Apple Studio Display VS Thunderbolt Display!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- I compare Apple's last-generation 27" Thunderbolt Display to the ALL NEW 2022 Studio Display! Let's see what a difference time has made in Apple's first-party monitors!
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I still have two Thunderbolt displays on my desk right now and watching this video on one of them! They are fantastic displays, even to this day!
Same here buddy !! daisy chain bouth , and they will last for 10 years more , hihihhihiihihih
Same here, I’m using Daisy chain two TB display and M1 Pro , it’s still amazing high quality and USB hubs
Same here Ive been using 2 ThunderBolt Displays for 10 years! I still chuckle to myself when in Teams meetings and they are there with their headsets on ;-)
I have about 9 thunderbolt displays a local ad agency was off loading for $250.00 per. They are still great! (And average one the used market for $250.)
Do they make a lot of noise ?
I bought one of these in mint condition last year. It’s still great. I paid 150 for it.
I know of many people who still use the Thunderbolt, myself included. I was surprised more people weren’t making videos featuring this comparison as it’s probably more relevant to more of the demographic that’d buy it than most comparisons. First one I’ve seen.
The studio display’s main use is for content creation, the Cinema Display cannot compete which is why there haven’t been any comparisons
@@TheNpcNoob Ya, that’s mostly an age thing. The Studio is the current successor to the Thunderbolt Display and a comparison is good for those that have been holding out so they know what they’d be getting if they upgraded. Hope that makes sense.
@@justinmayfield6579 kinda makes sense, but let’s be honest the people still using the older display have no need to upgrade other than to burn money.
I still love my 2 Thunderbolt Displays and use them every day.
Yeah, many of us still love Thunderbolt displays
You can buy two thunderbolt displays used and have a dual apple monitor setup for less than 1/3 the price of a single studio display.
This is what I did, and I loooveee it
I’ve got about 6 of them and I’m just about a die hard fan, sometimes I see them for less than $150 they’re a steal
I kinda did that but I got the 24 Cinema Display and I love it
I just bought a Thunderbolt Display used for $200. I bought an adapter and use it with a Mac mini M1. Works really well, and without a better monitor sitting right next to it, it’s difficult to tell how old it is, because performance is still decent especially for 200
what adapter is needed? I want to acquire a used one, but I want to test it and buy the proper adapter
@@elfopoeta Apple Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 Adapter
I was thinking of doing this exact thing. I have one for sale near me for $120 but it has a small chip in the screen.
@@dmitryclarke2127 You can replace the display glass, although it is about 90 dollars.
Just bought a Mac Pro 2013 12-core with 64 GB RAM and it came with a Thunderbolt Display for $460. Best purchase I’ve made in a long time. I know the 2013 is pretty old now, but it benchmarks at over 7,000 multi core in Geekbench. That’s on par with an M1 machine for about half the price, plus a Thunderbolt Display, and it works beautifully.
I had triple thunderbolt display that is almost 8 years old now and they still work!!! i just had to buy the thunderbolt to USB C adapter
I have one Thunderbolt display at work and one at home, both of which I use with my M1 MacBook Pro. Fantastic displays and you can get them used for a really good price.
Hi, how did you manage to connect the display to your m1 machine?
@@sl3vin_ maybe needs a dongle? Idk I would like to know as well
I still use the Thunderbolt Display and have been waiting for an apple replacement. I just ordered the studio display with the nano glass and the height adjustable stand, so this comparison was super helpful. Thanks!
How is it?
@@adam06 Still waiting for delivery from Apple. I guess because of my configuration my shipment has been delayed unit then end of the month, or early July.
@@exploringcolorado Wow
@@exploringcolorado Any update now? lol Need a little convincing to spend that much cash
@@BobStranahan Apologies for the delayed response. I love the new monitor and feel it was totally worth the expense for my situation. I has pretty serious glare from a nearby widow and the nano glass has pretty much eliminated that problem. And the adjustable height stand has been great. I find myself making height adjustments more often then I thought I would. I would order the exact same configuration again if I had to.
I let go of mine in winter 2018. I missed it so much. Today, I am very happy this new Studio Display is introduced. I will pick one up with height adjustable stand.
my job requires to check my designs in a non-retina screen to see how users with old computers would see it, the Thunderbolt monitor let’s me see every single pixel and I can immediately tell when something is off. I can’t fit more than one monitor on my desk, so I’m keeping my Thunderbolt for as long as I can.
Thank you for making this comparison video! Still using a few of these at home and work. Recently upgraded to Studio and enjoying it so far. Worth it for me.
