This entire thing is based on the false premise that the Royal Enfield is just a beginner bike. Most of the folks I run into that ride them have been riding longer than Yammie has been alive.
Hey Yam, glad you had fun giving the bike a rip around town, and thanks for showing it on your channel! Nobody’s ever ridden it other than myself, so it’s pretty awesome getting to see it as a spectator. 🏍️
@@Legotruck82 last I checked there were only two sporty options available: Conti and Pirelli. I’d probably go with the Pirellis again, they both feel nice but I think the Pirellis have a better profile. I only upgraded because I got a fat bolt in one of the tires. :/
@@Persian-Immortal Thanks! All together it was like $3200~ for the suspension and the Brembo master. That made the biggest difference. The rest is just cosmetic stuff really. I saved a bunch of money by doing the installs and all that myself. I don’t count the tires since they’re something I had to replace anyway hah.
@MotoRings wow, I think because you did the work yourself, you mostly paid just for parts. Otherwise, it would have cost you a lot more. Would you consider the Bore 865 mod of the bike?
Lmao u’ll be fine just behave. 20 mt09 also my first bike just respect the bike. About mods do what u want, if it doesn’t make u happy why even own it? Uk what i mean?🤝🏽
@@theodorecalkins4212 agreed, i never owned my own bike until last year. I rode friends dirt bikes and what not so i was familiar with a bike. Now another reason why i went with a practically “brand new” 2020 MT was bc of different TC modes and power modes. Kept that bad boy on. TC2 and mode B for the first month or so to not i mostly ride TC1 mode A with a Vcyclenut tune and full akra🤝🏽
Bold move, Sir. Respect the throttle on that thing and I'd suggest taking some advanced riding lessons, I went to trackdays and it massively improved my skills and reaction. I recently saw a guy trash his GSXR on the street by grabbing the front brake too hard on an emergency situation and flipping over as a result. You want to be ready for every situation out there, it just takes one mistake to mess your shit up pretty good.
I think it makes sense with bolt on mods. Boring a 650 to a 865? Just buy a 900 triumph. But parts that can be removed and sold on, that makes sense to me. Enfield twins are a great blank canvas for modification. Free flow exhaust headers and cans made a big difference to my interceptor.
mate i bored out my GPZ 750 in the 80's {810cc}, and due to its lighter weight and better handling , it was far better than the bigger heavier bikes to ride, and almost everywhere faster. We will modify what we want for our own reasons, you can have your Triumph, I'll continue modifying what I want, you obviously don't understand...
I did similar mods to my continental, plus the 865. I think im all in about 11k-ish including the bike and fees (i got it tax free). It was absolutely with out a doubt worth it. That 865 is a game changer on this bike.
Oh hey, my first bike! My mods so far: replaced the clutch levers, added a fork extender from Cooper motors in the UK so I could raise the clip on bars above the triple tree (it's so much more comfortable), and added a throttle lock. I want to add: -A different seat -roll bars -not stock tires -fly/Windscreen
Why buy the GT if you're going to raise the handlebars over the yoke? Why not just buy an Interceptor with normal bars and clamps and just swap the bars for a height you prefer?
@Aaron Leverton: Because it is MY bike, I will do whatever I want with it, and I won't justify doing what is best for my riding experience to you. Unless you want to buy me a different bike, keep your opinion to yourself.
I don't know why you insist on calling the Enfield a beginner bike . It's just a bike that anyone can enjoy. There is no such thing as a beginner bike. If you enjoy riding a Rebel 250 it's ok. It's just a small displacement bike you enjoy. I've been riding 57 years and spent 34 years in the motorcycle business. There is no such thing as a beginner bike !
He likely has a larger demographic of viewers that fall into the "new rider" category, so it makes it more approachable to them. I'm getting close to 60 I own an Interceptor. I've still own a R1200GS. I've had an UltraClassic, R1200RT along with other motorcycles. My interceptor has gotten more questions and comments from people than any other bike I've owned. I do more city commuting on it than the GS. It's a good general purpose bike that's a pleasure to ride anyone and my wife won't let me sell it or give it to my son. I've prolly got more mods on my bike than most people. It's a great platform to upgrade and modest updates are way less expensive.
Yep, not trying to go to the negative attitude, but pretty much these days its a liter bike or a beginner bike ha ha, nothing in between🤣. Sence back when bikes really took off into the 50's 60's and 70's for the longest time a bike like a tiger 500 was a big boy bike, now they must have 100+ HP if not, now it's relegated to "beginner bike". I get it, i also love me some horsepower/torque BUT the liter bikes "make" you ride fast, 120mph on a liter sportbike? the machine laughs at you and says "more please", better have a fat wallet when the tickets start coming your way, just sayin.... 🤷♂ -Cheers
@@mikein60fps30 "Yep, not trying to go to the negative attitude, but pretty much these days its a liter bike or a beginner bike ha ha" Only in America mate....
@@MickH60 Yes this. I'm on my Trident 660, its got enough power when i need it to move, and small/nimble for cutting lanes when needed. I try to ignore the "marketing" best i can, but its always there; well your happy now BUT you can spend more and have something even better!. O my, marketing is just evil😆. Best of luck
Talking suspension. I work at a dealer in parts. One of the 1st things I ask when people come in wanting new tires is what is it doing that you want/don't want it to do? A lot of the times they just want to get the OEM cheap rubber off it, or better wet weather handling. Which are things that tires will solve. Though if it's not, I'll ask have you set the sag for your weight? What about rebound and compression, if your bike has that? They usually just stare and say what now? I like my pants where they are. I tell them I'd start there. I'll sell you $600 worth of Road 6's or Diablo Rosso's all day, but that will only solve so much of the problem you have. Most people never think about their suspension, and how it effects how the bike feels.
I've had a bunch of motorcycles over my life, and still have a couple. Vespas, Lambrettas, Ducatis, BMWs and Harleys, and I've modded the living sh*t out of every one of them. Some multiple times.That's a big part of the fun for me. I don't know or care how much I've spent but I don't drink or smoke, I've neer taken out a loan for any of it, and I've never owned a car in my life, so I'm going to say that (for me at least) it's still a cheap hobby, and well-worth it, irrespective of the numbers :) That RE is fantastic, good for him.
Agree on most points - except that you insist on calling this a beginner bike. I don’t see why it has to be! One can live with a bike like this a very long time without feeling the need to get something bigger or faster.
