This guy is one of the smart interviewers,he asks the right questions with calmness.I have seen some interviewers being intimidated and judging Mr. Mapunga.Listen to the man,he has so much knowledge that we can learn,we might not like everything but as Africans we identify with a lot if not all that he says.Thank you sir for your knowledge.
I'm always thirsty for deep understanding of things but this man beats all that I have seen or heard in my generation. This man proves to me that you can be young but old in understanding.I WANT TO BE MENTORED by this man!Mkandawire from Zambia!!
Oh my Gooood what a wealth of knowledge,insights,wisdom...I almost cried at that closing statement,the illustration touched my deepest emotion.God bless you Mr Joshua you are a rare embodiment of wisdom in these days.
Iam blessed to listen to such interesting dialogue. If we Christians really want to grow we need to be open to knowledge to dymystify past inconsistencies and belifs. If the blind leads the blind thry both fall into a ditch. "My people perish because of lack of knowledge". I hope every Christian can start hving an internal dialogue with the self
In my estimation, this presentation should be required viewing for all people of color who are Christians. The argument and evidence is sound, but may be difficult for most to accept because of the value we place on the African vs Western heritage. On Sabbath evenings, I enjoy listening to my African brothers and sisters rendition of the old western religious song, but am enthralled by the renditions sung in their native language. So much to learn and unlearn. Thoroughly accepting of the concept of the "third coming" of Christ. It is biblically grounded.
"he contended that Christianity was not made to serve the dark race, particularly in Africa " Fortunately, Maponga is forbidden to speak in SDA churches. Please read your Bible so you will be able to understand what is truth, and what is error.
Much wisdonm I gained this evening, thank you kindly. Good to see that the wisdom is much more wise than the white man's supposed wisdom, and I am happy and proud to have now been woken by my Father Yahawah in Christ Father Yahawashi amine. God bless you all amine.
This has been the most informative talk I've ever come across on youtube.. I'm so glad I stumbled on this... Closing words of Mr Maponga, very powerful. This is my first time knowing this man and I can't wait to watch more videos of his... I feel honoured!! All the way from Namibia... I looooooooved this!!!
Thank you pastor maponga J III No land owner is poor, God loves the Africans he created them for a reason so please continue encouraging us to rise up and be what God called us to be a successful people (Ubuntu)
well said. you gave me hope. I grew up in Adventist church but I left it cause I can not practice my African tradition. my Mother and I don't see eye to eye, we are enemies. she is that Adventist, that is not respect other practices. she call us Demons and witches when we practice our family African practice. Thank you for this eye opening interview. I was having hatred towards the church.
These are excellent and necessary conversations for our time.Thank you Melvee for providing a platform for conversations such as these to occur. Thank you Mr Maponga for always voicing what most are thinking but never brave enough to vocalise.… I hope more of our adventist leaders can join panels like this to discuss these uncomfortable but necessary issues.We worship an unchanging God, his principles remain steadfast and true through the ages, our world is forever changing though and so to be better christians in the current climate we live in, conversations such as these need to happen more often. Amen to this wonderful work of God .
I very glad if we have such Africans ,i have hope our is now safe if we start to be conscious about our Africanism i love this guy we highly need such Africans. i enjoy watching his interviews.
I have and do enjoy when my brother's come together to share dialogue and keep in the details of the definition of the WORD....When doing so it deletes argument! Keep up the powerful movement in awakening our ppl and right about now his church would be the only one I would attend in these days and time...gotta make it out of the states but I'm in the state of mind making me there with you. Much love my reflections
Wow Wow Wow Wow ... I am in Awe this is the only man that made many to understand Bishop Maponga the 3rd (Maponga III) .... I wish all those who criticise him listen to this Wow, This man is so critical and sound i love his school of thought.
Very Open minded discussion over there. I like the way you allowed him Joshua to present his understanding on issues. Joshua yourperspectives today were well balanced I should say. "Heaven is not an escape for for Poverty" "Christ should come into our hearts first"
If man are the ones being violent towards women, yes we should address the men directly opposed to women’s and children’s groups. I agree address the problem and it’s causes and you’ll address the affected parties.
Appreciating the interview where can I get Ntate Mapongas teachings? This man Is powerful and can change the lives of the ignorant people(re lebogela dithuto)
On the matter of pictures of Jesus i really have been wondering why people do this. Who said He was Europeanesque? This is a practice that is very foreign even to the essence of Christianity itself. idolatry. This man should be listened to. He is one of the remaining voices for Africa.
if you are always forgiving , at what point do you fight, kill to protect your life, family and your right to live and thrive. instead of allowing other to thrive and suppress you an family , community..its that mentality that permitted others to dominate and slave you.