I appreciate the time travel and comparison! I actually saw a Thunderbolt Display at a Goodwill once...they wanted $350 for it.
In my opinion, the Studio display is a next-generation Thunderbolt display. They both have mics, cameras, a 27" display, and a lot more in common.
An informative, focused and enthusiastic video. Great job.
Like quite a few people here, I watched this video on a Thunderbolt Display. :D
I acquired my Thunderbolt Display on eBay a few days ago for about $82, which is a phenomenal deal. The display looks and sounds amazing, it works flawlessly with my Mac Studio through a Thunderbolt 3-to-2 adapter, and I love how it has a FireWire 800 port on the back.
Just bought a thunderbolt display for $100 and it still looks great to this day. Have another one on the way for a dual monitor editing setup
IMO this would’ve been an impressive release seven years ago. Honestly just seems like they’re trying to dump overstock of old, unloved parts that are laying around in 5k iMac panels and old iPhone chips. It’s a downgrade in many ways apart from the panel itself, and it’s actually not as hard as you might think to upgrade the Thunderbolt Display with a 5k iMac panel. Hell for the price you could just get a 5k iMac and get a bonus computer with your display purchase
How much does a 5k iMac panel go for? Is it really the same size as the Thunderbolt Display?
@@dmitryclarke2127 2-300$ depending on sourcing, and they're close enough that a decent number of people have posted build guides for them online in quite a few places. That's not the only cost associated of course, and it's not something I'd recommend to someone who isn't tech savvy, but it's certainly doable, and definitely for far less than they're charging for the studio. Many designs even preserve the microphone, speakers, USBs and such. The only non-salvageable bit is the original charger, which typically goes unused since magsafe 1 has been deprecated for a great many years now.
Great post. I am a Thunderbolt Display user as of today (my first), matching it with my 2013 Retina Display MacBook Pro... Absolutely love it!
The Thunderbolt didn't feel so expensive at $1k in 2011 compared to its predecessor (A1083 Apple Cinema HD of 2004, I got the 2006 update ) at $3k The 20" Cinema barely cost 1k. Both beautiful for their times & I am still using mine. The 30" Cinema only had 400 cd/m2 but looks amazing bright to the Thunderbolt side by side. Pretty bright if too close but looks great from across the room.
Yeah Apple was always a little more expensive but never more in comparison for what you got., and it was intended to last!
@slob5041 elaborately I'm still using them. Although as of few weeks ago my 30" Apple Cunema had a hiccup waking up. I may been a multi display issue as the 2nd came on 1st.
But ya, who's using 18yo displays cause they like them & still look good?
If you plan to build a dual monitor setup with old Thunderbolt displays, you should take into account that the devices almost all have different brightness levels due to their age. Over the last few years I've had about 7 Thunderbolt displays and the brightness has been between 3,900 (almost yellow image) and 5,900 (pretty good white) lux. Apparently the displays burn out over the years depending on how heavily they're used. I measured 6,500 lux during the iMac 5K DIY monitor conversion.
I would grab a Thunderbolt Display because it is cheaper and and still looks good. The Studio display is stupid expensive. I actually would pick up the Samsung M8 32”. It looks like the new iMac’s and has a 1080 HD camera. It is very nice.
Pro Tip: save money on nano-texture by purchasing some curtains or flicking off the light switch
I really like the video but I don’t understand why you didn’t do a side by side of how the screens display that’s the most important thing.
Great video and review.
I got a Thunderbolt Display last year and I love it best monitor I’ve owned and tbh if I could afford the studio I would have that but the Thunderbolt is still amazing for what it is
YES, have been waiting for someone to compare the two... thanks so much for doing this!
I still use my 8 years old Apple Thunderbolt Display and It's still like new except the built-in Thunderbolt cable has been damaged, so I use a detachable Thunderbolt 2 display!
I bought a used Thunderbolt Display about 3 months ago. Well before I knew the new Studio display was coming out. Doesn’t matter. I love my Thunderbolt Display. I’m trying to decide if I want to buy a second. Yes, there are some differences. But… just not enough for me to spend that kind of money. Especially when I think he old Thunderbolt Display is as nice as it is. Although… that octopus cord is negative.
I still have an "LED Cinema Display" from 2010 (a year before the "Thunderbolt Display") as my main daily driver, and I'm hoping to upgrade to a Studio Display, so I very much appreciate you making this video :)
Thunderbolt user here. Still works great 👍
I've been waiting for someone to do this comparison. Thank you!!!
The Old daisy chains to an extra monitor or what not, while the new won’t?