I agree the experience of the modification is worth it if you are into that type of thing. Sometimes a few modifications like I did to me Thruxton R can make a big difference and extend the ownership time and save the money otherwise spent on a new bike. After all the sales tax, freight, and set-up etc fees on a new bike will purchase a lot of great modifications.
It’s kinda like purchasing a new guitar. If you think of it as a keeper and put some nice strings on it, put in some nicer pickups, have the guitar tuned up and polish the frets, then your going to want to play it more as it becomes a better instrument. I like this build, thanks for the vid. Beautiful bike.
The biggest factor in the bike feeling slow from side to side is probably the 18 inch wheels. Larger, steel spoked wheels mean more mass further away from the center of the hub, which means more inertia, which resists change in direction.
I don't know man. Before i bought the interceptor 650, the first enfield i test drove was the continental. Man it is resisting the turn but the interceptor had none of that. Oh btw i have a softail bobber build with 18 inch rim and 180mm width tire. With a very long wheel base, that bike can still out flick the conti from side to side and I was riding that cruiser like a sports bike. It has no resistance whatsoever. I can just bank as hard as I can and then quickly bank on the other side for the next corner. If I'm gonna compare the resisting force of the conti, it's like riding a 240mm+ width rear tire.
I've always felt that if you have certainty that you'll keep the bike for a while it is worth modding out, but also if you are willing and able to accept that you will certainly lose most of that money if you try to sell it. I've done little over 3k on my not beginner bike, over the last few years and will keep it forever. Thought at the time that I would want to give it up after mods, but no. It's just perfect and fun to me now.
These bikes are quite nice stock. My mods were purely cos I love to tinker and customise. Tail tidy, slip ons, booster plug, fly screen, adjustable levers, custom decals on the seatcowlings( I had both). Repositioning of bars, levers etc to suit myself. Oh, and 1 tooth taller on the front sprocket, an essential mod I feel, surprising how much difference it made. I only sold it after 3 years because I knew that I was starting to court disaster pushing harder and harder every ride. I’m too old now to heal the way I used to.
Hi Steve. Two questions; 1. What did the 1 tooth larger front sprocket do for you and the bike? 2. Do you remember what brand of adjustable levers you purchased? Thanks for any info!
@@51jjm generic levers, short style for the GT, from Hitchcocks. Slightly taller gearing, slightly longer in each gear, really improved the too- short 1st gear, put 2 nd and third in better spacings. Only slightly , but it made a nice difference. Hardly shifted out of 2nd and 3rd in sporty riding. It was so good , and the engine/ clutches took it so well, that I was toying with going down 2 teeth on the rear( no room left in the casing to go any bigger on the front)
Gorgeous bike, you looked good on it. After 26 years on LM3 Guzzi's and 10 years without a bike, along came the Continental GT. Without a doubt, the best looker in the Cafe Racer department. Bought one, love her. My mods, air filter, Verex ful exhaust, much freer flowing headers than original and truckloads noisier. Bar end mirrors, of course, and got my hands down near my knees with Paolo Tarozzi clip ons set low and wide. She's now clocked up 44,000 trouble free k's. Future mods, perhaps high comp pistons, certainly suspension upgrade, taller gearing on front sprocket, and get my feet a bit further back. Stev
just got mine ventura storm conti 650 a few weeks ago. in love with it! for now, only bar end mirrors, seat cowl and mud guards off. next, round turn and rear lights and leather grips. cosmetics i know. better tires and improved breathing dna or k&n stuff are a must, tho (maybe exhaust too)... especially those oem tires. nice rides for you all!
Nice to see someone modifying a bike with a bit of thought. Not just trying to slap on horsepower and hope for the best. The owner has made the bike ride, stop and corner much better than RE did, which does cost money. Thats why RE didn't do these things themselves.
Just got served this video randomly by YT, thought the area was familiar and then saw Last Stand Brewing, RIP! Love the RE, currently working on some stage 1 mods for my gt as well.
Current mods on my GT- Single seat w/cowling MK Designs bobber exhaust RE tinted flyscreen Planned mods- MK Designs chop and bolt brake/tail lights Magura master cylinders brake/clutch Update suspension (unsure of which I'll go with) Brake rotors/pads (Brembo comes to mind, but I've heard good things about Nissin) Tires will get swapped out when they wear out, but once all's said and done, it should be a really fun ride.
Thanks Yam, you've convinced me! I done been fixed! Seriously, tho', I've been eyeing a full cartridge insert goes bang into my stock forks. Probably work out to a couple grand, but I just spent about six and a half grand on an engine rebuild. If there's one complaint I'd have about the old thing, it's always been the Stock Old Kwaka Dive, you even touch the brake. Yep. That's about the last thing, for awhile at least!
I am a firm believer in mods that makes the bike a better ride overall , that way you and your ride stick longer together , fun is the essence of it all , your remarks on the ride difference are spot on and clearly state the enjoyment of this not expensive bike . It is not a racer nor a full bore sports bike , rather a fun bike to ride for the money , its reliable well built and gives you an honest handling bike
And that's exactly howbthe marketed it. It's an honest bike in avway that's rare nowadays, and a great canvas for somebody to ride large. That and the cipons. I got them on my Zephyr. Fork cartridge setup next!
would love you to review a continential with those suspension mods and the 860 big bore kit on it, love my Rocker Red GT650, mines mostly stock, only the essential modes, ie 2-into-1 exhaust by Tec (Newcastle, UK), high flow air filter, bar end mirrors, sometimes I even find it a touch loud, but want the 2-1 for weight saving and the way you can see the left side of the engine so nicely
Couldn’t agree more the added power and as well as doing a gear ratio change like I did with the rs tech belt kit really makes it so much more fun in every situation
I love working on my GT :) I’ve got the yss fully adjustable front forks and rear springs, rs tech belt drive, s&s 865 kit and cam, sc project full exhaust, dna air filter, powertronic, Barnett clutch, sintered pads, jd customs tail kit and fairing I powder coated the levers, pegs, shifters fender bracket, head light brackets and all the manifold and heel covers, motone indicators and a few more little cosmetic bits.
Hey yamm, got back to riding after 30 years and went for a begginer bike (former squid), ended up with what I thought was a stock cruiser, the vulcan 900 custom, turns out it has hyper intake, v&h exhaust, fuel commander, and front and back Baron pulleys, wish I could dyno it.
