlight mini? That would have been a banger, and a lot of people would have bought it guarantee.
absolutely agree 👍
i completely disagree. why would they spend time trying to implement a higher polling rate when it has no noticeable benefits? whats the point? j to say its there? logitech doesn’t usually implement things like that until they are either perfected or actually make a difference. i dont think the minor improvements do warrant anyone that alr has a gpx to upgrade but for the average consumer ( most of which likely have wired) this mouse will b very appealing. i agree more sizes should b made but whos to say thats not otw? overall i just rly dont think not having 4 or 8k polling rate is even close to a big deal. imo shoulda used better switches and maybe nocked a couple gs off the weight.
I disagree. It annihilates your battery even at 2k and it is unnoticeable in games. You can notice even 2k in windows and doing some stuff on high refresh panels like 240hz but it's negligible and you don't notice while playing games unless it tanks performance in that game. Imo mice, especially "wireless" mice shouldn't be pushing passed 2k right now. 2k cuts your battery life in half or more from 1k and you don't notice it at all in games. Even if you do 'feel' smoother it won't provide any performance benefits since your body can't even come close to taking advantage of 1k let alone anything higher.
It's fine if you want to push it in wired mice but push it in wireless mice when 8k you're charging the damn thing in like 6 hours is crazy. You don't get a full day out of 4k and 2k you get about 2-3 days, obviously this varies some but it's about par for the course from my personal experience. Compare that to 1k where you can get like 1-2 weeks of battery life, not only prolonging the life of the mouse by limiting battery degradation but keeping you off the wire as much as possible for no real world benefit besides to say "haha im on 4k/8k plebs" except all it does is kill your wireless mouse faster and you'll get no performance benefit from it. Razer should work on making a mouse that doesn't have massive QC issues within a month of use before worrying about marketing with high polling rates. Polling rates are basically turning into mice sensors, where people bitch about it not being THE LATEST 3395 when the 3395 had issues with wireless mice and battery life but has no advantage over a 3370. Shit it has no advantage over a like 3330 except for a big DPI number! OH BOI! Same thing with polling rate, offers you nothing except killing your mouse's lifespan but OH BOI IT'S A BIGGER NUMBER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Take it from me who owns far too many mice and have used each of them for at least several months. I notice nothing in game going from 8k to 1k, do notice it around windows and some stuff like that but nothing that actually benefits me in real world usage. You sure as hell notice the battery life, degradation and when the game doesn't like it though.
I wish mice makers would do what keyboard do with their on the fly profiles, make it so the mouse will in game swaps to higher polling rate and out of games even alt tabbing you can drop it to w/e you want, like 500hz to prolong battery life when you don't need higher rates. I don't know why none of them have done this yet when keyboards have had it for actuation points for years now with the magnetic/optical switches. That makes more sense than the dumb push for higher polling rates just to use as marketing for suckers that think it does anything except kill their $150+ mouse faster for them.
@De4dSp0t I disagree. Both of my 4k mice feel smoother when running in 4k versus 1k. It could be placebo, but I don't think so.
Regardless, if you don't want to run it in 4k or even 2k, then run it in 1k then and save the battery. No one is forcing you to run it in 4k. All I am saying is there are people who want that higher polling rate, and it is becoming the standard now regardless of you being obviously bitter about it. At this day and age, and the fact all of these other manufacturers are releasing 4k polling rate at significantly less cost, there is no reason at all that it should not be available on a $150 flagship mouse from Logitech. This is just greed, plain and simple. Terrible release
@@mikerzisu9508 alright boys, letz disagree to disagree🤣
personally i find this new gpro update underwhelming for the price. idk about the polling rate. the weight reduction is so minimal, that i would rather purchase the older model for a cheaper price. or more likely an x2v2/x2h/atlantis mini/hati ace+. i was waiting for this release to see if anything grand comes out of it, but this is note like a mediocre attempt to keep it up to date. hot swap switches or better optical switch that is easily spamable. better side buttons or a least a weight reduction thats in the low 50s. i am sitting happily on my v2 pro and cant find a single reason to even check this out. the other mice i mentioned seem to offer better performance for the money.
The heavier clicking of the optical switches are a real turn off. Part of what I love about the GPX1 is the crispy light clicking. I also like the more tactile scroll wheel. Going into this I was automatically going to upgrade to the GPX2 since this mouse shape fits my hand/grip best. But, after watching this I may hold off. Who cares about USB C charging when you charge it once every couple weeks?
