There are soooo many things you can do to minimize costs. Baby pools are great to water Livestock. Roll haybales out (look up Greg Judy) and viola! You have feed, seed AND mulch! High tensile fencing is a lot more affordable than netting. Just think outside the box and do some research and keep in mind how people were doing things 100-200 years ago. I feel like we tend to over due it these days. Anything worth having is worth working for and there is going to come a day where you can't just run to McDonald's or the corner grocery store so the time to figure it out is now 😊 Stay blessed!
I got my Katahdins in August. In the first two weeks I saw one lamb have two choking incidents due to pelleted grain. The second incident was bad - I thought I was going to lose the lamb, and had to drench with water before she was finally able to clear the blockage. I switched them to plain oats and didn't see any more choking. A few weeks ago I tried adding pelleted alfalfa and immediately had another choking incident with a different lamb. I won't give pellets again!
Thinking about your last few videos... I wonder if those Greg Judy animals are everything they are advertised as. Maybe you could acquire some at your next refresh (or sponsored?) and see if you experience anything different?
Here's the thing. You can take any group and baby them and you will have the exact same problems arise. It is the mindset of the Shepard/shepherdess. You have to be willing to cull and let nature run its course. In the end you end up with a hardy flock. Whenever you bring any sheep onto new land with new exposures there will be some that cannot with the new environment. If you unnaturally let them survive the environment you end up always having to be that kind of unnatural caretaker. It is neither good or bad, It depends on your goals. Do you want to maximize your herd, profits, offspring by inputs faster or do you want a flock that will sustains itself without those inputs and grow steady on the land that can handle the load. We have the ability, the knowledge to make almost everything survive today with inputs that we have to maintain. Most aren't willing to make the choices to get to a flock that doesn't require a lot of inputs.
Note that Greg moves his sheep every day never going back to the same spot for months at a time. So, they rarely come up against significant worm populations. So, are they really super-resistant to barberpole worm? While they may be, they are resistant to growth (they are tiny). Dorper can be selected to be more resistant to worms. A good approach would be to purchase from someone that has had Dorper for a significant amount of time in your type of environment. Also, if you have to worm, ivermectin and valbazen are ineffective against most barberpole populations (prohibit and cydectin are better options). Good luck next time.
Depends on a lot of things. It's more about how much area you need to cover. I'd imagine you'd want at least 6 or 8 fences of 100 feet. Hard to say without seeing your set up of learning more.
How frequently do you buy mineral? You said $20-40, but how long does that last? And is it actually necessary that they have minerals and vitamins? I think of Shepards in the old days and I don't imagine they supplemented their food with minerals and vitamins
Not too much difference, aside from fencing (compared to cows at least). Although sheep have a "set it and forget it" mindset, which has led people to believe that they are cheap to start. They are not.
.6 joules!? Oh boy id go like 6+! We have an 11 joule gallagher and its stress free, one wire can be on the ground and its still at 8k volts. Buy the biggest you can afford...for real get the big ones, nothing worse than chasing animals!
@@homesteadingwithPJ I just moved to a new state 2 months ago and noticed 3 minutes away from me there's a guy selling eggs, goats, and sheep, he's raising them himself, I want to buy one and slaughter and butcher one myself, but I want to know what to look for in order to buy a healthy one.
There are soooo many things you can do to minimize costs.
Baby pools are great to water
Livestock.
Roll haybales out (look up Greg Judy) and viola! You have feed, seed AND mulch!
High tensile fencing is a lot more affordable than netting.
Just think outside the box and do some research and keep in mind how people were doing things 100-200 years ago. I feel like we tend to over due it these days.
Anything worth having is worth working for and there is going to come a day where you can't just run to McDonald's or the corner grocery store so the time to figure it out is now 😊
Stay blessed!
I got my Katahdins in August. In the first two weeks I saw one lamb have two choking incidents due to pelleted grain. The second incident was bad - I thought I was going to lose the lamb, and had to drench with water before she was finally able to clear the blockage. I switched them to plain oats and didn't see any more choking. A few weeks ago I tried adding pelleted alfalfa and immediately had another choking incident with a different lamb. I won't give pellets again!
I don't have issues with choking maybe you need to re-evaluate your management
I've heard of that, but never seen it first hand. I think animals that don't see pelleted food often go nuts while being introduced to it and choke.
Thank you, PJ👍
Thinking about your last few videos... I wonder if those Greg Judy animals are everything they are advertised as. Maybe you could acquire some at your next refresh (or sponsored?) and see if you experience anything different?
Here's the thing. You can take any group and baby them and you will have the exact same problems arise. It is the mindset of the Shepard/shepherdess. You have to be willing to cull and let nature run its course. In the end you end up with a hardy flock. Whenever you bring any sheep onto new land with new exposures there will be some that cannot with the new environment.
If you unnaturally let them survive the environment you end up always having to be that kind of unnatural caretaker. It is neither good or bad, It depends on your goals. Do you want to maximize your herd, profits, offspring by inputs faster or do you want a flock that will sustains itself without those inputs and grow steady on the land that can handle the load. We have the ability, the knowledge to make almost everything survive today with inputs that we have to maintain. Most aren't willing to make the choices to get to a flock that doesn't require a lot of inputs.
We also live in a society that frowns on those who don't do everything possible to make the weak survive.
@@Herps1 rule number 1 is no bottle baby breeding ewes or rams.
I'm late to their thread, but I freaking love it. Yes to all of this!
Note that Greg moves his sheep every day never going back to the same spot for months at a time. So, they rarely come up against significant worm populations. So, are they really super-resistant to barberpole worm? While they may be, they are resistant to growth (they are tiny). Dorper can be selected to be more resistant to worms. A good approach would be to purchase from someone that has had Dorper for a significant amount of time in your type of environment. Also, if you have to worm, ivermectin and valbazen are ineffective against most barberpole populations (prohibit and cydectin are better options). Good luck next time.
On the back end- freezers/processing equipment or butchering!
Ah true!
How many ft of Premier 1 fencing would you recommend for 8 sheep?
Depends on a lot of things. It's more about how much area you need to cover.
I'd imagine you'd want at least 6 or 8 fences of 100 feet. Hard to say without seeing your set up of learning more.
How frequently do you buy mineral? You said $20-40, but how long does that last? And is it actually necessary that they have minerals and vitamins? I think of Shepards in the old days and I don't imagine they supplemented their food with minerals and vitamins
Good question. For my small sized flock, that lasts me at least a year. Maybe two.
We do go the mineral block but the horses hog it :/
So you need most of these things with other species so how is it more expensive than others?
Not too much difference, aside from fencing (compared to cows at least).
Although sheep have a "set it and forget it" mindset, which has led people to believe that they are cheap to start. They are not.
I would fence my cows the same why would you differently
Hebat ternak kambing nya
.6 joules!? Oh boy id go like 6+! We have an 11 joule gallagher and its stress free, one wire can be on the ground and its still at 8k volts. Buy the biggest you can afford...for real get the big ones, nothing worse than chasing animals!
Do you have a video on what to look for when buying a sheep and/or goat to slaughter?
I don't but I should!
@@homesteadingwithPJ I just moved to a new state 2 months ago and noticed 3 minutes away from me there's a guy selling eggs, goats, and sheep, he's raising them himself, I want to buy one and slaughter and butcher one myself, but I want to know what to look for in order to buy a healthy one.