Congratulations on the good score! I only had two bikes, but did 60K miles on the first, about half that on the second. I got my lady's Gladius, put abut 17 thou on that, but can't wait to get my four cylinder back on the blacktop. Once you've bitten the bullet and spent the cash, you can't afford to sell, you might as well keep going. I've already spent more than it'll ever be worth, so might as well keep going and set it up nicely .
I did the tires, red rooster exhaust, intake filter. Just the tires made a huge difference on drivability. Makes the bike stable at 90 mph for freeway use. I spent about $1,000 dollars on mods including bar end mirrors of course. I have a Panigale V2 and a Diavel V4 and I ride my GT 650 about 25 % of the time as it is a really fun bike to ride.
@yammienoob I’ve got the ohlin suspension front and rear, plus a booster plug and the autologue reck fairing and nuke exhaust on my conti 650. Gotta say the biggest improvement was front suspension. Next mod is the master cylinder and brakes
I'm an experienced rider that's used to liter bikes but I'm getting old (42) and I'm looking at buying a customized cafe interceptor. They really do look so good for those that miss the old cafe style.
Honest. Not pretending to be something it's not. And what they are are a great town bike that'll do a nice ride anywhere on any roads. Priced to be improved upon. When they launched the 650 twins they had a few shops customize them in various directions. Made them accessible for the average person to actually afford a nice bike with a great frame and fun little motor. What a great starting point!
I've had a lot of fun with my interceptor. It's been a gradual thing over the last 4 years, and i know it wild have been cheaper to buy a different bigger bike... but i love my bike. - TEC 2-2 full exhaust - DNA air filter - BT46 tires - S&S cam - Rekluse clutch - 865 big bore - Power Commander + new map - front/ rear YSS suspension - LED headlight and indicators - Halcyon bar end mirrors - Givi hard bags - Sahara seat - 2" bar risers - Hula girl dancing on my master cylinder The next swap is going to be the brakes.
Interesting to note the observation about the bike being slow to turn in because of the short clip-on bars. Try counter-steering to get the bike to drop over quicker. It will work regardless of the bar width.
I had a RE 650 interceptor and put $1500 extra into it then traded it in for a triumph T120. The royals are great bikes for the price but it’s no comparison to my Triumph in fit, finish, performance.
That is a really good looking bike. Too bad Triumph can't make anything that looks that good. 75 HP sounds awfully tempting -- how much would that cost?
Assuming you mean the big bore kit it's more like 2-3k all in for all supporting mods (big bore kit, high comp pistons, upgraded clutch, upgraded cam). It definitely lands close to thruxton money for similar power
He's probably getting to it.the better you make it the better it gets to be, and there's always something to be done (or re-done, if it's a 2nd hander). But you get a bike that suits you, and there's a pride in doing it! Power mods? Yeah, why not, but pretty near the end of the list if you have a nice stock engine and a bike that handles? I had to get a stock rebuild 'cause I couldn't afford to do nice things to it. Getting too nice to part with now...
I forgot to mention I have the DNA filer on there and it really helped with the throttle response. I’ve been hesitant to put headers on the bike though, because it’s pretty dang loud just with the just Zard cans
@@ride_the_wind No not yet, I was kinda saving anything power/fueling related until after I got the suspension and touch points sorted out. It's a long story, but in short, my biggest grief with the bike while owning it was not really the power (I have other bikes). I just hated the brake feel, the wobbly levers, and the very soft/springy suspension up front. My thoughts were, well if I can't make it nice to ride with 50hp, why would I want to ride it with 75-80hp with all the engine mods available for it? So I think it's worth exploring eventually, I've just got my hands full with a 2002 SV650 that I'm trying to fix up.
In your opinion, is there a motorcycle from RE or any other brand that isn't super high speed or high CCs that performs super well handling and can take turns like no other? Something that hugs the road and can whip corners. Kind of like the motorcycle version of a Subaru BRZ?
@@ErelasInglor they are lightweight and momentum bikes. Any of those small displacement sport bikes like the R3 and CBR500R would be like that too. Same as a BRZ or 86, not fast but good enough to carry a lot of speed
How tf do you spend $6k in upgrades on a Royal Enfield and NOT at least get a cam and power commander with tune. Not a single engine upgrade. That just seems insane to me.
He mentioned in another comment that his complaints with the bike weren't power related but the bad brakes and suspension. He said if it felt like crap at 50hp why would he want to ride it with 75hp. He's going to do the full 865 kit eventually
@@fastec5 I own an Interceptor. Upgraded suspension cost me $800 front & rear. Upgraded brake pads were like $50. The OEM master cylinder works fine. I'm not knocking him or anything, just saying a cam is like $150, a power commander around $400. Seems crazy to do all he did and not even touch the easiest/cheapest performance upgrades.
I just bought one and can’t walk past it without making another mod. The engine and frame are superb, accessories are inexpensive on eBay. It would be rare to see this as a first bike, most are aging riders like myself (I’m 75).
You can get a big bore kit to turn your 350cc enfiled into a 500. I'm not sure If it's worth the cost on the j series engine. Just buy an interceptor it would be cheaper
I disagree, I honestly think the value is there. If you're buying a $13,000 HD Sportster 883 and then putting $3,000 to make it actually ride-able and then another $8,000 in performance parts then that's a waste but you can get this Royal Enfield for around $5,500-$5,000 new or $3,500-$4,500 used put $3,000 in modifications into it and you're still way under the cost of a base Sportster Or a Bonneville and you have much better performance parts then you would get on any of those other bikes.
@@motorings735 Nice! If that's your GT it's badass! I figured it was a trade off on functionality, but it looks so clean! Thanks for letting me know what you used
Seems like you could get a faster bike for less money than the combined bike and mods, but I'm also looking at it from a "you want a faster bike" perspective and not a "I love my first bike I just want it to have more cowbell" perspective
Great video Yamm!! I've had my Continental for about 18 months, first bike at 48yrs old. It's everything I wanted from my first machine and I'm really happy with it in it's stock form, but even as a novice rider I'm aware of it's limitations. If I do go the modification route my intended approach would be very similar to @motorings735 (Great job dude!!), starting with the tyres and probably ending eventually with the 865. You're reaction to riding this bike has just answered the 'is it worth it" question I'd been asking myself.
