Do We Owe Royal Enfield an Apology?
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If you are gonna try the smaller ones, do the Classic 350. Its basically the INT650, but even more striped back very simple and cheap as hell. Great fuel mileage as well
yea i agree with calvin i took a interceptor for a test ride here in australia and one of the other riders was getting his first bike and he took out the classic 350 and it looks and sounds pretty good and was on the highway doing "ok" at 100kmph / 60mph
im sure with some power mods and things the little classic 350 will be a pretty neat little ride
i currently ride a yamaha v star 650 classic and i love it to death but its hurting my upper back due to a medical condition so ive been looking around at a few cheap reliable bikes like the CB650R and the int 650 and KLR 650 tho the KLR is abit too slow for my liking it needs a little turbo to give it another 10HP or somthing
i do long rides on long strait roads that go for hours if you have any ideas that arent the versys 650 or v strom 650
Hey yammie, do a review on the new bmw 310 rr bmw and tvs released
I just bought a classic 350. I would love to ride it down there and let you try it out. It’s a very charming “gentlemen’s motorcycle “.
Modify it to the teeth. It will still be cheaper. 🤣
Brazilian guy here. I totally understand why they feel the 350s are inadequate for the USA roads and speed limits, but I think they could take in account that the average usage is a LOT different in Europe, Asia and South America. Also how great they are for begginers and returning riders. After more than 30 year I came back, got a Meteor, at 52 years old, and every week I'm on the road. The bike is a Joy. No doubt I'll get something bigger in a year or two (probably the RE 650 cruiser that is coming), but its qualities, centered in experience, acessibility and great price with good quality, can't be denied. Not counting the differences in average buying power. Around here it is grossly a third of the USA. Imagine if the Harley baseline price would be 60K USD. Only the super rich could get it and most people would be buying smaller, lower capacity bikes. I am a trauma surgeon and I can't get one of those.
Here in Europe there is no need for the 350 when you go from a1 15hp to a2 48hp
Brazilian here to. Agreed with every single think you sayde. For the large part of the USA peoople, 650 cc bikes are small bikes. Here in Brazil, 250cc are small/medium size bikes kkkkk
@@sanitvr same here in the UK. 125s to 350s are considered small bikes and 650s are considered big bikes to allot of people.
@@antonsamuelsson1317 I agree Ive just done my CBT and have a 125 and when I get my A2 license I'm getting a 650 and skipping a 350 cos it's just not worth the money when I can buy something bigger
Even in the USA. I’m novice and 54 years old and don’t want to plop down a kinds of cash on my first bike. I’m sporting a new RE 350 classic. It’s so fun to ride and since I’m mostly local, it gets a lot of use! Even when I get the bigger faster second bike… the RE 350 will still get the most use.
Finally Yammie Noob has learned that " It's not the spec sheet which makes fun it's the rider who makes the fun moment's and memories with the Bike " - Achievement Unlocked .
Maybe next he can find another description for less powerful bikes than "beginner bike." I'm 60 yrs. old, been riding on and off for almost 50 yrs. and will never have a bikes that makes peak HP at 11,000 rpm. I'm happy with a bike that' gets me back me back and forth to work with a smile on my face.
@@jeffrielley920 70 years old here and rider for 44 years on all sizes and kinds of bikes. Now I ride a Honda Rebel 300 and LOVE It. Light and enough power to do what I want.
But that's immeasurable and extremely subjective. You could have good memories of any bike, doesn't make them all good.
@@cradleofgoth It depends on whether in your memories you are having a good time or just were wrenching the bike .
@@jeffrielley920 Exactly , I am 55 and have been riding for 45 of those years , BSA, Triumph , Norton , Yamaha , Kawasaki , Honda , and now own a 2021 Interceptor ( as my 2nd bike ) and love it to bit's , like my old British classics but , Reliable and fast enough with that ' Sound ! '.
I would love to see you guys go to India and explore how people use motorcycles over there and how Royal Enfield, and motorcycling in general, fits into their way of life. That could be a fascinating series of videos if you guys ever feel like doing something different. That would also help explain the lower models of bikes that RE offers.
Good point. These low end bikes are targeted to enjoy our indian road environment. More people get included due to the lower prices.
It needs guts...These lazy bumps are too lazy to get out of America .... But would teach the world with their limited knowledge... America are not the only one who use motorcycles... World use motorcycles far
better than Americans😋
Lol no. I like Yammie and all but he made himself clear that his view is narrowed on USA, even lampshading how it's only tiny teeny part of motorcycle world.
I agree. That would be an interesting series. Something like that program with truck drivers from around the world trying to drive on himalayan routes.
Bruh, only a tiny, really tiny portion of the Indians like the Royal Enfield these days. The older ones are awesome, but the recent 350's and 500's are jack shit. For the price payed they deliver very bad quality motorcycles. I owned a 500 four years back, and within a month of delivery it started rusting. I sold it within a year.The only successful models are the Himalayan and obviously the 650twins. At the end of the day, 80% people buy Royal Enfield as they sense it a symbol of pride or something. I own an interceptor 650 but I bought it cuz it is a fun to ride motorcycle.