The norm or idea of christianity can be compared to the platitudes of the "teachers" who brought it....the disdain that should follow is also subjected to another's error/ errors of the said topic. We have been lied to for centuries...can we NOW RE. TURN N BECOME WHOM WE FIRST WERE? We may have become fearful of CRITICAL THINKING, PALEO HEBREW INTERPRETATIONS of OUR Writings, upsetting of COMMON USUAL ORDINARY RITUALISTIC UNDERSTANDING. We were NEVER called christians until the greeks/Rome came.....it is critical that we study think RE Evaluate, RE Analyze our Culture Our History Our Living which makes up the BOOK.
in 1976 I was a confused but ever wishing to learn black youth and a student in South Afrika, thigs happenned and lost a couple of good friends. I was twenty but didn't realy knew what was really happenning except for white people and police shooting and killing us as black students fighting against the so-called language of "afrikaans" or "rotten white language dutch of holand in our black schools who according to our history written by them came in 1652. As kids of 1976 we iagined what the hell on earth white people come come to our country and dictate the language of instruction to our schools, where is our language, and why in the first place we were instructed in English...something was really realy wrong here...so as students all over South Afrika we striked and made the whole country un governable by whites and schools dysfunctional. We did this until Nelson Mandela was released from Robben Ireland prison after 27 years. That's the legacy of studentship as a you of those years I'm coming from. Christianity has got nothing to do with me except critical reviews from time to time. We have been bamboozled!!!
Indeed Christianity has noth to do with you hence you believe Nelson Mandela was released from Robben Island and also you associate June 16 1976 with him. Really you are bamboozle, have no information at all. Seek for light maybe you will be enlighten.
Reminds me of what used to be written on our so-called baptism certificates (not sure if its still same): Heathen Name (meaning African Name - eg Simbarashe) and then Christian Name ( English Name - eg Emaculate). So, "Emaculate " is somehow more godly than our own ....? kkkkk
The Kingdom of God is not a Gnostic “sweet by and by” where human beings go when they die; it is a thoroughly historical (i.e., this worldly) reality that seeks to break-in to this present age of sin and death marked by racism. The kingdom of God is advanced as oppressions, ethnocentrism, and racism is eliminated.
I love my brother Maphonga but the statement at 30:18 about not being holy in poverty is worrying to say the least. The idea of serving God for me is that I may follow the dictates of the HOLY SPIRIT and not my fleshly desires. The idea that the white men brought their culture to Africa the dress code etc is part of the history of Africa and it is not a salvational issue. Walking closely with Jesus helps us to understand truth which may include the fact that Jesus is not white but because we do not discuss these issues and do not have the platform that my brother has doesn't mean that we blindly accept some of these teachings. My opinion is that continue to study my brothers to show yourself approved. Rev.22:12.......
Watching this in 2020, is Maponga still in this Jesus is coming business, as we all know that the bible is a myth and the story of Jesus is an Allegory.
and he did not end there,,he said they are slow because they are the storers of knowledge,,indians have not changed ,chinese have not changed,whites have not changed,,why should africans change?
Bongani Sontyali ...well, you're entitled to your own opinion. It is your opinion that my statement "attempts" to ridicule an African man...you've got "NO" idea what I meant at all. You're just starting on me nje wena!
@@nellie2mkhize608 why would i want to start on you when i dont even know you??anyway i dont think you got the capacity to sustain a debate on conflicting opinions,,so i'll just drop it
So Christianity has go through some customizing. From North East Africa, customized to Europe,' from Europe to Africa and the rest of the world non customized into any culture but imposed as superior European Christianity. T
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God minister to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay be in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (Sunday MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Deliver them to the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +23408083907256) tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you........................
Christians don't listen they sheepishly follow. Jesus according to the bible was not a Christian, at a very young age he was listening to his elders and asking questions. Disappeared and reappeared at age 33. The spirit is only second coming to those who consciously awake and listening to the voice of the spirit within every soul.
Jesus is the foundation for Christianity, he is the way the truth and the life, the only way to God. I disagree with someone of the teachings of Maponga they are misleading and causing confusion to the body of Christ. If my forefathers were working ancestral spirits other than God that's demon worship end of story. We should use the bible as our guide not our opinions we shouldn't mix our traditions with the Word of God.
You still have a lot to learn. You think following ancestors is idolatry? You are NOT aware that the white Jesus they sold to you is the biggest idol? Hahaha!
We all don't know the truth cause this Bible was rewritten by white people who knows how many words were taken out of the Bible. Let's face it we can't trust them they make us believe that Jesus was White for century. First were the missionaries who came into our land telling us that what we where doing was wrong and what they were doing correct. And then the slave trade came which was done by the same people, how can we believe every word they say,.... And just to remind you we African's never kneeled for an idol We use to pray for our ancestors what changed?