I'm looking at 2nd-hand Re650's and I would ONLY buy one with the suspension-mods . It changes these bikes so-much and only adds to the fun-factor they are famous-for . I would also upgrade the-engine but only with higher-comp pistons , cams and very mild-porting plus Power-Commander... rather than the 865-kit. Mid-60's HP is plenty of fun and arguably all you need on a bike like this , 865 is too-much of a Wheelie-Monster and could kill The-buzz of what this bike is...for me at-least and that is what it is really-about ; It's whatever we want/need in a bike to make it that much more special to the-owner . 55-yrs riding.. Dave nz
Hi, i got my RE GT 650 9 months ago and i have issues with the bike. The bike is struggling to cross the 3000rpm mark and if it crosses, it vibrates too much. I feel uneasy to ride it and dont like the condition of the bike. Yes, i have the spark plug checked but it did not help. Please help!
This bike is NOT about specs, but about the enjoyment of riding something modern & reliable but that looks like a restored classic bike. If you look at it like that, then you have saved yourself a TON of money and headache by NOT buying an old 60's and paying 10's of thousands to a custom shop to restore it. Whether it was worth it is not for us to judge. It's for the bike owner to judge. I can say this without being some keyboard warrior because I just had mine customised and I spent around the same money doing it. Go look up road tests of the FuelFX for this bike. It's a very affordable way to add a bit of oomph into this bike, but some don't feel the difference. It's subtle.
I had a 99 sv650 as my first bike and blew up the front piston… plan on boring it out and making it a 8 or 900🤣but I did go buy a cbr500 as my everyday commuter and to stay out of trouble, love it.
Funny how Enfield is the oldest bike company, along with Indian, but its design and character sounds like a Triumph? Its actually the other way around. This tells how many places Triumph did right and how badly Enfield failed. Hope now this new Enfield revamp does justice to its legacy.
@Ed Zick I'd agree I had a gsxr1100m with a 1277 high comp motor in it, drag cams oversized valves flowed with mikuni flat slides and nitrous. That gave returns on the investment
The SV isn't even close to as fast as people say so I'd say go for it. I always heard they were wheelie monsters and blah blah but then I rode one and I raced one on my Magna and it didn't impress me at all lol.
I have this bike and have spent a good bit on mods as well. I’m trying not to think about it. I have done: Power commander Stage 2 intake Bridgestone Battlax Free flowing exhaust from Hitchcocks Zard Slip ons Ohlins rear suspsension MK Designs Shorty Tail Kit Adjustable levers
The only expensive mods I put on the GT650 were the SS race exhausts, k&n air filter, and powertronic ECU. Also added preload adjustable dampers on the front which made it more stable and prevented it from diving too much. Also EBC sintered brake pads for extra bite! The yss/ohlins suspensions are too expensive ($800) and not worth the price. The preload adjusters did 70% of the job (for diving part) for $50.
people who tinker are going to tinker. That said... never buy a project bike as a first bike. Always have something that rides, even if you are one who loves to build - as I do.
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i looked up its 9$ a month and 8 cents a mile for mid tier, would save me prolly 300$ so imma do it
I dare you to take busa and race me on this continental (stock) on indian road, shut up with your beginner bike rant.
Riding on empty roads just giving throttle doesn't make you pro, EOD its not just the bike that makes anyone beginner.
This entire thing is based on the false premise that the Royal Enfield is just a beginner bike. Most of the folks I run into that ride them have been riding longer than Yammie has been alive.
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It's almost as if a bike has accessibility and engagement that transcends a spec sheet or comparisons to other bikes. Shock.
correct, also theres riders like me that upgraded downwards, 5 yrs ago from a kawa z750 to a suzuki sv650 today with a gt650
Hey Yam, glad you had fun giving the bike a rip around town, and thanks for showing it on your channel! Nobody’s ever ridden it other than myself, so it’s pretty awesome getting to see it as a spectator. 🏍️
did you find it hard getting performance tyres with the factory tubed rims? Looking at upgrading my tyres when the CEATs wear out
@@Legotruck82 last I checked there were only two sporty options available: Conti and Pirelli. I’d probably go with the Pirellis again, they both feel nice but I think the Pirellis have a better profile. I only upgraded because I got a fat bolt in one of the tires. :/
I think the money you spent on the bike is definitely worth it.
@@Persian-Immortal Thanks! All together it was like $3200~ for the suspension and the Brembo master. That made the biggest difference. The rest is just cosmetic stuff really. I saved a bunch of money by doing the installs and all that myself. I don’t count the tires since they’re something I had to replace anyway hah.
@MotoRings wow, I think because you did the work yourself, you mostly paid just for parts. Otherwise, it would have cost you a lot more.
Would you consider the Bore 865 mod of the bike?
Me, an RE rider: "I would never spend that much on my RE Interceptor."
Sees the fork mods: "That is money well-spent."
2 of us Brother , my Interceptor is sweet to tide from standard .
Lol me too, was thinking the same thing!
Bought a Yamaha MT-09 as my first bike.... I am not in danger yammie, I am the danger. That and im also probably in danger
Lmao u’ll be fine just behave. 20 mt09 also my first bike just respect the bike. About mods do what u want, if it doesn’t make u happy why even own it? Uk what i mean?🤝🏽
should have started on a turbo busa
I've got 40+years and 20k+ miles per year I can feel safe in saying TCS2 & Dmode2 will help keep you from making a bunch of mistakes.
@@theodorecalkins4212 agreed, i never owned my own bike until last year. I rode friends dirt bikes and what not so i was familiar with a bike. Now another reason why i went with a practically “brand new” 2020 MT was bc of different TC modes and power modes. Kept that bad boy on. TC2 and mode B for the first month or so to not i mostly ride TC1 mode A with a Vcyclenut tune and full akra🤝🏽
Bold move, Sir. Respect the throttle on that thing and I'd suggest taking some advanced riding lessons, I went to trackdays and it massively improved my skills and reaction. I recently saw a guy trash his GSXR on the street by grabbing the front brake too hard on an emergency situation and flipping over as a result. You want to be ready for every situation out there, it just takes one mistake to mess your shit up pretty good.
I think it makes sense with bolt on mods. Boring a 650 to a 865? Just buy a 900 triumph. But parts that can be removed and sold on, that makes sense to me. Enfield twins are a great blank canvas for modification. Free flow exhaust headers and cans made a big difference to my interceptor.
I believe there is a British shop that sells said size bore kit already, might find the youtube video about it.
@@01luriaz There is a British Shop that does the 865 Modification on TH-cam .....
Well i like the frame and look of gt better 🚶
You’re propably talking about Hitchcock motorcycles. The leading UK parts supplyer for classic and new Royal Enfields.
mate i bored out my GPZ 750 in the 80's {810cc}, and due to its lighter weight and better handling , it was far better than the bigger heavier bikes to ride, and almost everywhere faster. We will modify what we want for our own reasons, you can have your Triumph, I'll continue modifying what I want, you obviously don't understand...