Have a Classic 350 and love it. Perfect for the roads here in Thailand. Handles and feels great. Oozes personality. A bit underpowered for America, but perfect for a lot of other countries.
Funny you mention that, I'm in Bangkok and frequently see a Meteor 350 in my neighborhood (Sukhumvit Soi 8) and I think to myself, man - what a cool looking little bike.
Do you mean old classic or new classic? The new Classic just like the Meteor is butter smooth. The old classic is like 1930 thumper (which it might as well be).
@@victoriazero8869 The new one. Butter smooth, makes all kinds of satisfying backfire pop, just so many things to like about the bike. I'm not missing the horsepower, the bike is a blast.
@@hopfrogg9599 We're in agreement.
I have a RE Bullet 350 with a kick start and totally love the retro feel. Makes you stand out in the crowd of sports bikes. And the charm of that bike is out of this world.
Have had my Meteor 350 for almost a month. It's my first bike at 51 yo, I wanted something to commute to work, ride the side roads, and have no interested in burning rubber or popping wheelies. I want to cruise around and not die. Its been perfect so far
Absolutely
That's what lower displacement motorcycles are for, To Not Die
I’m absolutely with you Chad.👍
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I’m very pleased with my 650. It’s the closest I could get to my first bike, a 77 Yamaha twin. Picked it up in Albuquerque, lashed my backpack, tent, and sleeping bag to it, and rode a roundabout 3700 miles back home to Puget Sound over two weeks.
I enjoyed your video. But, as a proud Meteor 350 owner, I think you are underestimating this bike. I live in Houston and 99.9% of my riding is just around town. It's perfect for this. This bike was not purchased to ride to Sturgis. As fun and easy as this bike is to ride, I would not be surprised to see the sales of smaller displacement bikes take off.
You don't understand. If you can't ride it like a complete asshole, then the motorcycle is useless.
I disagree. These bikes make perfect sense, for who their target market is. It's now an Indian company which sells the most units in India. In fact it sells well in Asia in general. Americans and Europeans make up such a tiny portion of RE owners.
These are practical bikes, made as commuters and daily riders for people in countries where motorcycles are the main form of personal transportation. That's why they're so basic, that's why they're so cheap. They havent adjusted their marketing or altered their products to meet the north american and european markets. They know their bread and butter and they stick to it.
well good for everyone i guess, europe and usa included
To be fair, these were specifically designed for Indian roads, where the speed limit is 60 miles per hour at best. There is no place in India where you need anything more than 15 horsepower on a bike.
Obviously, they will suck on American roads, but that's not what they're meant for.
well said
Indian highways have 120 kmph ( >70 mph ) upper speed limit .
so if they werent designed for use here in the US, why sell them here? we dont have license restrictions like Europe does so getting the smaller 350 is just more of a hassel than getting the 650. especially if you ever want to take your motorcycle anywhere other than just cruising around small towns at 25-45 mph. and at that point, why not just get a honda which is more fuel efficient.
I love the 650 and I do plan on getting one, but the smaller displacement bikes just dont ever make sense here in the US. they are right in saying theres just better options out there that do a better job in every catagory.
I did 160 kmph (almost 100 mph) on this bike, on Indian roads.
Sure India has bad roads in quite a few cities, but damn the highway are mind blowing.
Clearly you have never been to North-East. The highways are nothing less than American countryside highways. Not to mention the low population.
You guys must create an ideal version of the Interceptor! Remove all the unnecessary weight (say 50 lbs from exhaust, alloy wheels, etc.) and do some performance mods. I am sure it'll become something amazing under your guidance.
There is an 850 Kit available which makes a lot of power. But the cost is pretty high because the installation requires a lot of machining. If you look at the cost you could buy a different bike with more power from the get go.
@@marcelpursche5339 I would prefer if the same engine can produce ~60 hp and the bike weighed 50 lbs less. There is a Tec 2 in 1 exhaust which itself can shed 26 lbs and improves performance!!! Many other unnecessary things can be removed or replaced.... The performance difference will definitely be significant.
@@marcelpursche5339 nah, just an exhaust and a tune will push it to 55 bhp; that much power is enough for an air-cooled engine.
Then, those funds can be spent on weight shaving.
@@kurroth exactly
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Considering the current economic conditions , we should appreciate companies like royal enfield providing us with so much fun bikes at so low prices that you actually feels that u paid less than what it is worth !
If you're going to try the Meteor (or Classic) try to imagine it's end use. I have a Meteor because it's the bike I've been waiting for for thirty years-basically a 1940s or 50s British small capacity single that you don't have to strip down every thousand miles. Around my home in Scotland even the A roads are country roads. It's perfect for the conditions: heavy enough to feel grounded, sufficiently agile for winding poorly maintained tarmac, returning over 90mpg and comfortable enough for my ancient and aching ass.
@@michaelmurdock4607 Did 260 miles on it today. Sweet as a nut.
Y'all should definitely try the Meteor 350.
I use mine for city commuting and the occasional highway jaunt, it's absolutely perfect for that! Probably wouldn't put in a cross-country tour on it though.
