When My Bare Root Roses Arrive in Fall
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 พ.ย. 2018
- What do you do when you receive your bare-root roses in the fall... do you plant them in the garden right away, or do you pot them up? In my case, I overwinter them in pots in my greenhouse, which also gives them a good head start in the spring.
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Dear Jason, I just wanted to let you know that the referral to them came from you. I got Madame Hardy and two Queen of Denmark, the latter of which has been a fantasy rose of mine forever.
I think that they will be pleased to know that you mentioned them.
And thank you!!!!!!!
Donna
I used to plant my bareroot roses righaway but now i realised its better, good good good more better to soak the roots in water for a long time. I soaked them for about two days or even more and when i planted them they just shoot out so fast just right away.
Also its much better to cut them way shorter on the bareroots when planting. They came out quite sturdy so good.
"technically, I am not to have soil in the house" - the technicalities of marriage vs male self assertive rebelliousness. I am completely with you there! ;)
@peter koller -Its not the fact of having soil in the house, that gives cause for the injunction.
Its because the necessary clean up thereafter, never quite manages to restore things back to status quo ante.
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I am not native speaker of english so im totally lost at your comments.huh
I used to buy all my roses from Pickering. They were huge! Because I am in Zone 5a/b I used to get them in mid-April. I would get 4 at a time, and it was challenging to get them in until I started taking Pickering's advice. Again, this is for spring planting in my zone. Jason's advice for roses in fall is on the money and I would definitely follow it.
Pickering suggested digging the holes before the roses arrive. It was a game changer! I would dig the holes and put bone meal or super triple phosphate to the hole and when the roses arrived I would unwrap them one by one, put them in a pot of water (although they wrapped them so well they looked hydrated) and get them into the holes. If I unwrapped them all at once I couldn't do it fast enough.
I buy all my roses now from Roses Unlimited or from Peter Schneider's Freedom Gardens. From both I get quite rare roses, like Louis Len's Bouquet Parfait. I had been trying to get that one for 20 years. I now have two. And from Roses Unlimited I got climbing Gruss an Aachen. I didn't know that it existed. He is doing a custom propagation of Glamis Castle for me. It's one of the few roses I got from David Austin that's any good in my zone. It was spectacular, but he dumps roses that lose their patents. Peter just got it. It's going to take 2 years and cost me more than Peter customarily charges but I'm all about it! And he directs me to roses I would not have known about. I was pleased, Jason, to see the Canadian Artist Rose Oscar Peterson in your video. It is spectacular. It bloomed immediately in clusters, shot up in height, gets no disease, needs minimal care and is still trying to bloom NOW, in November.
I have had Jacques/Marchesa for 20 years. I have two now. I got great ones. I installed the first one in April and by summer it had shot up to five feet and bloomed to the end of the season. One of the best I have ever seen. I got it from Antique Rose Emporium's old stock before the new people took over. I got another. I could from the new people and it's nice but didn't perform in the same way. It didn't grow quite so high so fast but it did bloom.
One thing I have figured out. If you grow a rose that not a lot of people want, you will get outsized roses. I ordered what were supposed to be one-gallon Sidonies (which some say is a Portland and others a Hybrid Perpetual) and got what were obviously two-gallon roses that bloomed within weeks. Roses Unlimited.
As usual, wonderful video. To be perfectly honest, I ignore all of the others because, although I have been growing roses for 20 years, I learn things from you. It's GREAT!!!!!
Thanks so much Donna!
Nice collection, SMILES
Only recently found your channel and it's great! Another realisation is that you're in Canada not the US..!
Jason!!!!
You mentioned that Corn Hill has bare root roses. I went onto their site because there are several roses that are better bare root (Madame Hardy being one) but their site did not offer shipping outside of Canada. Well, stubborn Donna wrote them a very polite email and it turns out hat they do ship to the U.S. and asked me to make my requests. It's going to be Madame Hardy (I have a really good one from Roses Unlimited but the ones that I have ordered from other companies were unsatisfactory), Queen of Denmark, and probably a couple more. I never would have known about this if you had not recommended them, so thank you!!!!!
So happy to hear it Donna - it's hard to know which vendors will take the extra steps to send roses into the US, and I'm glad Corn Hill was able to accommodate.
Ha!!!! I had a good laugh wtih "...technically I'm not allowed to have soil in the house..." Hehe
I just got my shipment - I'm gonna look at your spring video which I'm sure I've seen
Warmest thoughts Jennie
A+ Video - Wow, Jason, you explain things so well. This is all much more complicated than I ever thought. All this grafting stuff is confusing and why is it done? So, essentially, I need to pay more attention to the roots than the stems? You didn't say which U.S. nursery you prefer. Will your fall roses bloom in the spring?
Hi Leah. Thanks. The marketing reason that nurseries give for grafting is that a more vigorous and/or disease resistant rootstock will improve the performance of the topstock. For some varieties, this is true. For other (more vigorous) roses, it provides no benefit - and there's always the risk of rootstock suckers taking over the plant. To your question (pay attention to roots or stems) I'd almost answer the opposite. Because the stems determine all of the growth and flowering characteristics, that's the variety you need to pay attention to. The roots have to perform well, of course - so you need to consider both. I prefer own-root, and that's how I propagate. I can't get roses from too many US nurseries, as they won't sell into Canada. Grrr.