I did similar mods to my continental, plus the 865. I think im all in about 11k-ish including the bike and fees (i got it tax free). It was absolutely with out a doubt worth it. That 865 is a game changer on this bike.
Seems like the most important one after suspension... but I haven't ridden one.
Oh hey, my first bike! My mods so far: replaced the clutch levers, added a fork extender from Cooper motors in the UK so I could raise the clip on bars above the triple tree (it's so much more comfortable), and added a throttle lock.
I want to add:
-A different seat
-roll bars
-not stock tires
-fly/Windscreen
I just picked up a 2023 GSX S1000 myself. Not my first bike but my first NEW bike. Be safe!
Why buy the GT if you're going to raise the handlebars over the yoke? Why not just buy an Interceptor with normal bars and clamps and just swap the bars for a height you prefer?
@Aaron Leverton: Because it is MY bike, I will do whatever I want with it, and I won't justify doing what is best for my riding experience to you.
Unless you want to buy me a different bike, keep your opinion to yourself.
@@aaronleverton4221 why buy ab interceptor if you can buy a used Honda civic and stay dry in the rain ?
@@ralfybaby Why buy a house if you can camp in a tent?
I don't know why you insist on calling the Enfield a beginner bike . It's just a bike that anyone can enjoy. There is no such thing as a beginner bike. If you enjoy riding a Rebel 250 it's ok. It's just a small displacement bike you enjoy. I've been riding 57 years and spent 34 years in the motorcycle business. There is no such thing as a beginner bike !
He likely has a larger demographic of viewers that fall into the "new rider" category, so it makes it more approachable to them. I'm getting close to 60 I own an Interceptor. I've still own a R1200GS. I've had an UltraClassic, R1200RT along with other motorcycles. My interceptor has gotten more questions and comments from people than any other bike I've owned. I do more city commuting on it than the GS. It's a good general purpose bike that's a pleasure to ride anyone and my wife won't let me sell it or give it to my son. I've prolly got more mods on my bike than most people. It's a great platform to upgrade and modest updates are way less expensive.
Yep, not trying to go to the negative attitude, but pretty much these days its a liter bike or a beginner bike ha ha, nothing in between🤣. Sence back when bikes really took off into the 50's 60's and 70's for the longest time a bike like a tiger 500 was a big boy bike, now they must have 100+ HP if not, now it's relegated to "beginner bike". I get it, i also love me some horsepower/torque BUT the liter bikes "make" you ride fast, 120mph on a liter sportbike? the machine laughs at you and says "more please", better have a fat wallet when the tickets start coming your way, just sayin.... 🤷♂ -Cheers
@@mikein60fps30 "Yep, not trying to go to the negative attitude, but pretty much these days its a liter bike or a beginner bike ha ha"
Only in America mate....
@@MickH60 Yes this. I'm on my Trident 660, its got enough power when i need it to move, and small/nimble for cutting lanes when needed. I try to ignore the "marketing" best i can, but its always there; well your happy now BUT you can spend more and have something even better!. O my, marketing is just evil😆. Best of luck
This is one of my favorite videos I’ve seen from Yammie Noob. I love seeing content like this!
Talking suspension. I work at a dealer in parts. One of the 1st things I ask when people come in wanting new tires is what is it doing that you want/don't want it to do? A lot of the times they just want to get the OEM cheap rubber off it, or better wet weather handling. Which are things that tires will solve. Though if it's not, I'll ask have you set the sag for your weight? What about rebound and compression, if your bike has that? They usually just stare and say what now? I like my pants where they are. I tell them I'd start there. I'll sell you $600 worth of Road 6's or Diablo Rosso's all day, but that will only solve so much of the problem you have.
Most people never think about their suspension, and how it effects how the bike feels.
100% correct
I got the same bike couldnt find a single guide on how to adjust preload and calculating sag..for the stock rear suspension
I've had a bunch of motorcycles over my life, and still have a couple. Vespas, Lambrettas, Ducatis, BMWs and Harleys, and I've modded the living sh*t out of every one of them. Some multiple times.That's a big part of the fun for me. I don't know or care how much I've spent but I don't drink or smoke, I've neer taken out a loan for any of it, and I've never owned a car in my life, so I'm going to say that (for me at least) it's still a cheap hobby, and well-worth it, irrespective of the numbers :)
That RE is fantastic, good for him.
Agree on most points - except that you insist on calling this a beginner bike. I don’t see why it has to be! One can live with a bike like this a very long time without feeling the need to get something bigger or faster.
Oh yes. Did 60+ K miles on my old cx500.
I agree the experience of the modification is worth it if you are into that type of thing. Sometimes a few modifications like I did to me Thruxton R can make a big difference and extend the ownership time and save the money otherwise spent on a new bike. After all the sales tax, freight, and set-up etc fees on a new bike will purchase a lot of great modifications.
Great point! But then I've just sunk a lotta $ into my 32yo 750, so I may be a tad biased in yr favour...
It’s kinda like purchasing a new guitar. If you think of it as a keeper and put some nice strings on it, put in some nicer pickups, have the guitar tuned up and polish the frets, then your going to want to play it more as it becomes a better instrument. I like this build, thanks for the vid. Beautiful bike.
The biggest factor in the bike feeling slow from side to side is probably the 18 inch wheels. Larger, steel spoked wheels mean more mass further away from the center of the hub, which means more inertia, which resists change in direction.
I don't know man. Before i bought the interceptor 650, the first enfield i test drove was the continental. Man it is resisting the turn but the interceptor had none of that. Oh btw i have a softail bobber build with 18 inch rim and 180mm width tire. With a very long wheel base, that bike can still out flick the conti from side to side and I was riding that cruiser like a sports bike. It has no resistance whatsoever. I can just bank as hard as I can and then quickly bank on the other side for the next corner. If I'm gonna compare the resisting force of the conti, it's like riding a 240mm+ width rear tire.
In India they are now being produced with alloys also . Should make it to other markets shortly
@@rangerswing that's kinda exciting, it will make them look and handle way more aggressively. I look forward to seeing them in the US
I love the sound coming out of those pipes.
I've always felt that if you have certainty that you'll keep the bike for a while it is worth modding out, but also if you are willing and able to accept that you will certainly lose most of that money if you try to sell it. I've done little over 3k on my not beginner bike, over the last few years and will keep it forever. Thought at the time that I would want to give it up after mods, but no. It's just perfect and fun to me now.