For reference, I test-rode a Triumph Bobber, a Rebel 500, and a Meteor 350. The Meteor was by far the most comfortable, smoothest handling, and had juuust enough power on tap to take her on the highway.
It's great to see you guys grow as motorcyclists. Apology accepted!
Horses for courses, the Interceptor isn't designed to be a Harley and the Meteor isn't designed to be a high speed racer. Both take me back in spirit and feel to the bikes I rode in the 60s in the UK. Please try the Meteor and Classic long term, doing what they are designed to do. Outside of the USA road conditions, speed limits etc are diferent. Here in Australia the my Meteor is a great fit, it will cruise at the speed limit here all day, it'll handle dirt roads, it'll wizz round town to do the shopping, all without breaking the bank. What's more, it has a great single cylinder exhaust sound, the Clssaic sound is even better. 🙂
Since when do harleys make big horsepower? lmao
@@AZ-wc5ot Thinking of riding style (highway cruiser) bike size, and sound rather than horsepower. Don't take offence, but in many places in the world Harleys are regarded in the same way as USA cars are, sort of the "Yank tanks" of the motorcycle world. 🙂
As an older rider, I've had my big bikes but now it's different... I love my smaller displacement bikes because for me it's about enjoying the ride. I don't need to be anywhere at breakneck speed... I've even taken my Trail 125 on adventures and the challenges are more fun than trying to keep a 500lb bike up on the trails. I now have 3 Royals in my corral now. Plus you cannot beat the price.
Well said. Putt putt down the road. 🙂
Exactly enjoy the view
It’s really not just “newbies” these bikes are for. Our last few bikes were ZRX, Valkyrie, and a Gold Wing. But, as an older rider, I wanted a good bike for buzzing around our city or even through a local National Park on weekends. I’m to grown up for a scooter. And my wife loves riding with me…not always great on a scooter. R.E. Has hit this target! And it’s bigger than you think…is a Bonny T100 REALLY worth the money? Anyways, that’s my 2 cents.
Not that great for above average sized pavilion.
New Zealander here. Big RE fan. Great discussion. The big thing to come out of all this is the road quality and speed limits around the world. Even here in NZ our speed limits are mostly 90-110 on all open roads and these are single lane and often average quality. We have no interstate. India and Asia worse again. RE makes sense in that context more than in parts of the US.
Australian here, I fully agree.
We also have 90-120 speed limit on highways and mostly city roads are limited to 60, so even the small 350s work pretty good everywhere
I think that argument is valid in the UK too (and quite possible very many other parts of Europe). Yes, we have motorways, but there is a massive network of single carriageway roads which call for a manner of riding/driving which might not be understood by people in some parts of the USA. The videos I've seen from the USA would seem to suggest that the meaning of the word "Twisties" varies between different countries.
Edit. The maximum speed limits in the UK are 70mph on dual carriageways and 60mph on single carriageways
In brazil they launched an engine remap that makes the bike to run better with our 25% ethanol admixture to the gasoline (cars and brazilians bikes can run on gasoline or ethanol, Brazil is the world first bioeconomy) and they suspended the speed limitation, now the meteor can go up to 130km/h.
Every time you talk shit about RE it triggers me but then I realise that from your perspective it's true. America has a huge selection of beginner and small cc bikes that the 350 RE models don't seem appropriate. My family owns 3 RE (Classic 500, Himalayan and Conti 650) and we love all of them for different reasons. Love your videos and glad that you guys finally gave RE a chance. Apology accepted 🤣
its not that, everywhere is high speed. i would get flattened on my roads with a 350. there nice thought
Trigger=more views. $$$$$. He knows he's not that knowledgeable.
@@roadrunner681 Don't be silly, German roads are much faster.
@@jimwilson946 no there not, the big roads sure but germans frome what I've been told are nice on the roads. American roads are a war zone
The Himalayan is a great bike that you really have to ride to understand. Like my TW its slow speed poke around bike that can go anywhere and is fun. If you get one take it off road in the places you take the KLR. Its not a high speed tourer for sure, nor is it sporty. Its mission is load it like a pack mule and ride it around the world on any terrain.
Himalayan with a 650 tuned for American high-speed roads would have monstrous sales.
@@mrspeigle1 as long as it isn't an absolute tank. Doubt it would be under 400lbs
What make us exited about a motorcycle is if it makes us feel like a main character of a movies when I ride it. Gsx250r don't make us feel like a superhero, now you get it
Recently bought a himalayan, and I thoroughly enjoy it. I came in with the expectation of a slow, heavy, and underpowered bike and while it is those things, it compensates. It has plenty of low end torque to get safely ahead of traffic from a stop, the weight is all the way down on the bottom, and in the power band it easily gets over almost anything. I was torn between the himi and the int at the dealership, test drove both of them and drove out with the himi.
And if you see some crappy gravel or dirt road, you're not afraid to go explore it.
The meteor 350 isn't that bad, most countries have shitty roads and slower speed limits anyway. Ofc for the US market isn't a good bike. But for short commute and urban riding the meteor is decent.