Seriously, you're in Canada? No idea. Do you ever order from overseas, i.e. London, France, etc? So, essentially you're saying you can't just pick a place in the U.S. to buy from? Why don't you get a friend in the U.S> to order what you want and have it sent to you that way? Sounds like nurseries are discriminating against Canadians! Thanks for the explanation.
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Thanks for the video, it's super helpful!
I've been researching for a while now because I have an Iceberg climbing rose arriving tomorrow - almost every search result seems to imply I should not plant bare root in fall, but I live in western Washington State. The forecast for this year looks like it will be "warm and wet", reaching a nighttime low of 32 only a couple times before the new year, but always climbing at least into the 40s during the day. So no hard freezes, at least not in the next 2+ months. In your professional opinion, do you think I could plant directly in the bed I have prepared, or should I pot my rose for the winter as you did in this video??
And if I were to pot it, how should I store it considering I don't have a greenhouse?
Hi Melamimi. I share your climate zone and I'm still planting and transplanting. My gut tells me the roses will get a decent amount of "settling in" and initial rooting time before any sever cold comes our way. I could be wrong, but I think you're better off getting them into the ground now than trying to overwinter them in pots.
Is any potting mix okay for bare roots and for roses in general? Or is there a specific mix we can do at home that may be better?
Hi Vicky. Most any potting mix is designed to hold reasonable amounts of water and air, and to drain freely. I use something based on composted bark right now, but a peat/perlite mix works just as well.
How grafted rose looks when you propagate from cutting.
Same characteristic?
Hi Nelly. If you take cuttings from the topstock of grafted roses, they will have the same characteristics of flowering/foliage, etc. Some of them don't grow very strongly on their own roots and are better grafted. Examples from my own experience include 'Distant Drums', 'Double Delight', 'Joseph's Coat' and 'Just Joey' (and of course, I hope someone proves me wrong!) - but it seems like some varieties produce weak, disease susceptible roots. Many many more are fine on their own roots - and have the advantage of never being threatened by takeover of the rootstock suckers.
Fraser Valley Rose Farm thank you so very much
I am dead seeing roses bareroot like this over there. They are soo good..quality like this is non existent here in India.
I just got myself about 40 roses from Tantau and Kordes. I'm in Norway so at this point, it is too late to plant them in the ground. Should I keep them potted in a cool, dark basement? or in a cool basement with grow lights? I love your channel. Thanks :)
Cool basement would be my pick. Lights aren't too important if they stay dormant, but a bit of very gentle air circulation could be helpful and check frequently to make sure there's not sign of mold or rot.
Hey Jason! I’m getting some bareroot roses from EU to plant in Boston (zone 6) around Oct 20. Can I plant in the ground now? If not, do I need to keep the potted roses close to some light exposure through the winter?
I can't make the call for your climate. The benefits of getting them into the ground do start to diminish as you approach the first frost date. My experience here encourages me to push my luck a little, but you'd certainly know better about Boston. If you pot them up and keep them cool, they'll likely go dormant at some point - after which their light needs are minimal.
I am looking for fragrant variety of rose. Can you send in Ontario.
Do you recommend soaking the roots in water first before putting in the pot?
If they're a bit dehydrated, it's not a bad idea. Mine arrived with plenty of moisture.
Why Technically can you NOT have soil in the house?? QUESTION #2 ,, My wife found some bare root roses in a big box store here in West Texas (left overs from last summer). I live in the high desert and its now Mid January. Our daily Day time temps right now are low 40 Deg - high 55 deg. Day Time. . Night time = low 20s to high 30s. The roses have some new growth already starting so I'm leaning to not planting them out side till freezing temps are less likely. I do not have a green house. What should I do with the roses? Can I POT them and keep them inside in a sunny location? They are in a plastic soil filled bag. Can I leave them in the bag and should I moisten the soil??
Well at the time my wife just didn't want my gardening hobby intruding into the house. I've made some inroads in the meanwhile! It's a tough call if you still have a fair bit of deep cold coming your way. I don't know your whole growing situation, but I'd be inclined to pot them and then keep them on the cool side. If you have an unheated garage or cool room in the house, cool but not exposed to deep freezing temperatures, that might be a decent place to get them through until the risk of colder weather is lower. I'm sure you have milder stretches of weather too - and depending on how much attention you want to give the issue, it would be fine to grow them outdoors during mild weather and just tuck them into the garage or inside a patio door for the coldest stretches.
I purchased a couple of Hybrid Tea bare root roses, and planted them in fabric pots about three weeks ago, are they safe for the winter (USA Zone 7 hardiness)?
You'll know your local weather way better than me - I'd hold off until you know your past the risk of hard frost.
@@FraserValleyRoseFarm Okay, thank you for the info.
Even with your care and attention how many bare root roses fail percentage wise, ones you have bought as l am interested in there general reliability.
Hi Colin - depends almost 100% on the quality of the supplier. I won't bash anyone, but it's almost like "all or nothing" based on the shipment.
from where you bought it
I ordered these from Palatine roses
Good Day Sir, I am Jaisugumar, from chennai, here we don't have D A roses supplier, can you able to send me the D A roses to India.
Thanks for watching. Sorry, we can't ship any roses internationally.