1800s Graveyard with Strange Damage and Erosion
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The tree ones are Woodmen of America, a fraternal organization that became Modern Woodman of America. They were a group that provided benefits for widows and children of Lumberjacks. Modern Woodman of America is still in business as an insurance company.
Oh Matt. I love your explores. Your monologue at the end almost brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for your thoughtfulness, and your gentle patriotism towards these veterans'... and their final resting places.
Thank you!! That really means a lot!
Looks like the hill is slumping. The hill is shifting.
Scary woods the flood, but the cemetery, very nice old graves I love the sound of the train .as always helpful please.
Thank you very much 🙏 😊 👍
Thank you for another amazing cemetery video. I'm really enjoying them. Lots of elaborate stones and flowers that I enjoyed seeing. B.T.W. thoses little blue flowers are " blue scilla " they're planted by a bulb and they spread like wildfire. ( 3 yrs. of horticulture in school. ) Have a great week and stay safe, Matt.
Debbie, so true I have them all over my lawn in spring...so beautiful...I guess the previous owner planted them and now after 17 years( since we bought the house) they continue to spread.
Great video.Your very good at reading the ground.Strange abut the movement of those stones.Good observation.
Love those tree stones very cool 😎 always love it awesome work matt
You are such a kind soul and hopefully other sites that repair cemetaries will see your video. Thank you and great work.
The train horns in the background created a nice affect.
Hi Matt I do in joy your videos I just have to say that I don’t think 🤔 that I have ever seen a wood men of the world marker here in the Pacific Northwest we I live karen
I love the Bachman headstone! It made me curious as to why they both died in 1927. I was able to locate both of their death certificates online and they both died from natural causes it appears. Both were born in France. Thanks for sharing this history with us Matt 🙂
I noticed that also, and that he was 14 years older than she was... The carving in that stone, looks like it was done today.
My grandparents passed away 3 months apart. They were the same age. I think in some cases the remaining spouse just kind of gives up.
Amy Lasher No clue how old the Bachmans were. But often couples die close together. Older folks usually
Just a thought.
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Great video. Felt like I was right there with you. I'm going out to buy some "blue bells". Just beautiful. You caught the historic significance and geography of this cemetery in a wonderful way! Thumbs up always...SGG.
I have seen the stones be moved off their bases by the big riding mowers. It happens a lot.
I love these videos thank you
Really loved what you said at the end. They were all heroes of the community and the country. Sad that we don’t honor their memory by maintaining their final resting place...even if we are not connected to their family line...
Thanks for all the great videos. One thing comes to mind when asking the question "what is moving these stones" . This may have already been stated , I haven t read all the comments. I think it is ice. Water becomes trapped between the two stones and freezes. When the begin to thaw , they can be moved quiet easily , given the remaining ice and water mixture , a strong gust of wind could move the easily under the right conditions. Thanks again for all your work !
That makes a lot of sense, thanks Jimmy!
High ground has shorter grass and then slopes down to where you can see soil movement right along the tree line in sections. Lawn maintenance crews compact the soil causing it to allow even more run off and that's how the fence line/treeline is separated from the high ground. Difference in ground levels and how both areas are maintained. Solution: terracing and/or retaining walls. Last but not least, diligent tree and shrub pruning and care, thinning out the overcrowding from saplings,etc. Because i say; just as the headstones erode away, so do the grounds (and surrounding grounds) as well. People don't tend the lands as much as needed. Husbandry ( properly tending to the "needs of the land and trees) has gone out of style I guess. I also agree with the person who said to pick up the trash at these gravesites (even fallen brush if possible) not mattering who the stone or marker area belongs to. Matt thanks for the videos because they show so many things about life and death that we don't seem to have the time to see anymore. Great job always 539 !
Awesome video Matt, I was wondering do you ever get creeped out doing these ? 😳. I absolutely love how you take such care with your videos
539 Productions thanks Matt for sharing with me another video about a old graveyard 1800s Graveyard with Strange Damage and Erosion it really sad to see that no one cares enough to do some work in this old graveyard to fix the Erosion problems that these grave will be safe from getting worse. and thanks again Matt for this video I really enjoyed it and God Bless you my friend and I can't wait to see your next videos on both channels and thanks again.
I hear this all the time . Do you have the hundreds or thousands of dollars to make repairs.
What a beautiful cemetery. I love how you film. It really is too bad the cemeteries aren’t maintained. Especially the headstones. Love your work💖💖
Maybe some of the Grave stones were move in different position due to long times years, the foundation that was erected was either weak or it might be flooded
Those stones may get bumped by the lawn mowing equipment. If they are using large riding mowers they could easily bump them without realizing it.