Good ideas The second coming of Jesus is not a spiritual coming as you you attributed to. It is His physical coming. Please over learning is not good sometimes, you sure end up denying your faith. You talking of colour of Jesus it is well known Jesus was born in a Jewish family and they are not black. The truth has to be told frankly without fear or favour JESUS IS COMING AGAIN SOON.
sisi Jesus is NOTwhite get that righ! Jewish people in Israel are FAKE jews. Jesus name is NOT even Jesus. His name is Yahusha this is hebrew name and yes he is from the tribe of Juda which is one of the 12 tribes of Israel and YES they are black people. Read revelation 1:14-15 and see Christ description. The blond hair and green eyes jesus is Constantine's son his name is Cesare Borge. It is a big deception throughout the world. There is a lot to learn and this is a beginning...
@@Coco-kw3iv Is it not more accurate to say that Yahushua is neither white nor black? He said can an Ethiopian change his skin. Ethiopia refers to the entire continent of Africa (a Roman name) and the country Ethiopia refers to Abyssinia. So if the original Jews were black, why would he have said can the Ethiopian change his skin if he himself is black? Is it not more accurate that he is a darker skinned person but not black?
@@prayerpower1585 what do you mean a darker skin person but not black? Can you elaborate please? The messiah is from the tribe of Judah. The tribe of Judah was/it's black from one of Jacob's sons by the name of Judah. Jacob was black with 12 boys from 4 black women. Technically, 10 boys and adopted 2 Joseph's sons Ephraim and Manasseh whom were born from an Egyptian black woman Arsenath. So, what do you mean by messiah being dark but not black?
He said His kingdom is not of this world so why would He come back and establish a physical kingdom here? The kingdom of God is spiritual..He's not coming back, judgement happened in 70ad
Kwena Samson...it does not matter uf he is for Christ or what. The importance us that he is an African spiritual original man. If Christ is true why must one ignor or refuse to reveal a truth to his fellow lost Black race? We need to wake up and question for the truth or we will be blind forever. When our ancesters give us true messangers we need to listen and appreciate the truth.
That's a very good question there, this man is contradicting himself. You see; When you eat fish, you must know how to separate the actual fish from the bones and throw the bones away don't eat everything. When you are listening to this African man, pray to God that he teaches you how to separate bones from the actual meat. This man is confused and he is also speaking against a lot of things in the Bible, and he is outspoken and fluent that he is winning the hearts of those who are ignorant and sensual. He's got a lot of thing distorted. I could say more, but enough said.
Now I am compelled to call Mapongwa out as the liar, that he is based on this video. First and foremost truth is not based on your life experience because your life experience may be a departure from the truth. Secondly according to the scripture, truth is a person, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Thirdly no person in the entire history of mankind can hate in the name of Jesus, or can kill another one in the name of Jesus, what the crusaders did in europe, what the Roman catholic did in Europe, what the Dutch did in south africa is clearly not the practise of Christianity because their conduct was not informed by scripture at all. Christianity in the whole world is the only religion that teaches to love not only your neighbor as thyself but also to love your enemies. It teaches us to bless those who curse us and despitefully use us. It's a misrepresentation of biblical Christianity to suggest that Christianity is responsible for the love of many growing cold. It's an adhominem argument for a person who calls himself a Christian to suggest that Christianity is anti- african culture and tradition. Which part of the bible condems african culture. As far as I can see the bible tells a story of how God loved us so much that he sent his only begotten son that we may not perish in our sins but have eternal life through believing in His son. Christianity condemns sin whether its European, Asian, American or african in nature and origin. But it never condems anyones tradition. If you must judge Christianity, please do so based on its text and correct practices and not on excesses of human sinners like you and me who goes around calling themselves Christian's but their lives does not testify to the truth of the Word of God. What folly that is in depraved man to think himself superior to His creator. There is no name given unto man by which man must be saved but the name of Jesus. Repent Mapongwa and believe the gospel, otherwise do not go around pretending to be a Christian spoke person.
Anyway the interpretation for religion or christianity has been misinterpreted so much so that African has miss the point totally but this brother here Joshua mapongwa has explain it to the detail what some pastor nor prophet has explain
Was Abraham; Isaac and Jacob white? Maponga you are an ignoramus. The bible says we speak of what we know we testify of what we have seen. Tomorow you are going to tell us that Jesus was white. That's foolishness. The bible does not teach that.
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God minister to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay be in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (Sunday MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Deliver them to the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +23408083907256) tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you..................
The man has a point in regard to Christianity being decolonised, Missionaries came and took away in my percpectives some african cultural practices which in no way contradcted biblical principles, whats wrong with worshiping Jesus with an african drum ? Wearing Afrcan clothes? (Woman covering their boobs ofcourse). Its just a pity he went into extremes this man to a point of denouncing the name Jesus , he lost it when he tempered with foundational principles of Christianity turning what started of good into heretic teaching, you dont mess with doctrine of the deity of Christ, Trinity, Holy Spirit, infallbility of the scriptures.
Religion was an evangelist for colonialism??? If you believe that then I really think you need to have your head examined. Why would you go get a degree on something you believe was an evangelist for colonialists? Are you a colonialist?