In brazil they launched an engine remap that makes the bike run better with our 25% ethanol admixture to the gasoline (cars and brazilians bikes can run on gasoline or ethanol ot both of them at the same time, Brazil is the world's first bioeconomy) and they suspended the speed limitation, now the meteor can go up to 130km/h.
Get the S&S Cycle Big Bore Kit, it bumps the RE up to 865cc and 70 bhp with enough torque to do an involuntary wheelie in 3rd gear.
Rest of the RE frame is engineered enough to withstand the power increase, although I recommend also a small upgrade of the breaking system.
An Indian from America, I just can’t get past the fact that I can pay less than half of the US price to essentially get the exact same bike in India.
After riding Vespas/Jawa in India 25+ years ago, stopped riding in the US - though kept thinking of buying an RE for last 15 years. After following you guys and Itchy Boots, the itch for 2 wheels became too strong. Ended up buying a 2007 VStar 1100 in 2020 (with 35 miles on odo) and am a very happy camper. Thinking of getting an adventure bike next.
You dumb? How can't you get this. Transportation and taxes/import duty doesn't exist as per you.
Just similar to how I paid $10K for Kawasaki Vulcan S in India which costs much less in the US !!
@@sathishrao7926 something like Ghar ki murgi dal barabar...
But you're are also paid almost 6 to 8 times more for what you work in US compared to India.
They are going to release the meteor 650 with the interceptor engine with a different tune soon 😀 cruiser boys gonna get excited real soon
Sounds dope but a cruiser has to have a V-twin in my opinion. Does not have to be an aircooled 114cui engine but still. Sounds and looks better.
@@hendrikg3616 It's going to use the INT650 Twin-P with the 270d crank. So it'll have the V-twin bark, Just not extremely noticeable without AFM exhaust. Plus I get ya, abut the cruisers needing V-twins. Probably the reason why I don't want the Rebel 500 is because it sounds like a stupid sports bike in a sportster body. A No-Go for me.
Wow 🤩
Wanted the interceptor. Was too heavy for my liking. Got the classic green. So far happy with my decision. I might consider buying the upcoming supermeteor in the near future
I've owned three motorcycles in my life: a 2004 Royal Enfield Bullet 500, a 2013 Bonneville SE, and a 2022 Royal Enfield Meteor 350. Did a 1000 mile trip round trip on the 2004 Bullet from New Jersey to Ohio and back. I avoided interstates, budgeted in an extra day each way to take things slow, stuck to the two-lane highways and stayed at campsites. Slowing down a bit let me enjoy the scenery and small town cafes, mom and pop restaurants, etc. I would have missed using the interstates. Even when I got my Bonneville, which was more than capable of interstate speeds, I found myself riding the same way: I stuck to the backroads and enjoyed the scenery even on long trips. Now I have the Meteor.. Works just fine for my work commute from Elgin to Austin, and given some extra time will get me anywhere I want to go. It may not do everything that most riders in the USA would want, but it fits my riding style and does everything I want it to do very well. The build quality and reliability (so far) are miles ahead of my old 2004 Bullet. Maybe taking my first long trip on a drum-braked, carbureted 20hp thumper with points ignition tempered my expectations, but I am very happy with my current ride!
Riding interstates for long distances sucks. Doesn't matter the bike. My bike's fast af but road trips for me are 90 percent real roads. I agree about the scenery also like stopping for meals in local restaurants.
You said it right. A 350 will get you there. Just stay off the expressways!! Not a good place for any motorcycle really. Trucks and four wheelers in a big hurry.
Apparently the 850cc conversion turns it into much more of a hooligan's machine, and much more inclined to wheelie. You should give one of those a try!
The 865 big bore kit?
@@bernardoblanchetramirez6032 That sounds like the one, I couldn't remember the exact figure. Stuart Fillingham, a British MC TH-camr, tried one out and it's quite a change in the character of the bike.
No thanks. I like my mellow bike. I'm old and mellow too. 😊
Meteor rider here, I wanted an interceptor but really couldn’t stretch to it and needed a new bike immediately to get to work. I took the Meteor for a test ride and couldn’t stop smiling on it.
That said, I wouldn’t fancy riding it in the US, especially on freeways, it’s perfect for U.K. roads excluding motorways. It’s completely tapped out at 70mph.
For a cruising round enjoying the scenery and thumping to work it’s great. Especially as it’s so cheap and gets 90mpg 😬
Guys, I like your humble take on RE. As an owner of two Ducati's, a Harley and a Himalayan, I find the HY the bike of choice when I just want to explore the unpaved, often not very well-maintained roads around here. It's hard to beat, especially at the cost point of the bike, and, knock on wood, I've had no issues with it in almost 3 years of ownership. And there's something relaxing about the bike in a way that's hard to explain... For a long trip, it's my Multistrada. For a hooligan ride, it's the Hypermotard and for two up, the Harley. For a first-time adventure rider with a small pocketbook and time to explore, the Hym is a pretty good choice.
I think you guys have much better selection when it comes to Dual sports. I feel Himalayan was a poor choice.