Your right I seen it happen when I worked for a cemetery that's why a lot of places are going to inground headstones because its easier to mow the grass.
I always get so excited when I see a new video from y'all! Ty
Great video.. interesting! thanks 👍♥️
Hi Matt, If you look up Hardin Cemetery in Hardin,Missouri they had the worst cemetery flood in history back in the 1990's when the levy block and all my belated family was washed away. I was in shock when I saw the damage.
Im so sorry you had to experience that. As a member of the order of the good death, im so sorry this happened. No one deserves that. Living or dead. This is heartbreaking. Wish you and yours all the best from me and mine. And on behalf of the order we send our love for your lost family. Because we believe just because someone passed doesn't mean they are any less than what they were when they were living. They still deserve our love and respect
I have over time. Noticed stones move, and because water gets under the stone lift and move them with the greatest of ease. ( One side warms so the whole mess slides slowly that way( all it takes is time) ice and hydrolics do the honors.
Awesome man! Great video!
Love your adventures and the old cemetery.
Another excellent video Matt! Your video's are always so interesting! Thanks for sharing!
Water underneath stones freezes and lifts it ever so slightly. depending on pitch of the base stone, if level, the stone will slide to the sun warmed side. Process on a pitched base stone will often cause the stone to tip. Any thoughts?
Omg brilliant Michael, why didn't I think of that lol. x
Exactly, and in combination with vibrations from train traffic and road traffic....
I just had to have the base of a family marker re-leveled and the stone repositioned as it was leaning to the point of possible collapse. The marker is 40 years old. So weather, freezing, sinking, etc does have a definite effect.
I'd have to agree with the flooding. But ya never know. Good vid bro!
Loved this video,very interesting.
Hi Matt, I love Bluebell flowers too, it's so beautiful to see them each Springtime carpeting the woodland areas. The only reasons I can think of for grave markers moving is either vandalism or subsidence. Great video again, thank you.
Thanks, Sue! They are quite amazing little flowers, got to try and plant some sometime!
It's just so pretty in Spring time to see a sea of blue. x
Sometimes vault workers will take old plants not cared for and plant them around the edge. When waiting for a burial to start, you can make extra money putting new foundations under stones too. Unfortunately, the machines used to dig, and carry the vaults, are big heavy pieces, and sometimes its narrow. You bump stones often. Some people dont take care to make sure theyre on neatly. Stones get bumped. Cemetaries are tight.
Awesome job kid. I like that camera.
Well said, another super find
Great video very interesting, I also love hearing the geese.
Great video, is this in Michigan? If so, where?
You could find out who is in charge of digging the graves at certain graves services and find out why the cemetery is like that . Maybe you could catch some grave service there one day and ask the guys whom are digging the graves or fixing to work a funeral . They might be able to tell you what is going on . It is very sad !! Thanks for sharing this video .
A great video..i really enjoyed watching this. Love hearing you talk & tell info/ history of things.
I'm quite old now.lol.. ..but after seeing you do these old graveyards, gave me the idea to go to some old ones I know of or just come across. I plan a trip down South for Memorial weekend. There's a lot down there I plan on looking up now.
Thanks for sharing this...
Love your old graveyards videos. This graveyard to me look like that highway when was build, split that graveyard in two parts, maybe thats why some headstones are on strange loctions, maybe they are moved from space where road is now, hope they didnt move just the headstones. And that strange leaning stones...there is lot of vibrations from a heavy vehicles passing by so maybe from that. Not a very quiet and nice place to be buried.
I wish you’d show more of the head stones then the side bushes of the grave yard 🤔
Good video :)
Place looks good for goin on 200yrs old.
you walked by more stones.than you stop.and looked at
The ice and thawing sounds good but its more likely careless lawn mowers on tractors
Matt, those headstones get moved by careless lawnmower drivers.
I found that the headstone for George E Wilson was replaced so I think that green one was pitched??
The grave stones are being moved from the big mowers cutting the grass
Timothy Hill that's what I'm thinking.
If you learn how to grave dowse you will be able to determine if there is a body with those headstones, or even those without headstones. You can tell how long and wide the body is, as well as the sex of the individual. I've dowsed in rural areas, working with the genealogy society so that headstones can be placed on those without.
Don't even ask me how it works, I have no idea. But I know it does work. I found 5 unmarked graves in a line, two adults and three children. After checking county records, it was determined that a family was buried there, they now have headstones. For me, no trip to the cemetery is complete without dowsing rods. You should try it.
Also, I found one grave where the sex could not be determined. It just kept going back and forth between male and female. I finally gave up and looked at the headstone. It was a mother and her infant son.