Honestly, the 27' thunberbolt display is still good in 2024. Recently got a 2020 m1 air to test out, before ordering an almost maxed out 16" M3MPB, to replace my maxed out 27" 5k 2017 iMac. Got one for $100 and it's just as good when I had two in 2017-2019. Never knew a studio display came out vs knowing the xdr one. I'll keep the thunderbolt until it goes out or I say fkit/ find a good deal on the studio
I found 3rd party MagSafe2 to USB-C PD for 2019 MacBook Pro & can charge while using. There's currently USB-C PD to MagSafe3 so we have options I'm sure coming.
I'm still using a lightning and a mini-displayport version. Both still awesome! Camera's in them are great too.
No mention of the weight and removable power cable. The Thunderbolt display was an ABSOLUTE UNIT at ~30lbs.
Apple needs to evolve into lower priced devices. As much as I love the look of the new Studio Displays, price wise (particularly in AUD), it's almost impossible to justify.
I like the brick background, is that real or is it some kind of overlay? Thx
The Studio Display is what I’ve been waiting for. The main thing I do is photo editing, and after using a 27-inch iMac with Retina display that was replaced with a 14-inch MacBook Pro with an M1 Max CPU, needed a display. I have no interest in high refresh rates (I’m not a gamer) or Pro Motion. I do, however, need a 5K display, and this monitor gives me that. Expensive? Perhaps. The best things in life tend not to be cheap…
the colors are way off on the studio. as a photogrpaher i would stick with the old one for sure. unless skin tones dont matter to you that is.
@@saschakraemer6793 The colors are way off? I don't find this to be the case at all. Calibrating my Studio display showed that it required just the tiniest amount of adjustment. By "the old one" I guess you mean the original Thunderbolt 27" display; I cannot take that comment seriously. For photography work, I find the Retina resolution of the Studio Display simply indispensable. If you have problems with color, you may have a faulty unit-if you actually have a Studio Display.
@@saschakraemer6793colours way off? That is incorrect.
my thunderbolt display is still holding up amazingly
I work from home, so I have my home setup (Apple) on one side, with a 27" Thunderbolt Display, and my work setup on the other side (Windows) connected to a 27" Cinema Display. I love it! I was looking for videos to see if there was any reason to upgrade, if I upgrade my Apple device, and I don't see any compelling reason to do so! Especially at the cost of the new Studio Display!
Portland, JAMAICA in The Building !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Saying that the studio display uses just thunderbolt is misleading I also does USB C DP alt mode without too. No thunderbolt needed.
Will the Thunderbolt work with a 2023 MacBook M3 Pro?
Waiting for the answer
ONE WORD- P R I C E ! Even though these things are out are available so yeah
I just watched this on my 30" Apple Cinema Display. I've thought about getting the 27" Studio Display, but I'd rather get something that's 32". I wish they had a 5K display at that size, as I'd like to scale to 1440p natively.
why didn't they made a 30" .. in my case 30" cinema it is(over 27 thunderbolt one)
I have an old Thunderbolt Display in great shape and I am considering whether to continue using it. Will it connect to a Macbook Pro M1 max? Also, can it be color calibrated? I will be doing mostly photo editing on it and I am convinced a 2K monitor is what I want to use.
Obviously better and a great display, but the price of that studio display is OUTRAGEOUS imo
I still use apple thunderbold display (Legacy one), its fun to see the upgrades and comparison with new one.
Still using my Thunderbolt display in 2024.
You can get the old display used and Much cheaper. A Good new studio displays BUT too expensive!
Can I connect the old one to my windows PC?? Please let me know!
And what would be interesting to say what was the price of the Thinderbolt display. It wasn’t cheap at all and I don’t think, that so many people have to it so many hates like to the Studio display. I think the same as you, this is perfect display made for my Mac. I have already ordered two pieces for my new Mac Studio.
Apple won't sell millions of the new Studio Display...but they did their research and due diligence and saw the market for it....simple
How connect the Thunderbolt Display to a MacBook m1?
Still, the old Cinema and Thunderbolt Displays had a detachable power cable and stand. Go figure…
Still detachable on the new one, just not by your everyday person. Can still be replaced.
Can I connect the Studio Display > Thunderbolt Display using an USBC-C dongle?
I bought a 2015 like-new in the box Thunderbolt Display just recently. Would have liked a Studio Display, and the TBD was a compromise for price, but am very happy so far. The TBD display is a beautiful APPLE design, and I was surprised how good photography and videos look on it. Wish it was brighter, and text was sharper, but for the price of these older displays I really can’t complain.