In India, Himalayan is the only big capacity dual sport. That is why it sold well. Absolutely no competition.
RE still managed to screw such a simple bike.
There were absolute horror stories about Himalayan's durability. The wiring was cheap, welds were horrible and chassis broke fairly easy. The engine weighs way too much for the performance it offers.
RE has a reputation of being unreliable in India. They were selling 80s engine tech.
Recently, Bullet 350, Meteor and the 650 twins got completely new engines that were built to modern standards.
650 twin is a gem of a engine.
@@anirudhhhh A better selection no doubt, but a better selection for the price, not so much.
I have my meteor 350 for 6 months already and this bike became my baby... I know it has little torque, I know it can't go over 130km/h and I also don't know why I love it sooo damm much!!!!!
I truly miss my "Eliza" if I don't her get out for 2 days in a row and from time to time I get myself smiling out of nowhere in the middle of a curve... RE got to my soul, and I thank her so much for this... It's all about the ride, not about the specs...
I was a sports bike squid for years. My cousin owns a 2019 Baker Express Interceptor and I borrowed it for a trip. I was so impressed by the sound and feel of this motorcycle, its like once you get to around 4th gear and onwards, there is this whistling sound from the engine. It sounds absolutely amazing.
🤣 am also a sucker for that whistling sound. Its not as pronounced as a triumph triple whistle. But its there. Especially the rider can feel it and its so much fun when you are riding in windy hill station roads.
@@user-qv1wt1zj4n ambada malayali
In India, Royal Enfields cost half of what they're charging in the US (2779$ vs 4649$ for meteor) since it's manufactured here and comes with a trust that every mechanic here can repair one. At that price point it's one of the best options.
And India's wage level is tenth of that of US
Not much difference in 650 Interceptor and continental GT price in India & USA though. Just a few $100.
The interceptor is my 5th Royal Enfield / motorcycle I've owned in the last 12 years.
I went up the steps gradually from a
1974 Cast Iron 350 - my dad's bike on what I actually learnt how to ride on.
2012 Classic 350 - finally bought my own when i started working and got into motorcycling seriously.
2014 Classic 500 - upgraded cause I wanted a bit more power.
2018 Himalayan 411 - downgraded engine capacity but went "adventure" cause i wanted to have a little fun. This was my most favourite of the lot. Too much fun on this one.
2021 Interceptor 650 - upgraded cause the Himalayan didn't have enough oomph. I love this bike! But still miss being bratty like how i was on the Himalayan.
I just test rode the BMW F850 GS for a possible upgrade soon and loved everything about it and found out twin cylinders are what I like the most rather than the triples or the 4 cylinders (after rigorous testing of the Tiger 660 and Tiger 900).
BUT!!! What's funny was, right after testing the GS and I got back on the Interceptor 650 to go back home, I couldn't understand why the interceptor brought back such a wide grin on my face. RE has definitely hit this one out of the park with a few little niggles. But IS there really a perfect bike?
I like the fact that you guys noted how good it sounds. I've got a pair of after market Red Rooster exhaust's clipped on, and ohhh how this bike makes heads turn!!
So glad that RE is finally getting the recognition they deserve for keeping motorcycling simple and accessible !
I see no problem with a small bike like a 350 in the US if you have no interest in cruising Interstate highways. To me, those super highways are meant to get you places express. I never ride interstates if I'm out on a recreational ride. I'm a laid back kinda rider in no rush. Feel no need to drag race light to light. Guess it depends on one's riding likes.
Dead on. The esteemed American journalist Charles Kuralt once observed that (paraphrasing here) our Interstate freeway system was a supremely efficient way to cross the country without actually seeing anything.
@@petehealy9819 Excellent point. I've heard that quote before. Kudos for remembering
What I like about the Interceptor is that it seems to me to be the sort of bike that the decently competent mechanic can customise and work on. To me, it kind of screams cafe racer rebuild, but then tha'ts my fave sort of bike :D
Slap an S&S on them and you’re gonna love the sound even more. I do like the stock sound but the after market ones just makes it a bit more enjoyable.
I saw and heard one with S&S exhaust at a bike show recently and it sounded pretty damn sweet
RE motorcycles are for the relax and take it easy rider. Tractor engines , low power wide power band. lower speed cruse and enjoy the view.
The only weakness for that bike is it's Tyres , I would love to see it with Michelin or Pirelli's .
Changed mine for bridgestones. Makes a big difference
My Meteor is great if you fully understand it's limitations. Interstate highways are a no because you'll only hit 70+mph going downhill with a tailwind, but it's got the tripper to plan a route that avoids them and takes you on new and exciting routes.
Love mine, classic whilst completely unpretentious. The noise alone is amazing... like a baby Harley. No baffles in the exhaust = continual revving at the lights.
I love my 350classic . best fun factor I ever experienced on any of my bikes since 1973...Good value for the money, solid build and a perfect little touring machine that could take you around the world.
I feel much better after the apologies! I like my interceptor 650. Kinda feels a bit like my 1967triumph.
I have a Meteor 350 and I love it. It is perfect for my use case in India. I use it for commuting to office everyday and leisure long drives on the weekend. I don't have interest in going really fast or popping wheelies. It's an excellent bike for our country's road conditions.