I'm a huge fan of the clicks of the Prime Wireless from Steelseries. I have both the Superlight 1 and Prime Wireless, and I switch between the two depending on what my muscle memory craves - lightness or satisfying clicks.
@@JeSuisBacon have you ever tried the endgame XM1? Clicks on those are equal to GPX1 I think.
@@sk8ervader No, and I would try it if I didn't have three mice on my desk that I swap between already haha.
honestly dont upgrade, its a waste of money, the super light 1 is already such a great mouse
you can spend your hard earned money in other more needed stuff
itsn ot like you are upgrading from the original gpro the a superlight where the weight difference is key and updated features
@@sh1nenkai258I was thinking of buying the GPX1, but now the GPX2 came out. Is it worth buying the GPX2?
It's nostalgic to me, I watched your video on the original one years ago and bought it. After my setup was done I stopped watching anything like this, here I am again wondering if the mouse I have that I have got a good upgrade.
Thanks for your honest review and good arguments given, don't stop what you're doing.
eh thanks a bunch for the continued support man!
I LELED at the Linus reference at :43.
Razer for their Keyboard short comings are the kings of Mice. This year its all Asus and Keychron Q's on the boards imo.
6:00 this! Thanks Techne for mentioning the fact that almost every mouse that comes out today sadly has no right side buttons - since Logitech left them out on their original superlight, called it "pro" and sold it for more although it had less. Im not a leftie but i use the right side buttons for secondary fire or zoom, so i have a box of old g pros and vipers because new mice don't help with shooters that require these buttons.
If there was buttons on the right side I wouldnt buy the mouse. They dont design these for the minority.
I think the intent was to make a product refresh for people who don't already have the first one and less about being an "upgrade." Even if they added buttons on the other side, I still think it wouldn't have been worth it from an upgrade standpoint. The addition of USB-C here is arguably the only real upgrade worthy of note. They clearly still want you to use the first one for a long time if you already have it.
Exactly. I can see how the value is just not there for somebody who already owns a superlight, or a lighter more recent wireless mouse. I, on the other hand, have a wired OG Razer Viper. I'm going to see if they have a superlight 2 at best buy today while running errands. I'm probably the target for this type of mouse.
I bought it cuz I didn't get the first one.
@@johnnymarbles6130same
Appreciate the honest, thoughtful and informative review, Techne!
I just built my first pc and was hoping on ordering today but wasn't't expecting it to get sold out in the first 3 hours. Anyone know how long it takes for Logitech to restock?
I'll make sure to forget to remove the sticky part at the bottom, thanks for the review!
Does it still wake up your PC from sleep upon EVEN THE SLIGHTEST movement? Even on wired?
Razer mouse, I had, used to do it only upon clicking.
Annoying as..
thanks man was tryna buy a new mouse so this helped alot
I found AOC GM530 for 14 euros with delivery. It was on back to school sale so I had to buy another one. Great mouse and for that price it's a bargain. I don't need to buy a mouse for the next 10 years lol.
The thing with the hgiher polling rate is you can see the difference even if you can't notice it. Do you have a 240hz monitor in your studio? If you do and you move your cursor in really fast circlular motion you will see the individual cursor frames right? On 1000hz the gaps between these singular images are not even, on higher hz they get more and more even. Now I don't know where the limit is maybe its at 2000hz, would be great if you could test that.
Main reason for me to get the GPX2 is the optical switches though and I still use the original GPW.
how does this compare to the Razer Deathadder V3 Pro in your opinion?
This is a good mouse but still can’t beat my razer v2 pro when it comes to the shape. Tried both and I would never go back. Great video as always.
Do you think viper v2 is the better mouse? What's your hand size? Would be very helpful, I'm trying to choose between these two mice.
@@rineverblack I wear a medium nitrile gloves for work as a reference. If you have a larger hand u might not like the v2.
Biggest difference is the USB-C port in my oppinion. For us travelling a lot, it does make sense to only have devices chargable through one type of cable.
LETS GO!! Remove that sticky tape off the bottom and help with that friction!😂 Quick tech tip for you. Looks like a solid upgrade. They should have released this upgrade like a year ago though.
"I'm going to touch on these feet right here."- Techne
I remember when I had a goatee in the late 90's. All the trends are coming back, I appreciate you living on the edge.
I miss the 90’s
@@TheTechne same boss. Though I suspect you don't mind the TH-cam income lol. Appreciate the vids brother.
what Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2 feet would u recommend? i have artisan hayate otsu mousepad for info :)
Haven’t seen you in awhile, facial hair is fire!!