I just bought a TBD and in the process of figuring out what to do with it, most likely get an M1 Mac Mini, Play around with i usitng it as a second monitor with my iMac. I noticed right away it wasn't quite as bright as my retina iMac so I downloaded an app, can't remember the name of it right off hand but I was able to use the app to increase the brightness on the TBD and it worked wonderfully.
@@artistnyc123 Any chance you can find the name of that brightness app? I know there is one for the new MBP, but not sure it works for an external display. Thanks!
@@Hektormydog Brightness Slider
@@artistnyc123 Found it in apps, haven't tried it yet, but isn't this just an brightness adjustment app? and not an actual increase in brightness more than the high setting in Mac OS? Will find out. There is an app that increase brightness beyond normal, but only with the newer XDR displays.
Has anyone been able to use a usb c dock to power a Mac and connect to the display with the Thunderbolt Display using a single cable? I really want a couple of them as they are so cheap now, problem is I’m going to be using windows laptops too so want an all in one solution
Why your connector of the Thunderbolt cable looks shorter than other reviewers’
Have you experience flickering error when connect Apple Thunderbolt Dispplay to M1 Mac? I have read about that error. Is it fixed in last updates?
Damn, I just thought what if Apple didn't have complete clowns instead of designers and released a good looking display... and then I remembered they had this model back in the day.
What about the text on the nano screen???
It's probably more accurate to say that the Studio Display has 4 times the resolution of the Thunderbolt Display, rather than saying it "doubled that" because the resolution is doubled both horizontally and vertically, which yields 4 times the number of pixels, and therefore 4 times as much detail.
twice as much detail, PPI count has doubled NOT quadrupled, you’re right on the resolution front though.
Awesome video, but fix 7:03, really kills the great video you had going.
I still use the Thunderbolt Display.
How’s video colour grading with the nano texture?
Thunderbolt is 27" 1440P which is 108 PPI. Macs work much better with 110 or 220 (retina) ppi. So 3 best options are 1440p 27" , 34" 3440x1440p, and 5k 27". Unless money is no object, there is little to no reason to upgrade to a $1,600 studio in 2023. And picking up a Thunderbolt off facebook in 2023 for $100-$200 is great option vs $200 monitor for productivity use (non gamers).
I love it I like thunderbolt better
7:00 lmao
Do an iPhone 13 Pro and a Commodore 64 now!
Ha, I'm yet to upgrade to the Thunderbolt Display...
Thunderbolt monitor is a Sherman tank that refuses to quit ...mine is well over 8 yrs old and running like a top ...Apple should hope the new display is half as good as the oldie ....Time will tell
Very cool
Can't say this isn't fair, looks like an apples to apples comparison
If the thunderbolt cable on the older display is in bad condition, are you able to connect to the monitor using a thunderbolt cable from a Mac Air/Pro to the thunderbolt port at the back of the monitor? Will you get an image this way?
Yes. Been there and works flawlessly. Use a a-quality Apple cable!
@@rikgevers Yep got the official cable and works perfectly.
Nice vid!
My 2013 15" MBP finally broke (screen) and I just upgraded to a 16" MBP M1 Pro. I'm using it right now with my 27" Thunderbolt Display and loving it, thanks in huge part to the Thunderbolt 2 port that Thunderbolt 3/4 is backwards compatible with. Good thing because those USB 2.0 ports are almost useless, and FW800 is also an extinct dinosaur.
My new MBP has 1 TB of storage. I do photography, so my lightroom catalog is kept in an OWC Thunderbay 4 Mini with 4x 1 TB 2.5" SSDs in a RAID 0 configuration. That in turn is backed up to an OWC Thunderbay 4 with full size HDDs. Both are daisy-chained off the Thunderbolt Display.
I have a WD 4 TB external HDD attached to the back of the display for Time Machine backups. Of course, the first backup I had to directly attach the drive to the MBP, otherwise it would have taken days/weeks to do it over USB 2.0. I also have a 1 TB NVMe SSD in an enclosure for backups as well that I can bring with me when I travel and that gets updated every few days whenever I connect it to the MBP. Finally, I have a 3rd Time Machine backup in my Apple Time Capsule. I upgraded the 500GB drive to 2 TB.
To power the MBP, I'm actually using a MagSafe 1/2 to USB-C adapter I got on Amazon. It only provides 45 watts, I've seen another similar one that does 60 watts. Either way, the M1 Pro sips power so the 45 watts is plenty enough to keep it charged. I really wish someone comes out with a MagSafe 1/2 to MagSafe 3 adapter sooner than later so I can use MagSafe and regain a USB-C port.
Such an awesome review
My only regret about the Studio Display was not putting in my order on Day 1. I waited until Day 5, and now waiting more than a month for this thing to ship and deliver. LoL
How do you like it?