Yea i am still thinking as my first Motocycle i going for the Meteor 350 as it will suit the purpose of a nice Urban/city cruiser and i can also do a few twisties if i want. If i want to cruise on the HWY or even go fast thats what i have my Mustang for. Hopefully by this time next year ill have taken the MSF course and gotten my M class on my License and get a Meteor 350 to cruise around on before i upgrade to the coming up Super Meteor.
I'm a returning rider after a 25 year break, don't want to go back to big heavy bikes, saw the meteor online and loved the look (really don't like the Rebel). It's a great bike, comfortable, manoeuvrable and dirt cheap to run. Watched the comparison between the 300 and 500 with the Honda CBR 500 last night and the things you were saying there, are the reasons I love the meteor. Ergonomically, it suits me, the foot slightly forward puts less pressure on my knees (I also love the heel-toe shifter). Looks wise it really jumped out of the screen when I first saw it and I'd been looking at a lot of bikes without the same feel.
Sure, it's not fast, but I often take it to around 75 mph and cruise between 65-70, enjoying the ride. I've no trouble getting away at lights when filtering to the front. After being back on a bike for a while now I am looking at getting a bit more power. I tried the Interceptor, love the looks , the sound, and the ride, but the feet slightly back, put pressure on my knees when shifting up. Guess I'll have to wait for the Super Meteor 650.
3:25 that was my thought process as well, I was considering the Classic 350 as a college commuter (costed about 2.5 lacs/$3200 after tax) but then I saw the interceptor (3.5 lacs/$4400 after tax) and since the price wasn’t that much more and you got like 2 times the performance I went for it instead
For Indian context, the performance is great, especially on highways, but I am not sure if it suitable for day-to-day commuting because of the weight and the foot peg position.
What country is it that price? That's way cheaper than UK.
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I just sold my classic 500 and upgraded to interceptor, I'll say classic was way more comfortable
You guys did it. My first bike was RE Bullet and now riding the M109R but still miss the bullet. It was crazy good.
When I think back over my 40 years of riding pretty much every type of bike from cruisers to superbikes, some of the most fun bikes I've owned have been the small capacity low powered one's. My favourite being my CX500 back in the 80s. Sometimes less really is more
I remember those we used to call them maggots 🤣 very popular with the dispatch.
One thing no one can take away from Royal Enfield is its century old heritage...it is a piece of biking history.
The 650 is very handsome, a good value and is highway able. What's not to love?
was my first bike. she is a sexy beast. people always come up to me and ask me questions. i tell them my life story. we laugh. sometimes hug. its always nice until a random harley bro pulls up... so big... so scary.
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Yeah, it's happened to me too. The hot chick with me jumped off my bike and onto the Harley even though the owner was like sixty years old, had a huge scraggly beard and a big beer gut. I had to seek psychiatric help and am still trying to recover.
@@browngreen933 wow... i feel for you my friend. im in therapy becuase of all these harley bros, myself... the pain will probably never go away. but ill always have my Royal Enfield 650 and low calorie craft Beers. and i think that thats kinda manly... and no one can ever take that away.
"It's 'We have sent this through THOUSANDS of rounds of R&D, We shaved off EVERY unnecessary ounce, AND for an extra thousand dollars we'll sell you it's SOUL back to you!'" -Spite, hitting the hail on the head
Rode my sons RE Himalayan last summer and it was just simply fun. Their bikes are light, simplistic, reliable and very affordable. It was the fun I remembered about riding motorcycles that my 23 street glide is going on the market before spring.
In the UK, you can go into a showroom which are as common as McDonald's buy a bike and get it within a couple of days and they are selling them hand over fist. I ride a Tuono but test rode the interceptor & Meteor for a mate who is on a foreign licence & can't test ride. The build quality, looks and warranty for the RRP is insane, unbeatable. The Meteor handled well, but I couldn't get on with the power band and heel or two at all. The looks of the interceptor, the after market support and the price it's hard to to argue with at all. I almost bought one, but I ride like a Jeremy Hunt on occasions so couldn't do the BHP.
I have a 200cc Benelli that you can never put to neutral if your life depended on it, and my spine is practically pulverized from the shock absorbers. But my God does it make me smile. Must feel the same.
I agree with you guys in regards to the Himalayan, but the meteor and classic 350 are actually very high-quality bikes. And they’re not supposed to be fast. If you’re going to try one other Royal Enfield, make it the Classic 350. It has a beautiful old soul.
Yep... can not express how much fun my slow, lazy and beautiful Classic 350 is to ride and look at.
@@bikernate8902 At the age of 61, I’m actually thinking about getting a classic 350 for a relaxed ride across the country.
@@critterIMHO it will be the best decision you make for that type of riding. Honestly, I can't figure out how they are priced so inexpensively. If I am not riding it... I am sneaking into the garage just to stare at it. Literally a work of art.
@@bikernate8902 I’m curious about which colors you and Michael chose. There’s not a bad one in the bunch, but I’m leaning towards the Halcyon (blue) gray. And I like the Redditch models, but they are not available in the US.