Glad you're satisfied.
Just don't ride anybody else's bike, it'll make you question your own lol
These bikes are quite nice stock. My mods were purely cos I love to tinker and customise. Tail tidy, slip ons, booster plug, fly screen, adjustable levers, custom decals on the seatcowlings( I had both). Repositioning of bars, levers etc to suit myself. Oh, and 1 tooth taller on the front sprocket, an essential mod I feel, surprising how much difference it made. I only sold it after 3 years because I knew that I was starting to court disaster pushing harder and harder every ride. I’m too old now to heal the way I used to.
Hi Steve. Two questions; 1. What did the 1 tooth larger front sprocket do for you and the bike? 2. Do you remember what brand of adjustable levers you purchased? Thanks for any info!
@@51jjm generic levers, short style for the GT, from Hitchcocks. Slightly taller gearing, slightly longer in each gear, really improved the too- short 1st gear, put 2 nd and third in better spacings. Only slightly , but it made a nice difference. Hardly shifted out of 2nd and 3rd in sporty riding. It was so good , and the engine/ clutches took it so well, that I was toying with going down 2 teeth on the rear( no room left in the casing to go any bigger on the front)
Gorgeous bike, you looked good on it.
After 26 years on LM3 Guzzi's and 10 years without a bike, along came the Continental GT. Without a doubt, the best looker in the Cafe Racer department. Bought one, love her.
My mods, air filter, Verex ful exhaust, much freer flowing headers than original and truckloads noisier. Bar end mirrors, of course, and got my hands down near my knees with Paolo Tarozzi clip ons set low and wide.
She's now clocked up 44,000 trouble free k's.
Future mods, perhaps high comp pistons, certainly suspension upgrade, taller gearing on front sprocket, and get my feet a bit further back.
Stev
just got mine ventura storm conti 650 a few weeks ago. in love with it! for now, only bar end mirrors, seat cowl and mud guards off. next, round turn and rear lights and leather grips. cosmetics i know. better tires and improved breathing dna or k&n stuff are a must, tho (maybe exhaust too)... especially those oem tires. nice rides for you all!
These bikes are like clean canvas, do whatever you want to do with it !
Royal Enfield are fun there the kind of bike you will keep as 2nd bike when you do want something bigger.
Nice to see someone modifying a bike with a bit of thought. Not just trying to slap on horsepower and hope for the best. The owner has made the bike ride, stop and corner much better than RE did, which does cost money. Thats why RE didn't do these things themselves.
Just got served this video randomly by YT, thought the area was familiar and then saw Last Stand Brewing, RIP! Love the RE, currently working on some stage 1 mods for my gt as well.
R.E., looks good, still sounds relatively low compression, which is sweet and long lasting:
Tks. much.
Current mods on my GT-
Single seat w/cowling
MK Designs bobber exhaust
RE tinted flyscreen
Planned mods-
MK Designs chop and bolt brake/tail lights
Magura master cylinders brake/clutch
Update suspension (unsure of which I'll go with)
Brake rotors/pads (Brembo comes to mind, but I've heard good things about Nissin)
Tires will get swapped out when they wear out, but once all's said and done, it should be a really fun ride.
Thanks Yam, you've convinced me! I done been fixed! Seriously, tho', I've been eyeing a full cartridge insert goes bang into my stock forks. Probably work out to a couple grand, but I just spent about six and a half grand on an engine rebuild. If there's one complaint I'd have about the old thing, it's always been the Stock Old Kwaka Dive, you even touch the brake. Yep. That's about the last thing, for awhile at least!
I am a firm believer in mods that makes the bike a better ride overall , that way you and your ride stick longer together , fun is the essence of it all , your remarks on the ride difference are spot on and clearly state the enjoyment of this not expensive bike . It is not a racer nor a full bore sports bike , rather a fun bike to ride for the money , its reliable well built and gives you an honest handling bike
And that's exactly howbthe marketed it. It's an honest bike in avway that's rare nowadays, and a great canvas for somebody to ride large. That and the cipons. I got them on my Zephyr. Fork cartridge setup next!
would love you to review a continential with those suspension mods and the 860 big bore kit on it, love my Rocker Red GT650, mines mostly stock, only the essential modes, ie 2-into-1 exhaust by Tec (Newcastle, UK), high flow air filter, bar end mirrors, sometimes I even find it a touch loud, but want the 2-1 for weight saving and the way you can see the left side of the engine so nicely
Can confirm the 865 Big Bore Kit is 10/10 worth doing. Makes the bike an absolute blast!
Couldn’t agree more the added power and as well as doing a gear ratio change like I did with the rs tech belt kit really makes it so much more fun in every situation
I love working on my GT :) I’ve got the yss fully adjustable front forks and rear springs, rs tech belt drive, s&s 865 kit and cam, sc project full exhaust, dna air filter, powertronic, Barnett clutch, sintered pads, jd customs tail kit and fairing I powder coated the levers, pegs, shifters fender bracket, head light brackets and all the manifold and heel covers, motone indicators and a few more little cosmetic bits.
Also went with the batleax tires so much better all around
Hey yamm, got back to riding after 30 years and went for a begginer bike (former squid), ended up with what I thought was a stock cruiser, the vulcan 900 custom, turns out it has hyper intake, v&h exhaust, fuel commander, and front and back Baron pulleys, wish I could dyno it.
Congratulations on the good score! I only had two bikes, but did 60K miles on the first, about half that on the second. I got my lady's Gladius, put abut 17 thou on that, but can't wait to get my four cylinder back on the blacktop. Once you've bitten the bullet and spent the cash, you can't afford to sell, you might as well keep going. I've already spent more than it'll ever be worth, so might as well keep going and set it up nicely .
I did the tires, red rooster exhaust, intake filter. Just the tires made a huge difference on drivability. Makes the bike stable at 90 mph for freeway use. I spent about $1,000 dollars on mods including bar end mirrors of course. I have a Panigale V2 and a Diavel V4 and I ride my GT 650 about 25 % of the time as it is a really fun bike to ride.
@yammienoob I’ve got the ohlin suspension front and rear, plus a booster plug and the autologue reck fairing and nuke exhaust on my conti 650. Gotta say the biggest improvement was front suspension. Next mod is the master cylinder and brakes
I'm an experienced rider that's used to liter bikes but I'm getting old (42) and I'm looking at buying a customized cafe interceptor. They really do look so good for those that miss the old cafe style.