Thanks for swinging by again
Ok sound of main buttons made me not wanting that mouse anymore. And wat is the tactility of main buttons, are they stiffer or not?
hi there.. should i need to buying g pro x superlight 2 for gaming in m2 max macbook?
want to play with him only at bluetooth mode.
Great review! I love my current Superlight, don't really see a reason to upgrade, at least not now. Looking forward to a review on the new G Pro X TKL... can't decide if it looks worth it or not.
Does it just connect only via wireless and not the USB-C like the keyboard TKL?
Gpx2 to be is obviously the better choice, why? Because i dont own a gpxs1 so might as well buy the 2nd, and thats definitly the case with gpxs2 it was meant as something to buy by people who dont already own the first one
At least you won't get double click issues on new optical switches which we tend to get on Omron switches. I had to change all my switches to Kailh switches on my current G Pro wireless. Good upgrade!
ive got a g pro wireless rn with glass skates , would it be a good upgrade to go to this?
I like the trolling towards LTT @ 0:38 LMAO
g703 super light would be more ideal as there is not much else they can do with gpro light lol a g703 with way less weight would be a brillian tmouse
Auctually there is more. You can change the lift of distance now. You can set X & Y Dpi separately and lastly. You can now set dpi by 1 increment too.
in vid
Haus did some testing and found that the 2k polling was just as good as non razer mice at 4k motion latency. However the click latency was worse than the og gpx while both were at 1k. I do have to add that he bought his copy off of someone so it isn't directly from Logitech.
Worse at 1k. Slightly better at 2k.
@@daniellozobia5386 oops, you're right
I have razer deathadder v3 should i buy this logitech superlight v2?
Which gaming headset u recommand for +/- 200$
give me a week ;)
@@TheTechne Sorry But I need it now, because my headset is broke
@@kubax119 He'll rush the video out just for you. 🤦♂
@@garethg8226 Sorry but i cant wait a week ;)
Have you heard of the keychron m2 mouse? And if so, will you review it? It looks interesting. Wireless ergo lightweight
Do you think I will have problems playing games like league of legends because of how heavy the clicks are? because you need to spam click alot to move through the map.
The heavy clicks drive me nuts just playing destiny and cod
Question what are you mouse settings in Destiny 2 ? sensitivity and ADS sensitivity ?
the new switches I love…might upgrade to the superlight 2 when my g pro wireless breaks (left mouse button is loose and worn out, I am expecting it to last another year at most since I’m pretty rough with my mice)
I think thats the way everyone should do...... Why upgrade if your current high end mouse is working fine
Picking it up myself, had a GPX since it launched 3 years ago. Finally, its started to spin out randomly from time to time, might as well get the new version with better polling and be thrilled.
Did you drop the mouse? It's possible cleaning the lens on the sensor would help.
@@daniellozobia5386 nope nothing like that, i have found a few other people whose GPX started to spin out after enough use as well, seems to just be an uncommon issue.
I hated the coating or plastic type of the black Superlight it leaves handprints and it has a greasy feeling. My brother has the red and it’s significantly less noticeable. Does the black still feel like a regular keycap instead of a PBT keycap in my opinion like it should? Just curious
You gotta clean your mouse. It might just be gunk. What I use to clean the mouse is a Clorox disinfecting wipe the fresh scent. Semi scratch the greasy areas to get a deep cleaning. The coating should go back to brand new and grippy.
Must be your hands. I use mine almost every day and no greasy feeling. It stills feel matte to touch.
There’s a lip on the feet? I need to know if this is true for other light speed 2s. Pls help
the sides are platicky or rubbery ???
"Clear as day" I LOVE the reference ahahahah
I cant decide which one to get it my birthday in a couple of weeks and I want to get a gpx but don't know which one to get?
Was there a hardware upgrade for the scroll wheel my gpro sg1 had that issue
I just literally bought the superlight a few months ago but backed from buying and thought i should wait for the Superlight 2. Now, i can say it's worth waiting now, im gonna order this one...
got mine love it went from a g903 to this amazing step up , make sure to turn off mouse acceleration in windows settings makes this mouse over shoot
It sucks the side buttons are still subpar. I love the shell material/coating of the Superlight but I have a strong preference for EC2 style shapes. If Zowie ever releases an EC1.5 (in terms of size I mean between the 2 and 1) with an updated shell material like the Superlight’s id be in heaven.