My Classic 350 is Halcyon Black and My Interceptor is Sunset Strip.
I am a new rider. My first motorcycle is an Enfield Interceptor. I can do all the servicing on it myself. It has endless possibilities for me to modify it. I absolutely love it. If I'm not riding it, I'm looking on Ebay for parts for it!
Honestly it's about being on the road royal Enfield provides this cheaply simply and effectively and that's hard to beat for the common rider ! Great vid guys!
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Hey yammie just bought my own 2008 daytona 675 ! It's been my dream bike and you made it look super cool for me and I finally found a good one to get myself on!
The only problem my INT650 has given me is the connections between its electrical components.
I recommend to anyone with one of these bikes is to go through all of the relays, and connectors, and make sure they're clean, and make sure to use dielectric grease when re-connecting them. No problems since I've done this.
Isn't the scram 411 basically a modded Himalayan? To put it crudely.
The Meteor 350 (imo) is a great bike but I'm not sure it's for the American market. Here in Ireland and the UK the roads are much smaller, much twistier and far less expansive. I see videos from America where riders are in the "Twisties" and the roads are far wider than a standard national road here. So speeds of 80kmph to 100kmph is sufficient here (Ireland/UK) for a good ride as the next blind corner or hump is coming up fast. (Imo)
It just depends on were you are at in the united states but the roads usually are much wider than elsewhere. There's lots of tight turns on the country roads but the highways tend to be mostly straight. Also in Texas were they are at the speed limits are up to 75mph(120kph). Anything less than 40 BHP is going to be straining to do the speed limit.
@@cyclonebuzz8172 Yeah, when I've ridden the Meteor it's limit is about 70mph. Someone lighter, probably around 80kg, could do 75.
What's a little strange is that there are folks that have videos of this bike going up to 85ish but I can't see that being done without a complete ECU overhaul. The engine never feels strained so I think there's more to give but I suspect it's limited to extend reliability.
@@MentatOfDune I think your right it's probably got some kind of speed limiter. On some bikes they limit it to what ever the factory tire is rated for. My wife's Kawasaki Vulcan s was like that till we removed the restrictions. Of course we put some high speed rated tires on it at the same time. Doesn't tec or Hitchcock offer some kind of upgrades for those bikes? I saw one of the singles gains like 40% with a camshaft swap.
Royal Enfield sold 550k units in India alone in 2021 - in the midst of a pandemic ridden economy. These guys think the US market matters to RE. They make bikes for the world - and if its not EXACTLY what the US market wants (aka stupid power and torque) then so be it
Average speed limit of indian roads is 70kmph and its not because the law restricts the speed. its mainly because of the nature of roads and the traffic. if you ride the new classic 350 in indian road conditions, you are gonna love them. Indian road conditions have no use even for an RC 390.
If you like RE, own RE, want RE… That is obviously fine. But if someone doesn’t like, own, or want RE, that too is fine. Have confidence in your choices. It is unnecessary to seek validation of your fee fees from strangers on the internet and on TH-cam. If you like your RE, and someone out there hates it, I promise, you’ll be fine. And if you’re triggered that someone didn’t like and/or validate your purchasing decision, well then, life in this world will be harder for you, but you’ll still be fine.
Right then. Besides the gas turbine busa you pair need a "diesel bullet" for the other end of the spectra. Enjoy 150 mpg coal rolling umpety thumperty action.
The big question here is how about reliability through time...and not how fast the bike is.
Good apology. I have an '07 Ducati GT1000 and an '22 RE INT650. I love them both. A young buddy who likes the looks of the RE but dismissed it and was bummed when I took the Ducati and let him ride the RE when he needed to borrow a bike. He loved the ride and said he was surprised by pep and performance.
Bro, this video is basically these two reading the comment section. I bet I have seen "This bike has soul" about 230 times in every royal enfield video. Also, as a proud GT650 owner, Hell yeah. I accept your apology.
For me what I like about this bike is its heritage, it's history is just as British as as Triumph for a fraction of the price, it evokes that old school British spirit that comes from riding old school bikes like Triumph, BSA, and Norton
Hi guys , in a dealer here in Portugal told me that for the beginning of the next year will be a meteor 650 🙂.
Thanks for the video
Hear me out, the Royal Enfield 350's are on my shortlist for a commuter bike. Think of it as a scooter, but looks like a motorcycle, rides like a motorcycle, sounds like a motorcycle. Highest speed limit I hit is the 45mph, so 350 is plenty to get me there and back. Besides, my Boulevard doesn't like the cold mornings, where a RE is fuel injected.
I'm an RE simp, hugely influenced by amazing rides in India a few years ago. Loved my time with the Himalayan (even though I later didn't actually buy one). That said the old Bullet 350 is harrrrd work to ride, so we all have our tolerance levels. Much respect to those that went RTW on that beast.
I am excited to see what the Royal enfield hunter 350 looks like. Debut should happen beginning of august. Probably won't come to the states till spring next year though.
same here
Perhaps, you guys come over to India and see how motorcycling fits in in a typical daily life? Like Slidebean?