I like that Continental GT. Nice looking machine. Basic and simple
Honest. Not pretending to be something it's not. And what they are are a great town bike that'll do a nice ride anywhere on any roads. Priced to be improved upon. When they launched the 650 twins they had a few shops customize them in various directions. Made them accessible for the average person to actually afford a nice bike with a great frame and fun little motor. What a great starting point!
I've had a lot of fun with my interceptor. It's been a gradual thing over the last 4 years, and i know it wild have been cheaper to buy a different bigger bike... but i love my bike.
- TEC 2-2 full exhaust
- DNA air filter
- BT46 tires
- S&S cam
- Rekluse clutch
- 865 big bore
- Power Commander + new map
- front/ rear YSS suspension
- LED headlight and indicators
- Halcyon bar end mirrors
- Givi hard bags
- Sahara seat
- 2" bar risers
- Hula girl dancing on my master cylinder
The next swap is going to be the brakes.
Interesting to note the observation about the bike being slow to turn in because of the short clip-on bars.
Try counter-steering to get the bike to drop over quicker. It will work regardless of the bar width.
Definitely a worthwhile investment into your toy.... nice work great review..Thanks...😊
Heavy bikes and narrow bars are hard work. With 18" original wheels you'd get an upper body gym session every ride.
I had a RE 650 interceptor and put $1500 extra into it then traded it in for a triumph T120. The royals are great bikes for the price but it’s no comparison to my Triumph in fit, finish, performance.
Nice review!those mirrors are great!what brand are they?
I'd like to know where to buy the same mirror too
That is a really good looking bike. Too bad Triumph can't make anything that looks that good. 75 HP sounds awfully tempting -- how much would that cost?
$800, but you can't register it in CARB states.
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn interesting. Thanks.
Assuming you mean the big bore kit it's more like 2-3k all in for all supporting mods (big bore kit, high comp pistons, upgraded clutch, upgraded cam). It definitely lands close to thruxton money for similar power
@@KevinSmith-qi5yn who will know ,only you!
Recently got this bike, oh m lovin it.. will do the big bore kit in the future
Odd that there isn't any kind of fuel management done to the bike, booster plug isn't that expensive and easy to install.
He's probably getting to it.the better you make it the better it gets to be, and there's always something to be done (or re-done, if it's a 2nd hander). But you get a bike that suits you, and there's a pride in doing it! Power mods? Yeah, why not, but pretty near the end of the list if you have a nice stock engine and a bike that handles? I had to get a stock rebuild 'cause I couldn't afford to do nice things to it. Getting too nice to part with now...
Fantastic video! Amazing bike👌
I just picked up the interceptor 650 yesterday as my first...
brembo makes wire clutch perch,called the HPK clutch perch,but stores rarely stock them cause it's not really that desirable
The person that really benefits is the next owner who gets all these upgrades for 50% off :)
Yeah but as long as he puts a ton of miles on it it's worth it
Never mind how it performs, that bike looks amazing.
Dna air filter and straight through header pipes would be the first thing I’d do.
I forgot to mention I have the DNA filer on there and it really helped with the throttle response. I’ve been hesitant to put headers on the bike though, because it’s pretty dang loud just with the just Zard cans
@@motorings735 did you also remap ECU or add a booster plug?
@@ride_the_wind No not yet, I was kinda saving anything power/fueling related until after I got the suspension and touch points sorted out. It's a long story, but in short, my biggest grief with the bike while owning it was not really the power (I have other bikes). I just hated the brake feel, the wobbly levers, and the very soft/springy suspension up front. My thoughts were, well if I can't make it nice to ride with 50hp, why would I want to ride it with 75-80hp with all the engine mods available for it? So I think it's worth exploring eventually, I've just got my hands full with a 2002 SV650 that I'm trying to fix up.
I've got scorpions on straight through header pipes and even with baffles it's loud but revving at the lights is addictive!
Quick question. What falls into a beginner bike? Is it the power,/engine size/price/weight?
In your opinion, is there a motorcycle from RE or any other brand that isn't super high speed or high CCs that performs super well handling and can take turns like no other? Something that hugs the road and can whip corners. Kind of like the motorcycle version of a Subaru BRZ?
Ninja 400
Rc 390
Any others? Why the KTM RC 390 and Kawasaki Ninja 400 in particular?
@@ErelasInglor they are lightweight and momentum bikes. Any of those small displacement sport bikes like the R3 and CBR500R would be like that too. Same as a BRZ or 86, not fast but good enough to carry a lot of speed
@@fastec5 Thank you! Out of the 4 listed here which one would you say is best long term when you're daily driving windy roads?
How tf do you spend $6k in upgrades on a Royal Enfield and NOT at least get a cam and power commander with tune. Not a single engine upgrade. That just seems insane to me.
he said $3500 towards the end of the video
Some ppl don't need more power. I know several ppl who live by the axiom, "it's better to ride a slow bike fast." I'm one of them.
He mentioned in another comment that his complaints with the bike weren't power related but the bad brakes and suspension. He said if it felt like crap at 50hp why would he want to ride it with 75hp. He's going to do the full 865 kit eventually
@@fastec5 I own an Interceptor. Upgraded suspension cost me $800 front & rear. Upgraded brake pads were like $50. The OEM master cylinder works fine. I'm not knocking him or anything, just saying a cam is like $150, a power commander around $400. Seems crazy to do all he did and not even touch the easiest/cheapest performance upgrades.
Can i have the names of all upgrades? Planing to upgrade my enfield
I just bought one and can’t walk past it without making another mod. The engine and frame are superb, accessories are inexpensive on eBay. It would be rare to see this as a first bike, most are aging riders like myself (I’m 75).
You can get a big bore kit to turn your 350cc enfiled into a 500. I'm not sure If it's worth the cost on the j series engine. Just buy an interceptor it would be cheaper
I disagree,
I honestly think the value is there.
If you're buying a $13,000 HD Sportster 883
and then putting $3,000 to make it actually ride-able
and then another $8,000 in performance parts
then that's a waste
but you can get this Royal Enfield for around $5,500-$5,000 new or $3,500-$4,500 used
put $3,000 in modifications into it
and you're still way under the cost of a base Sportster Or a Bonneville
and you have much better performance parts then you would get on any of those other bikes.
Thanks for not completely shitting on the Royal Enfield.