Polling rate is not about feeling it. Its more about the theoretical advantage. That said, to feel it you need at least 240hz, use 1600dpi+ and have a CPU that can handle the polling. Seen in other Benchmarks, the 2khz implementation however, seems to be way better than the 4khz implementation of most mice except razer.
Good points that a lot of people forget. Especially the DPI. A lot of people resist raising their DPI.
@@daniellozobia5386well bc generally speaking lower dpi higher sens is better (in competitive fps)
but whats the point of a theoretical advantage bro? i dont understand why everyone is griping ab this. even razers implementation of it isn’t perfect. id rather have perfect implementation of 2k hz than very good at 4k or 8k. maybe j me tho idk
Why is lower DPI and higher sens better than higher DPI and lower sens?@@cheddarbob9373
I mean razers 4k and 8k implementations are pretty much perfect@@cheddarbob9373
this man went from reviewing cows to a straight up MC members lol
I was honestly hoping for more from the refresh of it. I'll just keep my superlight going, might even snag a second one since i'm going to assume they stopped production of it. I was like "please have updated to usb-c." Honestly though I have a wireless base I throw it on and it's good when I get home from work. Slightly better battery life, and optical switches just aren't enough to push me to get the 2.
Bro be reasonable and stick to your superlight and when superlight 2 get to some dicounts get it as your replacement when your original superlight dies..... Dont buy in this 8k polling shit..... And they will come up whit some new fency number in future.....
I am currently getting a super light 2 delivered tomorrow (May 18th 2024) after my razer deathadder essential scroll wheel was jumping. I will come back once I get it.
Great review brother :)
Thanks a bunch man
The new clicks will help with the double click issue the superlight 1 has. They went with 2k polling rate for the battery life. You will only see a difference on 4k polling rate with a 240hz or higher monitor and a good CPU, it does use power from your CPU.
And also 1% of ppl on earth can mybe feel difference from 2k to 4k and mybe 5% from 1k to 2k so yea
What do you think i should buy? 1 or 2
1
2
Does it support Bluetooth
Which one should be used between optical only and hybrid ?
Hybrid just saves battery
Are there any differences in accuracy and efficiency?
If i have a g502 hero should i buy gpx 1 or 2?
Honestly, look elsewhere since gpx 1 and 2 are the same shape and it's not ergonomic as 502. Pulsar Pulsar Xlite v3 is coming out soon, maybe Zowie EC3-CW or DeathAdder V3 (similar weight to superlight)
can i connect it to a mac without the dongle?
I hate g pro shape
The perfect shape of me is razer naga pro but i hope to have another mouse like naga pro what is ur recommended please ❤
The GPX2 switches have lightened up over time. i find myself going back to the GPX2 over other mice I own.
I have OG Superlight Pro, the new Pro 2 and Asus Harpe Ace. After about 3 weeks of usage, Asus wins in all but one category - battery. Asus holds up maybe 5 days at best, thats not amazing. Both Logitech mouse are superior. But other than that, better clicks, much much better side buttons, much better PTFE slides, wheel is about on par. Shape is kinda better on Asus, but not as big. I just cant get of the feeling, the Pro 2 is somewhat unfinised. Side buttons are bad (mine even clicks, but its doing nothing, i have to presss it hard), wheel is weak, those PTFE slides are almost non-existent...its pretty meh in my oppinion, not worth its money.
Maybe because of the lighting on the Harpe? Try turning off the lighting it should last much longer
i had the og x superlight but the only problem i had was that it was to big for my baby hands so i got a lamzu mini so i wanted to know is the new superlight 2 smaller than the og one?
Exact same size and shape. 5 grams lighter.
@@J_CLEM10thank you
my conclusion: if you already use the "normal" g pro x superlight - upgrate isnt worth.
Damn I just wanted a g703 superlight man 😕😕😕
That will be a great day!
I'll probably get it for Xmas. It's about time I join the Superlight train.
I’ll keep using my limited edition yellow GPX … but can you please please review the new Corsair Scimitar Wireless mouse?
thank you so much for your interest, but I'm going to be passing that one up, as I don't play enough games that will benefit from it to really use/test it
Techne what’s your daily gaming mouse?
Razer DA V3 Wired
@@TheTechne thanks for the answer
i love how u threw that shade towards LTT hhahaha
just a tech tip
Lamzu THORN or Logitech G Pro X Superlight 2?????