That would be fun…!
Yesterday, driving my way home from somewhere, my local BMW dealership just happened to be on my right. Stopped. These Royal Enfield things happened to be outside parked in the sun. Never even looked at them.
I started my biking journey on the int 650. As yammie rightly said, I am head over heels in love with it. For a beginner, it is definitely a fun, good sounding and quick bike. I have briefly ridden a bikes which are way more powerful and quicker than my 650, but I personally still feel a lot more comfortable in the 650 because it’s less intimidating and easier to ride. If you’re looking for a weekend getaway ride with some highways and mild twisties, then this bike got you covered.
It’s been a forgiving, fun and definitely a lovable bike so far.
PS: Currently rocking a custom gel seat and performance end cans by Powerage on my 650
I went from a DRZ400 SM to a Royal Enfield Classic 500, best decision I made. the DRZ was fast on small roads here in Malta, super fun to ride. But the Classic is the most fun commuter, makes me smile every day. a 30 second 0-60 makes me actually laugh while riding it, you feel like you're going all out and you aren't even breaking the speed limit whereas on the DRZ I always felt like I was going slower than the bike wanted
I was kind of expecting a on your knees begging for forgiveness type of apology but I guess this will do …🤷🏼♂️
I would love to see you try a Moto Guzzi after this.
Triumphs Bonneville line (Street Twin, T100, T120) and RE (350 Classics, Meteor 350, Interceptor, Himalayan) are underrated af in the US! For the same money you can get the cheapest HD, you can get multiple of these bikes and feel right at home!
As a 2022 Royal Enfield Himalayan owner, I appreciate this apology to Royal Enfield. However, they are still bashing the Himalayan, just like Hitler and Stalin would. Why does Spite have to act like Hitler and Yammie act like Stalin? No wonder they willingly rode the Ural, a Soviet made motorcycle copied from the German version from WWII. When will these two brutal dictators of motorcycle reviews be brought to justice?
LOL!
I mean these two Dictators hate small bore engine motorcycles and the people that love them. When will they forcefully pack us onto train cars and send us to camps?!?
those 350cc models are really perfect for our Indian road conditions where a healthy cruising speed is 80 and roads filled with potholes and all. In here those are the perfect machines.
These motorcycles seem dog slow to you but they’re actually over powered on Indian roads. I bet you a fine buck you guys wouldn’t last 10 minutes on an Indian city road with all your “riding skills”
So easy to tinker on, so many possible mods. Can't wait to see all you do with it. Scramble that sh**!!!
Check out SARGE 'S project hare scramble
Thanks for the positive response from an INT650 Owner
Another use case I can see smaller RE filling would be to older Harley/Indian riders who just don't want to deal with a heavy bike anymore. They seem to move to trikes when they could probably get another 5 years on a smaller classic.
i have ridden the old himalayan and the new one that came out this year, man the difference is night and day! they went ahead and chaneged every single thing about the bike fs
I've owned lots of motorcycles in my life, but somehow this thing just pushes the FUN button every time. Had it for 3-4 weeks and already installed S&S cans, K&N, Renthal Ultralows, bar end mirrors, levers... it's a canvas. When I look at it, I smile.
Thoughts-
Yammie should take a Himalayan up Pike's Peak.
Spite should take a Meteor or Classic to Sturgis.
Take both downtown like you did with the GT and see what people think they cost, brand impression, etc.
Ykw, video series idea: you go to other countries and see how motorcycles are used and what makes a manufacturer designs the way it is. It would be really insigntful
What master cylinder did you replace it with? How did it help? I want one!
I watched dozens of RE Himalayan videos before buying my 2021 Himalayan. I liked the looks, the size and of course the low price. After waiting 10 weeks to get the Himalayan back from the service department, I’ve soured on Royal Enfield. Maybe if I’d bought the Interceptor, I’d feel differently. I can’t write another check to RE.
Apology video 🤣 classic. Cheers dudes! 🍻
If it puts a smile on your face, it's a good bike.
I don’t consider RE is a notion but what I believe and what I felt its an art and creation of an artist who portrays Galileo and gave a life inside the heart of every motorcycle 🌹
The Meteor 350 looks like a proper motorcycle. For commuting on local roads with minimal cut throat heavy highway traffic it should be great. It's a great first bike. This is what bikes used to look like when I was a kid in the 60s. I love what Royal Enfield is doing. Id love to see therm make a V twin like that custom maker was creating from the larger 500cc singles. A kick starter, awesome! Then again my first bikes were late 60s triumph and BSA twins with about the same HP and torque of the Enfield. ASIDE FOR MISSING THE AMAL CARBS AND A KICKSTARTER THESE BIKES ARE AWESOME. BRING BACK THE MAGNIFICENT MAGNETO (from my 59) AND I WOULD FALL HEAD OVER HEELS IN LOVE!
Someone mentioned it below, but yall need to go to India and tour the factory or explore motorcycle culture there! SnS makes great parts for REs but also there are a TON of tuners in Malaysia, India, Thailand and other SEA countries that make parts for RE. The build culture is strong.