Beloved, I don't know you in person but God knows you. God minister to me a revelation when I was on your profile to see things around you,I saw blessings but spiritual attacks holding on to them,in prayers,i saw a woman in the realm of the spirit monitoring and plotting delay be in your life, with an evil mirror, and a motive to destroy. But as I speak to you now her time is up, Render hand of favour with Anything you can afford to these motherless foundation (Sunday MOTHERLESS FOUNDATION) in kebbi state nigeria before 2DAYS with faith, as I Rise my hands towards heaven and pray for you they shall serve as point of contact where ever you are, you will receive double portion of grace to excel and total restoration of breakthrough in your life and in the life of your family. Deliver them to the MD in charge of the orphanage to get their details on (WhatsApp or call them now on +23408083907256) tell him I sent you. For it is not by might nor by in power but of the spirit saith the lord (zechariah 4:6). You shall testify to the Glory of God in your life. God bless you......................
People think it's wisdom to move away from the bible like as this man does; I stand with the Word of God. This African consciousness this man is advocating is gonna be another form of spiritualism as now already I heard him refers to the Christian faith as "rotten apples" , so sad.
Do you even know the real meaning of Christian/Christianity? You will be shocked to find out the real meaning. African people were genocided, raped, killed, dispossessed, enslaved, chopped off hands etc in the dear name of Christianity. Just to say a few? Christianity and white Jesus were made up for colonial conquest. Wake up black people!
This guy practices folly and it seems his interviewer is not paying attention to his words. For example he ask a rhetorical question "why can I not call God the God of my fathers but I have to call him the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but I can not call him after my grandfather. Then he says something about his grandfather may have been into idolatry, then he says, I am not suggesting that you must worship him but honor him". Firstly, it's shocking that someone who claims to have a theology degree would make that claim as though they believe when we say God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, we are worshipping Abraham, isaac and Jacob". The amount of contradictions and misinformation against Christianity in this video are shocking. One thing for sure Maponga; you are an attention seeker but certainly not a Christian.
This guy is one of the smart interviewers,he asks the right questions with calmness.I have seen some interviewers being intimidated and judging Mr. Mapunga.Listen to the man,he has so much knowledge that we can learn,we might not like everything but as Africans we identify with a lot if not all that he says.Thank you sir for your knowledge.
Thanks Lindi for the compliment. I am thrilled and encouraged to hear of your feedback.
Melusi
You are absolutely right
I wish those who constantly misquote and misunderstand Bishop J Maphonga ... great interview Pr Ndlhalambi
Thank you so much!
Am addicted to maponga's teaching..very eloquent,sober,solomonic, intellectual
I'm always thirsty for deep understanding of things but this man beats all that I have seen or heard in my generation. This man proves to me that you can be young but old in understanding.I WANT TO BE MENTORED by this man!Mkandawire from Zambia!!
Did you ever manage to get access to Maponga for mentorship?
Let those with spiritual ears hear & be inspired. Truth to power. Thank you
Oh my Gooood what a wealth of knowledge,insights,wisdom...I almost cried at that closing statement,the illustration touched my deepest emotion.God bless you Mr Joshua you are a rare embodiment of wisdom in these days.
I have equally loved it
"he contended that Christianity was not made to serve the dark race, particularly in Africa "
Maponga preaches a different gospel.
Iam blessed to listen to such interesting dialogue. If we Christians really want to grow we need to be open to knowledge to dymystify past inconsistencies and belifs. If the blind leads the blind thry both fall into a ditch. "My people perish because of lack of knowledge". I hope every Christian can start hving an internal dialogue with the self
In my estimation, this presentation should be required viewing for all people of color who are Christians. The argument and evidence is sound, but may be difficult for most to accept because of the value we place on the African vs Western heritage. On Sabbath evenings, I enjoy listening to my African brothers and sisters rendition of the old western religious song, but am enthralled by the renditions sung in their native language. So much to learn and unlearn. Thoroughly accepting of the concept of the "third coming" of Christ. It is biblically grounded.
"he contended that Christianity was not made to serve the dark race, particularly in Africa "
Fortunately, Maponga is forbidden to speak in SDA churches.
Please read your Bible so you will be able to understand what is truth, and what is error.
This this is a greatest daily bread
third eye opener .
You got a great mind
"Third eye opener". Yes, Maponga is working with the Devil to open your "third eye".
Read and believe your Bible!
Wow very educative and full of wisdom an inspirational incredible Pastor so eloquently presented
I always learn when Minister Maponga speaks. Thank you for the presentation
Much wisdonm I gained this evening, thank you kindly. Good to see that the wisdom is much more wise than the white man's supposed wisdom, and I am happy and proud to have now been woken by my Father Yahawah in Christ Father Yahawashi amine. God bless you all amine.
I love this man! I wish he would come and speak in Detroit...plus he is fine Black man!
He was educated in the US am sure he wont mind coming
This has been the most informative talk I've ever come across on youtube.. I'm so glad I stumbled on this... Closing words of Mr Maponga, very powerful. This is my first time knowing this man and I can't wait to watch more videos of his... I feel honoured!!