Two very different shapes
Techne. I am unsure what monitor you're using but Boardzy claims that on 360hz and of course above you can notice a jump from 1000 to 4000 hz mice
superlight 1.5, will stick to final mouse. Loved superlight though
Man, what is going on with tech lately? Everything is just about selling.
Literally same mouse but internal changes and type C port being probably the most meaningful change lol
They could try anything different? Like, put back the optional extra side buttons or something.
Waited 1 year to buy a 14th gen cpu and superlight 2 and was hyped constantly thinking about it and this is what I get lol
This is a fantastic review
The only good thing about the new G PRO X SUPERLIGHT “2” is that the G PRO X SUPERLIGHT will be on sale/cheaper.
I have the G Pro X Superliight with superglide glass skates on the powermat so charging and battery life arent an issue. I did purchase it in red and then changed pcs and built a white one, so now i kinda want a white one.. may consider this one.. lol
Love the sticky tape Jab lol if you really watch tech reviews then you know what he was poking at!
Side buttons is the only reason i dropped my old Pro X superlight for a Razer Deathadder V3 Pro since the side buttons gave out on my old Superlight. The side buttons on the razer are miles ahead and firmer - no mush !!! Its really unfortunate the new side buttons are not much better than the original superlight. Looks like im sticking to my Deathadder V3 pro for now.
wait so you get longer battery life playing in 2k? 4:04
G703x superlight..... when logitech??😢
Thanks Technie. ❤❤
What I don’t understand is why Optical switches are now suddenly the go-to trend?
You can make a comparison of which company has the better “sounding” optical switch but at the end of the day it’s a much louder and more often stiff feeling switch compared to a mechanical switch like a Pink shell blue dot or Omron switch.
I sometimes use the x y axis dpi because I game and work on my ultra wide monitor. So I have a higher horizontal dpi. Just the usb c alone would be a nice upgrade over my gpx
how does this work
I totally disagree with the final thoughts here. It's like everybody in the comments is talking like all the reviewers here on TH-cam. Have all actually compared the 2 really properly?! The improvement in the sensor is really noticeable to me, and a very worthy upgrade from the Superlight 1! Make sure you have the settings right to enjoy the 2000hz goodness and away you go. It's the same form factor with a much better sensor then the v1, trust me. And all the fuss about the clicks, man, I don't get it at all. It's like there has to be something people can complain about to get the views and the likes. I start to distrust more and more reviewers these days.
Thank you so much for this comment, I appreciate it!
What’s your go to: Hunter, warlock or titan? Warlock with solar subclass for me: those nades and the well are juicy
Titan in D1 warlock in D2
I liked the part where you said the Deathadder v3 Pro was 8k polling lol
V3 wired is 8khz polling, wireless is 4khz, but both mice are ten billion times better than this waste of a launch.
you should do splitscreen gameplay and review so we can get the full subway surfer experience
I definitely feel 4k on my viper v2 pro. Cause it makes my FPS in CSGO drop to below 150!
hold up, so your saying you get a fps drop when using 4k?
@@TheTechne Yes. Ryzen 5 3600 with a 5700XT. There is no noticeable performance drop with 4k in CS2
CSGO is VERY dependent on cpu clock speed and I think any application that puts even the smallest strain causes the fps drop. When I have a TH-cam video playing while playing CSGO my fps drops just like yours. 5800X3D/6950XT
I think it depends. Like I play to win 100% of the time in games I play at low settings to get max frames, this is made for me. But for 99% of consumers, this is a bit steep
coming from a red dragon s101-3 mouse to a glorious model o wireless back to the red dragon bc the model o broke, i think it’s definitely an upgrade and was worth it
still no braded kabel?
on 1khz this is shit has more latency than the original... i was waiting for this to see if the dav3 pro is still the best option, and still the dav3 pro or the viper v2 is better by miles
I literally spent 1 hour trying to put my words in a comment on different creators. I think since the gpx is now officially a buget mouse and not a high end mouse this thing is just like 5% faster or what and replaces a buget mouse, wow
logitech should have done something more with the side buttons, their way to mushy and just awful. that would have been the best thing for them to do in order to make it worth
I diy with aluminum tape (7 layers each) and they’re more pronounced
Seems too small of an upgrade for such a pricey mouse.
Still just like iPhones, Pros would definitely get this over many others. They're good all rounder for everybody.
Was really interested in this from how many pros are using superlights
They are using it because they are sponsored.
^
don't buy gear off what pros use, same as in physical sports. They are sponsored
@@Ejziponken1bro ur living in 2013, no company is forcing the players to use their mice nowadays, it can literally kill their performance