Great video! But I want to know what brand is that water bottle?
this will look great next to my Apple Cinema display 30 inch
one is outdated and the new one is overpriced
Studio Display sits too high - and the variable height option has NO option to lower the height - it only goes upwards. Design fail. 60Hz refresh rate is too slow. And the hole in the stand is visible from the front. No Thunderbolt 4?
The VESA mount option solves the height problem.
@@whitemailprivilege2830 How? What do you propose to connect it to? Most VESA mounts are designed to be fixed to a wall. So now you have to find a stand that goes down (or of normal height) that does not mach the monitor, just to be able to change the height downwards? Ridiculous.
@@robsmith545 you could connect it to a standard vesa monitor arm, please google them if you’re not familiar with those, really handy to place this or any other monitor at a much lower height than the standard option.
I have a studio display hooked up to my MacBook Pro 16”. Looking for a second cheaper monitor. Should I buy a refurbished Thunderbolt Display?
Maybe our try the ASUS 360
I would buy a newer lg ultrawide
@@sangpeters why would he try that? It’s 1080p and only supports 16.7 million colors.
Yeah I bought one for 150 pounds. It’s an excellent monitor for the price. Better than other monitors at that price point
hmm $60 vs 1600$ yeah. 60 lol
The bezels look almost as chunky on these two monitors lol
I’ve been waiting for a video like this! When they released the Studio Display I immediately thought of the Thunderbolt, because they’re the same thing. It’s like going from pre-retina iMac to Retina 5K iMac.
I use my Thunderbolt as a secondary display to my ‘20 5K iMac. For 1440p and it’s age it’s proving it’s worth all these years later.
Thanks, this is actually a GREAT comparison. I had the Thunderbolt Display. I loved it, though even at that time I wished it had a bit more resolution. And I was really curious to hear about how they compared! I think I want the new Studio display even more now….
Why Apple made the stand situation so complicated?
Yes agree on that one
I 'm still using 2 30inch ACD from way back when Apple redefined BIG , they still work and no dead pixels clearly built to last was part of their DNA when the pied piper was at the help .
I've been hoping someone would make this video, thank you. I'm currently using a Thunderbolt Display with my M1 Mac Mini and love it. After seeing your video I think I can wait a little longer for the new Studio display but only a little, I am certain now that it will be this display's replacement.
Hey what adapter are you using??😀
@@jeffreyestanislao Apple's Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C) to Thunderbolt 2 adapter. Works flawlessly.
I can not Connect my brand new MacBook Pro M2 to my Thunderbolt Display. I am usino The Apple adapter Thunderbolt 2 to 3 and it dose not work. Can you help me please???
@@juanadte6535 are you using the included monitor cable? I found that with my monitor the monitor cable was starting to go (a common problem apparently) so I went with an Apple Thunderbolt 2 cable to the monitor and then the adapter plugging it in to the USB C. Hope this helps. Feel free to let me know how/if it works.
@@squibblespawpaw7124 Yes, I’m trying to connect through the monitor cable. If you use a second thunderbolt 2 cable, where do you plug it, in one of the Teo Thunderbolt 2 ports located in the back of the monitor?
Still rocking two of these thunderbolt displays 🤙🏾.
Andrew, coincidentally I have on the right side of my desk the new Studio Display connected to my MacBook Pro 14 and on the left the older Apple A1316 Cinema 27 Display as it can connect to PC's too and it's connected my work PC laptop. I tested the Studio Display to my work PC which has a USB-C connection and everything works on the monitor except for adjusting brightness of course. So soon, I will hand the the old faithful Cinema Display to the kids and get another Studio Display for a matching set up. I hope though they give us a software or Firmware update to improve the camera as they are lacking a little right now and I am still having to use my Logitech Brio Webcam. You can't go wrong with Apple Display's for aesthetics and built quality, I love them and I will never buy any other brand. The speakers on the Studio Display have to be best on the market in any monitor out there. Maybe Apple needs to get in the pro speaker business.
just buy LG UltraFine for 650 and go frick apple out)
For the pricepoint of the Studio Display (as nice of a monitor it is) it's absolutely ridiculous it doesn't have at least 90Hz-120Hz ProMotion! It should also be an LPTO panel so it can do variable refresh rates just like the iPhones.
You’re avoiding flaming by saying it’s just for fun but not everyone I mean most people can’t afford to shell out thousands for a new one. The OG is good for the working man not the rich man I guess is what you’re saying
The old Thunderbolt Display is a solution for those wanting the old FireWire connection.