All the way from Namibia... I looooooooved this!!!
That guy is biblically powerful. He will make you wanna read your bible and become a preacher. Stupidly amazing.
"he contended that Christianity was not made to serve the dark race, particularly in Africa "
Maponga is a heretic.
Oh yeah powerful ! Good job sir 👏👏
Thank you pastor maponga J III
No land owner is poor, God loves the Africans he created them for a reason so please continue encouraging us to rise up and be what God called us to be a successful people (Ubuntu)
well said. you gave me hope. I grew up in Adventist church but I left it cause I can not practice my African tradition. my Mother and I don't see eye to eye, we are enemies. she is that Adventist, that is not respect other practices. she call us Demons and witches when we practice our family African practice. Thank you for this eye opening interview. I was having hatred towards the church.
These are excellent and necessary conversations for our time.Thank you Melvee for providing a platform for conversations such as these to occur. Thank you Mr Maponga for always voicing what most are thinking but never brave enough to vocalise.… I hope more of our adventist leaders can join panels like this to discuss these uncomfortable but necessary issues.We worship an unchanging God, his principles remain steadfast and true through the ages, our world is forever changing though and so to be better christians in the current climate we live in, conversations such as these need to happen more often. Amen to this wonderful work of God .
I very glad if we have such Africans ,i have hope our is now safe if we start to be conscious about our Africanism i love this guy we highly need such Africans. i enjoy watching his interviews.
Noted with thanks. Keep watching MelVee.
A WISE MAN!!
may God keep this Man
Mr Maponga you are doing greatfull to open our minds
I'm a African soil even foreign named our piece of land Namibia.
diamonds of Africa, keep it up mr Josua
This man is speaking my obsession.
Yes our obsession indeed. 👋👋👋👋👋👋
Ths guy is intelligent
Long live J.Maponga your wise words touches many.
Being critic ain't intelligence
I salute you sir may your sight be strong as you makes African to seeing the light.
I have and do enjoy when my brother's come together to share dialogue and keep in the details of the definition of the WORD....When doing so it deletes argument! Keep up the powerful movement in awakening our ppl and right about now his church would be the only one I would attend in these days and time...gotta make it out of the states but I'm in the state of mind making me there with you. Much love my reflections
Wow Wow Wow Wow ... I am in Awe this is the only man that made many to understand Bishop Maponga the 3rd (Maponga III) .... I wish all those who criticise him listen to this Wow,
This man is so critical and sound i love his school of thought.
"he contended that Christianity was not made to serve the dark race, particularly in Africa "
Beware, Maponga is a heretic.
Very Open minded discussion over there. I like the way you allowed him Joshua to present his understanding on issues.
Joshua yourperspectives today were well balanced I should say.
"Heaven is not an escape for for Poverty" "Christ should come into our hearts first"
Exccellent
Thanx guys ,that's powerful
yah so greatly
We need leaders like this man here, proud Africans.
Thus man is wise is blessed with the good knowledge
The true image of Africans and the key to humanity and God worshiping.
Excellent! Thank you.
Thanks for sharing this my brother
I have fallen in love with the discourse
The man is very intelligent l like him so much.
A blessed mentality.....
This was great! Thank you for sharing.
He is a God sent.
God bless you with long life.
Thanks Melusi I like the chat with Josh
I adore this man.
Great teaching my Brothers.
God bless you mj
Great minds of our era
This is awesome in our time to open our eyes, ears and possibly unlocking our minds!!!!!!!
Papa you are very wise
Sounds unacceptable in the Christian context yet very informative. I like the way he responds to questions. Very shrewd.
christianity is actually the great deception that Jesus foretold us
Wow! Son of the Soul, mAfrika!
@@bishopjoshuamaponga6894 Be gone, Sango will deal with you
Am struggling in the area of forgetting, I forgive but my problem is that I don't forget. Am trying so hard to forget.
This is what is knew in the States as Liberation Theology! This theology is what Jesus meant by the Truth shall set us free! John 8:31-32
wow an amazing religeous panafricanist
If man are the ones being violent towards women, yes we should address the men directly opposed to women’s and children’s groups. I agree address the problem and it’s causes and you’ll address the affected parties.
Appreciating the interview where can I get Ntate Mapongas teachings? This man Is powerful and can change the lives of the ignorant people(re lebogela dithuto)
On the matter of pictures of Jesus i really have been wondering why people do this. Who said He was Europeanesque? This is a practice that is very foreign even to the essence of Christianity itself. idolatry. This man should be listened to. He is one of the remaining voices for Africa.
16:56 kushubile from here. touch this topic and you'll loose all "brothers" and you'll be called all sorts of things. 21:40 he he he
Powerful views
that was a good discussion.Josh mukoma, I thank you...shine on man
MelVee Video Productions a well wrapped fruit seen worthy eating led us to all the woes of today.so beware of perceived wrappings
Mind opener i injoy listening to this man
Man of wisdom
if you are always forgiving , at what point do you fight, kill to protect your life, family and your right to live and thrive. instead of allowing other to thrive and suppress you an family , community..its that mentality that permitted others to dominate and slave you.