I to am fascinated by the tree markers ,I agree with you about the restoration I would love to do it for a job,just not sure how you would get paid. Makes me sad to see them like this.
Hunters may have driven over them. It would be my guess. Also Matt if this graves are that old they not have any ancestors left. The cemetery my grandparents are in is so old that there isn’t any staff to take care of the graves and it is up to family. I’m the only one that’s left that cares about stuff like that. Some of those markers are so heavy you need some sort of crane to move them. Great video!
Matt what state are you filming from? we have some history graveyards here in Connecticut if you plan on coming to this direction, just give me heads-up. Where did you get those vintage pinstripes pants love em?
This one was in IN. You know, I can't remember where I got them. Might have been an old Hot Topic purchase.
Theres some old cemeteries in Baltimore what would i need to rebuild old headstones. I want to restore the Baltimore cemetery on Harford road. Also who would i contact to get help?
If they hit them with a riding lawnmower or a larger landscape mower used with a tractor or even a back hoe to dig, they push the stones. Sexton wasn't careful with heavy equipment.
Train!!
Matt, another amazing video. You keep turning out great quality. Your passion for what you cover on your videos is very obvious.
Metal gravestones that turn green are another form of "White Bronze", unless you can see that it was once copper. And the moved stones are from the caretakers not paying attention while mowing and hitting stones. Stones actually are easily moved and it's a problem because, strangely, people steal them. 😠💔😢
-Markers of life, ethereal and earthly sftudies
People steal bronze to sell it at a scrap yard. Just disgusting Imo.
Actually it's not bronze at all. It's more like aluminum. But "White Bronze" sounds a bit swankier.
That flat, green-patina'd marker is bronze. Zink, or "white bronze" markers have a very distictive looke to their manufacturing. Plus, they didnt make flat markers from zink as these were 'prestigious,' cutting edge memorials.
the guy mowing this lot needs to be reported and fired for hitting all those stones
It’s just a foot stone They are placed 6 foot in front of the headstone
riding lawnmowers hitting the markers would be a good reason for the markers knocked off their bases a bit don't you think?
I agree, mowers over years cause a lot of damage. They turned my grandparents stone over. Large single stone, too large for vandals
Could it be the vibrations from the traffic moving the stones?
I have never thought of that!
tremors? earthquakes in that area? You look really handsome today.
I know I'm a little late, but where my mom and sister are buried, you're not allowed to do any work. It's all done by union workers. Where my dad is, we can do whatever needs to be done
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Maybe they do not have any family members left or they cannot afford it
The second military marker you looked wasnt for a Civil War vet but a WWI vet. You could tell by the American Legion circular flag holder, its nit a GAR emblem. Also, unless its a Mexican War vet, Civil War, Indian Wars and Spanish-American War (inclusive of Philippine Insurrection and Boxer Rebellion) all share the same design w/ either a routed shield or needle gun shield emblem. All graves and headstones move. And given the fact that this cemetery was built next to a river that floods the water to dirt ratio is probably greater then the other side of the street. So headstones will tilt, will move, will topple w/ the varying viscosity of the soil beneath. I hate to see cemeteries built close to erosion areas. Becuase, sure, 100 years ago it wasnt a problem. Now w/ that much time of erosion graves will start be be exposed and then crumble into the river. And you cn tell that there is no endowment for the cemetery ot they'd build a retaining wall to stop or at lease slow down the erosion.
I also love the old tree monuments, and thought if you didn't know about the Woodemen organization who made them popular, you'd be interested. Here's a link to a site that tells their story. agraveinterest.blogspot.com/2011/06/woodmen-of-world-and-tree-stone-grave.html
What tattoo do you have on the middle finger of your right hand?
Wish you would show what the headstones say instead of just walking by them.
The one plaque you showed was NOT copper but bronze.
Thanks for the info!
you mean well but I doubt anyone will join in for a resto party. I feel your plight though Like I say a few generations after you die and your forgotten unless your a celebrity
It's such a shame too! Thank you for watching, George!
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The graves in this place have like a ripple effect - maybe erosion? I’m always amazed at those tree graves they are so intricate and personalized to each person. I find them lovely!
Hey Jen, I love the tree grave markers too they are so pretty, some have little squirrels and other wildlife too. x
Sue Girling I’ve never seen anything like them except on these videos! They are really interesting!
Yes me too, they are definitely intriguing. Please, call me Sue ;). x
I agree Jen. Haven't seen this style of stone design until Matt put it in his videos. Wonder if it's a regional thing?
StarGazer Girl not regional. I'm in Colorado and the older grave yards all seem to have one or more tree or log markers. They often say "provided by the wood workers guild"