Does anyone know what type of side mirror that is? I put bar ends on mine, and I don't like how wide they make the bike when parking
It’s just a rizoma bar end mirror that I slid in front of the hand grip. Only really helps to see straight behind me.
@@motorings735 Nice! If that's your GT it's badass! I figured it was a trade off on functionality, but it looks so clean! Thanks for letting me know what you used
7:55 baycicle
Asking again to please cover the RE Build Train Race program this season!
Seems like you could get a faster bike for less money than the combined bike and mods, but I'm also looking at it from a "you want a faster bike" perspective and not a "I love my first bike I just want it to have more cowbell" perspective
Looks good and you look really good at it.
Great video Yamm!! I've had my Continental for about 18 months, first bike at 48yrs old. It's everything I wanted from my first machine and I'm really happy with it in it's stock form, but even as a novice rider I'm aware of it's limitations. If I do go the modification route my intended approach would be very similar to @motorings735 (Great job dude!!), starting with the tyres and probably ending eventually with the 865. You're reaction to riding this bike has just answered the 'is it worth it" question I'd been asking myself.
Sounds soooo good👊
I'm looking at 2nd-hand Re650's and I would ONLY buy one with the suspension-mods . It changes these bikes so-much and only adds to the fun-factor they are famous-for . I would also upgrade the-engine but only with higher-comp pistons , cams and very mild-porting plus Power-Commander... rather than the 865-kit. Mid-60's HP is plenty of fun and arguably all you need on a bike like this , 865 is too-much of a Wheelie-Monster and could kill The-buzz of what this bike is...for me at-least and that is what it is really-about ; It's whatever we want/need in a bike to make it that much more special to the-owner . 55-yrs riding.. Dave nz
hey folks - i have a chill thruxton - its called a street cup - love it. lighter than both thruxton and the GT. and thats stock. yay.
Hi, i got my RE GT 650 9 months ago and i have issues with the bike. The bike is struggling to cross the 3000rpm mark and if it crosses, it vibrates too much. I feel uneasy to ride it and dont like the condition of the bike. Yes, i have the spark plug checked but it did not help. Please help!
This bike is NOT about specs, but about the enjoyment of riding something modern & reliable but that looks like a restored classic bike. If you look at it like that, then you have saved yourself a TON of money and headache by NOT buying an old 60's and paying 10's of thousands to a custom shop to restore it. Whether it was worth it is not for us to judge. It's for the bike owner to judge. I can say this without being some keyboard warrior because I just had mine customised and I spent around the same money doing it. Go look up road tests of the FuelFX for this bike. It's a very affordable way to add a bit of oomph into this bike, but some don't feel the difference. It's subtle.
Oh!! Is this a beginner bike in your country?😮😮
Here it is a superbike 😭
Yeah, if Yammie says beginner bike one more time I'm gonna barf.
No one says it's a superbike in India, still out of reach for the masses probably falls in intermediate to advanced category here
I had a 99 sv650 as my first bike and blew up the front piston… plan on boring it out and making it a 8 or 900🤣but I did go buy a cbr500 as my everyday commuter and to stay out of trouble, love it.
Ah yeah I remember when I put an R1 fork on my R3 without modding the engine....
Perfect bike for just getting around town .
Funny how Enfield is the oldest bike company, along with Indian, but its design and character sounds like a Triumph? Its actually the other way around. This tells how many places Triumph did right and how badly Enfield failed. Hope now this new Enfield revamp does justice to its legacy.
what is the top speed bro
A Ton of Fun....
Isn't that the tagline of the Conti GT 650?
Factory price in india 3750 dollar
Here in India, $4800 to be exact
I think this is the best looking bike ❤
does any one know which specific woodcraft clip on he used ? or a part list ?
Nice, my Bonnie SE is similarly set up to this.
Any season is riding season if you’re brave enough
Shoulda put a big bore kit In the bike more hp and torque seems to be a major weak point on those.
What I did with the Blast, though engine mods followed - lol
Aren't engine mods a waste on these?
@@MrBulli69 More torque and power is always welcome, and singles can be relatively inexpensive - comparatively - just adding to the fun.
@Ed Zick I'd agree I had a gsxr1100m with a 1277 high comp motor in it, drag cams oversized valves flowed with mikuni flat slides and nitrous. That gave returns on the investment
@@MrBulli69 nah, you go from like 46hp crank to over 70hp at the tire lol. It's a giant jump in power
@B.Southards that is a big jump but how much does it cost. My Mrs rides a 650 that makes 84bhp out of the box
Is a Suzuki gladias a good first bike?
Personally I'd say Start a little smaller. That sv650 is a good second bike.
Probably although the gladius does get ripped on a lot for being unimaginative
I think it is a great bike to start on. It is an ugly SV650. You won't outgrow the bike quickly.
The SV isn't even close to as fast as people say so I'd say go for it. I always heard they were wheelie monsters and blah blah but then I rode one and I raced one on my Magna and it didn't impress me at all lol.
I have this bike and have spent a good bit on mods as well. I’m trying not to think about it. I have done:
Power commander
Stage 2 intake
Bridgestone Battlax
Free flowing exhaust from Hitchcocks
Zard Slip ons
Ohlins rear suspsension
MK Designs Shorty Tail Kit
Adjustable levers
Are they only in the USA yammie?
God that sweet exhaust
Do you have links to purchase these?
No turn indicators and only a single mirror? Good thing you did not encounter one of Texas finest DPS officers!
Single mirror is fine and there are indicators but theyre quite stealthy
The only expensive mods I put on the GT650 were the SS race exhausts, k&n air filter, and powertronic ECU. Also added preload adjustable dampers on the front which made it more stable and prevented it from diving too much. Also EBC sintered brake pads for extra bite! The yss/ohlins suspensions are too expensive ($800) and not worth the price. The preload adjusters did 70% of the job (for diving part) for $50.
The YSS front and rear is $395 at TEC right now, that's where I got mine.
dude your out-tros/encores are my faorite parts
I’m a little surprised with all that work it’s still got the crappy RE foot pegs & controls.
there not crappy, have you ever ridden one?
@@andrewslagle1974 every day.
They are not beginner bikes mate
Which rear view mirror is that
In the right hands, 50 hp goes a long way..
More than most need.
people who tinker are going to tinker. That said... never buy a project bike as a first bike. Always have something that rides, even if you are one who loves to build - as I do.
I need to know what’s going on with the left arm 🧐
Anything which isn't a $40k Kawi H2 is a 'beginner bike.'
Ha ha ha ha