Great talks
GOD Bless Me With a husband Like This 🤞
The norm or idea of christianity can be compared to the platitudes of the "teachers" who brought it....the disdain that should follow is also subjected to another's error/ errors of the said topic. We have been lied to for centuries...can we NOW RE. TURN N BECOME WHOM WE FIRST WERE? We may have become fearful of CRITICAL THINKING, PALEO HEBREW INTERPRETATIONS of OUR Writings, upsetting of COMMON USUAL ORDINARY RITUALISTIC UNDERSTANDING. We were NEVER called christians until the greeks/Rome came.....it is critical that we study think RE Evaluate, RE Analyze our Culture Our History Our Living which makes up the BOOK.
It was funny when he said 'we have developed a theology of poverty' through the story of Lazarus
in 1976 I was a confused but ever wishing to learn black youth and a student in South Afrika, thigs happenned and lost a couple of good friends. I was twenty but didn't realy knew what was really happenning except for white people and police shooting and killing us as black students fighting against the so-called language of "afrikaans" or "rotten white language dutch of holand in our black schools who according to our history written by them came in 1652. As kids of 1976 we iagined what the hell on earth white people come come to our country and dictate the language of instruction to our schools, where is our language, and why in the first place we were instructed in English...something was really realy wrong here...so as students all over South Afrika we striked and made the whole country un governable by whites and schools dysfunctional. We did this until Nelson Mandela was released from Robben Ireland prison after 27 years. That's the legacy of studentship as a you of those years I'm coming from. Christianity has got nothing to do with me except critical reviews from time to time. We have been bamboozled!!!
Indeed Christianity has noth to do with you hence you believe Nelson Mandela was released from Robben Island and also you associate June 16 1976 with him. Really you are bamboozle, have no information at all.
Seek for light maybe you will be enlighten.
Reminds me of what used to be written on our so-called baptism certificates (not sure if its still same): Heathen Name (meaning African Name - eg Simbarashe) and then Christian Name ( English Name - eg Emaculate). So, "Emaculate " is somehow more godly than our own ....? kkkkk
Yet Simbarashe translates "The Power Of God"!
Much of what is being attributed to Christianity is not
Much of African communalism is truly supported by the BIBLE
Sure... I also don't support what Joshua says that Christianity has brought individualism
And I am saying this as An African from Kenya
The Kingdom of God
is not a Gnostic “sweet by and by” where human beings go when they die; it is a thoroughly historical (i.e., this worldly) reality that seeks to break-in to this present age of sin and death marked by racism. The kingdom of God is advanced as oppressions, ethnocentrism, and racism is eliminated.
Very very true
What is your thoughts on tithing?
I love my brother Maphonga but the statement at 30:18 about not being holy in poverty is worrying to say the least. The idea of serving God for me is that I may follow the dictates of the HOLY SPIRIT and not my fleshly desires. The idea that the white men brought their culture to Africa the dress code etc is part of the history of Africa and it is not a salvational issue. Walking closely with Jesus helps us to understand truth which may include the fact that Jesus is not white but because we do not discuss these issues and do not have the platform that my brother has doesn't mean that we blindly accept some of these teachings. My opinion is that continue to study my brothers to show yourself approved. Rev.22:12.......
You can disagree with me but i think it matters on how you define poverty .
Dress like our forefathers and attend Church, all eyes will turn to you and deacons have to escort you out. Or be warned to dress better.
Am in it
Joshua is the reincarnation of King Solomon
A one-eyed man is king almost the blind
Wow what a milton minded man keep it there J
Josh Josh Josh....man this guy
Will truly responde me?
Is Ps Joshua Maponga left the church or the face?
Watching this in 2020, is Maponga still in this Jesus is coming business, as we all know that the bible is a myth and the story of Jesus is an Allegory.
Hell NO
They even say change your name
Power to Truth Joshua!!! Speak!!!!
Hahaha African man...too slow to "change"
and he did not end there,,he said they are slow because they are the storers of knowledge,,indians have not changed ,chinese have not changed,whites have not changed,,why should africans change?
Bongani Sontyali .. So???
@@nellie2mkhize608 so what? was responding to your statement that attempts to mock/redicule african man as not wanting to change
Bongani Sontyali ...well, you're entitled to your own opinion. It is your opinion that my statement "attempts" to ridicule an African man...you've got "NO" idea what I meant at all. You're just starting on me nje wena!
@@nellie2mkhize608 why would i want to start on you when i dont even know you??anyway i dont think you got the capacity to sustain a debate on conflicting opinions,,so i'll just drop it
Powerful
@@bishopjoshuamaponga6894 thank you so much we will pray
Eish this interviewer
Can you just let the good Pastor answer and stop interrupting Aagh 😡
So Christianity has go through some customizing. From North East Africa, customized to Europe,' from Europe to Africa and the rest of the world non customized into any culture but imposed as superior European Christianity. T
..this man is dangerous... (Matthew 5 v 20)....
That what TRUTH does, scary n dangerous. Am yet to see a Black Chinese yet we have White Africans ...
kkkkkkkk yah neh
Could you explain why and how?
New name Jah have,
Hail Selassie I, the lion of Judah
Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
+23408083907256) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you........................
@@bishopjoshusmoponga506 look up
You're too much Mr Maponga
@28:05 😮
Christians don't listen they sheepishly follow. Jesus according to the bible was not a Christian, at a very young age he was listening to his elders and asking questions. Disappeared and reappeared at age 33. The spirit is only second coming to those who consciously awake and listening to the voice of the spirit within every soul.
Jesus is the foundation for Christianity, he is the way the truth and the life, the only way to God. I disagree with someone of the teachings of Maponga they are misleading and causing confusion to the body of Christ. If my forefathers were working ancestral spirits other than God that's demon worship end of story. We should use the bible as our guide not our opinions we shouldn't mix our traditions with the Word of God.
To you atlist
LMAO black fool belittling his powerful ancestors who knew God before the bible.
MAY THEY FORGIVE YOUR ENSLAVED SOUL AND SHOW YOU THEIR TRUTH
You still have a lot to learn. You think following ancestors is idolatry? You are NOT aware that the white Jesus they sold to you is the biggest idol? Hahaha!
We all don't know the truth cause this Bible was rewritten by white people who knows how many words were taken out of the Bible. Let's face it we can't trust them they make us believe that Jesus was White for century. First were the missionaries who came into our land telling us that what we where doing was wrong and what they were doing correct. And then the slave trade came which was done by the same people, how can we believe every word they say,.... And just to remind you we African's never kneeled for an idol
We use to pray for our ancestors what changed?
Mind slavery
kkkkk 'at your own risk of course'
Good ideas The second coming of Jesus is not a spiritual coming as you you attributed to. It is His physical coming. Please over learning is not good sometimes, you sure end up denying your faith. You talking of colour of Jesus it is well known Jesus was born in a Jewish family and they are not black. The truth has to be told frankly without fear or favour JESUS IS COMING AGAIN SOON.
sisi Jesus is NOTwhite get that righ! Jewish people in Israel are FAKE jews. Jesus name is NOT even Jesus. His name is Yahusha this is hebrew name and yes he is from the tribe of Juda which is one of the 12 tribes of Israel and YES they are black people. Read revelation 1:14-15 and see Christ description. The blond hair and green eyes jesus is Constantine's son his name is Cesare Borge. It is a big deception throughout the world. There is a lot to learn and this is a beginning...
When he comes please tell him to stay away from me. Thanks
@@Coco-kw3iv Is it not more accurate to say that Yahushua is neither white nor black? He said can an Ethiopian change his skin. Ethiopia refers to the entire continent of Africa (a Roman name) and the country Ethiopia refers to Abyssinia. So if the original Jews were black, why would he have said can the Ethiopian change his skin if he himself is black? Is it not more accurate that he is a darker skinned person but not black?
@@prayerpower1585 what do you mean a darker skin person but not black? Can you elaborate please?
The messiah is from the tribe of Judah. The tribe of Judah was/it's black from one of Jacob's sons by the name of Judah. Jacob was black with 12 boys from 4 black women. Technically, 10 boys and adopted 2 Joseph's sons Ephraim and Manasseh whom were born from an Egyptian black woman Arsenath. So, what do you mean by messiah being dark but not black?
He said His kingdom is not of this world so why would He come back and establish a physical kingdom here? The kingdom of God is spiritual..He's not coming back, judgement happened in 70ad
Maponga, you're confusing! Are you for Christ or not?
Kwena Samson...it does not matter uf he is for Christ or what. The importance us that he is an African spiritual original man. If Christ is true why must one ignor or refuse to reveal a truth to his fellow lost Black race? We need to wake up and question for the truth or we will be blind forever. When our ancesters give us true messangers we need to listen and appreciate the truth.
That's a very good question there, this man is contradicting himself. You see; When you eat fish, you must know how to separate the actual fish from the bones and throw the bones away don't eat everything. When you are listening to this African man, pray to God that he teaches you how to separate bones from the actual meat. This man is confused and he is also speaking against a lot of things in the Bible, and he is outspoken and fluent that he is winning the hearts of those who are ignorant and sensual. He's got a lot of thing distorted.
I could say more, but enough said.
He is for Christ but against the system that proclaims Christ
Now I am compelled to call Mapongwa out as the liar, that he is based on this video. First and foremost truth is not based on your life experience because your life experience may be a departure from the truth. Secondly according to the scripture, truth is a person, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Thirdly no person in the entire history of mankind can hate in the name of Jesus, or can kill another one in the name of Jesus, what the crusaders did in europe, what the Roman catholic did in Europe, what the Dutch did in south africa is clearly not the practise of Christianity because their conduct was not informed by scripture at all. Christianity in the whole world is the only religion that teaches to love not only your neighbor as thyself but also to love your enemies. It teaches us to bless those who curse us and despitefully use us.
It's a misrepresentation of biblical Christianity to suggest that Christianity is responsible for the love of many growing cold. It's an adhominem argument for a person who calls himself a Christian to suggest that Christianity is anti- african culture and tradition. Which part of the bible condems african culture. As far as I can see the bible tells a story of how God loved us so much that he sent his only begotten son that we may not perish in our sins but have eternal life through believing in His son.
Christianity condemns sin whether its European, Asian, American or african in nature and origin. But it never condems anyones tradition. If you must judge Christianity, please do so based on its text and correct practices and not on excesses of human sinners like you and me who goes around calling themselves Christian's but their lives does not testify to the truth of the Word of God.
What folly that is in depraved man to think himself superior to His creator. There is no name given unto man by which man must be saved but the name of Jesus. Repent Mapongwa and believe the gospel, otherwise do not go around pretending to be a Christian spoke person.
You are still blind, if you can't believe jesus in you, no other jesus is good for you.
@@jayharris4397 Pardon me, but I do not understand what you are trying to communicate by your message above. Please expanciate.
Anyway the interpretation for religion or christianity has been misinterpreted so much so that African has miss the point totally but this brother here Joshua mapongwa has explain it to the detail what some pastor nor prophet has explain
Was Abraham; Isaac and Jacob white? Maponga you are an ignoramus. The bible says we speak of what we know we testify of what we have seen. Tomorow you are going to tell us that Jesus was white. That's foolishness. The bible does not teach that.
Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
+23408083907256) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you..................
The man has a point in regard to Christianity being decolonised, Missionaries came and took away in my percpectives some african cultural practices which in no way contradcted biblical principles, whats wrong with worshiping Jesus with an african drum ? Wearing Afrcan clothes? (Woman covering their boobs ofcourse).
Its just a pity he went into extremes this man to a point of denouncing the name Jesus , he lost it when he tempered with foundational principles of Christianity turning what started of good into heretic teaching, you dont mess with doctrine of the deity of Christ, Trinity, Holy Spirit, infallbility of the scriptures.
Inform yourself more and you will change ur -ve opinion on him.
Religion was an evangelist for colonialism??? If you believe that then I really think you need to have your head examined. Why would you go get a degree on something you believe was an evangelist for colonialists? Are you a colonialist?
Beloved, I don't know you
in person but God knows
you. God minister to me a
revelation when I was on
your profile to see things
around you,I saw
blessings but spiritual
attacks holding on to
them,in prayers,i saw a
woman in the realm of
the spirit monitoring and
plotting delay be in your
life, with an evil mirror,
and a motive to destroy.
But as I speak to you now
her time is up, Render
hand of favour with
Anything you can afford
to these motherless
foundation (Sunday
MOTHERLESS
FOUNDATION) in kebbi
state nigeria before
2DAYS with faith, as I
Rise my hands towards
heaven and pray for you
they shall serve as point
of contact where ever you
are, you will receive
double portion of grace to
excel and total
restoration of
breakthrough in your life
and in the life of your
family. Deliver them to the
MD in charge of the
orphanage to get their
details on (WhatsApp or
call them now on
+23408083907256) tell him I
sent you. For it is not by
might nor by in power but
of the spirit saith the lord
(zechariah 4:6). You shall
testify to the Glory of God
in your life. God bless you......................
People think it's wisdom to move away from the bible like as this man does; I stand with the Word of God. This African consciousness this man is advocating is gonna be another form of spiritualism as now already I heard him refers to the Christian faith as "rotten apples" , so sad.
Who told you that Jesus Christ is a Christian?
Christianity is for slaves
Do you even know the real meaning of Christian/Christianity? You will be shocked to find out the real meaning. African people were genocided, raped, killed, dispossessed, enslaved, chopped off hands etc in the dear name of Christianity. Just to say a few? Christianity and white Jesus were made up for colonial conquest. Wake up black people!
This guy practices folly and it seems his interviewer is not paying attention to his words. For example he ask a rhetorical question "why can I not call God the God of my fathers but I have to call him the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob but I can not call him after my grandfather. Then he says something about his grandfather may have been into idolatry, then he says, I am not suggesting that you must worship him but honor him".
Firstly, it's shocking that someone who claims to have a theology degree would make that claim as though they believe when we say God is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, we are worshipping Abraham, isaac and Jacob". The amount of contradictions and misinformation against Christianity in this video are shocking.
One thing for sure Maponga; you are an attention seeker but certainly not a Christian.
You are criticism of him is less informed.
If you listen to him objectively, you will learn a thing or two, critical thinking at its best.